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Ponce
16th April 2011, 11:41 AM
1. The first lie is that Israel was established in reaction to the massacre of Jews during the World War II.

This notion is completely wrong. Israel is in fact a domineering project which was approved in the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, in 1897, when nationalist Jews decided to occupy Palestine.

2. The second justification for establishing and legitimizing Israel is that the Jews are returning to their forefathers' land, from where they had been driven away in 70 A.D.

This is a tale. I have spoken to the famous Israeli historian Shlomo Sand and other historians and they all believe that there has been no "exodus," so "return" is meaningless. The people living in Palestine have not left their land in the ancient era.

In fact the descendents of Jews residing in Palestine are the people who are currently living in Palestine. Those who claim they want to return to their lands originate for Western and Eastern Europe and Northern Africa.

Sand says there is no Jewish nation. The Jews do not have common history, language or culture. The only common thing between them is their religion, and religion does not make a nation.

3. The third lie is that when Jewish immigrants occupied Palestine, it was an empty and uninhibited country.

However, there are documents and evidences that prove that in the 19th century the agricultural products of Palestine were exported to different countries, including France.

4. Fourth, some people say Palestinians left their country on their own free will.

This is another lie, which lots of people believed, including myself. Until Israeli historians like Benny Morris and Ilan Pappe said that Palestinians were driven away and banished from their lands by using force and terror.

5. It is said that today Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and it should be protected; it is the "government of law."

But in my opinion not only it is not the government of law; it is the only regime that no law defines its territory and boundaries. All the countries of the world have a constitution which defines their boundaries, but no such thing applies to Israel. Israel is an expansionist project which knows no boundary, and its law is completely racist; according to this law Israel is the country for Jews, and its non-Jew citizens are not considered human. Such law is a contradiction to democracy.

6. It is said that the US tries to protect democracy in the Middle East by protecting Israel. And we know that the US annual financial aid to Israel amounts to 3 billion dollars. This money is used for bombarding Israel's neighbor countries.

But America is not after establishing democracy in the Middle East; it wants the undisturbed flow of oil.

7. They pretend that the US seeks an agreement between Israel and Palestine.

This is also completely wrong and a lie. EU former Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana told the Israel that "you are the 21st country of the European Union." The European weapons industries cooperate with the Israeli military industries and support them financially. But when Palestinians elected their government, Europe did not recognize it and gave the green light to Israel to attack the Gaza Strip.

8. When one talks about these facts and the history of Israel and Palestine, when one reveals the US interests in this situation, they call you anti-Semite to keep you silent.

But we should say that when we criticize Israel, it is not racism or anti-Semitism. We criticize a government that does not believe in the equality of Jews, Christians and Muslims, and so destroys the peace between followers of different religions.

9. The mass media say that Palestinians cause violence and terrorism.

We say Israel army's occupation is violence, the policy that has stolen land and home from Palestinians is violence.

10. An issue which is often raised is that there is no way for resolving this situation, and there is no solution for the hatred and the grudge caused by Israel and its accomplices.

But there is a solution. The only thing that can stop this process is the public pressure on the accomplices of Israel in the US and Europe and other parts of the world; public pressure on the mass media which refrain from telling the truth about Israel; and using the Internet or any other media out let to publish real news about Palestine.

http://open.salon.com/blog/gordon_wagner/2010/06/28/michael_collons_ten_big_lies

gunDriller
16th April 2011, 07:31 PM
1. The first lie is that Israel was established in reaction to the massacre of Jews during the World War II.

This notion is completely wrong. Israel is in fact a domineering project which was approved in the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, in 1897, when nationalist Jews decided to occupy Palestine.

very true. this is treated in depth in the book, "Adolf Hitler, Founder of Israel". i got it from Daryl Bradford Smith, but i can't find the link on his website, so i uploaded it -
http://cid-34bbd2e0b65c0078.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Books

the book describes how a man by the name of "Trebitsch-Lincoln" showed up at a function where Hitler spoke out about his own passion for the project of "sending the Jews to the desert", as Hitler put it. Trebitsch-Lincoln handed Hitler a fat envelope full of cash. This was in the 1920's.

Hitler continued to speak out about his passion for Israel in the 1930's and the "project" obviously got underway in the late 1930's and during World War 2. financing for Hitler from the Jewish community continued during the 1930's and into the 1940's.

it was obviously a bad investment, they were loaning him money to build munitions factories that they knew would be destroyed. but given that the big money crowd wanted to control the Mid-East because of the oil there, the money they gave to Hitler - they got a huge return on that investment.



2. The second justification for establishing and legitimizing Israel is that the Jews are returning to their forefathers' land, from where they had been driven away in 70 A.D..

more lies told by Jewish people. this is what Martin Luther was warning us about. when Israel-supporters call themselves semitic, they are lying, but it's a linguistic trick that helps to brainwash the general public into thinking that most Jews are Semitic in origin.



3. The third lie is that when Jewish immigrants occupied Palestine, it was an empty and uninhibited country.

plenty of olive farms owned by Palestinian Muslims before the Jews started terrorizing them in 1935.



8. When one talks about these facts and the history of Israel and Palestine, when one reveals the US interests in this situation, they call you anti-Semite to keep you silent.

if you call me anti-Semitic, i will thank you for the compliment.

YES INDEED, i am anti-criminal.

and the term "anti-Semitic" is normally used when someone describes criminal behavior in the Jewish community. Journalists toe the line because they are afraid that the ADL will be on their case like Whining Dogs from Hell.



9. The mass media say that Palestinians cause violence and terrorism.

like Martin Luther said, "On the Jews and their Lies."

PatColo
18th April 2011, 12:48 AM
From the Wiesenthal Center, TOP FIVE ANTI-ISRAEL LIES! (http://denialator.blogspot.com/2010/12/top-five-anti-israel-lies.html)

Found it at this Megaphone warrior's blog, which I was pointed to by the blogger's comment in an unrelated article about fukushima radiation dangers-- blogger is telling people don't worry about consuming potentially radioactive dairy, begins here (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/04/11/veterans-today-exclusive-what-to-do-about-the-radioactive-poison/comment-page-1/#comment-190995),

Don't worry, radiation is good for you. Such nice folks, those Megaphonies. :oo-->