Can anyone explain to me *exactly* what a common law marriage is?

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Marriage is a contract, and contracts cannot be entered into without consent, correct? So how does "common law marriage" work, where you are marrried after a certain number of years, whether or not you consent?

I don't comprehend it.

[midnight rambler]

It's very simple really. If you have sexual intercourse with someone you're either married (to the one you're having sexual intercourse with) or you're a fornicator.

The Church of the Subgenius does allow for 'short duration marriages' if you're into that sort of thing.

[7th trump]

Marriage is a contract, and contracts cannot be entered into without consent, correct? So how does "common law marriage" work, where you are marrried after a certain number of years, whether or not you consent?

I don't comprehend it.

The common law marriage gets its roots from the Bible.
Its where a man takes off his cloak and puts it over the woman and vows are spoken.
The Bible also says a man can write up a divorce. God Himself is a divorcee!!!

Today its a marriage that doesnt involve the state (no asking permission from the state to get married and getting a marriage license to do so.)
Being US citizens you are under the laws of the government you consented to. After a duration the courts look at this as a marriage that they have a say so in.

[midnight rambler]

http://www.subgenius.com/marriage.html

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Okay, I'm appreciative of the answer, but we already have two different definitions here.



7th Trump, from what I've read, an individual can be entered into a common law marriage even if he refuses to speak vows, simply by cohabitating. How can he be entered into a contract w/o any consent?

I get that the original form of marriage takes place in the heart, and is signified by vows. But what if no vows are exchanged? How does the common law still see fit to marry those people?

From what I understand, many who did not want to be married were forced into it by "common law marriage"

[Son-of-Liberty]

You can sort of split up common law marriage into two groups. Common law as most would define it where a man lives with a woman for a certain period of time. Or a common law marriage could be a private marriage contract between man and wife without involving the government and their license as a third party. I would much prefer the private contract myself.

[Publico Pro Se]

The couple needs to hold themselves out to the community as a married couple such as telling neighbors, applying for electric, etc., as a married couple to establish a marriage contact. There is a period of time which the happy couple has to live together as man and wife to make a legal common law marriage. So checking in as man and wife with your hot young secretary into the Hilton Hot Sex Hotel for a "Do Not Disturb" weekend doesn't make a happy common law married couple. Not all states recognize common law marriage having phase them out (Illinois ended recognition of common law marriages entered into after 1905 iirc.)

[chad]

Marriage is a contract, and contracts cannot be entered into without consent, correct? So how does "common law marriage" work, where you are marrried after a certain number of years, whether or not you consent?

I don't comprehend it.

The common law marriage gets its roots from the Bible.
Its where a man takes off his cloak and puts it over the woman and vows are spoken.
The Bible also says a man can write up a divorce. God Himself is a divorcee!!!

Today its a marriage that doesnt involve the state (no asking permission from the state to get married and getting a marriage license to do so.)
Being US citizens you are under the laws of the government you consented to. After a duration the courts look at this as a marriage that they have a say so in.


god's been divorced? from whom?

[Ponce]

I like it more the Arab way, he looks at the woman and says "I divorce thee, I divorce thee, I divorce thee" and they are divorce......and to hell with the law of man or God.

[osoab]

Marriage is a contract, and contracts cannot be entered into without consent, correct? So how does "common law marriage" work, where you are marrried after a certain number of years, whether or not you consent?

I don't comprehend it.

The common law marriage gets its roots from the Bible.
Its where a man takes off his cloak and puts it over the woman and vows are spoken.
The Bible also says a man can write up a divorce. God Himself is a divorcee!!!

Today its a marriage that doesnt involve the state (no asking permission from the state to get married and getting a marriage license to do so.)
Being US citizens you are under the laws of the government you consented to. After a duration the courts look at this as a marriage that they have a say so in.


god's been divorced? from whom?


I would guess he divorced himself of the Earth quite a long time ago.

[ShortJohnSilver]

god's been divorced? from whom?


The real and true Jews who rejected him and chose to follow Satan instead. I think.

[Awoke]

There have been cases in Canada where a man and woman who are NOT married, but were a "long-time" couple, broke up and the woman took the man to court based on Common Law marriage and won!

I think that in it depends on if you are carrying out your government interactions as a married couple, such as taxes, etc. I recall hearing one story like what I described above, and the guy went to court after the breakup and said "I never married her, and never said I was going to marry her" but the court still "deemed" that he had conducted himself as a commonlaw married man, and therefore the woman got half of everything he owned, etc.
In that case, he was most definately "forced into a contract". Totally against his will, to boot.

I don't know the encompassing legalities of Commonlaw marriage, but it's dangerous ground when a government can forcefully deem you married because you are co-habitating with someone.

Haha! Watch out! With all the "pro-gay" movements going on these (satanic) days, you might be deemed to be commonlaw with your same-sex roommate in college! Thanks Big Guv!

[Book]

I get that the original form of marriage takes place in the heart, and is signified by vows. But what if no vows are exchanged? How does the common law still see fit to marry those people?

From what I understand, many who did not want to be married were forced into it by "common law marriage"



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[7th trump]

Marriage is a contract, and contracts cannot be entered into without consent, correct? So how does "common law marriage" work, where you are marrried after a certain number of years, whether or not you consent?

I don't comprehend it.

The common law marriage gets its roots from the Bible.
Its where a man takes off his cloak and puts it over the woman and vows are spoken.
The Bible also says a man can write up a divorce. God Himself is a divorcee!!!

Today its a marriage that doesnt involve the state (no asking permission from the state to get married and getting a marriage license to do so.)
Being US citizens you are under the laws of the government you consented to. After a duration the courts look at this as a marriage that they have a say so in.


god's been divorced? from whom?


I would guess he divorced himself of the Earth quite a long time ago.

He divorced Himself from His chosen people, the Isrealites.
This is why theres a marriage coming when the real Christ returns.

[Ponce]

Uffffffffffff Book, now I will have nightmare after looking at that picture, I allways face the other way when I see one of those.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Nocturnal, here, this might help you grasp the concept:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law_marriage

It's what people do outside of a religious, or legal context. The law in most countries recognize this natural state of affairs, although many religions don't. ("Fornicator" is one religious epithet of damnation)

I have never understood the concept of a 'marriage license' granted by the state. How can the state give you a license to exercise a natural right?


Hatha

[Son-of-Liberty]

I have never understood the concept of a 'marriage license' granted by the state. How can the state give you a license to exercise a natural right?


Hatha


They can but you don't have to get a license, you can still marry privately if you want it is just that nobody ever tells you that.

[Glass]

There have been cases in Canada where a man and woman who are NOT married, but were a "long-time" couple, broke up and the woman took the man to court based on Common Law marriage and won!

I think that in it depends on if you are carrying out your government interactions as a married couple, such as taxes, etc. I recall hearing one story like what I described above, and the guy went to court after the breakup and said "I never married her, and never said I was going to marry her" but the court still "deemed" that he had conducted himself as a commonlaw married man, and therefore the woman got half of everything he owned, etc.
In that case, he was most definately "forced into a contract". Totally against his will, to boot.



This is the case in Australia as well. If the couple co-habitate for 6 months they are considered married under common law. According to case law here, Family Law courts in Australia have no enforcement capability unless the male enters into an "agreement" with the court. Civil marriage or Common law. Agreements have greater force in equity than all other undertakings including contracts.

[Bullion_Bob]

Uffffffffffff Book, now I will have nightmare after looking at that picture, I allways face the other way when I see one of those.


Ponce here's a nice Cuban girl to help with your nightmares. According to yahoo she's a hot blonde. ;D

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[Glass]

Agreements have greater force in equity than all other undertakings including contracts.

"In Law" means verbal. There are contracts and then there are quasi-contracts. Your behavior (even silence) is accepted as a quasi-contract. Elsewhere on the net these are referred to as secret contracts but they have been around and in use for several hundred years if not more.

As to marriage: Consensus non concubitus facit nuptiam. Consent, not lying together, constitutes marriage.


palani. Have you got a blog or have you considered starting a thread where you can thrash out these concepts. You bring some excellent info on the various type of law and the principles etc. I'm very interested in this area and keeping track of your input is pretty tough.

do you participate on another forum that is more focused/organised for that kind of material?

[sirgonzo420]

Marriage is a contract, and contracts cannot be entered into without consent, correct? So how does "common law marriage" work, where you are marrried after a certain number of years, whether or not you consent?

I don't comprehend it.

The common law marriage gets its roots from the Bible.
Its where a man takes off his cloak and puts it over the woman and vows are spoken.
The Bible also says a man can write up a divorce. God Himself is a divorcee!!!

Today its a marriage that doesnt involve the state (no asking permission from the state to get married and getting a marriage license to do so.)
Being US citizens you are under the laws of the government you consented to. After a duration the courts look at this as a marriage that they have a say so in.


god's been divorced? from whom?


"Israel"

[Twisted Titan]

Common Law my @$$

If you didnt ask for a marriage liscene Then the state has ZERO abilty to enforce or take anything.

That ( Common Law) fellow screwed the pooch when he thought he could show up to to court to "explain" his version of the events.

By him stepping foot in a court he vaildated her claim to assets and the courts ability to set terms and conditions etc.

He paid a steep price believing COMMON LAW equates to COMMON SENSE

I hold no such fallicies in my head ........ courts are there for one reason only TO MAKE SURE THEY STAY IN BUSINESS NOT TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM

You would NEVER get me into a marriage court room unless they can show that I was indeed married with a document that I requested the "states guidence" over my personal affairs.

And even then Im still not going .I will be much too busy moving all my wealth into physical assets that are beyond the reach of those rapacious ghouls.

The Best defense is to have nothing to take........or nothing they can find..

T