View Full Version : Israeli media reveals U.S. president's forthcoming Mideast speech
JJ.G0ldD0t
17th May 2011, 11:44 AM
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-05/17/c_13879553.htm
JERUSALEM, May 17 (Xinhua) -- U.S. President Barack Obama will call on Israel to withdraw to the 1967 borders and agree to additional concessions that will enable a resumption of the peace process, Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth revealed on Tuesday.
The newspaper claimed to have obtained a draft of Obama's planned speech at the State Department on Thursday in which he will outline his administration's Middle East policy, in light of the anti-government protests that have swept the region over the past year.
White House press secretary Jay Carney said Sunday that Obama would raise the need for progress in the peace process. However, he did not reveal whether the president planned to present a diplomatic initiative to revive the process, after negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians broke down last September.
According to Yedioth Ahronoth, Obama will call on Israel to withdraw to the 1967 cease-fire lines with territorial adjustments that will be agreed on in the negotiations with the Palestinian National Authority. The president will label the West Bank settlements as "illegal" and emphasize that Israel must halt their construction.
Obama's position on the settlement blocs, which Israel slates to remain under its sovereignty in any peace deal, is yet unclear.
The president is also expected to announce his solution regarding the status of Jerusalem and call for its division. The U. S. envisions the city as the shared capital of the two states, Israel and Palestine, side by side in peace.
Such a stand would essentially echo the so-called "Clinton Parameters" offered by then-president Bill Clinton in 2000, which called predominantly Arab neighborhoods to come under the Palestinian sovereignty while Jewish neighborhoods remaining within the Israeli territories.
Yedioth Ahronoth claimed that the contents of Obama's speech were shared with Netanyahu's national security advisor Ya'akov Amidror and his predecessor Uzi Arad in their recent discussions with senior U.S. officials.
pg 2 at the link
Book
17th May 2011, 12:01 PM
http://www.lumsreview.com/files/obama-israel.jpg
Obama will announce his recent circumcision and conversion to Judaism. AIPAC will endorse his re-election.
JJ.G0ldD0t
17th May 2011, 12:34 PM
In the interest of being objective... the article states that the Zionists claim that the long legged mack daddy is 'bout to put the butthurt on em.
So, Can we get a Pic of Big O with a towel on his head or somethin' ?
:D
sirgonzo420
17th May 2011, 12:48 PM
In the interest of being objective... the article states that the Zionists claim that the long legged mack daddy is 'bout to put the butthurt on em.
So, Can we get a Pic of Big O with a towel on his head or somethin' ?
:D
Here you go:
http://www.thepostemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/obama-somali-muslim-garb.jpg
The yarmulke is underneath the towel.
:)
Neuro
17th May 2011, 12:50 PM
I think that if he were to say something along those lines, he will not live that much longer.
JJ.G0ldD0t
17th May 2011, 12:53 PM
In the interest of being objective... the article states that the Zionists claim that the long legged mack daddy is 'bout to put the butthurt on em.
So, Can we get a Pic of Big O with a towel on his head or somethin' ?
:D
Here you go:
http://www.thepostemail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/obama-somali-muslim-garb.jpg
The yarmulke is underneath the towel.
:)
Perfect.
JJ.G0ldD0t
17th May 2011, 12:55 PM
I think that if he were to say something along those lines, he will not live that much longer.
Naaa
He's following orders.
More likely, Mossad does a False Flag and blames it on Al-CIAda, seeing as how they are already miffed with us.
damn. Some days I scare myself.
mick silver
17th May 2011, 01:00 PM
i only see one out come if his speech reads that way ................. hold on there a war thats a cumming... a big war . Israel not going to give nothing back
Ponce
17th May 2011, 01:35 PM
Talk without action is like being mute........this article shows that there are traitors in the White House.
JJ.G0ldD0t
19th May 2011, 01:35 PM
Speech was today...
hoo boey
He pizzed off Nettypoo
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/19/obamas-mideast-speech-offers-punishment-praise/
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu swiftly rejected President Obama's call Thursday for Israel to pull back to the borders that existed before the 1967 Six-Day War, calling those lines militarily "indefensible."
Obama, in a sweeping address tackling the uprisings in the Middle East and the stalled peace process, stunned Washington and Jerusalem by endorsing Palestinians' demand for their own state based on the pre-1967 borders. The break with longstanding U.S. policy appeared to immediately aggravate the Israelis, who want the borders of any future Palestinian state determined through negotiations.
In a statement released late Thursday, Netanyahu said such a withdrawal would jeopardize Israel's security and leave major West Bank settlements outside Israeli borders.
The U.S. had previously endorsed the concept of a Palestinian state, but not the demand for permanent pre-1967 borders, with mutually agreed land swaps. The declaration comes ahead of a meeting in Washington between Obama and Netanyahu.
"The status quo is unsustainable," Obama said. "A lasting peace will involve two states for two peoples."
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Raw Data: Text of President Obama's Mideast Speech
Though the shift will likely create tension as the president meets with Netanyahu and heads next to address Israel advocacy group AIPAC this weekend, Obama sought to assure that the United States' commitment to Israeli security is "unshakable."
He said Israeli's right to defend itself will remain paramount, and suggested the recent unity agreement between Fatah and Hamas, which the U.S. deems a terrorist group, is problematic for negotiations. Though Israel occupied East Jerusalem, along with the West Bank and Gaza Strip, in the 1967 Six Day War, Obama said Thursday that the "future of Jerusalem" remains to be worked out, as does the fate of Palestinian refugees.
He also publicly rejected attempts by the Palestinians to gain recognition for their own state before the United Nations. "Symbolic actions to isolate Israel at the United Nations in September won't create an independent state," Obama said.
The border announcement, which came toward the end of the president's 50-minute speech, was arguably the most significant statement in an address otherwise devoted to underscoring U.S. support for the uprisings in the Middle East and North Africa. Speaking at the State Department, the president sought to align the U.S. with the ambitions of protesters pushing for economic and political reform, while warning heads of state who resist this wave that the U.S. is losing patience.
"We cannot hesitate to stand squarely on the side of those who are reaching for their rights, knowing that their success will bring about a world that is more peaceful, more stable, and more just," he said.
Obama, in his strongest words to date, offered an ultimatum to Syrian President Bashar Assad. "President Assad now has a choice. He can lead that transition or get out of the way," Obama said.
He said Assad's regime, which has killed hundreds in an effort to quell the unrest in Syria, must stop shooting and arresting its people.
Obama also called Al Qaeda and Usama bin Laden, who was killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan, a "dead end," suggesting the push for reform will represent the future of the region. He sought to connect the death of bin Laden to the wave of protests, arguing that anti-western rhetoric and attacks are losing their audience. "The slaughter of innocents did not answer their cry for a better life," he said.
Rather, Obama said: "A new generation has emerged and their voices tell us that change cannot be denied."
The president is taking a carrot-and-stick approach as the Arab Spring turns to summer and protesters' demands across the region are met with repression.
After sending U.S. forces into Libya two months ago to halt strongman Muammar al-Qaddafi's advances against his people, the Obama administration sent a message Wednesday to Assad by slapping him and top officials in Damascus with financial sanctions over his regime's brutal crackdown.
Obama, in his speech Thursday, addressed the standoff in these two countries, staunchly defending U.S. military involvement in Libya. But he also offered new levels of support to Egypt and Tunisia, countries where demonstrations ousted entrenched leaders and which the administration is holding up as a "beacon" in the region, according to one official.
He outlined specific dollar support for Egypt, where the nation's tourism-fueled economy has fallen into a slump in the wake of the upheaval, in turn increasing the country's projected deficit. Obama said Thursday the U.S. would forgive roughly $1 billion in debt owed by Egypt to free up money for job-creation efforts there. Plus he plans to guarantee up to $1 billion in loans for Egypt through the Overseas Private Investment Corp., a U.S. government institution that mobilizes private capital.
Obama is pushing other steps to bolster loans, trade and international support in Egypt and in Tunisia. Protesters in Bahrain, Yemen, Syria and other nations have endured brutal setbacks. He said the changes in the region mark a "new chapter" for U.S. diplomacy and argued that America has an important role to play.
A new poll out of the Pew Research Center, though, found that the shifting political sands in the Middle East have not generally led to an improvement in the U.S. image in the region.
sirgonzo420
19th May 2011, 01:49 PM
are we gonna get "false flagged" now?
AndreaGail
19th May 2011, 01:57 PM
patriotards and judeo christians alike are in an uproar. their dreidles and yarmulkes are flying
example here
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?383970-OBAMA-SIDES-WITH-PALESTINE
JJ.G0ldD0t
19th May 2011, 02:02 PM
People have silly putty for brains... And they'll let just anybody play with it.
gunDriller
19th May 2011, 02:32 PM
the timing of this is very interesting.
first of all, Obama is COMPLETELY in the Jewish & Israeli camp. He credits the Chicago Jewish community for helping him get elected.
and - Obama was completely silent just prior to his in-puke-uration, when Israel was killing 1400+ Palestinian civilians in Gaza, December 27/28 2008 to January 2009.
i think that's actually why he got the Nobel Peace Prize in October 2009.
"Nominations for the prize had to be postmarked by February 1, 2009, only 12 days after Obama took office."
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-09/world/nobel.peace.prize_1_norwegian-nobel-committee-international-diplomacy-and-cooperation-nuclear-weapons?_s=PM:WORLD
just another one of those coincidences ... :sarc:
so if there is any Obama-Netanyahu disagreement, it is 99% or 100% completely scripted.
i can't help but wonder - is this an attempt to look reasonable before another major false flag attack ?
then they can say, "see, we tried to be reasonable, and look what happened. now we'll have to get tough."
Ponce
19th May 2011, 02:34 PM
That Zionist leader already told him to get screwed that they would not do it.....it has to be the Zionist way or no way.
Book
19th May 2011, 05:22 PM
example here
I was always struck by TIMEBOMB2000's pro-jew Mod bias. Remains to this day...
:D
Trinity
19th May 2011, 06:06 PM
so if there is any Obama-Netanyahu disagreement, it is 99% or 100% completely scripted.
i can't help but wonder - is this an attempt to look reasonable before another major false flag attack ?
then they can say, "see, we tried to be reasonable, and look what happened. now we'll have to get tough."
The cynic in me would usualy agree with that post gunDriller, but for some reason I think Obama is being genuine on this one. Of course this also means he is going to be a one term president like Carter.
ShortJohnSilver
19th May 2011, 07:47 PM
What if TPTB are tired of Netanyahu (a/k/a Pinsky) not being able to get anything done, maybe they are using Obama to throw the Bibimeister under the bus?
would be a perfect chutzpah 180 - kick Pinsky and blame it on the American schvartser ...
AndreaGail
19th May 2011, 10:04 PM
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l321/Gail_Andrea/fox.png
from a fox news poll :oo-->
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/19/israel-pull-67-borders-create-palestinian-state/
mick silver
20th May 2011, 07:29 AM
hell Obama like wars more then bush does ......................... some thing is coming are way . hell i was out getting some seeds yesterday and every were i stop you hear the guys talking about a war that coming ... there talking people into this
gunDriller
20th May 2011, 10:02 AM
hell Obama like wars more then bush does ......................... some thing is coming are way . hell i was out getting some seeds yesterday and every were i stop you hear the guys talking about a war that coming ... there talking people into this
i think you are right, in the sense that the US is not literally abandoning Israel.
IDEA #1
like i said, US lobbies Israel to pull back, in an attempt to look peaceful, prior to a false flag.
In the mean-time - the world economy continues to collapse. that will be more obvious when 2Q financial results are released, 3 full months of post-Fukushima action.
IDEA #2
somehow tied in to the (for me) surprising push of the "when aliens attack" theme, and the last 6 months of deliberate US gov. disclosures about UFO's.
i would still bet $$ that any formal ET contact disclosure will come in religious overtones, that they will try to tie it in to a "Jesus returns" theme.
related to the fact that Luke 1:26-38 sounds so much like the contact experiences that people describe in all the UFO books. Mary simply had a contact experience.
it's obvious that Israel's treatment of the Palestinians would REALLY piss off Jesus, if He did return. is it possible that they're "cleaning up their act" before staging such an event ?
IDEA #3
TPTB have decided to move Israel to the back-burner. the support of Zionism by Jews was never comprehensive - until after WW2.
before WW2, many European Jews had no interest in Hitler's plan to "send the Jews to the desert".
it's possible that TPTB have decided that Israel is inconvenient.
in short, i don't know. like Yoda Goldberg said, "always in motion is the future."
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Luke 1:26-38
In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored !! The Lord is with you." Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be.
But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, his kingdom will never end."
"How will this be, "Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin ??" The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. For nothing is impossible with God." "I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her.
EE_
20th May 2011, 10:17 AM
I agree, totally scripted!
Netanyahu is a major player, and he's not giving shit back...in fact, it's quite the opposite!
I think this can only inflame the Arab countries.
They are making thier move to take control of the Middle East.
The war will commence soon.
Next stop Syria, (with their eye on the prize)...Iran!
May Israel and all it's friends burn in hell!
gunDriller
20th May 2011, 07:41 PM
I agree, totally scripted!
Netanyahu is a major player, and he's not giving shit back...in fact, it's quite the opposite!
I think this can only inflame the Arab countries.
They are making thier move to take control of the Middle East.
The war will commence soon.
Next stop Syria, (with their eye on the prize)...Iran!
May Israel and all it's friends burn in hell!
considering where they're located, all we have to do is turn off their air conditioning.
Book
20th May 2011, 09:07 PM
I agree, totally scripted!
Netanyahu is a major player, and he's not giving shit back...in fact, it's quite the opposite!
I think this can only inflame the Arab countries...
Exactly and it will inflame the region. Netanyahu just publicly put the Palestinians and Obama on official notice:
1) No refugee return ever.
2) Jews will remain and grow all over the West Bank.
3) Gaza will remain an open air prison.
4) Obama will veto as needed at the UN.
BarneyFag
20th May 2011, 10:35 PM
The headline should read, Israel reveals speech they wrote for Obama.
Isreal is now under victim status and has nothing to do with any wars going on in the middle east.
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