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Ares
25th April 2011, 10:59 AM
The SHTFPlan's Mac Slavo brings us the story of one Bill Cramer who decided to cash in on his silver profits after a nearly decade holding period (under the assumption he was receiving warehousing services considering he was paying storage fees), confident that he could simply receive the metal he held with a broker, until he heard the following 5 very disturbing words: "Sorry, delivery is not possible."

From SHTFPlan:

"Bill Cramer of St. Louis was pretty confident everything was on the up-and-up. He purchased 5000 ounces of silver back in 2003 for a spot price of $4.94 and stored them with an east coast broker. When he was discussing his holdings with his coin dealer, the dealer dared him to try and take delivery of the metal.

Bill took him up on that dare and contacted his broker requesting to take delivery of his supposed physical metal holdings, for which he had been paying storage fees for years. As you may have guessed, the broker advised him that physically delivering the metals was not possible."

Here is how Bill recounts his experience:

So, I took his dare, I called them up, it was June of last year. The metal I had purchased in January of ’03. I said “I’d really like to take delivery of my metal – the five thousand ounces.” They go “well, that’s not possible.” And, I go “well, I’ve been paying storage fees since January of ’03, what do you mean I can’t take delivery.”

“Well, it’s part of the account. It’s called a pool account. And, you don’t take delivery, you just participate in the appreciation.”

So I immediately sold that 5000 ounces at $18.33 and I had my cell phone in my hand and I immediately purchased 2500 silver eagles at $18.41 and that’s how I reconciled the problem of not being able to take delivery of my physical metal from a brokerage account.

In other words: anyone who has "pool account" exposure may want to reevaluate their options. And, if we may add, anyone who has Comex storage exposure in general (University of Texas wink wink) even for allegedly delivered gold, and when massive amounts of "registered" gold get mysteriously shifted to "eligible" status, may want to be reeeeally careful now that silver is about to take out its all time nominal high.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/four-scary-words-silver-delivery-not-possible

osoab
25th April 2011, 11:06 AM
We covered this last week.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/precious-metals-storage-scam-'sorry-delivery-is-not-possible'/msg215588/#msg215588

So now we all know Bill Cramer of St. Louis has PM's ;D

Spectrism
25th April 2011, 02:24 PM
There will be thousands of screaming mad jokers who think they own silver, but only own a piece of paper that describes silver in a pool account. And when there is no silver to be had anywhere less than a $20 markup over spot, they will not be able to get out of the pool and buy physical with a decent return.

Leveraged silver will have its reckoning. Maybe that is already happening.

Neuro
25th April 2011, 04:20 PM
Farmers learned the concept a long time ago.

You pay the local elevator to store your grain. They go bankrupt. The storage fees continue but the contents of the bin are considered part of the bankruptcy. You cannot get your own commodity out of the warehouse.

This was a costly lesson for many farmers.
Isn't it funny how those that contributed to the income of the elevator through their toil and sweat gets nothing, while those who bankrupted it, ie banks and government, through fees usury and taxes gets everything...