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MNeagle
18th May 2011, 07:48 PM
By Detroit News detroit News – Wed May 18, 1:27 pm ET

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Ron French, Detroit News staff writer

A Michigan man who won $2 million in a state lottery game continues to collect food stamps 11 months after striking it rich.

And there's nothing the state can do about it, at least for now.

Leroy Fick, 59, of Auburn won $2 million in the state lottery TV show "Make Me Rich!" last June. But the state's Department of Human Services determined he was still eligible for food stamps, Fick's attorney, John Wilson of Midland, said Tuesday.

Eligibility for food stamps is based on gross income and follows federal guidelines; lottery winnings are considered liquid assets and don't count as income. As long as Fick's gross income stays below the eligibility requirement for food stamps, he can receive them, even if he has a million dollars in the bank.

Food stamps are paid for through tax dollars and are meant to help support low-income families.

"If you're going to try to make me feel bad, you're not going to do it," Fick told WNEM-TV in Saginaw on Monday.

Wilson said Fick told the DHS officials he'd won $2 million but was told he could keep using the Bridge Card issued to him to buy groceries.

Fick could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Al Kimichik, director of the office of inspector general for DHS, said the department could not comment on individual cases but that it this week began the process of requesting a waiver from the federal government to close the lottery loophole. If it is granted, assets would be counted in determining food stamp eligibility.

Though the food stamp program is federal and states must follow U.S. guidelines, states sometimes request waivers of rules. Michigan was granted a waiver recently to stop college students from qualifying for food stamps.

"For Leroy Fick to continue to use a Bridge Card, paid for by the taxpayers, after winning the lottery, is obscene," said Sen. Rick Jones, R-Grand Ledge. "What a waste of taxpayer money."

Jones contacted DHS officials Monday about Fick's case, and was told the department's hands were tied by federal regulations.

"There is no liquid asset requirement for getting food stamps," Jones said. "The department is asking the federal government for an immediate change (in policy). They're hoping this case will help the federal government act."

Until then, Fick can collect food stamps and keep his lottery winnings in the bank.

"I am not going to sit and debate the ethics of this," Wilson said. "But from his standpoint, he did what he was supposed to do -- he informed the state, and the state said he could keep using the card. The problem is with the state."


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zap
18th May 2011, 07:53 PM
Ridiculous, what the hell is the matter with that guy. Food stamps are for people who really need the help not a millionaire.

General of Darkness
18th May 2011, 08:23 PM
Well the law is pretty damn clear. It's based on income, so based on the law he's within his legal right. The issue is ethics, and the vast majority of kwans in the U.S. lost ethics during the 70's.

On a side note, anyone with the name Leroy should be shot in the face with a bazooka. Just saying. ;D

EDIT - Just to be clear, this guy is a perfect example of a POS, but looking at the picture, he might be retarded.

willie pete
18th May 2011, 09:01 PM
Well the law is pretty damn clear. It's based on income, so based on the law he's within his legal right. The issue is ethics, and the vast majority of kwans in the U.S. lost ethics during the 70's.

On a side note, anyone with the name Leroy should be shot in the face with a bazooka. Just saying. ;D

EDIT - Just to be clear, this guy is a perfect example of a POS, but looking at the picture, he might be retarded.




....and I'd almost bet you the family birth-name before it was changed was flickmansteinberg.... :D

ShortJohnSilver
18th May 2011, 09:50 PM
He won $2 million but how much of that did he pay in taxes? Nearly $1million I guess ... thus the state is still far ahead.

This is not a case where you shout "personal responsiblity" - it is a case where you point out the moronic nature of the food stamp program and push for its end.

Publico Pro Se
19th May 2011, 05:45 AM
He's just making the system swirl down the crapper that much faster.

7th trump
19th May 2011, 06:05 AM
Ridiculous, what the hell is the matter with that guy. Food stamps are for people who really need the help not a millionaire.

Yeah so what!
If the government doesnt tell the American People that getting a ssn is voluntary and basically trick the People into getting a ssn so the government can legally and lawfully fleese the people for literally trillions in tax money each year which also takes away Rights protected by the US Constitution then I say f*&k this form of government.
More power to you to take more if you can!

undgrd
19th May 2011, 06:33 AM
Maybe he's trying to prove a point? Maybe he's trying to point out the hole in the law???

Tumbleweed
19th May 2011, 06:45 AM
It sounds to me like they are going to use this one very rare occurance to change the law. Then when a person falls on hard times they will be stripped of anything they posses and put on the street. When it comes to waste the politicians have no equal. I'd rather strip the politicians of most of their income and benifits, bring the military home, stop giving money away to foreign countrys and stop the elite from robbing us. The little bit he gets from food stamps is nothing compared to the waste of money we are forced to give bankers, politicians then have to pay for the decisions they make.

This country is going down the shitter and we're worried about one littlle old guy getting some food stamps. Hell I bet he can't eat very much. We need to cut these bastard politicians off and the bankers and corporations that own them. They're the ones that need to go hungry >:(

Son-of-Liberty
19th May 2011, 06:47 AM
While it is ridiculous that he is eligible he probably paid more in taxes on his lottery winnings then most that get food stamps do in their entire lives. He is just getting a little back.

I personally wouldn't do this but at this point it doesn't matter the system is so broken only collapse will fix it.

DMac
19th May 2011, 07:32 AM
Well the law is pretty damn clear. It's based on income, so based on the law he's within his legal right. The issue is ethics, and the vast majority of kwans in the U.S. lost ethics during the 70's.

On a side note, anyone with the name Leroy should be shot in the face with a bazooka. Just saying. ;D

EDIT - Just to be clear, this guy is a perfect example of a POS, but looking at the picture, he might be retarded.


What's a kwan?

General of Darkness
19th May 2011, 08:33 AM
Well the law is pretty damn clear. It's based on income, so based on the law he's within his legal right. The issue is ethics, and the vast majority of kwans in the U.S. lost ethics during the 70's.

On a side note, anyone with the name Leroy should be shot in the face with a bazooka. Just saying. ;D

EDIT - Just to be clear, this guy is a perfect example of a POS, but looking at the picture, he might be retarded.


What's a kwan?


Used by many, as "a worthless piece of $hit."
Can be used as a verb as a replacement of the word "F*ck"
He is such a mother fucking kwan