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lapis
11th May 2011, 08:20 PM
A great article from Veterans Today (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/11/jb-campbell-behind-the-holocaust/).

What was Hitler’s unforgivable sin? He resisted Judaism. When you’re a little kid in school or at the movies, resisting Judaism can be made to seem a very wicked thing. As an adult, you can be made to think that to resist Judaism is the very worst, the most dangerous thing. When you see what has happened to people who have resisted Judaism, well – you certainly don’t want that to happen to you.

Adolf Hitler was, is and will always be the most dangerous character in history due to his resistance against Judaism, combined with his eloquence in explaining why Judaism must be resisted. Some of us Jew-fighters have a personal motto, delenda est judaica, or Judaism must be destroyed. Or, Defense Against Jewish Aggression. When we have studied the history of whatever period you care to name, or just looked at the news, true humans react with the natural urge to remove this cancer from society. The most astonishing example of the Jewish mentality was last year’s murderous assault against the humanitarians attempting to bring food, medicine and building materials to the people of Gaza. Jewish ways are repellant to the human mind and are not examined overmuch for that reason.

Judaism can be simply described as very bad behavior.

Hitler never attempted to destroy Judaism but rather to isolate it and perhaps remove its adherents from Europe. This followed attempts to train Jews to be productive human beings in places such as Dachau and Theresienstadt. As Evelyn Kaye writes in The Hole in the Sheet, orthodox Jews do not work. They are allergic to work, preferring instead to occupy themselves by reading the Talmud and arguing endlessly with other Jews about what they read. So this is a big problem with Jews, their refusal to work and produce something that is not based on ripping off and confounding their victims.

Hitler’s attempt to re-train Jews, which didn’t work, and then to remove Jews from Europe was a work in progress. Since the Khazars had infiltrated Europe from the east, his plan for relocation was to put them back in the Pale whence they came. This scheme depended upon the success of Operation Barbarossa, the great assault against the Soviet Union which was always the ultimate and stated objective of the National Socialists. Communism had to be destroyed so that Judaism could be re-confined to its traditional home in the Pale of Settlement. Hitler’s basic plan for Jews was somehow to confine and isolate them in a place in which they could be prevented from doing humanity more harm. This is a very difficult thing to do because there are so many aspects to Judaism, the most dangerous of which is banking, which is the main point of this piece.

Because now I’m seeing that the main purpose of keeping alive the Holocaust is to protect Jewish banking practices.

Before we get to that, let’s examine the Holocaust briefly. It’s a big subject but the whole subject is demolished by the videotaped visit to Auschwitz by a young American Jew named David Cole, which took place back in 1992. For example, a dozen years ago I was visited by a reporter named Dave Hendrix from the Dallas Morning News. He was interviewing me for a big story he was writing on the militia and the general resistance movement in America. He would spend four days interviewing me at my home in Carmel, California. When we were first introduced, no doubt knowing my attitude, he made a disclosure: “I must tell you before we begin, that I am a believer in the Holocaust.” I immediately responded, “Not a problem.” And nothing more was said about it for a day or so. On the second day, before he retired to his hotel, I asked if he would be willing to look at a film? He agreed. I showed him David Cole’s visit to Auschwitz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=54aJHSXF1YQ

and when it was over said, “Well, there’s another viewpoint.” Dave, however, was speechless. He finally said, “That was devastating to everything I’ve ever believed.”

By the fourth day, I had persuaded Dave to drop the militia/resistance project and instead write a big piece on Oklahoma City, since my good friend Cheri Seymour had so much primary information on the subject in her files. Reluctant at first to attack that subject, he eventually requested and got the green light from Dallas. This nearly got him killed. Dave met with Cheri and me a week or so later in Hermosa Beach and received his first load of documents from Cheri. He went back to his apartment and was felled by a severe heart attack. His wife was fortunately and unusually at home and got the EMT people there in time to save him, which he would not have been able to do for himself. When he finally recovered, the OKC story was canceled and Dave was made a story editor, never again to investigate and write as he had been doing for many years. When we met again, he said simply, “They got me. It was not a natural heart attack.”

As you will see in the Cole video, the holy gas chamber is a fake. Which makes the entire Holocaust story a fake. You can study it for a day or for a lifetime and your conclusion will be the same. There was never a plan for exterminating Jews and there was never an instrument. As Professor Robert Faurisson has asked for years, “Show me a gas chamber. Draw for me a gas chamber.” It can’t be done because there was never such a thing.

There is the matter of the Six Million. As we in the anti-Jewish movement well know, the Jews were claiming years before, during and after the First World War that six million Jews had been exterminated by the Germans. Of course, no one took this seriously. By 1943, American Jews were once again claiming that six million Jews were in danger of annihilation or had in fact been annihilated, years before the same wild claim would start up again around 1960. Now, why is this?
We now know that the insane Jewish liars are guided in this by a mystical attachment to the number six, as seen with their national symbol, the six-pointed star. Six, or six hundred, or six thousand, or six hundred thousand, or six million Jews must be removed before the messiah returns or Israel reappears or whatever. It’s not important to us, just that this is a magic number to them. And they should be wholly burnt in ovens. Hence, Holocaust (wholly burnt).

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Jews-History&ScripturalOriginOfThe6MillionNumber.html

The six million Jews exterminated by the Nazis depended in large part (66%) on Auschwitz, where four million of them were infamously done to death. Thanks to Ernst Zundel and the International Red Cross, Mikhail Gorbachev in 1989 released to the Red Cross the captured death records from Auschwitz. The forty-six volumes cover the period of 1941 to ’43 and record about 69,000 deaths, mainly from disease or natural causes. The IRC had investigated all the German and Polish camps during and after the war and estimated about 200,000 deaths, some of them Jewish. When the US Army liberated Dachau, for example, of the 32,000 inmates, about 1,200 were Jews. Jewish representation was so tiny during WWII as to be insignificant, except in their minds. In their minds, the 60 million actual deaths of real people were insignificant, not worthy of consideration.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p265_Weber.html

We can read and read and the more we read the bigger the swindle is revealed. That’s why the main thing is to watch David Cole’s video and not get too wrapped up in the Holocaust, one way or the other. But we should understand the real purpose of Holocaust indoctrination, which I now believe is this: our money.

Our money is our lifeblood. Without money, of course, we die as individuals. Without a proper money system, society dies, which is pretty much what is happening to our society now. This is due to the Jewish money system imposed on us by the aliens who own the private money-making company they call the Federal Reserve System.

We are today witnessing the dangers of precious metals. The only metals that are precious to me are steel, lead and brass. Gold and silver, while intoxicating in their wonderfulness, are just as dangerous and volatile as liquid intoxicants and just as likely to make you lose your wits – and your fortune. There is nothing righteous or magical or even necessary about a nation’s currency being “backed” by gold or silver. This was proved by Adolf Hitler during the 1930s. It was proved so conclusively that the Jews want to make sure that it’s never tried again. The best way to ensure this is to associate debt-free currency with mass murder!

For some reason, the Jews of the world wanted to destroy Germany. We can probably never understand their insane drive to do this but the facts cannot be denied. They also wanted to destroy the Russian ruling class and the Russian people, as we saw happen following their takeover of Russia in 1917. And we see that they apparently wanted to destroy the American people from an early time, dating at least since 1913. The destruction of the Russians, Germans and Europeans in general depended on their takeover of the American banking system in 1913, because it was followed closely by the totalitarian devastation that began in 1914 with the assassination of the Austrian archduke by Gavrilo Princip.

World War I ended in 1918 and this began Germany’s great misery. They were blamed by the victors for starting the war and were forced to pay “reparations” that became so extreme by the early 1920s that their money became worthless. Hundreds of thousands of Germans starved to death because of the money and because of a blockade by England and America to prevent food from getting in. A food convoy was organized by Henry Ford, Herbert Hoover and Norway’s Vidkun Quisling to rescue the starving people of Germany and others in Europe. Quisling’s name has been turned into a dirty word by the Jews and is misused today by people who should know better. He was a great humanitarian and took Germany’s side against the forces of Judaism and Bolshevism for over twenty years.

Adolf Hitler, like Franklin Roosevelt, came to power democratically in January, 1933, in the depths of the world depression. Both Germany and America were starving because of the actions of the Federal Reserve System, now twenty years old. They were starving because the Fed had “deflated” the money supply, withdrew currency from circulation and refused to issue new currency. Credit to farmers and businesses and individuals was denied for no particular reason. Roosevelt outlawed gold and began its confiscation in April, with punishment of ten years in prison and ten thousand dollars in fines. Once he got all of our gold, which was then priced at about twenty dollars an ounce, he raised the price to thirty-two dollars. That made it the biggest, boldest swindle up until that time. Of course, the Federal Reserve System swindlers got the gold – and the massive increase in value.

Hitler came to power over a bankrupt and starving country with unemployment at roughly 50%! The Americans had stolen all Germany’s gold by the early ‘20s, so there was no basis for a monetary system other than to keep borrowing from the Jewish crooks on Wall Street that had given Germany the Young Plan and the Dawes Plan of perpetual indebtedness to private bankers masquerading as the “central bank.” What to do?

Hitler and Hjalmar Schacht issued debt-free currency based on Lincoln’s debt-free currency. What they did led to the swift regeneration of the German economy and the world’s greatest prosperity of the working class, while the rest of the world stayed mired in the Great Depression being run by the sadistic central bankers. This was the worst possible crime and had to be punished by the most terrible war in human history, including fire-bombings of entire cities and deliberate mass starvations of millions following the war. Our nuclear bombs would have dropped on Germans but they weren’t ready in time, so they were dropped on Germany’s allies who were trying to surrender. Please refer to Theodore Kaufman’s charming little book, Germany Must Perish!, which was the basis of the Morgenthau Plan for Germany, executed mercilessly by Dwight David Eisenhower, which resulted in the starvation deaths of millions of Germans.

Ellen Brown and Bill Still have provided us with debt-free currency plans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h8qLkpA_PSs

that will deliver us from the Federal Reserve racketeers and eliminate our indebtedness to the pinstriped scum-rats in less than one year, based on the Hitler model, which they don’t want to say. John F. Kennedy declared war on the Fed racketeers by issuing four billion dollars in debt-free US Notes in April of his last year on earth. Abraham Lincoln first issued debt-free currency when the bankers whom he’d approached for war loans wanted 34% in interest. He only survived a few days longer than his war for crimes against the bankers.

So let’s understand what’s behind the Holocaust. Why don’t Brown and Still, both monetary geniuses, want to credit Hitler and Schacht with the secret to economic prosperity in the face of total meltdown? Why, because of the Holocaust! The greatest economic miracle in history occurred in Germany under Adolf Hitler, who ignored the central bankers intent on raping the world, seizing real property, through high interest and deflation. The Russians have recently confirmed suspicions that the American legend of the Depression (“As bad as it was – nobody starved.”) is a lie. Russian investigators have revealed that millions of Americans actually died of starvation and exposure during the years 1929 to 1941 but their deaths were written off to natural causes.

As Hitler remarked in his declaration of war following Pearl Harbor, he had delivered Germany from the doubly devastating conditions of the Versailles Treaty and the general world Depression by 1935 while Roosevelt kept mighty America in abject misery with his Federal Reserve starvation policies right to the present time (December, 1941). He stole all the people’s gold and then increased its value by 60%. And he refused to do what Lincoln had done before him and what Kennedy would do after him: he refused to issue debt-free currency and rescue the American people from aggravated poverty, degradation and death by starvation.

How could that be? How could Hitler state such a thing? Because it was true. It was simple and it was true. The secret to general and permanent prosperity is for the government of any country to issue debt-free currency in amounts necessary for commerce and growth. That is what the founders had in mind with Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. We should read that over from time to time. Clause 5 says that the “Congress shall have power To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures.” Clause 6 is even better: “Congress shall have the power To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States.”

You can see where this puts the owners of the counterfeiting company called the Federal Reserve System. The proposed punishment for counterfeiting was execution by hanging.
Anyway, let us recognize the Holocaust for what it is, a device to make the idea of debt-free currency repellant to our minds, because anyone who would do it really just wants to gas the Jews.

lapis
11th May 2011, 08:37 PM
"Ellen Brown and Bill Still have provided us with debt-free currency plans that will deliver us from the Federal Reserve racketeers and eliminate our indebtedness to the pinstriped scum-rats in less than one year, based on the Hitler model, which they don’t want to say."

Actually, she did:

THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX:
HOW A BANKRUPT GERMANY SOLVED ITS INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS (http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/bankrupt-germany.php)

"We were not foolish enough to try to make a currency gold of which we had none, but for every mark that was issued we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done or goods produced. . . .we laugh at the time our national financiers held the view that the value of a currency is regulated by the gold and securities lying in the vaults of a state bank."
- Adolf Hitler, quoted in "Hitler's Monetary System," www.rense.com, citing C. C. Veith, Citadels of Chaos (Meador, 1949)

Guernsey wasn't the only government to solve its infrastructure problems by issuing its own money. (See E. Brown, "Waking Up on a Minnesota Bridge," www.webofdebt.com/articles/infrastructure-crisis.php, August 4, 2007.) A more notorious model is found in post-World War I Germany. When Hitler came to power, the country was completely, hopelessly broke. The Treaty of Versailles had imposed crushing reparations payments on the German people, who were expected to reimburse the costs of the war for all participants — costs totaling three times the value of all the property in the country. Speculation in the German mark had caused it to plummet, precipitating one of the worst runaway inflations in modern times. At its peak, a wheelbarrow full of 100 billion-mark banknotes could not buy a loaf of bread. The national treasury was empty, and huge numbers of homes and farms had been lost to the banks and speculators. People were living in hovels and starving. Nothing quite like it had ever happened before - the total destruction of the national currency, wiping out people's savings, their businesses, and the economy generally. Making matters worse, at the end of the decade global depression hit. Germany had no choice but to succumb to debt slavery to international lenders.

Or so it seemed. Hitler and the National Socialists, who came to power in 1933, thwarted the international banking cartel by issuing their own money. In this they took their cue from Abraham Lincoln, who funded the American Civil War with government-issued paper money called "Greenbacks." Hitler began his national credit program by devising a plan of public works. Projects earmarked for funding included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and construction of new buildings, roads, bridges, canals, and port facilities. The projected cost of the various programs was fixed at one billion units of the national currency. One billion non-inflationary bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury Certificates, were then issued against this cost. Millions of people were put to work on these projects, and the workers were paid with the Treasury Certificates. This government-issued money wasn't backed by gold, but it was backed by something of real value. It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, "for every mark that was issued we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done or goods produced." The workers then spent the Certificates on other goods and services, creating more jobs for more people.

Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved and the country was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries were still out of work and living on welfare. Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, although it was denied foreign credit and was faced with an economic boycott abroad. It did this by using a barter system: equipment and commodities were exchanged directly with other countries, circumventing the international banks. This system of direct exchange occurred without debt and without trade deficits. Germany's economic experiment, like Lincoln's, was short-lived; but it left some lasting monuments to its success, including the famous Autobahn, the world's first extensive superhighway.1

Hjalmar Schacht, who was then head of the German central bank, is quoted in a bit of wit that sums up the German version of the "Greenback" miracle. An American banker had commented, "Dr. Schacht, you should come to America. We've lots of money and that's real banking." Schacht replied, "You should come to Berlin. We don't have money. That's real banking."2

Although Hitler has rightfully gone down in infamy in the history books, he was quite popular with the German people, at least for a time. Stephen Zarlenga suggests in The Lost Science of Money that this was because he temporarily rescued Germany from English economic theory — the theory that money must be borrowed against the gold reserves of a private banking cartel rather than issued outright by the government.3 According to Canadian researcher Dr. Henry Makow, this may have been a chief reason Hitler had to be stopped: he had sidestepped the international bankers and created his own money. Makow quotes from the 1938 interrogation of C. G. Rakovsky, one of the founders of Soviet Bolsevism and a Trotsky intimate, who was tried in show trials in the USSR under Stalin. According to Rakovsky, Hitler had actually been funded by the international bankers, through their agent Hjalmar Schacht, in order to control Stalin, who had usurped power from their agent Trotsky. But Hitler had become an even bigger threat than Stalin when he had taken the bold step of printing his own money. Rakovsky said:

[Hitler] took over for himself the privilege of manufacturing money and not only physical moneys, but also financial ones; he took over the untouched machinery of falsification and put it to work for the benefit of the state . . . . Are you capable of imagining what would have come . . . if it had infected a number of other states . . . . If you can, then imagine its counterrevolutionary functions.4

Economist Henry C K Liu writes of Germany's remarkable transformation:

The Nazis came to power in Germany in 1933, at a time when its economy was in total collapse, with ruinous war-reparation obligations and zero prospects for foreign investment or credit. Yet through an independent monetary policy of sovereign credit and a full-employment public-works program, the Third Reich was able to turn a bankrupt Germany, stripped of overseas colonies it could exploit, into the strongest economy in Europe within four years, even before armament spending began.5

In Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People (1984), Sheldon Emry commented:

Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 and on, accounting for its startling rise from the depression to a world power in 5 years. Germany financed its entire government and war operation from 1935 to 1945 without gold and without debt, and it took the whole Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German power over Europe and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers. Such history of money does not even appear in the textbooks of public (government) schools today.

[b]Another Look at the Weimar Hyperinflation

What does appear in modern textbooks is the disastrous runaway inflation suffered in 1923 by the Weimar Republic (the common name for the republic that governed Germany from 1919 to 1933). The radical devaluation of the German mark is cited as the textbook example of what can go wrong when governments are given the unfettered power to print money. That is what it is cited for; but in the complex world of economics, things are not always as they seem. The Weimar financial crisis began with the impossible reparations payments imposed at the Treaty of Versailles. Schacht, who was currency commissioner for the Republic, complained:

The Treaty of Versailles is a model of ingenious measures for the economic destruction of Germany. . . . [T]he Reich could not find any way of holding its head above the water other than by the inflationary expedient of printing bank notes.

That is what he said at first. But Zarlenga writes that Schacht proceeded in his 1967 book The Magic of Money "to let the cat out of the bag, writing in German, with some truly remarkable admissions that shatter the 'accepted wisdom' the financial community has promulgated on the German hyperinflation."6 Schacht revealed that it was the privately-owned Reichsbank, not the German government, that was pumping new currency into the economy. Like the U.S. Federal Reserve, the Reichsbank was overseen by appointed government officials but was operated for private gain. What drove the wartime inflation into hyperinflation was speculation by foreign investors, who would sell the mark short, betting on its decreasing value. In the manipulative device known as the short sale, speculators borrow something they don't own, sell it, then "cover" by buying it back at the lower price. Speculation in the German mark was made possible because the Reichsbank made massive amounts of currency available for borrowing, marks that were created with accounting entries on the bank's books and lent at a profitable interest. When the Reichsbank could not keep up with the voracious demand for marks, other private banks were allowed to create them out of nothing and lend them at interest as well.7

According to Schacht, then, not only did the government not cause the Weimar hyperinflation, but it was the government that got it under control. The Reichsbank was put under strict government regulation, and prompt corrective measures were taken to eliminate foreign speculation, by eliminating easy access to loans of bank-created money. Hitler then got the country back on its feet with his Treasury Certificates issued Greenback-style by the government.

Schacht actually disapproved of this government fiat money, and wound up getting fired as head of the Reichsbank when he refused to issue it (something that may have saved him at the Nuremberg trials). But he acknowledged in his later memoirs that allowing the government to issue the money it needed had not produced the price inflation predicted by classical economic theory. He surmised that this was because factories were sitting idle and people were unemployed. In this he agreed with John Maynard Keynes: when the resources were available to increase productivity, adding new money to the economy did not increase prices; it increased goods and services. Supply and demand increased together, leaving prices unaffected.

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1 Matt Koehl, "The Good Society?", www.rense.com (January 13, 2005); Stephen Zarlenga, The Lost Science of Money (Valatie, New York: American Monetary Institute, 2002), pages 590-600.

2 John Weitz, Hitler's Banker (Great Britain: Warner Books, 1999).

3 S. Zarlenga, op. cit.

4 Henry Makow, "Hitler Did Not Want War," www.savethemales.com (March 21, 2004).

5 Henry C. K. Liu, "Nazism and the German Economic Miracle," Asia Times (May 24, 2005).

6 Stephen Zarlenga, "Germany's 1923 Hyperinflation: A 'Private' Affair," Barnes Review (July-August 1999); David Kidd, "How Money Is Created in Australia," http://dkd.net/davekidd/politics/money.html (2001).

7 S. Zarlenga, "Germany's 1923 Hyperinflation," op. cit.

Book
11th May 2011, 08:48 PM
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/11/jb-campbell-behind-the-holocaust/

Fun to read the growing Comments following the article at Veterans Today.

:) Thanks Lapis

General of Darkness
11th May 2011, 08:55 PM
TAGGED for later viewing.

nunaem
11th May 2011, 10:13 PM
I'm starting to like this Hitler guy.

steyr_m
11th May 2011, 10:17 PM
I'm surprised you posted this, but looks good on ya , mate.

steyr_m
11th May 2011, 10:19 PM
I'm starting to like this Hitler guy.



The only reason why you (or most people) don't like him is because the winners of wars write the history books. He was fighting against the people we're having trouble with now.

Book
11th May 2011, 10:21 PM
He was fighting against the people we're having trouble with now.



Exactly (http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html).

:)

Antonio
11th May 2011, 10:22 PM
Are those who are seduced into liking Hitler are willing to overlook the fact that he was part-Jewish?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

Book
11th May 2011, 10:32 PM
Are those who are seduced into liking Hitler willing to overlook the fact that he was part-Jewish?



Sure. Aren't you jews?

;D

nunaem
11th May 2011, 11:01 PM
I'm starting to like this Hitler guy.



The only reason why you (or most people) don't like him is because the winners of wars write the history books. He was fighting against the people we're having trouble with now.


The only reason I don't like Hitler more than I do now is that he lost the war.

But back to the main topic... Hitler did not simply wage a revolt against a Jewish banking system, far more importantly he revolted against a rotten Jewish moral system. He understood that western man's morality was the source of his decline, the morality that shames the excellent and exalts the weak. The morality of the leveler and mass-man.

steyr_m
11th May 2011, 11:03 PM
overlook the fact that he was part-Jewish?


I didn't follow the link, but I've looked over that argument before and it's all Chutzpah.

Antonio
11th May 2011, 11:10 PM
Are those who are seduced into liking Hitler willing to overlook the fact that he was part-Jewish?



Sure. Aren't you jews?

;D




I`m surprised that such an astute researcher of all things Jewish would address me as a "Jew". You know well that I am part-Jew, just as Hitler was. Part-Jews are a very special breed and are certainly in a league of their own. 2+2=5 in their case, just look at Hitler...
Goym are simplicity itself, pure Jews are sociopaths in most cases with some notable exceptions but part-Jews are where alchemy begins.
Mistaking a part-Jew for a full-bloodied Jew is at least as grave as mistaking a Jew for a goy or vs versa.
Humanity doesn`t operate in a duality of Jews and goym but rather in a triune system of Jews,goym and those in between.

Book
11th May 2011, 11:13 PM
You know well that I am part-Jew...



Please don't hijack this Hitler thread with your family history. Nobody cares.

:)

Antonio
11th May 2011, 11:19 PM
You know well that I am part-Jew...



Please don't hijack this Hitler thread with your family history. Nobody cares.

:)


No, this was to illustrate that people discussing Hitler here fail Jewology 101.

steyr_m
11th May 2011, 11:46 PM
He was fighting against the people we're having trouble with now.



Exactly (http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html).

:)



*Sigh* I know you get it, but why is it so hard for others to.....

Antonio
11th May 2011, 11:51 PM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1255&bih=602&q=adolf+hitler+founder+of+israel&aq=2m&aqi=g1g-v1g-m1&aql=&oq=hitler+founder

nunaem
11th May 2011, 11:58 PM
He was fighting against the people we're having trouble with now.



Exactly (http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html).

:)



*Sigh* I know you get it, but why is it so hard for others to.....


Most people are conformist, irrelevant followers. This is only a bad thing when the wrong people are leading them.

gunDriller
12th May 2011, 06:33 AM
I'm starting to like this Hitler guy.


all our lives, we are taught that he is the ultimate boogey man.

then we read history for real, and find that he is, among other things, just somebody who resisted the Talmud-worshippers.


if i have one beef with him, it's that he wasn't smarter. invading Poland was stupid, invading France was stupid too. even if Germany had a border dispute with Poland, Hitler should have been smart enough to realize that he ought not to provide a provocation for war.

he knew the Talmud worshippers sort of liked him because he wanted to "send the Jews to the desert", as Adolf put it.

but he played along with their plans - that was dumb.

just think if Adolf had stubbornly resisted all provocations to war, and just concentrated on building a stronger industrial base in Germany.

it's possible there would be no Israel.

SHTF2010
12th May 2011, 06:46 AM
i think Hitler's biggest mistake was Operation Barbarossa ( opening a 2nd front and going after Russia )

but even if Operation Barbarossa didn't happen,
Hitler would have had to deal with Stalin/Russia eventually


the good guys won
Hitler was evil incarnate

and 6,000,000 jews died :whip

steyr_m
12th May 2011, 08:26 AM
if i have one beef with him, it's that he wasn't smarter. invading Poland was stupid, invading France was stupid too. even if Germany had a border dispute with Poland, Hitler should have been smart enough to realize that he ought not to provide a provocation for war.


Q: What is your view of the Polish Corridor crisis and the outbreak of the war in 1939?

A: In September 1944, when I was commander of the guard unit at Hitler's headquarters, I spoke with Hitler during a walk together outside. I asked him: "My Fuhrer, may I speak frankly with you for a moment?""Of course," he replied. I then asked him: "Why did you really attack Poland? Couldn't you have been more patient?"

Hitler had only asked for an extra-territorial highway and rail line across Polish territory, and he wanted the return of Danzig to the Reich. These were really very modest demands. With a bit more patience, couldn't he have obtained these, in much the same way that Austria and the Sudetenland had been united with the Reich?

And Hitler replied:

"You are mistaken. I knew as early as March 1939 that Roosevelt had determined to bring about a world war, and I knew that the British were cooperating in this, and that Churchill was involved. God knows that I certainly did not want a world war. That's why I sought to solve the Polish problem in my own way with a kind of punishment expedition, without a declaration of war. After all, there had been thousands of murders of ethnic Germans and 1.2 million ethnic German refugees. What should I have done? I had to act. And for that reason, four weeks after this campaign, I made the most generous offer of peace that any victorious leader could ever have made. Unfortunately, it wasn't successful.

And then he said: "If I had not acted as I did with regard to the Polish question, to prevent a second world war, by the end of 1942 at the latest we would have experienced what we are now experiencing in 1944." That's what he said.

-- General Otto Ernst Remer

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p108_Schoeman.html




but he played along with their plans - that was dumb.


See attached picture....

Nomoss
12th May 2011, 08:38 AM
Tag. Its sad they don't know.
Thanks for the links

steyr_m
12th May 2011, 08:42 AM
i think Hitler's biggest mistake was Operation Barbarossa ( opening a 2nd front and going after Russia )


Operation Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike Here's a cliiff-notes version --

In the 1980s, this thesis was reiterated by Victor Suvorov, a former officer of the Soviet military intelligence in his book "Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War"[3] and several subsequent books. He argued that Soviet ground forces were extremely well organized, and were mobilizing en masse all along the German-Soviet border for a Soviet invasion of Europe slated for Sunday July 6, 1941, but they were totally unprepared for defensive operations on their own territory.

One of Suvorov's pieces of evidence favoring the theory of an impending Soviet attack was his claim regarding the maps and phrasebooks issued to Soviet troops. Military topographic maps, unlike other military supplies, are strictly local and cannot be used elsewhere than in the intended operational area. Suvorov claims Soviet units were issued with maps of Germany and German-occupied territory, and phrasebooks including questions about SA offices — SA offices were found only in German territory proper. In contrast, maps of Soviet territory were scarce. Notably, after the German attack, the officer responsible for maps, Lieutenant General M.K. Kudryavtsev was not punished by Stalin, who was known for extreme punishments after failures to obey his orders. According to Suvorov, this demonstrates that General Kudryavtsev was obeying the orders of Stalin, who simply did not expect a German attack.[4]

Another piece of evidence, according to Suvorov, was the extensive effort Stalin took to conceal general mobilization by manipulation with the laws setting the conscription age. That allowed Stalin to provide the explosive build up of the Red Army. Since there was no universal military draft in the Soviet Union until 1939, by enacting the universal military draft on 1 September 1939, and by changing the minimum age for joining the Red Army from 21 to 18, Stalin triggered a mechanism of explosive increase of the military strength of the Red Army.

This specific law on mobilization allowed the Red Army to increase its army of 1.871.600 million men in 1939 to 5.081.000 million men in the spring of 1941 under secrecy to avoid alarming the rest of the world.[5] 18 million reservists were also drafted.[citation needed] The duration of service was 2 years. Thus, according to supporters of the Soviet Union Offensive Plans Theory, the Red Army had to enter a war by 1 September 1941 or the drafted soldiers would have to be released from service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

The full-meal deal --

http://cran.r-project.org/doc/contrib/Robinson-icebreaker.pdf

Again, part of the interview with General Remer

Q: Did you agree with Hitler's policies, particularly his policy toward Russia?

A: Regarding the military campaign against the Soviet Union:

First of all, it should be clearly understood that at the time of the Balkans campaign in Yugoslavia and Greece in early 1941, when we had ten divisions on the entire length of the Soviet border, the Russians had stationed 247 major military formations on our border. After the conclusion of the Balkans campaign, we then quickly placed at most 170 major military units on the border with the Soviet Union. The Russians had readied themselves for an attack.

The initial successes of our forces against the Soviets were due to the fact that the Russians were not stationed in defense positions, but were instead positioned right at the front for attack, which made it possible for us to quickly encircle large Soviet forces. Thus, in the first weeks of the war, we were able to capture more than three million prisoners of war as well as enormous quantities of war equipment, all of which was on the frontier, positioned for attack.

That's the truth of the matter, which can be proven. I recently spoke with a Mr. Pemsel, who was a long-range aerial reconnaissance pilot. In the period before the beginning of the Soviet campaign, he flew as far as the Don River and observed and reported on this enormous concentration of Soviet forces on the border.

I also know from my own experience in the Russian campaign, and with the Russian prisoners, about the preparations by the Soviets for an imminent attack against Europe. The Russians were hoping that we would move against Britain so that they could then take advantage of the situation to overrun Europe.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p108_Schoeman.html



the good guys won
Hitler was evil incarnate

and 6,000,000 jews died


Debatable. The guys who won write the history books, make the movies, etc. I know the whole thing is a sham because only one side of the argument is allowed.

steyr_m
12th May 2011, 08:58 AM
lapis -- what you posted was really good. I found this in the responses -- about as good.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/israel.htm

gunDriller
12th May 2011, 02:12 PM
A great article from Veterans Today (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/11/jb-campbell-behind-the-holocaust/).


Damn ! i've got to get a Veterans Today T-Shirt.

the ADL is pouting about Veterans Today -
http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Israel/conspiracy_theories_wikileaks.htm
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/5950_62.htm

lapis
12th May 2011, 05:42 PM
the ADL is pouting about Veterans Today -
http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Israel/conspiracy_theories_wikileaks.htm


That article is clever! Notice how it sets Gordon Duff up as an anti-semitic bad guy, and then links him with even more bad guys:

"Duff's articles have also appeared on white supremacist sites."

Is it Duff's fault if people publish his stuff on their sites? I'll bet this ADL article appeared on white supremacist sites, so does that now reverse their bad-guyness and give them pro-semitic brownie points? I'm confused. :conf: :D

Or how about this:

"In an article on the Veterans Today Web site titled, "ADL: Wikileaks Vital to Israel's Intelligence Program," Gordon Duff claimed he was in contact with an anonymous "ADL source." This fictitious source allegedly said ADL was"

Bold statement! But I'll bet a lot of readers will take it at face value, and think that no one in ADL would ever come in contact with Duff, not even with a ten-foot pole.

drafter
12th May 2011, 10:00 PM
i think Hitler's biggest mistake was Operation Barbarossa ( opening a 2nd front and going after Russia )

but even if Operation Barbarossa didn't happen,
Hitler would have had to deal with Stalin/Russia eventually


The saddest thing is that he knew a two front war would fail. He lays it out in Mein Kampf that if Germany should be forced into a two front war between Russia and the the Western Allies that Germay would most likely fail. He knew it but he still went ahead with it. If only he'd allowed a little more time to build up and at least take into acount winter logistics he would have fared much better.

To be honest I think ego got the best of him. He just bit off more than he could chew. The Germans where the most technologically advanced on the face of the earth at the time, but it's been proven time and time again that technology can not trump overwhelming numbers in most cases. Russia and the US/Britain had more cannon fodder than the Germans did.


Also my opinion that it was a great loss for mankind. If things had turned out different we'd be cruising the universe at this point instead of fighting wars for Isreal and being slaves to jewish owned banks.

I do have to mention that I had relatives on the Nazi side that surprisingly survived the Dresden bombings, so I'm a tad bit biased.

gunDriller
13th May 2011, 06:37 AM
found their forums -

http://www.veteranstodayforum.com/

Neuro
13th May 2011, 08:45 AM
i think Hitler's biggest mistake was Operation Barbarossa ( opening a 2nd front and going after Russia )

but even if Operation Barbarossa didn't happen,
Hitler would have had to deal with Stalin/Russia eventually


The saddest thing is that he knew a two front war would fail. He lays it out in Mein Kampf that if Germany should be forced into a two front war between Russia and the the Western Allies that Germay would most likely fail. He knew it but he still went ahead with it. If only he'd allowed a little more time to build up and at least take into acount winter logistics he would have fared much better.

To be honest I think ego got the best of him. He just bit off more than he could chew. The Germans where the most technologically advanced on the face of the earth at the time, but it's been proven time and time again that technology can not trump overwhelming numbers in most cases. Russia and the US/Britain had more cannon fodder than the Germans did.
I think there is plenty of evidence Hitler didn't want war with Britain. Rudolfs Hess mission to UK is certainly an enigma, and has been pointed out in terms of operation Barbarossa, they either had to attack or be attacked, but most probably it would have been better to stay and consolidate, Belorussia, baltic states, Finland and Ukraine before marching on to Moscow, and they did have bad luck with the weather

AndreaGail
13th May 2011, 08:48 AM
tag for later

learn2swim
13th May 2011, 08:52 AM
Hitler was a tool for TPTB. He's not a hero to anybody, and he got away like a coward while others died. The only people that worship this fool are degenerates.

Book
13th May 2011, 02:36 PM
The only people that worship this fool are degenerates.



Only jews keep his memory alive.

:oo-->

gunDriller
13th May 2011, 06:26 PM
I think there is plenty of evidence Hitler didn't want war with Britain. Rudolfs Hess mission to UK is certainly an enigma, and has been pointed out in terms of operation Barbarossa, they either had to attack or be attacked, but most probably it would have been better to stay and consolidate, Belorussia, baltic states, Finland and Ukraine before marching on to Moscow, and they did have bad luck with the weather


perhaps i am suffering from information overload.

i don't understand the details of Germany's invastion of Russia. reading doesn't help. the information will not penetrate my mind.

but i know one detail - that winter was super, super, super cold. like a hundred year winter.

many of the deaths of Jewish people that are attributed to WW2 Germany were Jewish people living (and dying) in the Soviet Union during that extremely cold winter.

Sanning estimates that number at 1 million, and the number of deaths of Jewish people in WW2 Germany at 200,000.

steyr_m
13th May 2011, 09:45 PM
perhaps i am suffering from information overload.



You want a good explanation, read this:

http://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Hitler-Unnecessary-War-Britain/dp/030740515X

Here's a synopsis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Hitler_and_the_Unnecessary_War

Of course, this is viewed as being "Anti-Semitic"

steyr_m
13th May 2011, 09:57 PM
Hitler was a tool for TPTB.


He might have been a tool for TPTB, but an unknowing one. He was used. Once again, a grand manipulation.



he got away like a coward while others died.


BS, read Until the Final Hour: Hitler's last secretary by Traudl Junge. There's an interview of her in the 70's (I can't find the you tube video anymore), she said he killed himself.

slvrbugjim
13th May 2011, 10:48 PM
Yes, beyond the Pale indeed.....

Holy crap.... read the remarks, more informative than anything I have ever read.... very good.



Remembering Jack Bernstein, Murdered by Mossad

Remembering Jack Bernstein, murdered by Mossad for telling the truth. May he rest in peace.

My Farewell to Israel, Thorn of the Middle East
By Jack Bernstein

Before Israel became a state in 1948, Jews worldwide were filled with Zionist propaganda that Israel would be a homeland for all Jews, a refuge for persecuted Jews, a democratic country and the fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

I am an Ashkenazi Jew who spent the first 25 years of my life in the United States, the country that has given ALL Jews freedom and the opportunity to prosper — and prosper we Jews did, to the point that one portion of the Jews (the Zionists) have gained a position of political and economic dominance in the U.S.

To fully understand the story I am about to tell, it is important that you understand what Zionism really is. Zionist propaganda has led the American people to believe that Zionism and Judaism are one and the same and that they are religious in nature. This is a blatant lie.


Judaism is a religion; but Zionism is a political movement started mainly by East European (Ashkenazi) Jews who for centuries have been the main force behind communism/socialism. The ultimate goal of the Zionists is one ONE-WORLD GOVERMENT UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE ZIONISTS AND THE ZIONIST-ORIENTED JEWISH INTERNATIONAL BANKERS.

Communism/socialism are merely tools to help them accomplish their goal.

http://womenslens.blogspot.com/2009/07/remembering-jack-bernstein-murdered-by.html

ximmy
14th May 2011, 02:14 AM
Thank you for sharing this lapis...
ximmy
http://gold-silver.us/forum/gallery/331_06_05_11_1_15_26.jpeg

gunDriller
14th May 2011, 06:02 AM
full title, "The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel"
http://www.amazon.com/Life-American-Racist-Marxist-Israel/dp/0939482010

Jack Bernstein (Author)

>> what is printed below are all Jack Bernstein's words. If I make a comment, I will use the ">>" to indicate it.


"I am an Ashkenazi Jew who spent the first 25 years of my life in the United States, the country that has given ALL Jews freedom and the opportunity to prosper — and prosper we Jews did, to the point that one portion of the Jews (the Zionists) have gained a position of political and economic dominance in the U.S.

To fully understand the story I am about to tell, it is important that you understand what Zionism really is. Zionist propaganda has led the American people to believe that Zionism and Judaism are one and the same and that they are religious in nature. This is a blatant lie."


"I was a Victim of Zionist Propaganda

After the 1967 War, we Jews were filled with pride that 'our homeland' had become so powerful and successful. Then too, we had been filled with the false propaganda that Jews in America were being persecuted. So, between 1967 and 1970 approximately 50.000 American Jews fell for this Zionist propaganda and migrated to Israel. I was one of those suckers.

After being filled with all this false Zionist propaganda, I felt that I would have a better chance to succeed in the new Jewish state. There was an added enticement, the spirit and challenge of pioneering and of helping my fellow Jews.


Dual Citizenship

I had no emotional conflict with leaving the U.S. because I was still able to keep my U.S. citizenship and could return to the U.S. at any time. You see, Jews are allowed to be citizens of both Israel and some countries — U.S. is one of those countries. The U.S. government allows a Jew to be a citizen of both U.S. and Israel.

German Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Germany. Italian Americans cannot be citizen of both U.S. and Italy. Egyptian-Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Egypt . . . BUT, a Jewish American can be a citizen of both Israel and the U.S. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE POWER THE ZIONIST JEWS HAVE OVER THE U.S. GOVERMENT.


I Arrive in the "Jewish Paradise"

Before leaving for Israel, a Jewish friend of mine had made arrangements for me to stay a few days with her sister, Fawzia Daboul and her spinster aunt. After arriving at Lod Airport just outside of Tel Aviv, I took a bus to the home of Miss Daboul and her aunt. When I saw Fawzia, it was love at first sight. I started calling her 'Ziva,' her Hebrew name. Ziva is a Sephardic Jewess from Iraq who, like myself, had fallen for the Zionist propaganda and had migrated to Israel. She was employed as a hairdresser."


Prior to 1967, most of the work on the Kibbutz was done by Jews. But, since the 1967 War, the work has been done by Arabs who are paid a very low wage, and by volunteers from overseas. Members of the Kibbutz (all Jews) share all things equally. They receive clothing, food and a small allowance. All profits from the venture go into the Kibbutz account for future use. EACH OF THESE KIBBUTZ ARE AFFILIATED WITH ONE OF ISRAEL'S MARXIST PARTIES ranging from SOCIALIST TO HARD-CORE COMMUNIST.

The Kibbutz I was in was not hardcore communist. Yet, I was happy to leave after 4 months — two months earlier than originally planned. During the time I was working in the Kibbutz, I carried on courtship with Ziva. She was one of the reasons I left the Kibbutz after only 4 months — we were to be married.


Our Marriage Created Problems

The marriage ceremony was held in the Sephardic Synagogue. The ceremony was simple but beautiful. Ziva and I were happy, but our marriage created serious problems. You see, Ziva is a Sephardic Jewess and I am an Ashkenazi Jew. For an Ashkenazi Jew to marry a Sephardic Jew is frowned upon in Israel by the ruling Ashkenazis. To understand why this is the case, you must realize the difference between the Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews.

The powerful Zionist propaganda machine has led the American people to believe that a Jew is a Jew — one race of people and that they are "God's Chosen People". I will deal with the "God's Chosen People" LIE later. First, it is important for you to understand that Jews are NOT one race of people.

There are two distinct groups of Jews in the world and they come from two different areas of the world — the Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and North Africa and the Ashkenazi Jews come from Eastern Europe. The Sephardic is the oldest group and it is they, if any, who are the Jews described in the Bible because they lived in the area described in the Bible. They are blood relatives to the Arabs — the only difference between them is the religion.

The Ashkenazi Jews, who now compromise 90% of the Jews in the world, had a rather strange beginning. According to historians, many of them Jewish, the Ashkenazi Jews came into existence about 1,200 years ago. It happened this way:

At the eastern edge of Europe, there lived a tribe of people know as the Khazars. About the year 740 A.D., the Khazar king and his court decided they should adopt a religion for their people. So, representatives of the three major religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, were invited to present their religious doctrines. The Khazars chose Judaism, but it wasn't for religious reasons. If the Khazars had chosen Islam, they would have angered the strong Christian world. If they had chosen Christianity, they would have angered the strong Islamic world. So, they played it safe — they chose Judaism. It wasn't for religious reasons the Khazars chose Judaism; it was for political reasons.

Sometime during the 13th century, the Khazars were driven from their land and they migrated westward with most of them settling in Poland and Russia. These Khazars are now known as Ashkenazi Jews. Because these Khazar Ashkenazi Jews merely chose Judaism, they are not really Jews — at least not blood Jews."


"To accommodate the increasing European Jewish migration, the Jews needed more lands but the Palestinian Arabs refused to sell. So, to get more land from the Palestinians, these communist oriented European (Ashkenazi) Jews resorted to the one thing at which they are adept — TERRORISM.

Their first major act of terrorism against the Palestinians was at the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin. During the night of April 9, 1948, two Zionist terrorist gangs, the Irgun and the Stem Gang attacked and massacred over 250 men, women and children.

Menachem Begin, leader of the attack on Deir Yassin and later Prime Minister of Israel, has this to say, "The massacre was not only justified, but there would not have been a state of Israel without the 'victory' at Deir Yassin'.

The massacre at Deir Yassin caused other Palestinians to flee their homes in fear. Zionist terrorists drove trucks with loudspeakers through the streets and over the roads of Palestine warning Palestinians that what happened at Dear Yassin would happen to them if they didn't leave.

These Zionist terrorists weren't bluffing: For Example:

They killed 60 Palestinians at Balad Esh Sheikh.
They blew up 20 homes in Sa'sa, killing 60 women and children.
They killed a number of women who were working in Saint Simon monastery in Jerusalem.
They massacred 250 at Lydda.
They killed 200, mostly old people, in the village mosque in Ed-Dawayimeh.
They killed 51 workers as they returned from their fields at Kafr Qasem.
Christian inhabitants of Kaba Bir'im were expelled from the village and the village destroyed. The village cemetery was desecrated, including the smashing of 73 crosses.
During the few months when these and other acts of terrorism were taking place, 300.000 Palestinian Christians and Moslems were forced to leave their homes or be killed by the terrorist groups which were made up of European, communist oriented Jews. It was these same Marxist oriented Jews who were soon to became the ruling elite of the State of Israel. From the beginning, and to the present, these terrorist Marxist oriented Zionists have ruled Israel.

After Israel declared itself a state on May 14, 1948, Israeli terrorism continued in an effort to push more Palestinians from their homes.

Since 1948, 350 Christian churches and Moslem mosques have been destroyed by these Zionist terrorists."


>> Today is the 63rd anniversary of the Terror State of Israel.

Tumbleweed
19th May 2011, 12:15 PM
This is an interview of Ernst Zundel of what the Jews did to Germany. I saw a short teaser video of this on another thread but I don't know if the full length one has been posted here before. He is telling what the Jews did to Germany and what they did there they are now doing to this country.It's good and it's long but the two hours spent listening to it were well worth it to me.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTWBgf8K2VU

ximmy
23rd July 2011, 12:04 AM
"I'm Back... Fire up the ovens..."

Joe King
23rd July 2011, 12:18 AM
if i have one beef with him, it's that he wasn't smarter. invading Poland was stupid, invading France was stupid too. even if Germany had a border dispute with Poland, Hitler should have been smart enough to realize that he ought not to provide a provocation for war.
Exactly. He who strikes first is always seen as the agressor. That's a fact.



just think if Adolf had stubbornly resisted all provocations to war, and just concentrated on building a stronger industrial base in Germany.From what I remember of his posts, Phoenix always said he invaded Poland to take once-German land, back.


it's possible there would be no Israel.

Only possible? The only reason it is, started with Hitler choosing to go outside his borders.

Joe King
23rd July 2011, 12:30 AM
"I knew as early as March 1939 that Roosevelt had determined to bring about a world war, and I knew that the British were cooperating in this, and that Churchill was involved. God knows that I certainly did not want a world war. That's why I sought to solve the Polish problem in my own way with a kind of punishment expedition, without a declaration of war."

Excuse me, but if you knew all of that ahead of time, why play into their hands by actually being the first to go to that war?

If you realize that others would like to go to war with you, you have to let them start it so that you are seen by all as a victim and thereby justified in finishing it.

I thought all World leaders realized that, Adolph.


War is like a bar fight.
ie you don't start 'em, but rather just finish them. :)

Joe King
23rd July 2011, 12:31 AM
"I'm Back... Fire up the ovens..."
What'cha cookin'?

po boy
23rd July 2011, 08:33 AM
What'cha cookin'?

Smells like fascism with a side dish of communism.