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Ares
24th April 2011, 08:36 AM
All those who were hoping global stock markets would surge tomorrow based on a ridiculous rumor that China would revalue the CNY by 10% will have to wait. Instead, China has decided to serve the world another surprise. Following last week's announcement by PBoC Governor Zhou (Where's Waldo) Xiaochuan that the country's excessive stockpile of USD reserves has to be urgently diversified, today we get a sense of just how big the upcoming Chinese defection from the "buy US debt" Nash equilibrium will be. Not surprisingly, China appears to be getting ready to cut its USD reserves by roughly the amount of dollars that was recently printed by the Fed, or $2 trilion or so. And to think that this comes just as news that the Japanese pension fund will soon be dumping who knows what. So, once again, how about that "end of QE" again?

From Xinhua:

China's foreign exchange reserves increased by 197.4 billion U.S. dollars in the first three months of this year to 3.04 trillion U.S. dollars by the end of March.

Xia Bin, a member of the monetary policy committee of the central bank, said on Tuesday that 1 trillion U.S. dollars would be sufficient. He added that China should invest its foreign exchange reserves more strategically, using them to acquire resources and technology needed for the real economy.

And as if the public sector making it all too clear what is about to happen was not enough, here is the private one as well:

China should reduce its excessive foreign exchange reserves and further diversify its holdings, Tang Shuangning, chairman of China Everbright Group, said on Saturday.

The amount of foreign exchange reserves should be restricted to between 800 billion to 1.3 trillion U.S. dollars, Tang told a forum in Beijing, saying that the current reserve amount is too high.

Tang's remarks echoed the stance of Zhou Xiaochuan, governor of China's central bank, who said on Monday that China's foreign exchange reserves "exceed our reasonable requirement" and that the government should upgrade and diversify its foreign exchange management using the excessive reserves.

Tang also said that China should further diversify its foreign exchange holdings. He suggested five channels for using the reserves, including replenishing state-owned capital in key sectors and enterprises, purchasing strategic resources, expanding overseas investment, issuing foreign bonds and improving national welfare in areas like education and health.

However, these strategies can only treat the symptoms but not the root cause, he said, noting that the key is to reform the mechanism of how the reserves are generated and managed.

The last sentence says it all. While China is certainly tired of recycling US Dollars, it still has no viable alternative, especially as long as its own currency is relegated to the C-grade of not even SDR-backing currencies. But that will all change very soon. Once the push for broad Chinese currency acceptance is in play, the CNY and the USD will be unpegged, promptly followed by China dumping the bulk of its USD exposure, and also sending the world a message that US debt is no longer a viable investment opportunity. In fact, we are confident that the reval is a likely a key preceding step to any strategic decision vis-a-vis US FX exposure (read bond purchasing/selling intentions). As such, all those Americans pushing China to revalue, may want to consider that such an action could well guarantee hyperinflation, once the Fed is stuck as being the only buyer of US debt.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/china-proposes-cut-two-thirds-its-3-trillion-usd-holdings

platinumdude
24th April 2011, 08:41 AM
Is this dollar positive?

SilverMagnet
24th April 2011, 08:50 AM
Americans will still pour into Walmart the very next day, blissfully unaware of the vicious cycle.

Cebu_4_2
24th April 2011, 08:56 AM
but is dumping the USD debt going to be positive for China currency? I wouldn't doubt it. We are 3rd world faster than I thought.

Ponce
24th April 2011, 09:50 AM
Every time that China and Japan dumps the dollar is the same as the Fed turning on their printing presses, by dumping the dollar those dumping countries become stronger.....is like getting rid of a sickness.

Jazkal
24th April 2011, 11:06 AM
Every time that China and Japan dumps the dollar is the same as the Fed turning on their printing presses
Inflation accelerates.

ShortJohnSilver
24th April 2011, 03:53 PM
Q: does China need US-produced commodities or do they have enough of their own that they can consume domestically and still export some? For instance, grain, petroleum, wood pulp, etc.

Ponce
24th April 2011, 04:43 PM
Short? they already stopped exporting grains, oil, precious metal....which includes gold.

Large Sarge
24th April 2011, 04:58 PM
this is huge news here

Japan is not buying any U.S. debt with their catastrophe, and now China is dumping it

meaning the fed was monetizing 70% of all debt before, now I would guess it is closer to 90%+ of all debt will be monetized....

HUGE NEWS HERE

FunnyMoney
24th April 2011, 05:01 PM
Q: does China need US-produced commodities or do they have enough of their own that they can consume domestically and still export some? For instance, grain, petroleum, wood pulp, etc.


Currently, China is a net importer of oil and food. Down the list they also import a number of critical raw materials. However, their virtual monopoly on rare earth metals is a pretty big equalilzer currently.

China has no intention of doing anything drastic and they are not in a position to do so as they need to continue to spend their reserves with more than a semblance of worth to them.

ShortJohnSilver
24th April 2011, 05:56 PM
Q: does China need US-produced commodities or do they have enough of their own that they can consume domestically and still export some? For instance, grain, petroleum, wood pulp, etc.


Currently, China is a net importer of oil and food. Down the list they also import a number of critical raw materials. However, their virtual monopoly on rare earth metals is a pretty big equalilzer currently.

China has no intention of doing anything drastic and they are not in a position to do so as they need to continue to spend their reserves with more than a semblance of worth to them.


Until they can produce enough to feed and clothe themselves they still have to work to get foreign exchange. If that ever reverses, they can say "screw you!" to the world and depend on their own internal production and consumption, and let the USD <-> Yuan rate go to pieces.

osoab
24th April 2011, 06:19 PM
I thought that with the weird action on the price on Friday, that it was almost a give that the spot price quoted on the mainstream sites were going to spike at the open. That is what I was expecting to happen any.

madfranks
24th April 2011, 06:28 PM
this is huge news here

Japan is not buying any U.S. debt with their catastrophe, and now China is dumping it

meaning the fed was monetizing 70% of all debt before, now I would guess it is closer to 90%+ of all debt will be monetized....

HUGE NEWS HERE




Exactly my first thought. There's no way QE2 ends in June, they will either continue it unabated or slow it down until the jolt to the economy is too much to handle and crank it back up. From this point until the death of the dollar, US gov't spending will be paid for through money printing.

Eyebone
24th April 2011, 07:00 PM
They can say they're going to "dump it" but who is going to take it?

Don't they have to find a sucker?

Ares
24th April 2011, 07:09 PM
They can say they're going to "dump it" but who is going to take it?

Don't they have to find a sucker?


Federal Reserve will be forced to buy them in order to keep the rates down..

Ponce
24th April 2011, 07:11 PM
And they are "forced" to buy them by printing more funny money?........ :-\

mightymanx
24th April 2011, 08:30 PM
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Ash_Williams
25th April 2011, 05:32 AM
They can say they're going to "dump it" but who is going to take it?

Don't they have to find a sucker?

They don't dump, they just wait until the bonds mature and not re-invest.

Large Sarge
25th April 2011, 05:41 AM
They can say they're going to "dump it" but who is going to take it?

Don't they have to find a sucker?

They don't dump, they just wait until the bonds mature and not re-invest.


I doubt they can wait that long for all their holdings (20 year bonds)

but in part you are correct...

Ash_Williams
25th April 2011, 07:09 AM
I doubt they can wait that long for all their holdings (20 year bonds)

but in part you are correct..

They could sell to other investors but I don't think they will.

It would be good to know what they've invested in to get to three trillion. It could be 20 year bonds or 6 month tbills. I don't know where to find that information though.

Sparky
25th April 2011, 10:50 AM
If you were planning to dump an asset that you had too much of, would you pre-announce it to the market?