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AndreaGail
19th May 2011, 08:24 AM
Bill would make it tougher for workers to tap 401(k)
6:14 a.m. CDT, May 19, 2011
Congress wants to make it tougher for workers to tap their 401(k) retirement funds -- and to make it easier for them to repay those loans when they do.

Sen. Herb Kohl, a Wisconsin Democrat and Sen. Mike Enzi, a Wyoming Republican filed the bill Wednesday with an eye toward protecting 401(k)s, a critical means of saving for retirement for millions of Americans.

Herb Kohl In 2010, nearly 28% of those with 401(k)s had loans outstanding on them, a record high, according to a recent study by Aon Hewitt, a consulting firm owned by Aon Corp. The average loan was $7,860.

“While having access to a loan in an emergency is an important feature for many participants, a 401(k) savings account should not be used as a piggy bank,“ Kohl said in a statement.

The bill would limit workers to taking out no more than three loans from their retirement funds. Currently, employers decide how many loans workers can take.

It would also ban the use of 401(k) debit cards, which, while uncommon, make it much too easy to raid retirement funds, said Kohl's spokesman Joe Bonfiglio.

It would also allow employees with outstanding 401(k) loans more time to repay their loans without facing penalties. Most employees face steep tax penalties, including income tax and other penalties, if they don't pay back their 401(k) loans within two months of leaving a job.

The penalties are there to discourage employees from raiding retirement funds in the first place. But the penalties also make it hard for recently laid off workers to get back on their feet, Bonfiglio said.

“Paying back a loan after just losing your job can be difficult, so our bill would give people more time to pay themselves back,“ Kohl said.

The bill would allow employees more time to repay the 401(k) loans penalty free, by giving them the option to repay their loan into an IRA by April 15th of the following year.

Those who are unemployed with 401(k) loans outstanding could also continue making voluntary contributions into their 401(k) plan for six months after they lose their job.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chibrkbus-bill-would-make-it-tougher-for-workers-to-tap-401k-20110519,0,770154.story#tugs_story_display

Ares
19th May 2011, 08:28 AM
I stopped contributing to that joke of a retirement account back in 2007 after I woke up and realized it's not mine and most likely will be used by the government to continue funding itself once the game is up.

If I ever leave my job that money is mine, I'll take it penalty and all and close the account.

Ponce
19th May 2011, 08:57 AM
All that the government is doing it to protect "their" money.....I like this part "If you are unemployed you can contribute up to six months after".........with what?

You people with a 401 are FU*K.....get out now while there is something to get...even 60% is better than nothing.

First post of the day.........good morning to one and all.

madfranks
19th May 2011, 09:18 AM
Liars! They just want to make sure to keep as much of that money tied up as possible before they eventually seize it all. They know it's coming and they want to make sure they can bleed every dime out of private retirement funds. Of course, it's all in the name of "protecting" the money, right.

chad
19th May 2011, 09:30 AM
they know the tidal wave is coming + that people are going to begin withdrawing in masse in the next 12-18 months.

drafter
19th May 2011, 10:26 AM
I stopped contributing to that joke of a retirement account back in 2007 after I woke up and realized it's not mine and most likely will be used by the government to continue funding itself once the game is up.

If I ever leave my job that money is mine, I'll take it penalty and all and close the account.


That's exactly what I did in 2008. When i left the company I had worked at for nearly 20 years I could see the writing on the wall and cashed that sucker out before things could go further downhill. I used the money to open my own business.

Twisted Titan
19th May 2011, 10:40 AM
JUST ANOTHER FRIENDLY REMINDER FROM THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY OWN "YOUR" MONEY

ShortJohnSilver
19th May 2011, 05:51 PM
Just like Brother Twisty has said in the past, "they will change the rules" ...