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Sparky
13th April 2011, 12:54 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-debt-plan-would-cut-4-cnnm-3783839677.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

Let's walk through this.

Toward the end of the Bush era, we had a record deficit of $0.6T/year, and the debt was $10.6T. During the transition to the Obama era in 2009, the deficit doubled to $1.2T. Obama pledged to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term, i.e. back to the previous record $0.6T/year by 2013. Here we are in 2011, and the deficit is now running at least $1.5T, and the debt is $14.2T.

Now, the current pledge is to "reduce deficits by $4T over 12 years", which is $0.3T/year. So if I do the math, the pledge is to reduce the deficit from $1.5T to $1.2T by 2023.

Are you kidding me? This is essentially saying that we will be adding to the debt at a rate exceeding $1.2T per year over the next 12 years, not including interest accrued to the debt. If we average, say, $1.3T for 12 years, and add on $10T in interest, by 2023 the total debt will be $40T.

So if everything goes right, and we do all this painful cutting, and interest rates remain below 5% for the next decade, we'll be servicing a $40T debt to the tune of $1.5T per year. Current debt service is around $300B.

If interest rates average 5% over the next 12 years and end up at 7%, the debt will be close to $50T, with an annual debt service of $3.5T. Our entire budget is currently $3.5T, of which roughly half is borrowed.

Batten down the hatches!

cthulu
13th April 2011, 12:58 PM
a lot like the joke of a game show the congress critters are doing with the budget...oh big deal, 33 billion....:lol:

Ponce
13th April 2011, 01:53 PM
I for one never paid any attention to numbers........once you jump off the roof of a 100 floors building and you go past the 49 floor then the rest is only gravy.

chad
13th April 2011, 01:55 PM
did you hear him say "winning the future" 3 times :oo-->

osoab
13th April 2011, 01:59 PM
id you hear him say "winning the future" 3 times :oo-->


Is he paying Charlie Sheen for the copyrights? :D

Cobalt
13th April 2011, 02:06 PM
I don't know why they call it a budget, too me a budget means you have $50 dollars to last through the week so that means you only spend $50

The first cut should be the benefits CONress gets, they have no problem saying we all need to make sacrifices.

They are our so called leaders and need to start leading by example instead of leading us down the path too ruin.

MarchHare
13th April 2011, 02:33 PM
They should make it sound even more ambitious and say they will cut $33.3 trillion over the next 100 years! Better yet, "Republican plan would cut $333 trillion over the next 1000 years!"

Ponce
13th April 2011, 03:24 PM
As I see it............the US will be broke in one year so that all those trillions is nothing......hell, print out 10 more quatrillions.

pathotoko
13th April 2011, 03:53 PM
Well, in the future when inflation is rampant and the debt has grown to a 100 quadrillion dollars, cutting $4 trillion would be feasible. I think he's actually going to keep his promise this time!

Ponce
13th April 2011, 04:54 PM
Lol pathotoke..........welcome to the nut house.

nunaem
13th April 2011, 05:10 PM
a lot like the joke of a game show the congress critters are doing with the budget...oh big deal, 33 billion....:lol:


Not even that paltry amount.. 0.35 billion. ::)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/cbo-budget-deal-cuts-this-fiscal-years-deficit-by-just-353-million-not-38-billion-touted/2011/04/13/AFFJnkWD_story.html

madfranks
13th April 2011, 07:00 PM
Well, in the future when inflation is rampant and the debt has grown to a 100 quadrillion dollars, cutting $4 trillion would be feasible. I think he's actually going to keep his promise this time!


Good insight and welcome to the forum!

dys
14th April 2011, 08:49 AM
All of this interest associated with this fake debt is being stolen from the taxpayers. I implore everyone to watch the video in this thread. It might be the most important video I've ever seen.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/documentary-the-corporation-nation/

dys