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Horn
5th May 2011, 06:18 PM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/566328/centrality_of_mecca/

bellevuebully
6th May 2011, 08:04 AM
Daniel 7:25

Horn
6th May 2011, 08:26 AM
http://www.lightofprophecy.com/web_images/little_horn.jpg

Awoke
6th May 2011, 10:46 AM
This is my second run in with the book of Daniel today...

[quote=Daniel 7, 21 to 25]

[21] I beheld, and lo, that horn made war against the saints, and prevailed over them, [22] Till the Ancient of days came and gave judgment to the saints of the most High, and the time came, and the saints obtained the kingdom. [23] And thus he said: The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be greater than all the kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. [24] And the ten horns of the same kingdom, shall be ten kings: and another shall rise up after them, and he shall be mightier than the former, and he shall bring down three kings. [25] And he shall speak words against the High One, and shall crush the saints of the most High: and he shall think himself able to change times and laws, and they shall be delivered into his hand until a time, and times, and half a time.

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TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th May 2011, 12:53 PM
Middle eastern logic: I am wearing a suit and making convincing hand gestures, therefore your argument is invalid.

Horn
6th May 2011, 01:10 PM
http://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/mecca_clock_2.jpg

Giant Mecca clock seeks to call time on Greenwich

11 Aug 2010

For more than a century, a point on the top of a hill in south-east London has been recognised as the centre of world time and the official starting point of each new day.

But now the supremacy of Greenwich Mean Time is being challenged by a gargantuan new clock being built in Mecca, by which the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims could soon be setting their watches.

Due to start ticking on Thursday as the faithful begin fasting during the month of Ramadan, the timepiece sits atop the Royal Mecca Clock Tower which dominates Islam’s holiest city.

It is at the heart of a vast complex funded by the Saudi government that will also house hotels, shopping malls and conference halls.

Bearing a striking resemblance to both St Stephen’s Tower, which houses the bell of Big Ben, and the Empire State Building, the Saudi upstart aims to outdo its revered British rival in every way.

The clock’s four faces are 151ft in diameter and will be illuminated by 2million LED lights along with huge Arabic script reading: “In the name of Allah”. The clock will run on Arabia Standard Time which is three hours ahead of GMT.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/7937123/Giant-Mecca-clock-seeks-to-call-time-on-Greenwich.html

bellevuebully
6th May 2011, 01:17 PM
Did you know that Islam uses the Islamic Calendar rather than the Gregorian? I believe it is 1431 A.H. currently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_New_Year

edit.....grade 5 punctuation

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th May 2011, 01:42 PM
Eastern and Western Christian churches are 14 days apart...The old joke is that the eastern church is "two weeks behind" the rest of the world.

bellevuebully
6th May 2011, 01:44 PM
Eastern and Western Christian churches are 14 days apart...The old joke is that the eastern church is "two weeks behind" the rest fo the world.


I heard that Islamic time is current time minus 1000 years.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th May 2011, 01:46 PM
We need Palani to show up and tell us that the Julian calender is where it's at.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th May 2011, 01:48 PM
http://www.amandinealessandra.com/research/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/time.jpg

bellevuebully
6th May 2011, 01:50 PM
http://www.amandinealessandra.com/research/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/time.jpg


Impressive.....no spelling errors.

Awoke
6th May 2011, 02:10 PM
No apostrophe.

Horn
6th May 2011, 02:23 PM
Guess that was their defense?

Looks like a prison it was written on... :)

bellevuebully
6th May 2011, 02:24 PM
No apostrophe.


That's punctuation smart ass.

illumin19
6th May 2011, 08:04 PM
Haven't been there yet, God willing one day.
Some info below I scraped together.......


There are 2 names for the city of Makkah mentioned in the Qur'an; Makkah مَكّه, and Bakkah بكّه.

So where does the word Bakkah come from?

It comes from the word بكك – Bakk – a meaning of Crowdedness/Overcrowding etc.


And when We settled for Abraham the place of the House: 'Thou shall not associate with Me anything. And do thou purify My House for those that shall go about it and those that stand, for those that bow and prostrate themselves;and proclaim among men the Pilgrimage, and they shall come unto thee on foot and upon every lean beast, they shall come from every deep ravine <<<<<MashAllah (God willed it) 8)