gunDriller
21st May 2011, 11:51 AM
Remember Fast Times at Ridgemont High, the scene where the teacher asks Sean Penn/ Spicoli what he's doing ? He answers, "Learning bout Cuba, having some food."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd4ZbEATetg
"Mr. Spicoli, You're on Dangerous Ground Here." ;D
I'm not eating a cheese & sausage pizza. Today's lunch is grilled beef, pork bacon, beans & wheat with cheese, and vegetables ... potatoes, carrots, canned asparagus from Peru.
Instead of learning 'bout Cuba, I'm learning 'bout -
* Antique Silver
* Silver Plating
* Books about Silver Hallmarks & Antique Silver
So, I'm at the beginning of my learning curve. (Translation - I know very little.)
But I'm not going to let that stop me because this stuff is SOOOOO pretty !
http://www.spencermarks.com/assets/images/L0105.jpg
I bought some silver silverware at a garage sale. You would think I would learn. I buy some nice silver plated stuff, all the way home I'm frothing, "Oh Man, I just got 10 pounds of silver for $50" ... then I do the hallmark search and find I have ... some nice silver plated stuff.
That's happened 3 times now. ;D
http://www.spencermarks.com/
Spencer Marks has a lot of nice stuff. But they charge retail.
http://www.spencermarks.com/assets/images/L0105_creamer_and_sugar.jpg
Cream & Sugar with your Coffee ?
William Rogers & International Silver are 2 of the more widespread brands. Rogers was an American silversmith in the 1800's. International Silver bought the brand ... "IS" - their hallmark - was started in 1898, then bought by some other big corporation a decade or 2 ago.
A good description of the Wm. Rogers Silver brand -
http://www.centennialantiques.com/WmRogers.html
"Wm. Rogers (William Rogers), 1801 - 1973, was a master American silversmith and a pioneer in the silverplate industry. It can be confusing to identify silver marked Wm. Rogers because his prestigious name was appropriated by many companies both in his lifetime and for generations after.
At least six interrelated lines of silverplate have been marked Wm. Rogers.
1. The mark 1865 Wm. Rogers was used by Rogers himself in 1865.
2. The mark Wm. Rogers surrounded by a star and eagle was used by William Rogers between 1825 to 1841 on his coin silver spoons. From 1878 to 1893, after the death of William Sr., it was used by Simpson, Hall, Miller and Company after they signed an agreement with Wm. Rogers Jr. This mark was used again off and on from the late 1800s until at least 1939 by the International Silver Co.
3. The mark Wm. Rogers Mfg Co was used after 1865 by William and his son William Jr. and later by the International Silver Company.
4. The mark Wm. Rogers and Son followed by a star was used from around 1856-1861. "
etc. but that doesn't mean that if you buy some nice silver item with the "Eagle - Wm Rogers - Star" hallmark that you have a solid silver piece. If it has an "IS" after it, what you have is most likely silver-plated.
I did find out the thickness of the silver plate - .000150 to .00125. 150 microinches to a little over a thousandth of an inch.
If you have true antique, which was made when silver was cheaper, they may have thrown on a full .001 inches. Then you would need 1000 square inches of area to end up with 1 cubic inch - which would be about 5 Troy ounces of silver.
http://www.24carat.co.uk/frame.php?url=densityofgoldandothermetalsframe.htm l
If I add up all my silver plated pieces, maybe I have 400 square inches of surface area - so, about 2 ounces of silver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd4ZbEATetg
"Mr. Spicoli, You're on Dangerous Ground Here." ;D
I'm not eating a cheese & sausage pizza. Today's lunch is grilled beef, pork bacon, beans & wheat with cheese, and vegetables ... potatoes, carrots, canned asparagus from Peru.
Instead of learning 'bout Cuba, I'm learning 'bout -
* Antique Silver
* Silver Plating
* Books about Silver Hallmarks & Antique Silver
So, I'm at the beginning of my learning curve. (Translation - I know very little.)
But I'm not going to let that stop me because this stuff is SOOOOO pretty !
http://www.spencermarks.com/assets/images/L0105.jpg
I bought some silver silverware at a garage sale. You would think I would learn. I buy some nice silver plated stuff, all the way home I'm frothing, "Oh Man, I just got 10 pounds of silver for $50" ... then I do the hallmark search and find I have ... some nice silver plated stuff.
That's happened 3 times now. ;D
http://www.spencermarks.com/
Spencer Marks has a lot of nice stuff. But they charge retail.
http://www.spencermarks.com/assets/images/L0105_creamer_and_sugar.jpg
Cream & Sugar with your Coffee ?
William Rogers & International Silver are 2 of the more widespread brands. Rogers was an American silversmith in the 1800's. International Silver bought the brand ... "IS" - their hallmark - was started in 1898, then bought by some other big corporation a decade or 2 ago.
A good description of the Wm. Rogers Silver brand -
http://www.centennialantiques.com/WmRogers.html
"Wm. Rogers (William Rogers), 1801 - 1973, was a master American silversmith and a pioneer in the silverplate industry. It can be confusing to identify silver marked Wm. Rogers because his prestigious name was appropriated by many companies both in his lifetime and for generations after.
At least six interrelated lines of silverplate have been marked Wm. Rogers.
1. The mark 1865 Wm. Rogers was used by Rogers himself in 1865.
2. The mark Wm. Rogers surrounded by a star and eagle was used by William Rogers between 1825 to 1841 on his coin silver spoons. From 1878 to 1893, after the death of William Sr., it was used by Simpson, Hall, Miller and Company after they signed an agreement with Wm. Rogers Jr. This mark was used again off and on from the late 1800s until at least 1939 by the International Silver Co.
3. The mark Wm. Rogers Mfg Co was used after 1865 by William and his son William Jr. and later by the International Silver Company.
4. The mark Wm. Rogers and Son followed by a star was used from around 1856-1861. "
etc. but that doesn't mean that if you buy some nice silver item with the "Eagle - Wm Rogers - Star" hallmark that you have a solid silver piece. If it has an "IS" after it, what you have is most likely silver-plated.
I did find out the thickness of the silver plate - .000150 to .00125. 150 microinches to a little over a thousandth of an inch.
If you have true antique, which was made when silver was cheaper, they may have thrown on a full .001 inches. Then you would need 1000 square inches of area to end up with 1 cubic inch - which would be about 5 Troy ounces of silver.
http://www.24carat.co.uk/frame.php?url=densityofgoldandothermetalsframe.htm l
If I add up all my silver plated pieces, maybe I have 400 square inches of surface area - so, about 2 ounces of silver.