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Plastic
18th May 2011, 03:25 PM
Trying to locate bulk raspberry and blackberry seeds for sale and have run into a brick wall. I need to direct sow 2,000 row feet of both this fall but the best I can find are 10 stratified seeds for 3.50 when I need it by the ounce and unstratified. Google gives over a million results on the search and the first 80 pages consist almost entirely of raspberry seed oil/extract and the Gurneys site (while saying seed for sale) has only pre grown canes for 5.00 a pop.... One site I did find sells seed by the pound but they have been sterilized for soap making of all things.

Guess I could gather my own raspberry seeds this summer... but...

Starting to panic here and need help please...

Why is it so damned difficult to find these things? sheesh... It is almost as if "someone" does'nt want these prolific, easy to grow, fruit producing plants in the hands of us common people.

big country
18th May 2011, 06:54 PM
I found some raspberry seeds
http://www.tradewindsfruitstore.com/servlet/the-221/Rubus-idaeus--dsh--Golden/Detail

Seems like a reasonable price, they are yellow though. Still looking for blackberries

EDIT:

Found your jackpot.

http://sheffields.com/SEEDS
Check under the genus RUBUS for blackberries, raspberries, black raspberries,

direct link for blackberries
http://sheffields.com/seed_genus_species_lot/Rubus/alleghaniensis/090512
1lb for $532...Seeds Per Pound:168,970

Red Raspberries
http://sheffields.com/seed_genus_species_lot/Rubus/idaeus/070457
1lb for $153...Seeds Per Pound: 272,400

my favorite, black raspberry
http://sheffields.com/seed_genus_species_lot/Rubus/occidentalis/080142
1lb for $415...Seeds Per Pound:195,220


I highly doubt you need a whole pound of any of these!

Cobalt
18th May 2011, 07:03 PM
Never heard of anybody planting raspberries by seed.

I have a lot of volunteers coming up between my rows all the time and am constantly having to remove them.

I bet if you went to a local farm you could work out a deal of digging plants from between the rows, it would be a win/win situation because they have to clean them out anyway and you are willing to toss them a couple bucks for doing it

Plastic
18th May 2011, 09:18 PM
I thank you both!


Normally I would transplant but with so many row feet I would have to gather roughly 4k plants of each, what a pain! Better to sow and thin out the rows after germination imo.

drafter
18th May 2011, 10:56 PM
Good luck with your search.

Around here blackberries literally grow like weeds. I love the berries, but they are so prolific in this area that they take over just about everything. Seems i never have enough time to cut back the darn things. I do hope to can a bazillion jars of blackberry jam sometime in late August/ early September though.

Plastic
18th May 2011, 11:20 PM
Only thing I find around here drafter are black raspberries, they are everywhere, I love them, and will have many thousands of plants next year. :)

Think I will dig a few elderberry bushes from the ditches this fall too just because.

mightymanx
18th May 2011, 11:50 PM
Wholy crap I have neverheard of someone wanting to plant blackberries.

Hell around my parts you park a car for more than a week the blackberries will engulf it and it dissapears.







Ok a week is an exaggeration a month is not.

Plastic
19th May 2011, 07:43 AM
Ahhh you must have good soil, around here it is dark sand ontop of orange sand. Gonna have to add lots of fertilizer and lime before I sow.

If I tilled this (soil) I'd have dustbowl conditions in Indiana, this area was ocean bottom at one time and the massive salt beds under lake Michigan prove it heh.

big country
19th May 2011, 08:37 AM
black raspberries are my favorite. Blackberries have too many seeds.

Good luck with your planting. Are you doing this for a Jam business or something or just SHTF prepping?

Plastic
19th May 2011, 01:59 PM
SHTF prepping for the most part, but if the SHTF does not occur for a couple years then it is into the jam jars and demijons. :D

As far as blackberries being too seedy just toss them into a blender for a while and strain through a sieve. I am getting all worked up just thinking about this project.

big country
19th May 2011, 05:11 PM
You're going to have berries coming out your ears when all those plants start producing. That is a shit load of berry plants!
Good luck with the project! Do you have any of the posts and wire up yet to tie them to?

Plastic
19th May 2011, 05:21 PM
Not yet big country, this fall after I make rows and sow them I will pound posts in, in a "V" shaped pattern all the way down then wrap them with spare electric fence wire, should'nt need them until next summer or so but will put them in this fall anyway.

Dogman
19th May 2011, 06:56 PM
Had a friend years ago that planted blackberry's and raspberry's along 3 sides of a 8' privacy fence for about
400' total length, and tied the vines up and along the fence so the entire fence wall was covered with vines.
Extremity NEAT! When it came time to pick as the berry's ripened, there was NO bending over to the ground
to get them! One of them their mobetter ideals! ;D

Plastic
19th May 2011, 08:24 PM
I'll be planting 5 rows of each, in rows 2 foot wide and 400 feet long. :P

Will be 2 years before fruit production but what the hell, first year primacanes second year floracanes.

gunDriller
25th May 2011, 07:34 PM
Wholy crap I have neverheard of someone wanting to plant blackberries.

Hell around my parts you park a car for more than a week the blackberries will engulf it and it dissapears.

Ok a week is an exaggeration a month is not.


i have noticed.

the blackberry is so vigorous that i would think that Monsanto has an entire R&D department dedicated to copying those characteristics to other plants.

can you imagine a cross of poison oak and blackberry ? almost sounds like a chemical weapon.

heck they made a movie about CIA trained guinea pigs. the US & Israeli gov would weaponize anything.