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Serpo
2nd May 2011, 01:44 PM
Photos at these links..........

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110502/pl_yblog_exclusive/the-secret-team-that-killed-bin-laden

http://www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/pictures-u-s-photos-of-the-bin-laden-compound-20110502#photo_2

http://abcnews.go.com/International/slideshow/photos-inside-osama-bin-laden-kill-zone-13508190

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/osama-bin-laden-dead-inside-pakistan-kill-site-13507839

From Ghazi Air Base in Pakistan, the modified MH-60 helicopters made their way to the garrison suburb of Abbottabad, about 30 miles from the center of Islamabad. Aboard were Navy SEALs, flown across the border from Afghanistan, along with tactical signals, intelligence collectors, and navigators using highly classified hyperspectral imagers.

After bursts of fire over 40 minutes, 22 people were killed or captured. One of the dead was Osama bin Laden, done in by a double tap -- boom, boom -- to the left side of his face. His body was aboard the choppers that made the trip back. One had experienced mechanical failure and was destroyed by U.S. forces, military and White House officials tell National Journal.

Were it not for this high-value target, it might have been a routine mission for the specially trained and highly mythologized SEAL Team Six, officially called the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, but known even to the locals at their home base Dam Neck in Virginia as just DevGru.

This HVT was special, and the raids required practice, so they replicated the one-acre compound at Camp Alpha, a segregated section of Bagram Air Base. Trial runs were held in early April.
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(U.S. Military Photos of bin-Laden's hideout)

DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story -- generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That's the code.

How did the helicopters elude the Pakistani air defense network? Did they spoof transponder codes? Were they painted and tricked out with Pakistan Air Force equipment? If so -- and we may never know -- two other JSOC units, the Technical Application Programs Office and the Aviation Technology Evaluation Group, were responsible. These truly are the silent squirrels -- never getting public credit and not caring one whit. Since 9/11, the JSOC units and their task forces have become the U.S. government's most effective and lethal weapon against terrorists and their networks, drawing plenty of unwanted, and occasionally unflattering, attention to themselves in the process.

Click image to see photos of Americans reacting to bin Laden's death


AP Photo/Tina Fineberg

JSOC costs the country more than $1 billion annually. The command has its critics, but it has escaped significant congressional scrutiny and has operated largely with impunity since 9/11. Some of its interrogators and operators were involved in torture and rendition, and the line between its intelligence-gathering activities and the CIA's has been blurred.

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But Sunday's operation provides strong evidence that the CIA and JSOC work well together. Sometimes intelligence needs to be developed rapidly, to get inside the enemy's operational loop. And sometimes it needs to be cultivated, grown as if it were delicate bacteria in a petri dish.

In an interview at CIA headquarters two weeks ago, a senior intelligence official said the two proud groups of American secret warriors had been "deconflicted and basically integrated" -- finally -- 10 years after 9/11. Indeed, according to accounts given to journalists by five senior administration officials Sunday night, the CIA gathered the intelligence that led to bin Laden's location. A memo from CIA Director Leon Panetta sent Sunday night provides some hints of how the information was collected and analyzed. In it, he thanked the National Security Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency for their help. NSA figured out, somehow, that there was no telephone or Internet service in the compound. How it did this without Pakistan's knowledge is a secret. The NGIA makes the military's maps but also develops their pattern recognition software -- no doubt used to help establish, by February of this year, that the CIA could say with "high probability" that bin Laden and his family were living there.

Recently, JSOC built a new Targeting and Analysis Center in Rosslyn, Va. Where the NationalCounterterrorism Center tends to focus on threats to the homeland, TAAC, whose existence was first disclosed by the Associated Press, focuses outward, on active "kinetic" -- or lethal -- counterterrorism-missions abroad. Its creation surprised the NCTC's director, Michael Leiter, who was suspicious about its intent until he visited.

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That the center could be stood up under the nose of some of the nation's most senior intelligence officials without their full knowledge testifies to the power and reach of JSOC, whose size has tripled since 9/11. The command now includes more than 4,000 soldiers and civilians. It has its own intelligence division, which may or may not have been involved in last night's effort, and has gobbled up a number of free-floating Defense Department entities that allowed it to rapidly acquire, test, and field new technologies.

Under a variety of standing orders, JSOC is involved in more than 50 current operations spanning a dozen countries, and its units, supported by so-called "white," or acknowledged, special operations entities like Rangers, Special Forces battalions, SEAL teams, and Air Force special ops units from the larger Special Operations Command, are responsible for most of the "kinetic" action in Afghanistan.

Pentagon officials are conscious of the enormous stress that 10 years of war have placed on the command. JSOC resources are heavily taxed by the operational tempo in Afghanistan and Pakistan, officials have said. The current commander, Vice Adm. William McRaven, and Maj. Gen. Joseph Votel, McRaven's nominated replacement, have been pushing to add people and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance technology to areas outside the war theater where al-Qaida and its affiliates continue to thrive.

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Earlier this year, it seemed that the elite units would face the same budget pressures that the entire military was experiencing. Not anymore. The military found a way, largely by reducing contracting staff and borrowing others from the Special Operations Command, to add 50 positions to JSOC. And Votel wants to add several squadrons to the "Tier One" units -- Delta and the SEALs.

When Gen. Stanley McChrystal became JSOC's commanding general in 2004, he and his intelligence chief, Maj. Gen. Michael Flynn, set about transforming the way the subordinate units analyze and act on intelligence. Insurgents in Iraq were exploiting the slow decision loop that coalition commanders used, and enhanced interrogation techniques were frowned upon after the Abu Ghraib scandal. But the hunger for actionable tactical intelligence on insurgents was palpable.

The way JSOC solved this problem remains a carefully guarded secret, but people familiar with the unit suggest that McChrystal and Flynn introduced hardened commandos to basic criminal forensic techniques and then used highly advanced and still-classified technology to transform bits of information into actionable intelligence. One way they did this was to create forward-deployed fusion cells, where JSOC units were paired with intelligence analysts from the NSA and the NGA. Such analysis helped the CIA to establish, with a high degree of probability, that Osama bin Laden and his family were hiding in that particular compound.

These technicians could "exploit and analyze" data obtained from the battlefield instantly, using their access to the government's various biometric, facial-recognition, and voice-print databases. These cells also used highly advanced surveillance technology and computer-based pattern analysis to layer predictive models of insurgent behavior onto real-time observations.

The military has begun to incorporate these techniques across the services. And Flynn will soon be promoted to a job within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, where he'll be tasked with transforming the way intelligence is gathered, analyzed, and utilized.

ShortJohnSilver
2nd May 2011, 02:13 PM
One way they did this was to create forward-deployed fusion cells

In the USA they are called "fusion centers" and who will they be deployed against?

Serpo
2nd May 2011, 03:43 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382860/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-How-Navy-Seals-killed-Al-Qaeda-chief-near-Islamabad.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382649/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-US-Navy-Seals-kill-terror-chief-near-Islamabad-Paskistan.html

keehah
2nd May 2011, 03:54 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/02/article-1382860-0BDDF0CE00000578-490_470x365.jpg
Celebration: The killing of Bin Laden has been greeted with euphoria in the U.S., left.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382860/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-How-Navy-Seals-killed-Al-Qaeda-chief-near-Islamabad.html#ixzz1LEruvcZB

Son of Dave
2nd May 2011, 03:57 PM
Please tell me that they didn't break over Celebrity Apprentice to announce Osama's killing did they?

ximmy
2nd May 2011, 04:00 PM
wow... they really believe their own lies...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25683.0;attach=740 5;image

Bullion_Bob
2nd May 2011, 04:01 PM
Pretty amazing. Kill a dead guy, toss him in the ocean, and wow....

The flocks come out in full force and start grazing like never before.

Quite a day.

keehah
2nd May 2011, 04:02 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/osama-bin-laden-news-pre-183969

What timing.

Just one night after Donald Trump was skewered by President Obama at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, Trump's Celebrity Apprentice was pre-empted by Obama's announcement that Osama Bin Laden had been killed by U.S. forces.

Obama didn't make his announcement until 11:35 p.m. ET on Sunday, but the broadcast networks -- including NBC, home of Celebrity Apprentice -- interrupted their regularly scheduled programming at least an hour before to report the news.

Speaking of that reaction shot in the board room, this is what they should be paying attention to:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2372/2362352537_a2231ac355.jpg

And what they were paying attention to in that scene of the movie that picture above captures.

I've been posting for years now as I see like events unfold on topics and ways well scripted in this movie (http://ihateus.blogspot.com/2008/03/whats-southland-tales-about.html).
And of course the patsy being shot in the left eye was in the movie as well. :(

Perhaps he can stop the distractions of these harlot issues and save us from the earthquakes and radiation coming in off the Pacific!
(movie musical scene)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7E9YsG58xp0/TZ4Padgj4gI/AAAAAAAAKGk/ztHn0IexjAA/s1600/a+b.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyQyLsdEABs
Osama's hideout was the ice cream truck of course.


The movie uses issues like war, gun control, natural resource, celebrity and election as a backdrop for the story. (It's more like the issues are crammed into 2+ hours) The story doesn't hold anyone's hand and feels like it doesn't want you to know about it, I'm fine with that, but they could've done more when it came to the back story instead of pictures that look nothing like the characters in the movie. (Its just confusing)

I still don't understand the whole thing and interviews with the actors show that they don't ether.

vacuum
2nd May 2011, 04:13 PM
wow... they really believe their own lies...

Hillary trying not to laugh?

osoab
2nd May 2011, 05:46 PM
wow... they really believe their own lies...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25683.0;attach=740 5;image


That is their concerned looks for the photo op.

I wonder who directed it? :dunno

Uncle Salty
2nd May 2011, 05:56 PM
wow... they really believe their own lies...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25683.0;attach=740 5;image


That is their concerned looks for the photo op.

I wonder who directed it? :dunno


They must have been showing them charts of the US dollar.

Horn
2nd May 2011, 06:05 PM
wow... they really believe their own lies...


Like a New Motion Picture release, everything must go smoothly when the curtain is pulled back.

Book
2nd May 2011, 06:19 PM
I've been posting for years now as I see like events unfold on topics and ways well scripted in this movie (http://ihateus.blogspot.com/2008/03/whats-southland-tales-about.html).



Watch HERE (http://www.moviesdatacenter.com/Movies/Southland-Tales-2006.html) for free. The Loombo links are usually good.

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osoab
2nd May 2011, 06:21 PM
Rush Limbaugh said he live in a hut and that Architectural Review wouldn't be visiting. :D

Bullion_Bob
2nd May 2011, 06:38 PM
What are the specifics on the "funeral procession"?

Any details on the ship and crew?

007
2nd May 2011, 07:51 PM
What am I missing? They say the compound has 12 ft to 18 ft high walls with barbwire. I see a short section of wall at the house, but are they calling that rickety red fence the "compound wall? lol.

See ABC News photo here:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/slideshow/photos-inside-osama-bin-laden-kill-zone-13508190

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_osama_bin_laden_dm_compound_4_110502_ssh.jpg

And look at that gap at the right end of the red fence in the pic below. Look between the end of the fence and the building to its right. Why you could shove a camel through there. Cut the hoist rope at the top and the whole "compound wall" would fall down. This is a secure location? lol.

See other ABC News photos here:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_osama_bin_laden_dm_compound_3_110502_ssh.jpg

http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_osama_bin_laden_dm_compound_110502_ssh.jpg

I'm not in anyway downplaying the troops but this is a million dollar secure compound?

Dogman
2nd May 2011, 08:11 PM
This maybe the correct location, the image is a few years old, and before
the compound was beefed up.



34°10'9.79"N 73°14'33.13"E

BrewTech
2nd May 2011, 08:20 PM
LOL... Pakistan looks like Hemet. Do a lot of old people live there?

007
3rd May 2011, 04:19 AM
This maybe the correct location, the image is a few years old, and before
the compound was beefed up.
34°10'9.79"N 73°14'33.13"E


That's the problem with all this "information". Nobody dates anything or gives you details. I guess it's too much for the average American ADHD.

Horn
3rd May 2011, 07:06 AM
Good question, that satellite photo in the OP only looks vaguely similar to the 3d model presented with dish-network communications & many out buildings.

Where did the news agency come up with the 3d model? Was it released by the military only hours after the fact?

Horn
3rd May 2011, 07:42 AM
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/05/03/2339919/art_compound5-420x0.jpg

A hiding place as cunning as the fugitive himself

WHO would have guessed? Osama bin Laden ensconced in a mansion in Abbottabad, a pretty town of learning snuggled in an idyllic valley about 1260 metres up in the foothills of the juncture of the Hindu Kush and Himalaya mountains in the northern Hazara region of Pakistan.

For a decade US and Pakistani military and intelligence forces had focused their search for the al-Qaeda leader in the mountainous wastelands of north and south Waziristan, far to the south-west of his real bolt-hole.

In retrospect, the man credited with masterminding the horror of September 11 was not going to think inside the square once he escaped the US dragnet at Tora Bora in Afghanistan in December 2001.

It is not yet known how long bin Laden had been there but the choice of Abbottabad was brilliant. Right outside that square that so focused the minds of intelligence agencies for so long - and under the noses of the officer corps hunting him.

Abbottabad is the antithesis of what bin Laden stands for. It is home to the Pakistan Military Academy at Kakul, which produces the country's corps of powerful military commanders, against whom bin Laden's acolytes have waged brutal war.

The town, which has grown to about 120,000 people in recent years, is also home to many schools and colleges, especially for women - something al-Qaeda and the Taliban are at homicidal odds with.

This regressive mindset must have been overlooked as part of the clever choice of hideout location, but the name Abbottabad must have been galling, the living embodiment of the hated ''infidel''. It remains one of the few Anglo names from the time of the British Raj that have not been changed in Pakistan: the town and district was founded by Major James Abbott in January 1853 after the annexation of the Punjab. Sadly, under president Zia-ul-Haq, an Islamist, Abbottabad's most famous boarding school, Burn Hall, which was run by priests of London's Mill Hill order, was taken over as an army school as part of a policy that drove out most of the missionaries running Pakistan's leading schools.

Abbottabad also holds a little known link with an earlier unpleasant chapter in world history. In pre-satellite days until the late 1950s and early 1960s, British and American spy stations that played key monitoring roles on both the Soviet Union and China were located in the mountains to the north of the then bucolic little town.

No other land station in the world gave the West such a vantage point into both communist nations. Pakistan provided the CIA with other vital bases, including the air base at Peshawar, just over 100 kilometres as the crow flies from Abbottabad, from where Francis Gary Powers took off on his ill-fated U2 spy plane flight when he was shot down by the Russians in 1960.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/a-hiding-place-as-cunning-as-the-fugitive-himself-20110502-1e58q.html#ixzz1LIh9wr39

keehah
3rd May 2011, 02:33 PM
POLL: U.S. views of Obama improve with Bin Laden death (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/POLL+views+Obama+improve+with+Laden+death/4719428/story.html#ixzz1LKMIXLbT)

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/4719473.bin
U.S. President Barack Obama shares a laugh with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates during a meeting of the Cabinet at the White House in Washington, May 3, 2011. REUTERS

Also in today's news: The White House on Tuesday substantially revised its version of Osama bin Laden's death (http://www.canada.com/news/Laden+wasn+armed+when+shot+White+House+says/4719715/story.html#ixzz1LKNDleIn)

JDRock
3rd May 2011, 03:20 PM
...osamas "hideout" :oo-->......try langley virginia :ROFL:

keehah
3rd May 2011, 03:41 PM
This guy is trending on twitter.

Obama's Osama raid was live tweated.

http://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual
Sohaib Athar

Helicopter hovering above Abbottabad at 1AM (is a rare event).
May 1

Go away helicopter - before I take out my giant swatter :-/
1 May

@m0hcin all silent after the blast, but a friend heard it 6 km away too... the helicopter is gone too.
1 May

@m0hcin http://bit.ly/ljB6p6 seems like my giant swatter worked !
1 May

@m0hcin the few people online at this time of the night are saying one of the copters was not Pakistani...
1 May

The abbottabad helicopter/UFO was shot down near the Bilal Town area, and there's report of a flash. People saying it could be a drone.
1 May

Two helicpoters, one down, could actually be the training accident scenario they're saying it was >> http://bit.ly/ioGE6O
1 May

and now I feel I must apologize to the pilot about the swatter tweets :-/
1 May

And now, a plane flying over Abbottabad...
1 May

by ibi2010
1 dead and 1 injured in Abbottabad for heli crashed
1 May


Report from a taxi driver: The army has cordoned off the crash area and is conducting door-to-door search in the surrounding
1 May

Another rumor: two copters that followed the crashed one were foreign Cobras - and got away
1 May

Neuro
3rd May 2011, 04:02 PM
So they are saying that OBL was hiding in Abottabad 30 miles from Islamabad. That is just ridiculous! I passed through this town a few times in the 90's. I don't have any particular memories from it as I just passed through it. But the likelihood of staying hidden and anonymous for a length of time in Pakistan at such a location is impossible.

Hatha Sunahara
4th May 2011, 10:29 AM
I just wonder who the poor guy was that they killed. I seriously doubt that it was OBL. I also doubt they buried him at sea. In fact, I doubt everything in this whole story, it's all bullshit.


Hatha

keehah
4th May 2011, 01:19 PM
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/04/147782.html

Besides recovering four bullet-riddled bodies from the compound, Pakistani security agencies also arrested two women and six children, aged between 2 and 12 years, after American forces flew toward Afghanistan. Some reports suggest 16 people, including women and children, were arrested from the house, most of them Arab nationals....

Security officials said they did not recover any arms and explosives during their detailed search of the compound on Monday and Tuesday. Also, they said, it was a simple house comprising 13 rooms, six on the ground floor and the remaining on the first and second floors.

“There was no bunker or tunnel inside the house and that’s why I don’t understand why the world’s most wanted man would have decided to live here,” a senior official said. 



'Children, aged between 2 and 12 years' young enough to have no idea their dad was actually Osama. ;)

And the diversion that helps one just assume it actually was Osama is 'did US forces shoot him in cold blood or not?' That will be were corporate media will focus coverage.

keehah
4th May 2011, 02:19 PM
A neighbour who rented the house next door to the one attacked to his cousin and was awake during the attack. Much like the tweeting posted above.

A witness (J Khan) account of [Someone's] death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW7OywJlT8o