Black people are the most unfairly castigated group out there

[sirgonzo420]

I like you lapis... but most white men do not rape toddlers or anybody else.

[JDRock]

not one liberal feel-good equality-minded black lover will DARE live in an all black neighborhood and send their daughters to an inner city black school :oo-->..untill they do their hypocrits at best and zio agents in a worst case scenario.

[Book]

And Book is now more like the boy who used to snap my bra in the hallways and then run for it!



http://vermontteddy.http.internapcdn.net/vermontteddy/Images/ProductImages/600/CANCER10073V_600.jpg

Be brave Lapis. You must share this painful GSUS sexual abuse event at your next Survivor Support Group (http://www.komendenverblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Race-Group-Photo.jpg) meeting. Be sure to bring your special survivor support bear to wordlessly reenact the unspeakable trauma you experienced here.

:'(

[Book]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYpk7TQ8qJY

Back on topic...lol.

:)

[lapis]

Get it off your chest so you can report to your Support Group therapist some sort of "closure" here.


Thanks, but actually I now think of you guys as my Support Group. I am so glad I got all those things off my chest. It's stuff I've held in for years, and now I feel so much better! It's been cathartic, to talk about things I can't tell most people I know even in real life. We really do have something quite special here at GSUS. It's that sense of liberty that comes from being uncensored. Thanks again. :-*

[lapis]

And Book is now more like the boy who used to snap my bra in the hallways and then run for it!



http://vermontteddy.http.internapcdn.net/vermontteddy/Images/ProductImages/600/CANCER10073V_600.jpg

Be brave Lapis. You must share this painful GSUS sexual abuse event at your next Survivor Support Group (http://www.komendenverblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Race-Group-Photo.jpg) meeting. Be sure to bring your special survivor support bear to wordlessly reenact the unspeakable trauma you experienced here.

:'(


Heh. Thanks for the cuddly bear. It would be perfect if it said, "I am a GSUS survivor." ;)

[JDRock]

not one liberal feel-good equality-minded black lover will DARE live in an all black neighborhood and send their daughters to an inner city black school :oo-->..untill they do their hypocrits at best and zio agents in a worst case scenario.

..any takers?? c'mon, they are poor..harmless..castigated victims :oo-->...vote with your feet here.

[willie pete]

not one liberal feel-good equality-minded black lover will DARE live in an all black neighborhood and send their daughters to an inner city black school :oo-->..untill they do their hypocrits at best and zio agents in a worst case scenario.

..any takers?? c'mon, they are poor..harmless..castigated victims :oo-->...vote with your feet here.




....And now, some culture and music from the most castigated group...... :D NSFW

http://youtu.be/FkD1xmc8c4Y

[Book]

:-*



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3sMh31VZHMc/TELN48s0GLI/AAAAAAAACwk/csArahCt9jY/s1600/Group-Counseling.jpg

I feel violated. This unwelcome overt sexual harassment must stop!

:o

[Olmstein]

So unfairly castigated...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvfkk5D8-8o

[solid]

So unfairly castigated...


Obviously that video represents all black people. The only thing missing from that video, is that linebacker Phoenix cop to go charging in there throwing bodies all over the place...because of course, he represents all police officers.

What is the definition of castigated again? :oo-->

[Olmstein]

This guy will probably be unfairly castigated, too.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2cz4npx.jpg

Police arrested a 41-year-old man last week after he called 911 and told officers that he was not given the correct change after buying crack cocaine from a drug dealer.

More at Link (http://www.live5news.com/story/14571627/police-911-crack-deal)

[Olmstein]

Obviously that video represents all black people.

+1



What is the definition of castigated again? :oo-->


"to subject to severe punishment, reproof, or criticism"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/castigated

[Book]

Obviously that video represents all black people.



+1



Olmstein is on a roll today.

:D good for you

[solid]

Olmstein is on a roll today.

:D good for you



The only problem I have is with inconsistency, the same folks that bash a bunch of Dexters running amuck...are the same folks that bash police when police deal with them. :dunno

Makes no sense to me. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Olmstein]

Olmstein is on a roll today.

:D good for you



The only problem I have is with inconsistency, the same folks that bash a bunch of Dexters running amuck...are the same folks that bash police when police deal with them. :dunno

Makes no sense to me. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


I'm simply expressing my desire to live in a world without "dexters", and without police.

[steyr_m]

And the people in the chimp-out videos do not represent "most" black people.



You're right, it doesn't represent "most" black people, only in the case where they're a minority. When they are a majority and you are the minority, it's only a matter of time before it happens.

I think you said in a previous post that you were a recovering liberal. I think you're still a liberal. A leopard can't change it's spots and a liberal will always think that all people are equal.

[JDRock]

not one liberal feel-good equality-minded black lover will DARE live in an all black neighborhood and send their daughters to an inner city black school :oo-->..untill they do their hypocrits at best and zio agents in a worst case scenario.

..any takers?? c'mon, they are poor..harmless..castigated victims :oo-->...vote with your feet here.

still waiting for even ONE honest ape lover here....

[osoab]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvU9V4QuYI&feature=player_embedded

[solid]

I stopped a fight from happening this morning, at a gas station, between a white guy and a black guy.

When I first pulled into the gas station to fill up, I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding. He pointed and said, "there's the water over there." So, I clean my windows and returned the squeegy to the water container. The black guy grabs it and says no, that's my personal one. I thanked him and chatted for a moment, gave him a dollar and wished him good luck. Friendly guy.

So, I finish pumping, and pull forward to add air to one of my tires. As I'm adding air, the black guy starts asking how low it was. I told him low, it's got a slow leak. He starts checking the tire, looking for where it might be leaking helping me out. He was well spoken, and told me he's in school to become a mechanic and was unemployed, he picks up work fixing people's cars, odd jobs here and there.

As I'm adding air, a car pulls up next to us. The guy gets out, and starts adding water to his radiator. The black guy says, "Good morning, how are you today?"

White guy quote, verbatim..."Get the fuck away from me." Black guy, "What? I ask you good morning and you tell me to fuck off." Downhill everything went.

The white guy threatened the black guy first, as I was listening and filling up my tire. The black guy responded by taking off his backpack, putting up his fists, and saying "you disrespect me and tell me you are going to kick my ass...if anyone's ass is going to be kicked, it's yours. Let's do it!"

It's interesting to witness a situation just go south like that...so, I finish filling up my tire. I step between the two guys and just say it's not worth it. They both immediately backed off, the white guy said, "agreed, it's not worth it". The black guy was still posturing with "disrespect" comments, but backing away from it all. But, I separated them that easily. I was surprised at how easily. It was obvious neither one wanted to fight. All it took was a third person to step in the middle.

I don't care what color your skin is, your social background...disrespect is disrespect. It's a universal language, bottom line.

[sirgonzo420]

I stopped a fight from happening this morning, at a gas station, between a white guy and a black guy.

When I first pulled into the gas station to fill up, I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding. He pointed and said, "there's the water over there." So, I clean my windows and returned the squeegy to the water container. The black guy grabs it and says no, that's my personal one. I thanked him and chatted for a moment, gave him a dollar and wished him good luck. Friendly guy.

So, I finish pumping, and pull forward to add air to one of my tires. As I'm adding air, the black guy starts asking how low it was. I told him low, it's got a slow leak. He starts checking the tire, looking for where it might be leaking helping me out. He was well spoken, and told me he's in school to become a mechanic and was unemployed, he picks up work fixing people's cars, odd jobs here and there.

As I'm adding air, a car pulls up next to us. The guy gets out, and starts adding water to his radiator. The black guy says, "Good morning, how are you today?"

White guy quote, verbatim..."Get the fuck away from me." Black guy, "What? I ask you good morning and you tell me to fuck off." Downhill everything went.

The white guy threatened the black guy first, as I was listening and filling up my tire. The black guy responded by taking of his backpack, putting up his fists, and saying "you disrespect me and tell me you are going to kick my ass...if anyone's ass is going to be kicked, it's yours. Let's do it!"

It's interesting to witness a situation just go south like that...so, I finish filling up my tire. I step between the two guys and just say it's not worth it. They both immediately backed off, the white guy said, "agreed, it's not worth it". The black guy was still posturing with "disrespect" comments, but backing away from it all. But, I separated them that easily. I was surprised at how easily. It was obvious neither one wanted to fight. All it took was a third person to step in the middle.

I don't care what color your skin is, your social background...disrespect is disrespect. It's a universal language, bottom line.









So what was the black dude doing hanging around the gas station?

Bumming?

You said you gave him a dollar... perhaps the white fellow did not want to be accosted by someone who was likely feigning friendliness in order to obtain CASH.

[solid]

So what was the black dude doing hanging around the gas station?

Bumming?

You said you gave him a dollar... perhaps the white fellow did not want to be accosted by someone who was likely feigning friendliness in order to obtain CASH.




The guy never once asked for CASH, though it was obvious he needed it. I respect any man willing to work, even the ones cleaning windows for a dollar.

[Olmstein]

So what was the black dude doing hanging around the gas station?

Bumming?

You said you gave him a dollar... perhaps the white fellow did not want to be accosted by someone who was likely feigning friendliness in order to obtain CASH.




The guy never once asked for CASH, though it was obvious he needed it. I respect any man willing to work, even the ones cleaning windows for a dollar.


Obvious? Just because he's black, you "assume" he needs a hand out? That's racist!



But seriously, your story makes me wonder, how do you get your car and your boat from port to port? Does your car fit on your boat? Do you tow the boat behind the car?

[solid]

But seriously, your story makes me wonder, how do you get your car and your boat from port to port? Does your car fit on your boat? Do you tow the boat behind the car?


It's a hassle, you need to have someone drive you to go pick up the car when moving ports. I need a car to get to work. If/when I go sailing "cruising", I'd leave the car behind because it would be too much of a headache. I can fit a folding bike onboard, and an inflatable dinghy, and a surfboard just fine however. ;D

[solid]

Obvious? Just because he's black, you "assume" he needs a hand out? That's racist!



Actually you are right about this point. I assumed he needed money, I could have insulted him offering him a dollar. I also "assumed" he hide the station's squeegy, when I left it in the water bucket instead of returning it to him. He insisted it was his however, I'll never know.

I've had folks assume I'm homeless, based upon how I dress for work, so I understand that.

[Book]

When I first pulled into the gas station to fill up, I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding. He pointed and said, "there's the water over there." So, I clean my windows and returned the squeegy to the water container. The black guy grabs it and says no, that's my personal one. I thanked him and chatted for a moment, gave him a dollar and wished him good luck.



Extortion plain and simple. The White guy had obviously seen that game before and acted appropriately from the git go.

:oo--> a dollar...lol.

[Olmstein]

:oo--> a dollar...lol.


2 dollars will get you a 40. Thanks to solid, the guy's half way there.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fVsKrFQ-Cxk/SQn893iIN9I/AAAAAAAAAPE/nXWZZIp-4e0/s400/cheetos2.jpg

[Book]

2 dollars will get you a 40. Thanks to solid, the guy's half way there.



http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e34/kkbestul/pot.jpg
Yo! I'll rent you the station squeegee fo a dollar Solid

:D

[Book]

I also "assumed" he hide the station's squeegy...



http://www.anthro.fsu.edu/images/spot-images/einstein.jpg

:oo--> you learn that deductive reasoning at the Police Academy?

[solid]

LOL, piss off guys. I knew I'd take heat from posting that story, but come on!

I stand by what I posted, I respect any guy willing to work. That guy never asked for money, in fact, I looked more homeless than he did. Work clothes and all.

A friendly guy willing to work. Out there trying to get business for himself, that's what I saw.

That in no way deserves disrespect. From me, or anyone.

[Book]

A friendly guy willing to work.



:oo-->




He pointed and said, "there's the water over there." So, I clean my windows and returned the squeegy to the water container.



He pointed. You did the work. Then you gave him a dollar.

[solid]

He pointed. You did the work. Then you gave him a dollar.




I gave him a dollar because I wanted to, he didn't ask for it. When he came back and was crawling under my car looking for the leak in my tire, I was thinking I should have given him $5. He came back out of pride, to "earn" the dollar I gave him.

The man deserves respect, he's not a crackhead drunk like you all assume. Well spoken man, and friendly.

[chad]

i grew up not knowing any black people and was very, very racist.

i moved to texas in my early 20s, worked there for years. knew a lot of black people. made many good friends, work associates, etc. i lost my racism. totally gone.

i moved back north about 10 years ago. all white people. i don't know any black people currently, nor have i for almost 10 years. i see + sense my racism returning.

just an observation on how your current life situation tends to shape your perception of the world. it's been a very odd experience (for me at least).

[Book]

Rent the station squeegee for a $1 or you are a "racist".

:oo-->

[Horn]

We get full service out here in the 3rd world of Costa Rica...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3483/3187230441_d24342f40e.jpg

[Neuro]

So what was the black dude doing hanging around the gas station?

Bumming?

You said you gave him a dollar... perhaps the white fellow did not want to be accosted by someone who was likely feigning friendliness in order to obtain CASH.



The guy never once asked for CASH, though it was obvious he needed it. I respect any man willing to work, even the ones cleaning windows for a dollar.
But, he didn't clean your window, he borrowed you his squeagy, after he had perhaps hidden the stations...

[Libertytree]

Solid decided to give the man his $, not your $ Book. He used his own free choice, no coercion.

I think you need a new shit stirrin' stick, maybe one made out of wood? That cardboard one you're using ain't working too well.

[solid]

But, he didn't clean your window, he borrowed you his squeagy, after he had perhaps hidden the stations...


You are missing the point. I gave him a dollar just because I felt like it. He came back...crawled under my car to help me find the leak in my tire. He would not have done that if I didn't try to help him out. Not that it mattered...but I noticed it was a matter of respect.

Around here, I get asked for money from beggars on a daily basis, every day it seems.

This guy never once begged for money. I've picked up a good read on folks over the years, this guy was the real deal, imo. Of course, no way of explaining that here, so I'll just let that stand for what it is.

[Neuro]

Yes Solid but you also said that he might have hidden the stations squeagy, why would he do such a thing being the real deal?

[Horn]

Not that it mattered...but I noticed it was a matter of respect.

Did you mention to him the story of the pyramid's eye on the back of the note?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1216/614217485_14df22138f.jpg

[Book]

Solid decided to give the man his $, not your $ Book. He used his own free choice, no coercion.



:oo-->




Personally, I really don't give a shit, I'm my own police, my own judge, jury and executioner if some fucker is beggin for it.

[Book]

I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding.



:oo-->

[Libertytree]

Solid decided to give the man his $, not your $ Book. He used his own free choice, no coercion.



:oo-->




Personally, I really don't give a shit, I'm my own police, my own judge, jury and executioner if some fucker is beggin for it.




And your point is? :oo-->

[Neuro]

I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding.



:oo-->
What a humanitarian, having no money but still he goes and buys squeegees to borrow to motorists at stations where they forgot to put them out, and friendly too, expecting nothing in return... ;D

[solid]

And your point is? :oo-->


His point is that if you don't post something that agrees with the collective mentality on this forum, the beat down brigade gets called in force.

I'll go against that mentality.

I judge each man as an individual, regardless of their color of skin or outward appearance.

Folks who judge based upon appearances, are at a disadvantage if what's coming in the future...is what's coming, so we think.

1) You miss the opportunity to get to know some good folks.

2) You focus on appearance, not actions. Actions matter, intent matters...when you are blinded by appearances you will be at a disadvantage, always. Always at a disadvantage. You may learn this lesson the hard way. Actions matter, nothing else. Focus on actions with an open mind.

This is what I see.

[DMac]

A guy casually hanging out at a gas station with a squeegee isn't honest, he's hustling.

Duh.

Better than watching tv while collecting unemployment I guess. :o

[Horn]

I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding.



:oo-->
What a humanitarian, having no money but still he goes and buys squeegees to borrow to motorists at stations where they forgot to put them out, and friendly too, expecting nothing in return... ;D


Most likely a nepotistic relationship with the register person.

This is America dammit, Give a man a fishin pole & let him catch fish!!!

[solid]

A guy casually hanging out at a gas station with a squeegee isn't honest, he's hustling.

Duh.

Better than watching tv while collecting unemployment I guess. :o


I'd like to say he's honestly hustling. ;D At least he's willing to work.

Fact is, when I gave him money he didn't earn....he came back to earn it.

[DMac]

A guy casually hanging out at a gas station with a squeegee isn't honest, he's hustling.

Duh.

Better than watching tv while collecting unemployment I guess. :o


I'd like to say he's honestly hustling. ;D At least he's willing to work.

Fact is, when I gave him money he didn't earn....he came back to earn it.


I think the second guy in your anecdote was a dick, but I can understand 100% his response of "GTF away from me".

Would it be OK if this "honest hustler" approached a single lady at the gas station and it was just turning dark? I'd rather he not be loitering on private property in any capacity.

[Neuro]

I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding.



:oo-->
What a humanitarian, having no money but still he goes and buys squeegees to borrow to motorists at stations where they forgot to put them out, and friendly too, expecting nothing in return... ;D


Most likely a nepotistic relationship with the register person.

Do you think he was Jewish?

[sirgonzo420]

A guy casually hanging out at a gas station with a squeegee isn't honest, he's hustling.

Duh.

Better than watching tv while collecting unemployment I guess. :o


I'd like to say he's honestly hustling. ;D At least he's willing to work.

Fact is, when I gave him money he didn't earn....he came back to earn it.


Ever bust a drug dealer in your "law" enforcement days?

Ones that don't rip people off are honestly hustling... and without violating property rights.

[Horn]

Do you think he was Jewish?


Book's bro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl5vi9ir49g

[solid]

I think the second guy in your anecdote was a dick, but I can understand 100% his response of "GTF away from me".

Would it be OK if this "honest hustler" approached a single lady at the gas station and it was just turning dark? I'd rather he not be loitering on private property in any capacity.


I couldn't understand the guy's response, nor believe what I was hearing. It was one of those "Am I actually hearing this?" moments.

Someone says, good morning to you, and it's OK to tell him to fuck off? We've lost a lot in society, in general, for that to be acceptable.

I do see your point about approaching a woman at dark. Any man of honor would not do that, I can't offer whether or not that "honest" hustler would do that, but I hope he would not.

[solid]

Ever bust a drug dealer in your "law" enforcement days?

Ones that don't rip people off are honestly hustling... and without violating property rights.


If drug dealing was against the law, that's the law I enforced when I was sworn. Would you have wanted me to interpret the law, as I see it?

If so, would you want all police to do that? Folks tend to have different opinions on this matter.

What you are asking, is for police to be their own personal judge as they see fit? Am I correct?

[Neuro]

I think the second guy in your anecdote was a dick, but I can understand 100% his response of "GTF away from me".

Would it be OK if this "honest hustler" approached a single lady at the gas station and it was just turning dark? I'd rather he not be loitering on private property in any capacity.


I couldn't understand the guy's response, nor believe what I was hearing. It was one of those "Am I actually hearing this?" moments.

Someone says, good morning to you, and it's OK to tell him to fuck off? We've lost a lot in society, in general, for that to be acceptable.
Well we really don't know what history the black hustler at the pump and the white man in the car have, maybe it wasn't first encounter?

[solid]

Well we really don't know what history the black hustler at the pump and the white man in the car have, maybe it wasn't first encounter?


That is a good point. Based upon what I heard, I heard the whole convo..I'm leaning towards no, there was no history. But, you are right, I'll never know for sure.

[sirgonzo420]

Ever bust a drug dealer in your "law" enforcement days?

Ones that don't rip people off are honestly hustling... and without violating property rights.


If drug dealing was against the law, that's the law I enforced when I was sworn. Would you have wanted me to interpret the law, as I see it?

If so, would you want all police to do that? Folks tend to have different opinions on this matter.

What you are asking, is for police to be their own personal judge as they see fit? Am I correct?



What if gay sex in public was mandated "by law", would you enforce that? Rouse people from their homes to force them to fornicate in the streets? Where does it stop? How long will "I was just following orders" be a defense?

Who said I wanted police (standing armies) in the first place?

The "Police Department" is a relatively new institution, before which people survived and flourished freely, and without gov't/police intervention.

If *I* were joining the police department, if there were laws that disagreed with my own conscience, I could not honorably enforce them. I would either not enforce laws that disagree with Natural Law/my own conscience, or I would more likely not accept the position in the first place.

I am NOT asking for police. Everyone should be their OWN police... that is to say, people should have personal responsibility and should take care of THEMSELVES.

America survived for a long time with real money and no police, and would still be alive today if she weren't beaten into submission during the War Between the States.

[Horn]

Well we really don't know what history the black hustler at the pump and the white man in the car have, maybe it wasn't first encounter?


A standard reply to all black beggers, as its impossible to tell the difference.

As he pulled in, he had seen that the hustler already had a fish on the line, and was infuriated because he was busted fishing on public land without a license the week prior.

[steyr_m]

I stopped a fight from happening this morning, at a gas station, between a white guy and a black guy.

When I first pulled into the gas station to fill up, I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding. He pointed and said, "there's the water over there." So, I clean my windows and returned the squeegy to the water container. The black guy grabs it and says no, that's my personal one. I thanked him and chatted for a moment, gave him a dollar and wished him good luck. Friendly guy.

So, I finish pumping, and pull forward to add air to one of my tires. As I'm adding air, the black guy starts asking how low it was. I told him low, it's got a slow leak. He starts checking the tire, looking for where it might be leaking helping me out. He was well spoken, and told me he's in school to become a mechanic and was unemployed, he picks up work fixing people's cars, odd jobs here and there.

As I'm adding air, a car pulls up next to us. The guy gets out, and starts adding water to his radiator. The black guy says, "Good morning, how are you today?"

White guy quote, verbatim..."Get the fuck away from me." Black guy, "What? I ask you good morning and you tell me to fuck off." Downhill everything went.

The white guy threatened the black guy first, as I was listening and filling up my tire. The black guy responded by taking off his backpack, putting up his fists, and saying "you disrespect me and tell me you are going to kick my ass...if anyone's ass is going to be kicked, it's yours. Let's do it!"

It's interesting to witness a situation just go south like that...so, I finish filling up my tire. I step between the two guys and just say it's not worth it. They both immediately backed off, the white guy said, "agreed, it's not worth it". The black guy was still posturing with "disrespect" comments, but backing away from it all. But, I separated them that easily. I was surprised at how easily. It was obvious neither one wanted to fight. All it took was a third person to step in the middle.

I don't care what color your skin is, your social background...disrespect is disrespect. It's a universal language, bottom line.


I'm not saying you're BS'ing [honestly] but it sounds like a story from the social engineers in Hollywood.

Not all blacks are bad, I'll never say that; but my experience is that when one is being friendly to me out of the blue -- there's an ulterior motive.

[Awoke]

Solid, it is obvious that your experience with this guy was a positive one (Until the second guy acted like a douchebag and caused tension).

I can respect that he was courteous, polite and well mannered, and I can respect that he might have been down on his luck and out of work. Nothing bad about that.

I just can't help but wonder how that same guy might have treated you if he was out with 10 of his friends, and they were all down on their luck and out of work, and it was night time, and they were in their own neighborhood.

That being said, color doesn't dictate conduct, and there have been plenty of swarmings and muggings performed by groups of whites as well. To me, it is all about environment. What is going on at the time, who people are with at the time, what is the mob mentality at the time, etc.
The biggest noteable difference is that there seems to be a rash of these "Freakouts" and assaults at fast food places, where people are getting hurt and mobs are rioting, etc, and I'm sorry to say that it seems that most of it is being carried out by inner-city black youths.

I'm not saying that any other color of people are not capable of acting the same way, but I haven't seen a lot of evidence pointing to groups of whites particiating in "chimpouts" if you know what I mean.

Even with all that said, no one can deny that TPTB are nurturing hate towards "whitey", and blacks are the group that are being nurtured with that sentiment the most.

[solid]

Not all blacks are bad, I'll never say that; but my experience is that when one is being friendly to me out of the blue -- there's an ulterior motive.


I agree. No ulterior motive came to about in that short time, however.

What I find interesting, is the response to that post I made...the worst was assumed about the black guy, while the white guy was defended.

A bunch of BS, if I ever saw it. The white guy was an asshole, and if he treated me that way...I would have reacted the same way as the black guy.

I should have never posted that experience this morning, on this forum. Should have known better.

[steyr_m]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvU9V4QuYI&feature=player_embedded


If that was a white person saying the same thing, it would make headline news. Still, lots of social engineering there -- if it wasn't staged.

[solid]

I just can't help but wonder how that same guy might have treated you if he was out with 10 of his friends, and they were all down on their luck and out of work, and it was night time, and they were in their own neighborhood.

Even with all that said, no one can deny that TPTB are nurturing hate towards "whitey", and blacks are the group that are being nurtured with that sentiment the most.


I don't know that guy enough, but if he was out with 10 friends all down on their luck...I would have been in a tight spot. Same goes, for any 10 folks of any race, imo.

I agree with you though, white folks...particularly white men, we are the punching bags of society. We take punches, but can't deliver them back because of all the shaming, double standards, etc...set against us. That is frustrating.

The only solution, as I see, is to see past that and not lower ourselves to their level. By seeing folks as individuals, we crush that...they don't have anything, on us.

[Book]

The black guy responded by taking off his backpack, putting up his fists, and saying "you disrespect me and tell me you are going to kick my ass...if anyone's ass is going to be kicked, it's yours. Let's do it!"



The white guy was minding his own business adding water to his radiator when this black guy who "rents" the station squeegee approached the white guy.

Now you say this black guy was also "putting up his fists" demanding "respect" from a white guy who only wanted to be left alone while adding water to his radiator.

:oo-->

[Book]

I gave him money he didn't earn...



Self-hating white man who just "gives" money to black men for no reason except maybe guilt or stupidity. Rewarding bad behavior.

:D ...and attacked the other white customer at the gas station when he resisted the black hustler. An accomplice to the crime.

[Awoke]

The only solution, as I see, is to see past that and not lower ourselves to their level. By seeing folks as individuals, we crush that...they don't have anything, on us.


Yes brother, but that only applies if you are given the option to see folks as an individual. In the Chimpout videos, that chance doesn't seem to be presented. Just sayin...

[Book]

Someone says, good morning to you, and it's OK to tell him to fuck off?



Absolutely...an obvious hustler approaches you as you are adding water to your radiator. It's called Situational Awareness and the other white customer nailed it.

Why allow any stranger approach you and get close enough to stab you?

:oo--> oh...he was real friendly and said Good Morning while robbing you

[solid]

I gave him money he didn't earn...



Self-hating white man who just "gives" money to black men for no reason except maybe guilt or stupidity. Rewarding bad behavior.

:D ...and attacked the other white customer at the gas station when he resisted the black hustler. An accomplice to the crime.


Does the term "context" mean anything at all to you, Book? Or, do you just get a hard on for taking things out of context?

OK..how to say this without getting banned, I'll try. Book, your posts are very similar to what an asshole might post. Of course, I'm not accusing you to be one...but, if there was similarities, they would be quite obvious.

See...an asshole posts to get a rise out of people by changing the context of their posts...out of context, uses their words against them. I am not accusing YOU of that, just thought I'd make that known, how some assholes may work on the internets.

[SLV^GLD]

He'll get a few more miles out of that cardboard stick just yet.

[Book]

The white guy was an asshole



So you keep depicting him as such for not allowing a stranger to approach him while he was adding water to his radiator at a gas station where strange men hide the station squeegee.

Whitey = Asshole
Black Hustler = Nice friendly guy who loiters at the gas station hiding the squeegee.

:oo-->

[Horn]

http://www.squeegeebandit.com/img_download/squeegee_bandit_square.jpg

http://www.squeegeebandit.com/press_kit.html

[sirgonzo420]

Someone says, good morning to you, and it's OK to tell him to fuck off?



Absolutely...an obvious hustler approaches you as you are adding water to your radiator. It's called Situational Awareness and the other white customer nailed it.

Why allow any stranger approach you and get close enough to stab you?

:oo--> oh...he was real friendly and said Good Morning while robbing you


It might not be ultra-polite to tell someone to "fuck off" after they've just tried to exchange pleasantries with you, but if I has just said "good day" to someone and they told me to "fuck off", I wouldn't speak another word to them. I wouldn't get all in their face for them "disrespecting" me; after all, I was the one who initiated the encounter.

Solid, if the black guy saw fit to punch the white guy for his disrespect, would you have supported/agreed with him (the black guy)?

The black dude was as least as much as an asshole as the white guy. If you are nice enough to say "good morning" or something to someone, then you are nice enough to not get all defensive if they don't take too well to your talking to them.

[Book]

He'll get a few more miles out of that cardboard stick just yet.


:oo-->




Well, I went from feeling insecure about one subject to feeling foolish for another one.
I knew I was gonna come out of this feeling dumb somehow.

[Awoke]

If I was polite enough to say "good morning" to a person, and that person told me to "fuck off", I would not hesitate to tell them to go fuck themselves. In fact, I have been there, and I get aggressive.

You guys are not being realistic with this attack on Solid, imo. Black was polite, white guy was a douche, solid diffused the situation.
Bravo.

No need to try to defend the white asshole or villianize the black guy.

[Horn]

http://www.thecontrarianmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/asshole.jpg

[Book]

No need to try to defend the white asshole man or villianize the black guy hustler.



This whole thread by Solid does just the opposite.

[ximmy]

Black guy to Solid:

"You disrespect me for being neighborly to you by giving me a dollar. That's racist! You assuming a brother needs cash money help. All I wanted to do was help you out by offering you the use of my personal squeegee... Put up your dukes!"

[solid]

No need to try to defend the white asshole man or villianize the black guy hustler.



This whole thread by Solid does just the opposite.




Your head is in the fucking clouds, let us know when you see reality.

[DMac]

No need to try to defend the white asshole man or villianize the black guy hustler.



This whole thread by Solid does just the opposite.




Your head is in the fucking clouds, let us know when you see reality.


Sorry solid but I'm with Book on this one. That guy was hustling and from where I'm sitting it looks like you encouraged him.

It reminds me of those signs near campgrounds that read "don't feed the bears" - it seems easy and the right thing to do but eventually it will lead to someone getting hurt.

[Awoke]

Hustlers don't use manners.

[Horn]

http://www.saidthegramophone.com/images/bear_picnic.jpg

[DMac]

Hustlers don't use manners.


Spend a few weeks in NY and you won't say that again. The best hustlers have manners. The old "more flies with honey" trick.

[Book]

Hustlers don't use manners.



Saying Good Morning while hiding the station squeegee is not "manners". It is a hustle.

:oo-->

[ximmy]

Hustlers don't use manners.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGd45QmUUQ4

[SLV^GLD]

He'll get a few more miles out of that cardboard stick just yet.


:oo-->




Well, I went from feeling insecure about one subject to feeling foolish for another one.
I knew I was gonna come out of this feeling dumb somehow.



Non Sequitur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur)
::)

[willie pete]

I can remember several years ago on the off ramps on I-95 downtown there'd always be black guys hanging out, when the light was red, they'd come out and start washing your windshield, wether you wanted them to or not, then of course EXPECT a TIP ...it was VERY intimidating, I mean any normal person is going to think "WTF are these guys gonna do?" ....well it only had to happen to a few tourists, and it ceased :D

[Horn]

Some of the greatest hustlers of the human race have been awarded the Noble Prize.

You cannot simply devalue their worth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga-ijQP0KxY

[Neuro]

I gave him money he didn't earn...



Self-hating white man who just "gives" money to black men for no reason except maybe guilt or stupidity. Rewarding bad behavior.

:D ...and attacked the other white customer at the gas station when he resisted the black hustler. An accomplice to the crime.


Does the term "context" mean anything at all to you, Book? Or, do you just get a hard on for taking things out of context?

OK..how to say this without getting banned, I'll try. Book, your posts are very similar to what an asshole might post. Of course, I'm not accusing you to be one...but, if there was similarities, they would be quite obvious.

See...an asshole posts to get a rise out of people by changing the context of their posts...out of context, uses their words against them. I am not accusing YOU of that, just thought I'd make that known, how some assholes may work on the internets.
Well done both of you, you make me laugh!...

[osoab]

No need to try to defend the white asshole man or villianize the black guy hustler.



This whole thread by Solid does just the opposite.




Better go check the OP. This is dys's thread.

Are you insinuating you wouldn't have posted if you knew that this wasn't a thread by solid? :dunno

[Book]

...if you knew that this wasn't a thread by solid?



I only see SOLID posting "BLACKS GOOD-WHITEY BAD" in this thread today...not dys. He bailed on this thread last month.

:) but you know this

[osoab]

...if you knew that this wasn't a thread by solid?



I only see SOLID posting "BLACKS GOOD-WHITEY BAD" in this thread today...not dys. He bailed on this thread last month.

:) but you know this




I think you are making assumptions Book.

Solid gave his side of the events.
There are 2 other stories that will probably never be told to any of us.

Why bust balls over something so trivial?

Full disclosure, I feel I have been shat upon by more white folks than any other race. A black man in a pink ski mask is the only to ever point a gun at me. ;)

[Book]

I can remember several years ago on the off ramps on I-95 downtown there'd always be black guys hanging out, when the light was red, they'd come out and start washing your windshield, whether you wanted them to or not, then of course EXPECT a TIP ...it was VERY intimidating, I mean any normal person is going to think "WTF are these guys gonna do?"



Intimidation is the name of their game:




The black guy responded by taking off his backpack, putting up his fists, and saying "you disrespect me and tell me you are going to kick my ass...if anyone's ass is going to be kicked, it's yours. Let's do it!"

[ximmy]

A black man in a pink ski mask is the only to ever point a gun at me. ;)


anyone in a pink ski mask should be suspect...

[Book]

Solid gave his side of the events.



http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25120.0;attach=748 5;image

Can't blame us for questioning it.

|--0--| look at the photo. can you ever imagine the owner of the gas station confirming Solid's version?

[Bullion_Bob]

I stopped a fight from happening this morning, at a gas station, between a white guy and a black guy.

When I first pulled into the gas station to fill up, I was looking for a squeegy to clean my windows. A black guy was hanging out at one of the pumps, and asked me if I was looking for one, I said yes, and he reaches above the pump where he had one hiding. He pointed and said, "there's the water over there." So, I clean my windows and returned the squeegy to the water container. The black guy grabs it and says no, that's my personal one. I thanked him and chatted for a moment, gave him a dollar and wished him good luck. Friendly guy.

So, I finish pumping, and pull forward to add air to one of my tires. As I'm adding air, the black guy starts asking how low it was. I told him low, it's got a slow leak. He starts checking the tire, looking for where it might be leaking helping me out. He was well spoken, and told me he's in school to become a mechanic and was unemployed, he picks up work fixing people's cars, odd jobs here and there.

As I'm adding air, a car pulls up next to us. The guy gets out, and starts adding water to his radiator. The black guy says, "Good morning, how are you today?"

White guy quote, verbatim..."Get the fuck away from me." Black guy, "What? I ask you good morning and you tell me to fuck off." Downhill everything went.

The white guy threatened the black guy first, as I was listening and filling up my tire. The black guy responded by taking off his backpack, putting up his fists, and saying "you disrespect me and tell me you are going to kick my ass...if anyone's ass is going to be kicked, it's yours. Let's do it!"

It's interesting to witness a situation just go south like that...so, I finish filling up my tire. I step between the two guys and just say it's not worth it. They both immediately backed off, the white guy said, "agreed, it's not worth it". The black guy was still posturing with "disrespect" comments, but backing away from it all. But, I separated them that easily. I was surprised at how easily. It was obvious neither one wanted to fight. All it took was a third person to step in the middle.

I don't care what color your skin is, your social background...disrespect is disrespect. It's a universal language, bottom line.



A) The black guy went straight into chimp out mode after not getting a nice response.

B) Black guy not only dissed you over $5 squeegee, but then proceeded to assume you were incapable of checking your tire for an air leak.

;D

edit: btw....no single person actually owns a squeegee at a gas station. Bit of a head scratcher that is.

[osoab]

Solid gave his side of the events.



http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25120.0;attach=748 5;image

Can't blame us for questioning it.

|--0--| look at the photo. can you ever imagine the owner of the gas station confirming Solid's version?


No blame to be placed. Your questioning split second decisions with thought out scenarios. It's an apples and oranges comparison.

Solid did what he did. If he had not posted about it, you and I would have never known. So who gives a fuck?

[solid]

Solid did what he did. If he had not posted about it, you and I would have never known. So who gives a fuck?




Right, and what a damn mistake it was posting about it too. Misinterpretations all over the place, major assumptions. Talk about getting dog piled on.....even Ximmy's got a comment. :whip

I tell ya, being part of the GSUS community here isn't about "waking up", it's more about how much of a beating you can take sometimes.

[Book]

...So who gives a fuck?



Right, and what a damn mistake it was posting about it too.



God forbid we mention Situational Awareness (http://www.personalsafetygroup.com/about/situational-awareness-training/) and warn of the "Denial" aspect as demonstrated by Solid in this thread at GSUS.

To do so makes us "racists".

:oo-->


Apathy, complacency and denial are the true “enemy within” and the primary barriers to situational awareness and “Condition Yellow”

Criminals read our body language and are very astute at discerning those of us in Condition Yellow vs Condition White, as they move through their victim selection process.

[osoab]

...So who gives a fuck?



Right, and what a damn mistake it was posting about it too.



God forbid we mention Situational Awareness (http://www.personalsafetygroup.com/about/situational-awareness-training/) and warn of the "Denial" aspect as demonstrated by Solid in this thread at GSUS.

To do so makes us "racists".

:oo-->


Apathy, complacency and denial are the true “enemy within” and the primary barriers to situational awareness and “Condition Yellow”

Criminals read our body language and are very astute at discerning those of us in Condition Yellow vs Condition White, as they move through their victim selection process.


I am not here to question what solid did over the entire event. Would I have done something different? Probably, but it doesn't matter because the event has yet to take place. :oo-->

[Book]

Would I have done something different?



Apparently Solid wouldn't.

:oo-->

[osoab]

Would I have done something different?



Apparently Solid wouldn't.

:oo-->


:ROFL:

That has to be one of the most irrelevant comebacks I have seen on this board.

Seriously Book, this place is far above GIM2 standards. ;)

[Bullion_Bob]

I would have an issue with someone telling me not to use "their" squeegee at a gas station. I would think they either a) mentally imbalanced, or b) looking to cause trouble.

Did buddy work there? If so did he get fired for escalating physical confrontations with customers?

Also who the hell hangs out at a gas station? Maybe it's a bit of a+b.

Someone tells you to gtfo, after you get in their face first (in any way)....you do that. Leave them alone...not proceed to demand that nice hello back by picking a fight with them to show them a "lesson".

I'm giving this gas station event a castigation fail.

;D

[ximmy]

Would I have done something different?



Apparently Solid wouldn't.

:oo-->


:ROFL:

That has to be one of the most irrelevant comebacks I have seen on this board.

Seriously Book, this place is far above GIM2 standards. ;)

Was not this one MORE irrelevant??? >:(




Hustlers don't use manners.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGd45QmUUQ4

[Neuro]

Solid did what he did. If he had not posted about it, you and I would have never known. So who gives a fuck?




Right, and what a damn mistake it was posting about it too. Misinterpretations all over the place, major assumptions. Talk about getting dog piled on.....even Ximmy's got a comment. :whip

I tell ya, being part of the GSUS community here isn't about "waking up", it's more about how much of a beating you can take sometimes.
Hey, don't take it too hard... I think you are a good guy, and probably that black guy wasn't to bad either, even though he did use some tricks to make a few bucks...

[zap]

Solid did what he did. If he had not posted about it, you and I would have never known. So who gives a fuck?




Right, and what a damn mistake it was posting about it too. Misinterpretations all over the place, major assumptions. Talk about getting dog piled on.....even Ximmy's got a comment. :whip

I tell ya, being part of the GSUS community here isn't about "waking up", it's more about how much of a beating you can take sometimes.




Oh Solid, ya kinda set yourself up sometimes ;), But all of you shouldn't pile on him like that.

Solid is a good hearted, honest,friendly guy giving people of any color the benefit of the doubt, Maybe he is just looking for the good in people, (I get that). But that can get you into trouble!

I guess you are just not as cynical as most of us here.

Maybe you haven't been burned enough. Just be careful and not to trusting ! (Watch your back)

[osoab]

Would I have done something different?



Apparently Solid wouldn't.

:oo-->


:ROFL:

That has to be one of the most irrelevant comebacks I have seen on this board.

Seriously Book, this place is far above GIM2 standards. ;)

Was not this one MORE irrelevant??? >:(




Hustlers don't use manners.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGd45QmUUQ4



No, yours was hilarious. TYVM

[Awoke]

Meh. The white guy was in chimp out mode long before teh black guy was. AFAIC it sounds like the black dude was only responding to a threat to his honor. Some of you would understand that and some of you wouldn't.

[ximmy]

Meh. The white guy was in chimp out mode long before teh black guy was. AFAIC it sounds like the black dude was only responding to a threat to his honor. Some of you would understand that and some of you wouldn't.


From what I've seen, a man who "fights" for his honor usually doesn't have any...

[Book]

http://s3.images.com/huge.22.110952.JPG

http://pajamasmedia.com/files/2008/11/squeegee_guy.jpg

[MrCottonsParrot]

I stand by what I posted, I respect any guy willing to work. That guy never asked for money, in fact, I looked more homeless than he did. Work clothes and all.


Then how come nobody offered YOU a buck to squeeze their squeegie? This has all the makings of a bullschit story. You made it up or at least embellished it. The conversations even sound fake and contrived.

Keep in mind, I don't assume everyone who'd black is bad, but this is just obviously a fairytale.

Personally I ignore the gas station vultures. It's a sleezy way to try to force a buck.

[Awoke]

Meh. The white guy was in chimp out mode long before teh black guy was. AFAIC it sounds like the black dude was only responding to a threat to his honor. Some of you would understand that and some of you wouldn't.


From what I've seen, a man who "fights" for his honor usually doesn't have any...


Call it what you will then. I would react harshly to that situation. I really don't care if you would or not. I just know that I have been there, and I have reacted harshly to undeserved rude behaviour. I still do to this day.

You'll either have some manners, or learn some manners the hard way.

Yes, my father taught me that.