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Serpo
4th May 2011, 02:17 PM
I guess they had no evidence....... :oo-->


Osama bin Laden’s daughter confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead by the US Special Forces during the first few minutes of the operation .
By MUSHTAQ YUSUFZAI
Special to Al Arabiya

Senior Pakistani security officials said Osama bin Laden’s daughter had confirmed her father was captured alive and shot dead by the US Special Forces during the first few minutes of the operation carried out at the huge compound in Bilal Town, Abbottabad.

Besides recovering four bullet-riddled bodies from the compound, Pakistani security agencies also arrested two women and six children, aged between 2 and 12 years, after American forces flew toward Afghanistan. Some reports suggest 16 people, including women and children, were arrested from the house, most of them Arab nationals.

A Pakistani security source told Al Arabiya that Bin Laden family members had been transported to Rawalpindi, which is near Islamabad. He added, “They are now under treatment in the military hospital of Rawalpindi, where they have been transported in an helicopter.” A source told Al Arabiya that Bin Laden’s wife had been injured either in her leg or her shoulder.

He added that the members of the household were children and Bin Laden’s wife, in addition to a Yemeni woman. He added that the woman might be the personal doctor of the family. Bin Laden was known to be afflicted with renal failure. He had reportedly received treatment in Hyderabad, India, before the 9/11 attacks.

Sources speculated that US Forces could not arrest these family members because there weren’t enough places for them in the helicopter, after they lost another chopper during the operation.

About the slain woman: officials said she could either be Bin Laden’s wife or a close family member since she offered to sacrifice her life for him. “As per our information, she shielded Bin Laden during the operation and was killed by American commandos,” an official said.
The US Special Forces only took two bodies with them in the military chopper; one is said to be Bin Laden’s and the other his son’s. By the time Pakistani security agencies and soldiers arrived at the spot, the US commandos were flying over the mountains in the Pakistani tribal belt, well on their way to Afghanistan.

Sources said one of the two women taken into custody from the compound by Pakistani forces was one of Osama bin Laden’s several wives.

“She is Yemeni and became unconscious during the operation,” said an official. Pleading anonymity, he said the woman was provided necessary medical aid till she became conscious.

“During preliminary investigations, the lady said they moved to the Abbottabad house five to six months ago,” the Pakistani official said, adding that she did not provide further information about bin Laden or his shifting to the house.

The official said a 12-year-old daughter of bin Laden was among the six children rescued from the three-storey compound.

The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members.

According to sources, Bin Laden was staying on the ground floor of the house and was dragged on the floor to the helicopter after being shot dead by US commandos.

There were conflicting reports about the second person the US forces took along with them. Some Pakistani officials say it was one of Bin Laden’s sons injured by the US commandos and thrown onto a separate military chopper; others say he was killed in the operation and it was only his dead body that they took along.

The officials say not all children rescued from the house belonged to the al-Qaeda leader. All were being kept at a safe place. The US has not been given access to the detained women and children, the officials claimed. About the second woman, many officials feel she could be a close relative of Osama or his servant.

Similarly, according to information Pakistani officials collected from detained persons, Osama was neither armed nor did inmates at the compound fire at the US choppers or commandos.

“Not a single bullet was fired from the compound at the US forces and their choppers. Their chopper developed some technical fault and crashed and the wreckage was left on the spot,” a well-informed official explained.

Meanwhile, Pakistani security forces maintained a cordon around the compound and its surrounding areas and did not allow the media access to the area until the remaining wreckage of the US military chopper was removed. Some media were given access to the spot but no one was allowed to enter the compound.

The Pakistan Army has sealed two main entrances of the house and deployed military and police for its protection.

A sizeable number of national and international journalists have arrived in Abbottabad to cover the extraordinary story. Before opening the area to the media, Pakistani soldiers shifted two buffaloes, a cow and around 150 hens from the compound to an unknown location.

Security officials said they did not recover any arms and explosives during their detailed search of the compound on Monday and Tuesday. Also, they said, it was a simple house comprising 13 rooms, six on the ground floor and the remaining on the first and second floors.

“There was no bunker or tunnel inside the house and that’s why I don’t understand why the world’s most wanted man would have decided to live here,” a senior official said.

He said two brothers, Arshad Khan and Tariq Khan, owned the house. Both belonged to Tangi area in Charsadda district. Officials said they had no information about the two brothers and their business.

According to a neighbor, the dwellers of the compound never mixed with anyone.

“It was a very reserved family and never attended any wedding or funeral ceremony in the area,” said Qari Mastana Khan of Bilal Town. “But they were kindhearted and would provide clean drinking water and food to poor neighbors. During the holy month of Ramadan, they invited us for Iftar dinner at their house and served us delicious food. Arshad Khan had three kids and his brother Tariq four,” Khan added.

Another interesting aspect, which the residents shared about the house and its inmates, was the strict behavior of the family, who in the last six years, had never allowed women of the neighborhood to enter their house or permitted their own ladies to visit neighbors. Also, children playing in the streets and nearby fields were never allowed into the compound, not even when their balls inadvertently went across.

“Usually, when their ball falls past the wall of a house, the children just go there and pick it up but they were never allowed into this particular house. Whenever their ball fell there and the children went to retrieve it, whoever opened the door gave them money to buy a new ball instead of allowing them to enter and search for their ball,” said an elder of the area, Mohammad Fayaz.

He said all these details made him suspicious but were not enough to make him believe the world’s most wanted man was hiding in his neighborhood.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/04/147782.html

keehah
4th May 2011, 02:26 PM
We posted this link at the same time.

Bin Laden's daughter? I say Bullshit or at least ask for some shred of 'proof'.


The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members.

Her father. Do you think her father told his young daughters he was the Osama bin Laden?

The paper wants you to assume its Osama's family. It may be true (or not). Perhaps she is even Osama's biological daughter but was raised by another man as her father since 2002. The paper assumes it was the actual Osama with no other evidence that 'a source said'.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3562677/Hero-dog-helped-snare-Osama.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

nunaem
4th May 2011, 02:30 PM
I could understand why they wouldn't want him alive. The sheeple finding out that he wasn't wanted for or accused of perpetrating 9/11 would be a wake-up call.

Ponce
4th May 2011, 03:03 PM
The same was done with "El Che" in Bolivia......he was captured alive and then shot by captain who was a member of the Special Forces and then the body taken by helicopter and thrown in the jungle, they didn't want his body to become a martyr.......as per Oama.

Book
4th May 2011, 03:12 PM
Bin Laden's daughter? I say Bullshit or at least ask for some shred of 'proof'.



Yeah...we're not gonna fall for another Hologram Girl (http://us.aving.net/news/view.php?articleId=138447) posing as Osama's real daughter!

:D how crazy they think we are?

Hatha Sunahara
4th May 2011, 04:22 PM
OBL has been dead for almost 10 years now. This was a manufactured staged event. Theater. All the actors are paid to play their roles. It is in TPTB interest now for everybody to believe that OBL is dead. This claim by a person that she is OBL's daughter is just to add more 'credibility' to the story in the script. How do we know that any of the actors in this drama are legitimate? How do we know that anybody we see on the TeeVee isn't a paid actor delivering a script? Or a useful idiot? This is all classic smoke and mirrors. Here's the official story. Now you get to figure out what really happened. We'll give you all the facts you need to piece together the official story in your mind. And then we'll repeat it to you over and over again. Everything I have gathered so far about this story tells me that it's all 'make believe'--that no such thing happened. For all we know this may just be a recruiting poster for 'assassination teams'.

I have to give our leaders credit. They are really smart for dreaming this up. Most of the population of the world will drink it all up. It's a story about the insane leading the stupid. I've developed a reflexive disbelief of any government story delivered by politicians through the mainstream media. Whatever they tell me just cannot be the truth. I know these people. Congenital mass liars. Paid to deliver a script. To act out a drama. To mislead me and everyone else. The lies are getting increasingly fantastic. And independent sources of information, despite the internet are shrinking--not growing. Just think about it--everything you get in this story comes from the people who are in the chain of command for this assassination operation. Is there any independent way to verify what they are telling us is true? We just have to take their word for it. And this is how they shape our reality. They just need a few people to believe them because they own the media--and that is all you will see in the media--the people who believe this bullshit.

Hatha

Hatha Sunahara
4th May 2011, 05:56 PM
Here is a link to a guy who mirrors my sentiments about this bin Goldstein story:

http://www.kirwanesque.com/politics/articles/2011/art117.htm

As Mark Twain observed--A lie will get half way around the world before the truth has a chance to get it's boots on.


Hatha

Serpo
4th May 2011, 06:02 PM
Here is a link to a guy who mirrors my sentiments about this bin Goldstein story:

http://www.kirwanesque.com/politics/articles/2011/art117.htm

As Mark Twain observed--A lie will get half way around the world before the truth has a chance to get it's boots on.


Hatha


I agree with everything you are saying and thanks for the link.....so many lies.....how do these people keep a straight face .
The lies have become so thick now that they are becoming reality and so they must be true.....

keehah
4th May 2011, 10:35 PM
The lies are so thick they effect a force to displace reality even in those who see.

Regardless, at least the led are now allowed to think like most of the more aware do in one small way. That Osama is dead.

Ponce
4th May 2011, 10:44 PM
Does anyone knows what he did against the US....I mean, for sure.

Serpo
4th May 2011, 11:01 PM
From live leak.......

OSAMA BIN LADEN - DEAD OR ALIVE?


Hello world! This is my first post but it is utmost important so please continue reading!
I have spent a great deal of time watching the newsreports from the papers around the world concerning Bin Ladens death and I've watched all the pressconferences from the White House and what strikes me as very very strange is that I haven't seen or heard one journalist asking the utmost important question to the spokesperson at the White House that I would have asked if I had been there and that is: "If the photos of Bin Laden soaked in blood with a bullet through his head and a bullet through his chest is to gruesome to show the world, then why don't you show the photo of Bin Laden washed clean and prepared for burial according to muslim traditions with no blood placed on a white linen?"
And if the bullethole through his head was to graphically violent so why don't just take a piece of cloth and cover the hole? Did navy seals use so heavy artillery that the face was unrecognisable? I doubt that. I think that would be a very smart and tactic move from the american government to show images presented in the way I described so that Taliban could see that their source of inspiration was in fact dead. And I also suggest that the White House could release photos from the burial cause I am 100% certain that they took lots of pictures of that too.
Maybe they have video-taped it too? The Obama administration promised that they would show proof that Osama Bin Laden was killed because they wanted Taliban and Al Quaida to really understand that their leader and inspiration had been killed. The White House has according to Reuters released pictures of three dead men that were in the house Osama Bin Laden was hiding and I think to myself after seeing the photos: "Could the photos of Osama Bin Laden be more gruesome than these photos?" I doubt that. Norwegian newspapers will not show the photos that Reuters has released because we have children that reads the newspapers, but the paradox is that we have computergames that shows more gore and violence than the photos of the three dead men... We have recently heard that Bin Ladens daughter has said that her father was taken down to the first floor and executed in front of her eyes. How about taking this girl to a lie detector test. I doubt that this little girl knows how to cheat a lie detector like us grown ups know how to. I think that it would be a smart move from the american government to transfer live this lie detector-test so that we don't get more speculations around this question: "Was Osama Bin Laden executed by the Navy Seals or was he shot because he resisted arrest?" I also find that strange that they said Osama was unarmed, but he resisted arrest so much that they had to shoot him in the head? They shot his wife in the leg even though she was armed and that's why I find it a bit strange that they shoot Bin Laden in the head instead of in the leg. Let's go over to my headline and my post here is not made cause I wanted to start any conspiracytheory, cause I know they will come anyhow and I don't like conspiracytheories cause they lack so much evidence.. The assault against the Bin Laden-compound was very well planned and the Obama-administration must have known that the world was gonna demand photos of a dead Bin Laden. I have now given my solution to satisfy this demand: Release photos of Bin Laden free of all the blood dead in a white blanket and release at least one photo or two of the burial at sea cause one thing is 100% certain and that is that such photos exist.
Osama Bin Laden is dead there is no doubt about that, just ask Osamas daughter, she has told it to the press that the americans killed her father. How could she say that if she hasn't seen her dead fathers body? Just like I said earlier: Let her take the lie detector-test and broadcast the whole seance live at f.ex CNN or another big tv-channel. Then Taliban and Al Quaida and the rest of the world can be convinced that Osama Bin Laden is dead. Feel free to comment my post, but please don't critisise my English, cause I'm norwegian! And please keep the comments at an adult an intelligent level! If you ask about my opinion about if it was right to kill Osama Bin Laden or not, I will say that it says in the holy scripture, the Bible: "A man who reach for his sword shall die by his sword". Have a wonderful life and all of you who have read this: "Live with passion and ask yourself everyday: "How can I contribute to make this world a better place to live?" Come up with good answers for yourself and start to act upon them and tell everyone you meet in your life to do the same! Greetings from NorwayEinStein :-) Less..http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54b_1304546813

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54b_1304546813

Serpo
4th May 2011, 11:06 PM
Does anyone knows what he did against the US....I mean, for sure.



Dont bring up minor details Ponce............remember this is a war on TERROR..........we dont want facts getting in the way......