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Ponce
25th April 2011, 09:22 AM
First post of the day...........good morning to one and all.
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Copper Crimes: Worldwide Theft of Copper on the Increase.

Written by Taras Berezowsky
Monday, 25 April 2011 14:36
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Attention Investors: Energy ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds) are red hot. But with so many to choose from, how do you find the one that's the best fit and the most profitable? The answer is in this new report - yours free for a limited time Click here for access. Forget about China’s slight dip in demand for copper – the red metal is still red hot all over the world. So hot that copper crimes undeniably rising more than ever. So hot, even, that three whole nations suffered Internet outages due to the desirability of copper.

Surely you’ve read or heard about the funniest instance (yet with the most widespread fallout) of copper scrapping involved 75-year-old Hayastan Shakarian (above) from the village of Armazi who, according to police, was trying to root up copper scrap to sell for extra money. Instead of finding copper, this enterprising lady effectively cut through a fiber optic cable with her shovel – which cut off Internet service to 90 percent of Armenian users for almost 12 hours, and blacked out the web in parts of Georgia and Azerbaijan too, according to Fox News.

“I have no idea what the Internet is,” she is quoted as having told AFP.

The Fox News report mentioned that copper “looting” is a common way to make money in the former USSR, with scavengers successfully unearthing hundreds of meters of copper cable. But it’s not just the former Soviet Union scavengers that are making the news.

Just before Christmas last year in Barkestone le Vale, Leicestershire, England, thieves stole away with copper scrap worth nearly $500 in today’s prices from a farm in the middle of the day. (Police noted that a vehicle would have been necessary to haul the loot.) A month before that, AT&T offered a $3,000 reward for information on the copper-stealing scoundrels in the Atlanta area whose shenanigans cost 7,000 customers and two schools their phone line service. And just this week in Wichita, Kan., police assessed $200,000 worth of damage after someone broke into two empty warehouses and stripped the copper fixtures and wiring. Things are so bad that legislators in Virginia, for example, moved to change state scrap yard laws to protect “precious metals” early this year. (A hilariously all-inclusive definition was put forth in trying to tackle this vexing problem: “Precious metals include steel, copper wire, aluminum, brass bearings, light and gas fixtures, locks, lead and brass water pipes and all kinds of raw materials and construction equipment.” So literally everything and the kitchen sink, then?)

Of course, with the LME price at about $9,355 per ton this week (roughly $4.20 a pound on the COMEX), folks shouldn’t let copper just pass them by. That’s why several sources actually give copper seekers and scavengers the inside scoop on how to get their hands on it. Clearly, an eHow page exists, titled “How to Find Scrap Copper,” complete with five-step instructions. Associated Content also provides an entry called “Places to Find Scrap Copper” (sample line: “Try to hit the trash routes in the early evening as people are putting out trash and others have yet to pick through it”).

So the lessons here are evident: Keep an eye on your copper if you own it or build with it, and if you want to make a couple extra bucks, start your search with unguarded junk cars or curbside trash – just don’t cut my Internet, OK?


http://oilprice.com/Metals/Copper/Copper-Crimes-Worldwide-Theft-of-Copper-on-the-Increase.html

woodman
25th April 2011, 09:27 AM
I had 600 feet of #10 4wire non marking cord stolen out of my job trailer last week. Effin' tweakers! They probably got @ $100 for the copper, but for me to replace the cords which were brand new and I'd just put together (never used) it will cost me around $1800. Turned out I had insurance through my liability insurance but I still have to pay the $500 deductible and probably higher ins premiums in the future.

gunDriller
25th April 2011, 12:02 PM
i have a small pile of copper next to my driveway on purpose - so if someone takes it, i will know that someone with burglar intentions was there.

i would like to find out how to implant a GPS device in my copper wire "bait" stash.

zap
25th April 2011, 12:14 PM
I have a big pile of scrap copper, maybe a 1000 lb. I was thinking about having the guys load it and taking it in, I called on Thurs and they said 2.00 a lb, I thought that was to cheap, any thoughts?

Had a contractor call me and he needs us to replace a copper downspout, apparently somebody stole it right off the house.

Ponce
25th April 2011, 12:48 PM
The $2.00 copper of today will be worth $5.00 tomorrow.......when there is less it then cost more.

zap
25th April 2011, 12:55 PM
The $2.00 copper of today will be worth $5.00 tomorrow.......when there is less it then cost more.


Thanks Ponce, I think I'll hold on for a while, hell it has been sitting there for 8 years let it sit a while longer :D

TheNocturnalEgyptian
25th April 2011, 01:49 PM
I am willing to buy scrap copper slightly above scrap price, in order to make orgonite. I'll also pay shipping. Anybody sitting on copper who wants to get rid of some of it (I don't need hundreds of pounds) would be kind if they considered selling it to me. I've dealt with several board members in the past and no complaints so far : )

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5508853746_60b8a65d08.jpg


And yeah, people who steal metals can go straight to heck.

woodman
25th April 2011, 02:47 PM
I have a big pile of scrap copper, maybe a 1000 lb. I was thinking about having the guys load it and taking it in, I called on Thurs and they said 2.00 a lb, I thought that was to cheap, any thoughts?

Had a contractor call me and he needs us to replace a copper downspout, apparently somebody stole it right off the house.


Yup, hang onto the copper. It will be worth more in the future.

Bobthetomato
25th April 2011, 03:48 PM
$2 bucks per pound is robbery. I get 3.60 a pound for #1 copper. Look for other scrap yards to take it.

sunnyandseventy
25th April 2011, 03:50 PM
I am willing to buy scrap copper slightly above scrap price, in order to make orgonite. I'll also pay shipping. Anybody sitting on copper who wants to get rid of some of it (I don't need hundreds of pounds) would be kind if they considered selling it to me. I've dealt with several board members in the past and no complaints so far : )

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5508853746_60b8a65d08.jpg


And yeah, people who steal metals can go straight to heck.


Nice piece of orgonite.

Cebu_4_2
25th April 2011, 06:36 PM
I am willing to buy scrap copper slightly above scrap price, in order to make orgonite. I'll also pay shipping. Anybody sitting on copper who wants to get rid of some of it (I don't need hundreds of pounds) would be kind if they considered selling it to me. I've dealt with several board members in the past and no complaints so far : )


I can vouch, definitely a class act here!

All I have is lead alloy as scrap.

zap
25th April 2011, 06:40 PM
I am willing to buy scrap copper slightly above scrap price, in order to make orgonite. I'll also pay shipping. Anybody sitting on copper who wants to get rid of some of it (I don't need hundreds of pounds) would be kind if they considered selling it to me. I've dealt with several board members in the past and no complaints so far : )

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5508853746_60b8a65d08.jpg


And yeah, people who steal metals can go straight to heck.


Sure, I'll sell you some send me a pm. Its just flat sheet scrap.

BarneyFag
25th April 2011, 06:46 PM
Well I already posted this in another thread. 2 weks ago I took my copper in and went straight t the coin dealer.
I made $1250 off 2 50 gallon barrels of wire. I called around , the highest I got was $2.75 unstripped, strip it you get almost double I believe.

My business does a lot of wire theft replacement, I did over $150,000 in just wire in 2010, not including labor.

woodman
25th April 2011, 08:01 PM
Well I already posted this in another thread. 2 weks ago I took my copper in and went straight t the coin dealer.
I made $1250 off 2 50 gallon barrels of wire. I called around , the highest I got was $2.75 unstripped, strip it you get almost double I believe.

My business does a lot of wire theft replacement, I did over $150,000 in just wire in 2010, not including labor.


Maybe you can help me find replacement wire. I am having a hard time finding the wire to replace the cords that were stolen from my trailer. This stuff isn't cheap either.

osoab
25th April 2011, 08:04 PM
Well I already posted this in another thread. 2 weks ago I took my copper in and went straight t the coin dealer.
I made $1250 off 2 50 gallon barrels of wire. I called around , the highest I got was $2.75 unstripped, strip it you get almost double I believe.

My business does a lot of wire theft replacement, I did over $150,000 in just wire in 2010, not including labor.


You need one of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MVA-RekmQ4

gunDriller
26th April 2011, 07:22 AM
I am willing to buy scrap copper slightly above scrap price, in order to make orgonite.


can you use lead weights, like from car wheels, for orgonite ?

i save them, but i probably only have a pound.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
26th April 2011, 02:50 PM
I am willing to buy scrap copper slightly above scrap price, in order to make orgonite.


can you use lead weights, like from car wheels, for orgonite ?

i save them, but i probably only have a pound.



I generally use everything *except* lead for orgonite.