World's Tiniest Geiger Counter......just ordered one.

[Ponce]

I just ordered "The tiniest geiger counter in the world" $139.95+$5.25 shipping.

http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=C6999

[Antonio]

This thing here is worth 13$, not 139$. How many times can you use it before the damn wires break off? They couldn`t spare a fuckin plastic housing for it so you wouldn`t hold it like a dead mouse hanging by its tail?
It doesn`t measure alpha of course and plutonium emits only alpha, neither does it give you the actual level numbers, just approximate clicks that you have to count yourself. Send the thing back to them for a refund and buy a Radalert, everything else is garbage.

[midnight rambler]

That's cute, but this is much more practical.

http://www.nukalert.com/

[Bullion_Bob]

With a parts list you could probably put that together in under an hour for $10-$20.

Incredible they are charging more than $50.

[Antonio]

That's cute, but this is much more practical.

http://www.nukalert.com/


It`s nice but only measures gamma and it starts from 100 milliR/hr, background is 10 MICROrontgen/hr. You`d be fried if you stayed a bit under 100 mr/hr for a few months and didn`t know it. It`s not sensitive enough.
People, don`t buy anything but the very best when it comes to geigers, if it doesn`t measure alpha it`s a POS.
The tubes that measure alpha have mica window in them, it`s very fragile and expensive, spend money and handle with great care.

[vacuum]

What would be a good geiger that could measure food contamination?

[Ponce]

Well, as long as I have the cash I will buy my toys.......I do have the big one for food control but this one is a carry around, like my 11 year old "NUK Alert"........hummmmmmm I have to send it back for a new battery.

[Antonio]

What would be a good geiger that could measure food contamination?


http://www.medcom.com/rad100.htm
When nuclear shit hits the fan, Radalert 100 is the very best there is, accept no subsitutes except the older discontinued Radalert 50 that I have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk6Utpg5JcM

[midnight rambler]

That's cute, but this is much more practical.

http://www.nukalert.com/


It`s nice but only measures gamma and it starts from 100 milliR/hr, background is 10 MICROrontgen/hr. You`d be fried if you stayed a bit under 100 mr/hr for a few months and didn`t know it. It`s not sensitive enough.
People, don`t buy anything but the very best when it comes to geigers, if it doesn`t measure alpha it`s a POS.
The tubes that measure alpha have mica window in them, it`s very fragile and expensive, spend money and handle with great care.


Well of course one should have overlapping devices, and this is just one of them. One should not be depending upon a single device.

The issue is that if you don't already have a super sensitive Geiger-Muller (G-M) tube to go with your detector it's unlikely you will be getting one anytime soon. Good luck getting any of the manufacturers to respond to your emails or even phone calls. All G-M tube production is spoken for for the next several months, in fact if you not ready to order a few hundred G-M tubes the manufacturers are not interested in talking to you at all (S.E. International says upfront on their incoming phone line: "We are not taking any retail orders at this time"). They're overwhelmed, as only one example check out Mineralab's website www.geigercounter.com - they make it very clear they don't want any more business for now.

[midnight rambler]

What would be a good geiger that could measure food contamination?


http://www.medcom.com/rad100.htm
When nuclear shit hits the fan, Radalert 100 is the very best there is


Uh, no it's not. It's a good value for a pocket sized device - if you can get one, but it's not 'the very best there is' for under $500.

Which do you think is a more sensitive probe?

http://www.geigercounters.com/RadTop.JPG

http://shopping.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=372&c=817517&h=a6e018fb7eafd74fe48c&resizeid=-2&resizeh=240&resizew=240

[Ponce]

As I see it...........something is better than nothing, is more for peace of mind than anything else......even if what you are looking at is not true.

The same thing that I wrote above is what the US government is doing to the general public, keep them calm till they get situated BEFORE they let anyone know that TSHTF.........but of course us here already know that.

About my NUKAlert......going to play cards an 18 wheeler drove past me and my toy went crazy, I drove faster and went past the truck and once again my toy went crazy.......when I reached the casino I called the Highway Patrol and told them about it, what the truck looked like and the plate number.....never found out if anything came out of that.

[Ponce]

My "NUKAlert"........ http://www.nukalert.com/

[mightymanx]

Without a readout that tells you the level it is beyond worthless. A tinfoil hat would be better at that point.

What does the neato ticking sound it makes mean? Can you count the counts per minute with your wrist watch? Or are you just going to do the crap you see on TV and feel safe/important?

[Ponce]

Hey Manx? ............. I don't have to know the speed of a bullet to know that it can kill me..........if it ticks? then run like hell till it stops ticking............almost forgot, just sent my NUKAlert for a new battery $35.00.

[vacuum]

http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/images/C6999B.jpg

Such a small aperture means that it won't be very sensitive. I'm sure counts/minute is really counts/minute/sq meter or something similar.

[mightymanx]

Hey Manx? ............. I don't have to know the speed of a bullet to know that it can kill me..........if it ticks? then run like hell till it stops ticking............almost forgot, just sent my NUKAlert for a new battery $35.00.


Are you going to run from every single fluorescent lightbulb that is on ?

Hold it up and see what you get if it works like it is suposed to it is going to go batshit.

[Antonio]

Ponce and everyone, I bought my radalert 50 back in 2000, paid 160$ on ebay for a slightly used one, the retail on it was about 400$.
Now I see them on ebay for over 600$. Quality geigers will ONLY go up in price from now on. If I didn`t own one I`d spend whatever it takes now to get a quality model before it becomes unaffordable. I haven`t seen a portable model in this price range that is better than radalert. If it doesn`t accurately measure gamma,beta and alpha it is useless, if it uses a fancy battery it`ll be useless WTSHTF, if it`s good, cheap but big it`ll also be useless because you can`t run with it and your Ag in search of a spot with lower radiation levels.

I wish I owned more than one in case mine breaks. I keep it wrapped up and always handled it with greatest care.

[midnight rambler]

For the price of that pocket model you can get a much better quality used instrument which is far more sensitive, a Ludlum Model 3 with a 44-9 pancake probe (about 500-600 on feebay). And yeah, it uses a couple of 'D' batteries (about 2,000 hours per battery set).

http://photos.labx.com/labx/432000/432810-1.jpg

[vacuum]

For the price of that pocket model you can get a much better quality used instrument which is far more sensitive, a Ludlum Model 3 with a 44-9 pancake probe (about 500-600 on feebay). And yeah, it uses a couple of 'D' batteries (about 2,000 hours per battery set).

http://photos.labx.com/labx/432000/432810-1.jpg

That looks pretty good. Do these things have to be calibrated? Or do they just work?

The only downside to an older model is that you can't log data to a PC.

I really need to read up on geiger counter technology and radiation measurement to fully understand the differences between all these units.

[Antonio]

This seems to be an excellent choice for something to keep at home as a primary detector. If total SHTF, you need something small so you can run with it. The nature of radiation danger is that unlike political/social unrest, the option of staying at home won`t be there.
You can carry only so many pounds, better carry some extra food,ammo and PMs than a heavy geiger.Radalert is the size of 2 cigarette packs and weighs next to nothing.

[Ponce]

Rambler? I have a similar one that is the one to check out food.......got it for free about twenty five years ago and a couple of years ago I paid about seventy five bucks to have it check out and calibrated.

[G2Rad]

it is far from being the tiniest

mine is built in into a watch

that thing would not fit into a regular watch

[midnight rambler]

For the price of that pocket model you can get a much better quality used instrument which is far more sensitive, a Ludlum Model 3 with a 44-9 pancake probe (about 500-600 on feebay). And yeah, it uses a couple of 'D' batteries (about 2,000 hours per battery set).

http://photos.labx.com/labx/432000/432810-1.jpg

That looks pretty good. Do these things have to be calibrated? Or do they just work?

The only downside to an older model is that you can't log data to a PC.

I really need to read up on geiger counter technology and radiation measurement to fully understand the differences between all these units.


Ludlum's recommendation for the Model 3 is to have it calibrated once every 12 months (I'm guessing when used in industry) while interestingly the FEMA recommendation for the CDV-700 was four years before re-calibration, but when the money started getting cutback (imagine that, gov.org saving money) on the CD program they moved the time for re-calibration to six years. From what I gather the time to re-calibration is based upon usage, for instance if you keep your detector in your bug-out bag in the trunk of your car you would need to get it re-calibrated every six months. Keeping it at home on a shelf would naturally be a lot easier on it.