View Full Version : Cop Breaks a Kid's Arm and Tasers Him. His Offense? Saggy Pants.
Ares
17th May 2011, 01:52 PM
Derby, Kansas, high school sophomore Jonathan Villarreal was walking to the bus after school when a police officer ordered him to pull his pants up above his hips. Jonathan refused, on the grounds that the school day was over. As reported in the Wichita Eagle, here’s what happened next:
[Villarreal] said one of the officers, a man who was larger than him, pulled him to the ground by the neck and told him to stop resisting arrest. Villarreal denied he was resisting.
Both officers kneed him in the back and neck while he was on the ground, he said.
Because they were physical with him, he struggled to get up, but was pushed back down, he said.
At one point as he tried to get up, Villarreal said he felt his arm break when he was pushed back down.
After Villarreal tried three times to get up, one officer fired a Taser at his chest, he said. Although he was wearing a heavy coat, he still felt an electrical shock, he said.
According to the article, the police department is investigating the incident. But, sadly, it illustrates a larger problem that continues to pop up around the country: the use of street-policing tactics against kids, and disproportionately kids of color, for behavior that, at worst, might merit ordinary school-based discipline.
Around the country, police assigned to patrol school campuses — where police may have a legitimate role in responding to serious criminal conduct or imminent danger — often direct their efforts where law enforcement is clearly misplaced. This is part of a disturbing national trend called the School-to-Prison Pipeline, wherein children are funneled out of public schools and into the juvenile and criminal justice systems. Jonathan’s story is a perfect example of this larger problem. A school’s right to regulate dress code is one thing; but whatever role such regulations play in a school’s educational mission, they fall miles short of justifying a police officer’s use of brutal force against a kid.
Every child deserves an educational experience free from inappropriate policing. Over and over again, however, a pattern emerges: students of color are most likely to face overaggressive policing in schools and to suffer long-lasting effects on their educational prospects as a result. Being arrested nearly doubles the odds that a child will drop out of school, and, if coupled with a court appearance, nearly quadruples the odds of dropout; an arrest also lowers standardized test scores, reduces future employment prospects, and increases the likelihood of future interaction with the criminal justice system.
The ACLU is engaged in nationwide advocacy against over-policing in the classroom. One aspect of that advocacy is a case we filed with the New York Civil Liberties Union and the law firm Dorsey & Whitney challenging the manner in which New York Police Department officers are deployed in public middle and high schools in New York City. Following years of investigation and advocacy, the lawsuit argues that a pattern of unlawful arrests, seizures, and uses of force violate the constitutional rights of students throughout New York City.
Jonathan’s story has disturbing echoes in our lawsuit: In New York City, kids are routinely arrested and subjected to force for behavior that arguably violates school rules but falls far short of criminal conduct. The litigation tells several of these stories. One 12-year-old girl was handcuffed and arrested for drawing on a desk in erasable marker. Another student — a 15-year-old girl — was painfully handcuffed and arrested for not proceeding quickly enough to detention.
Our lawsuit is pending. We hope that it will lead to meaningful reforms in New York City. Beyond the immediate ruling we seek from the court, we hope it has a broader impact as well. Eventually, policing in the school environment should be limited to only the most extreme circumstances. But the realm of ordinary school discipline should belong to educators, not cops.
http://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech-racial-justice/cop-breaks-kids-arm-and-tasers-him-his-offense-saggy-pants-1
madfranks
17th May 2011, 02:00 PM
Villarreal denied he was resisting.
Both officers kneed him in the back and neck while he was on the ground, he said.
Because they were physical with him, he struggled to get up, but was pushed back down, he said.
At one point as he tried to get up, Villarreal said he felt his arm break when he was pushed back down.
Well, clearly he was in fact resisting (not that I think that's a problem - in fact the moral thing to do is resist). If they've got you on the ground with their knees to your back, you're not getting up without being tased, shot, or killed. So either accept you're going to be shot and killed and hope for the best, or stop resisting and don't say anything except ask for your lawyer.
Ponce
17th May 2011, 02:16 PM
Like in Iraq, Afgha and Pakistan the more of them that we kill the more enemys that we will have.....here the more people that the cops harass the more enemies that they will have later on.
Hillbilly
17th May 2011, 02:20 PM
I have no sympathy for those saggy panted fagots. They are all either Gang Members or Wiggers. They are one of the biggest reasons this country is going down the shitter and they are not fit to flip burgers.
po boy
17th May 2011, 02:23 PM
I have no sympathy for those saggy panted fagots. They are all either Gang Members or Wiggers. They are one of the biggest reasons this country is going down the shitter and they are not fit to flip burgers.
First they came for the saggy pants faggots.........
TheNocturnalEgyptian
17th May 2011, 02:26 PM
I have no sympathy for those saggy panted fagots. They are all either Gang Members or Wiggers. They are one of the biggest reasons this country is going down the shitter and they are not fit to flip burgers.
So you believe violent force should be used on people who are dressed differently from what you believe is right? That is a sickening affront to the common law.
It's one thing if someone is EXPOSING themselves in public. It's another thing entirely if they're covered up!
The country is going down the shitter because people use the law for their own (im)moral capades, instead of to produce civil peace! YOUR ATTITUDE AND OTHERS LIKE IT IS WHY THIS COUNTRY IS SUFFERING.
Hillbilly
17th May 2011, 03:09 PM
I have seen more of these Saggy Panted Losers than I can stand and they were all with out a doubt one hundred percent worthless at best and at worse homicidal gang members. Nope still no sympathy for them.
I have no sympathy for those saggy panted fagots. They are all either Gang Members or Wiggers. They are one of the biggest reasons this country is going down the shitter and they are not fit to flip burgers.
So you believe violent force should be used on people who are dressed differently from what you believe is right? That is a sickening affront to the common law.
It's one thing if someone is EXPOSING themselves in public. It's another thing entirely if they're covered up!
The country is going down the shitter because people use the law for their own (im)moral capades, instead of to produce civil peace! YOUR ATTITUDE AND OTHERS LIKE IT IS WHY THIS COUNTRY IS SUFFERING.
po boy
17th May 2011, 03:17 PM
[quote=Hillbilly ]
I have seen more of these Saggy Panted Losers than I can stand and they were all with out a doubt one hundred percent worthless at best and at worse homicidal gang members. Nope still no sympathy for them.
I bet they will feel the same for you Hillbilly when your arm is broken for breaking no law.
It's funny I had a saggy pants dude help me unlock my keys from my car and he wouldn't even take a tip.
Cebu_4_2
17th May 2011, 03:18 PM
I have seen more of these Saggy Panted Losers than I can stand and they were all with out a doubt one hundred percent worthless at best and at worse homicidal gang members. Nope still no sympathy for them.
You a psyops agent? I hate the asscrack look but don't think a kid should be bullied AT ALL by "peace Officers" for any reason at all besides pointing a firearm or being a serious threat to anyone else. Walking down a street don't qualify. Same goes for any and all adults.
Police get away with murder daily and you say some worthless kid is the cause of the demise of this country???
Fucking I can't believe you really think this, I mean if "anyone" had half a brain you know what the problems with all Western countries is. The fucking Elitest Banking Cartel.
Some fucking kid is the problem... for fucks sake.
Neuro
17th May 2011, 03:25 PM
Being arrested nearly doubles the odds that a child will drop out of school, and, if coupled with a court appearance, nearly quadruples the odds of dropout; an arrest also lowers standardized test scores, reduces future employment prospects, and increases the likelihood of future interaction with the criminal justice system.Why is the system so unfair to kids that get arrested and sent to court??
Hmmm...
[Think]
Really difficult this...
[Think]
Maybe it is because kids that get arrested, are more likely to be criminals...
I don't really think that not getting arrested and taken to court is of help to criminal kids.
Spectrism
17th May 2011, 03:31 PM
What law was the kid violating?
Cebu_4_2
17th May 2011, 03:34 PM
What law was the kid violating?
The ass crack law, probably passed without a vote and never even went to the governors desk. Mabey the police passed their own agenda without a vote to tase, arrest, break arms and shoot any kid with pants too low.
boogietillyapuke
17th May 2011, 03:51 PM
http://theloop21.com/society/why-we-should-support-florida%E2%80%99s-sagging-pants-ban
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Hillbilly
17th May 2011, 06:43 PM
The saggy pants crowd are totally useless. I have never seen them doing anything worth a shit, they are so stupid they can't even be smart enough to pull up their pants.
They spend their day listening to rap music and waddling around like a retard. It's like an IQ test and they failed. They are just too stupid to care about because they will only bring us down.
It's not like the Patriotic kid with an American Flag T-shirt getting shit from the school system these are truly stupid people that should more than likely be living in group homes for the rest of their lives.
Do you really want them cooking your food, drawing your blood or cleaning your teath? of course not you know they are too stupid for that.
mrnhtbr2232
17th May 2011, 06:56 PM
The saggy pants crowd are totally useless. I have never seen them doing anything worth a shit, they are so stupid they can't even be smart enough to pull up their pants.
They spend their day listening to rap music and waddling around like a retard. It's like an IQ test and they failed. They are just too stupid to care about because they will only bring us down.
It's not like the Patriotic kid with an American Flag T-shirt getting shit from the school system these are truly stupid people that should more than likely be living in group homes for the rest of their lives.
Do you really want them cooking your food, drawing your blood or cleaning your teath? of course not you know they are too stupid for that.
If Abe Foxman himself was given the same treatment by police as this guy I would still support his rights. Strange bedfellows are made in these times, and you would be doing yourself a disservice to deny that. They may be saggy-pant losers but they are still Americans and either the law stands for all or it stand for no one. The police are out of control and now becoming the main reason our nation is in peril. They will of course deny it, but facts are facts. They could just have easily gone up to him and said please pull your pants up. If he didn't comply and it was a statutory offense they could ticket the guy. But for Christ's sake - a broken arm and getting zapped?
ximmy
17th May 2011, 06:58 PM
The saggy pants crowd are totally useless. I have never seen them doing anything worth a shit, they are so stupid they can't even be smart enough to pull up their pants.
They spend their day listening to rap music and waddling around like a retard. It's like an IQ test and they failed. They are just too stupid to care about because they will only bring us down.
It's not like the Patriotic kid with an American Flag T-shirt getting shit from the school system these are truly stupid people that should more than likely be living in group homes for the rest of their lives.
Do you really want them cooking your food, drawing your blood or cleaning your teath? of course not you know they are too stupid for that.
If Abe Foxman himself was given the same treatment by police as this guy I would still support his rights. Strange bedfellows are made in these times, and you would be doing yourself a disservice to deny that. They may be saggy-pant losers but they are still Americans and either the law stands for all or it stand for no one. The police are out of control and now becoming the main reason our nation is in peril. They will of course deny it, but facts are facts. They could just have easily gone up to him and said please pull your pants up. If he didn't comply and it was a statutory offense they could ticket the guy. But for Christ's sake - a broken arm and getting zapped?
What about Abe Froman? Would you support him?
Cobalt
17th May 2011, 07:12 PM
The jails are full of saggy pants kids for one simple reason.
Have you ever seen a penguin run?
Well neither can the baggy pants kids and they get easily caught even by overweight, out of shape LEO's
Antonio
17th May 2011, 07:18 PM
I have no sympathy for those saggy panted fagots. They are all either Gang Members or Wiggers. They are one of the biggest reasons this country is going down the shitter and they are not fit to flip burgers.
I`m in da Bronx, the saggy pants faggots central. I want to see them meet a violent death regardless of their race, plenty of whites show their asses here too. The fact that one can walk the streets like this is proof that this country is finished. They constantly push the limit of how low they can wear their pants. It`s a difficult game showing the crack and not losing the pants alltogether, they have to walk funny to keep the pants in this delicate balance. It is not laziness but an activity that totally preoccupies their simian brains. Another thing is constantly grabbing their crotch and sticking their hands inside it, they ride the subway digging inside their pants while staring at women.
Do you want them to stare at your wives and daughters while playing with themselves and showing their asses?
Quad
18th May 2011, 08:06 AM
Stripping parents and teachers of their traditional authority and disciplinary prerogatives makes “over-policing” by the state inevitable.
The opposite of authority is not freedom. The opposite of authority is tyranny. (Chesterton?)
Awoke
18th May 2011, 08:34 AM
The entire "Saggy pants" culture is DIRECT product of the HipHop music industry that is rammed down the throats of our youth by the babylonian media.
These kids are brainwashed by the media, inculcated with imagery that makes the culture look "Cool".
Those same people could/would dress and act very differently if they were brought up on a farm in Wyoming or the Bayou of Louisiana.
Making blanket statements that "every guy who wears saggy pants is a loser and not flit to flip burgers and should meet a violent death" is no different than saying that every white guy is a wall street con artist.
Use your heads.
Spectrism
18th May 2011, 08:41 AM
Sure they are stupid. Is there a law agaist stupid?
If you think it is fine for a cop to beat a guy for stupid pants, then you better shut up about a cop beating someone over carrying a handgun, or holding a protest sign, or just walking down the street.
gunDriller
18th May 2011, 09:09 AM
The basic principle is, cops do not have a right to arrest people unless they are endangering the health, wealth, and safety of others.
Wearing ugly clothes doesn't fall in that category. If it was, Lady Gaga would be in jail full-time.
Of course, that doesn't mean we have to feel sorry for the kid, any more than we have to feel sorry for Rodney King.
but in both cases, what the cops did was WAAAAY beyond their job description.
Also, it creates dangerous precedents ... what if the cop decides they don't like you because you have an "Audit the Fed" bumper sticker ? That mindset is on the SPLC list of potential signs of "domestic terrorists" ... and they, the ADL, & similar groups are training American cops these days.
Hillbilly
18th May 2011, 10:21 AM
You're Half right. Yes given different circumstances they would dress differently but...They are still the worst kind of slacker/followers you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. these shit heads would still be shit heads no matter what they are wearing and still a big burden on society.
These are the kind of idiots that if told by one of their "Idols" to "kill whitey" would not hesitate to put a knife in your back.
Make sure you know just who you are fighting for.
The entire "Saggy pants" culture is DIRECT product of the HipHop music industry that is rammed down the throats of our youth by the babylonian media.
These kids are brainwashed by the media, inculcated with imagery that makes the culture look "Cool".
Those same people could/would dress and act very differently if they were brought up on a farm in Wyoming or the Bayou of Louisiana.
Making blanket statements that "every guy who wears saggy pants is a loser and not flit to flip burgers and should meet a violent death" is no different than saying that every white guy is a wall street con artist.
Use your heads.
Awoke
18th May 2011, 10:33 AM
You're Half right. Yes given different circumstances they would dress differently but...They are still the worst kind of slacker/followers you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. these shit heads would still be shit heads no matter what they are wearing and still a big burden on society.
These are the kind of idiots that if told by one of their "Idols" to "kill whitey" would not hesitate to put a knife in your back.
You don't KNOW that. You sit here and judge and make statements as if they are fact, but you don't KNOW what kind of people they would be if they were raised in an ethical environment with virtuous and morally upstanding parents.
They are products of the destruction of values, morality and society being perpetrated by the NWO elites.
The sad thing about this is that they think they're cool, when they are really brainwashed, unoriginal by-products of the future deviancy to come, courtesy of the babylonian talmudists.
mamboni
18th May 2011, 10:44 AM
I have no sympathy for those saggy panted fagots. They are all either Gang Members or Wiggers. They are one of the biggest reasons this country is going down the shitter and they are not fit to flip burgers.
I`m in da Bronx, the saggy pants faggots central. I want to see them meet a violent death regardless of their race, plenty of whites show their asses here too. The fact that one can walk the streets like this is proof that this country is finished. They constantly push the limit of how low they can wear their pants. It`s a difficult game showing the crack and not losing the pants alltogether, they have to walk funny to keep the pants in this delicate balance. It is not laziness but an activity that totally preoccupies their simian brains. Another thing is constantly grabbing their crotch and sticking their hands inside it, they ride the subway digging inside their pants while staring at women.
Do you want them to stare at your wives and daughters while playing with themselves and showing their asses?
Antonio, my slightly radioactive friend,
I can assure you that women are not sexually aroused by the ‘exposed plumber’s crack’ look. I speak from personal experience. ;D
Hillbilly
18th May 2011, 10:57 AM
The two sad thing about this is that they think they're cool, when they are really brainwashed, unoriginal by-products of the future deviancy to come, courtesy of the babylonian talmudists.
Exactly, they are easily led and are followers. They are choosing to be led around by the nose by immoral useless leaders. So in this time or another time they would still be led around by the nose by immoral idiots and still a burden on society.
sirgonzo420
18th May 2011, 11:12 AM
I have no sympathy for those saggy panted fagots. They are all either Gang Members or Wiggers. They are one of the biggest reasons this country is going down the shitter and they are not fit to flip burgers.
I`m in da Bronx, the saggy pants faggots central. I want to see them meet a violent death regardless of their race, plenty of whites show their asses here too. The fact that one can walk the streets like this is proof that this country is finished. They constantly push the limit of how low they can wear their pants. It`s a difficult game showing the crack and not losing the pants alltogether, they have to walk funny to keep the pants in this delicate balance. It is not laziness but an activity that totally preoccupies their simian brains. Another thing is constantly grabbing their crotch and sticking their hands inside it, they ride the subway digging inside their pants while staring at women.
Do you want them to stare at your wives and daughters while playing with themselves and showing their asses?
Antonio, my slightly radioactive friend,
I can assure you that women are not sexually aroused by the ‘exposed plumber’s crack’ look. I speak from personal experience. ;D
And to think all this time I thought you were a man!
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/62233/62233,1255459092,1/stock-photo-sexy-female-doctor-with-stethoscope-on-a-white-background-38799676.jpg
Camp Bassfish
18th May 2011, 12:03 PM
The saggy pants crowd are totally useless. I have never seen them doing anything worth a shit, they are so stupid they can't even be smart enough to pull up their pants.
They spend their day listening to rap music and waddling around like a retard. It's like an IQ test and they failed. They are just too stupid to care about because they will only bring us down.
It's not like the Patriotic kid with an American Flag T-shirt getting shit from the school system these are truly stupid people that should more than likely be living in group homes for the rest of their lives.
Do you really want them cooking your food, drawing your blood or cleaning your teath? of course not you know they are too stupid for that.
If Abe Foxman himself was given the same treatment by police as this guy I would still support his rights. Strange bedfellows are made in these times, and you would be doing yourself a disservice to deny that. They may be saggy-pant losers but they are still Americans and either the law stands for all or it stand for no one. The police are out of control and now becoming the main reason our nation is in peril. They will of course deny it, but facts are facts. They could just have easily gone up to him and said please pull your pants up. If he didn't comply and it was a statutory offense they could ticket the guy. But for Christ's sake - a broken arm and getting zapped?
What about Abe Froman? Would you support him?
The Sausage King of Chicago??
ximmy
18th May 2011, 12:23 PM
The saggy pants crowd are totally useless. I have never seen them doing anything worth a shit, they are so stupid they can't even be smart enough to pull up their pants.
They spend their day listening to rap music and waddling around like a retard. It's like an IQ test and they failed. They are just too stupid to care about because they will only bring us down.
It's not like the Patriotic kid with an American Flag T-shirt getting shit from the school system these are truly stupid people that should more than likely be living in group homes for the rest of their lives.
Do you really want them cooking your food, drawing your blood or cleaning your teath? of course not you know they are too stupid for that.
If Abe Foxman himself was given the same treatment by police as this guy I would still support his rights. Strange bedfellows are made in these times, and you would be doing yourself a disservice to deny that. They may be saggy-pant losers but they are still Americans and either the law stands for all or it stand for no one. The police are out of control and now becoming the main reason our nation is in peril. They will of course deny it, but facts are facts. They could just have easily gone up to him and said please pull your pants up. If he didn't comply and it was a statutory offense they could ticket the guy. But for Christ's sake - a broken arm and getting zapped?
What about Abe Froman? Would you support him?
The Sausage King of Chicago??
Correct... Even Abe Froman is not without his distractors...
"Sure, the world is full of filthy, bitter, little people who'll tell you my success is down to connections with the Mob. Or that I just walked into the job when my old man, Abe Froeman Senior passed on.
But, let me tell you, these people don't know a thing about the Sausage business.
I became the Sausage King through work, work and more work, pure and simple. And an effective marketing strategy. Since I've been CEO of Froeman Inc., I've seen the company increase in value by almost 3%. I think that speaks for itself." ~Abe Froman
http://www.smalloranges.com/sausage/index.htm
Bullion_Bob
18th May 2011, 05:22 PM
Part of this is don't dress yourself up to look like people that usually get caught by the police doing the majority of crimes.
If you wanna look like what cops usually pick up all the time for doing stupid shit...
There's a line of common sense in there somewhere to be discovered.
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