Rapture boy, Camping, says October 21. This time we go up for sure!!!

[ximmy]

OAKLAND, Calif. – A California preacher who foretold of the world's end only to see the appointed day pass with no extraordinarily cataclysmic event has revised his apocalyptic prophecy, saying he was off by five months and the Earth actually will be obliterated on Oct. 21.
Harold Camping, who predicted that 200 million Christians would be taken to heaven Saturday before catastrophe struck the planet, apologized Monday evening for not having the dates "worked out as accurately as I could have."
He spoke to the media at the Oakland headquarters of his Family Radio International, which spent millions of dollars_ some of it from donations made by followers — on more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the Judgment Day message.
It was not the first time Camping was forced to explain when his prediction didn't come to pass. The 89-year-old retired civil engineer also prophesied the Apocalypse would come in 1994, but said later that didn't happen then because of a mathematical error.
Through chatting with a friend over what he acknowledged was a very difficult weekend, it dawned on him that instead of the biblical Rapture in which the faithful would be swept up to the heavens, May 21 had instead been a "spiritual" Judgment Day, which places the entire world under Christ's judgment, he said.
The globe will be completely destroyed in five months, he said, when the apocalypse comes. But because God's judgment and salvation were completed on Saturday, there's no point in continuing to warn people about it, so his network will now just play Christian music and programs until the final end on Oct. 21.
"We've always said May 21 was the day, but we didn't understand altogether the spiritual meaning," he said. "The fact is there is only one kind of people who will ascend into heaven ... if God has saved them they're going to be caught up."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110524/ap_on_re_us/us_apocalypse_saturday

[General of Darkness]

Well it's closer to Elinin, so we might be all dead anyways.

[Camp Bassfish]

Hmm..."Camping"...I'm Camp Bassfish...and my birthday is Oct 21st..... Hmmmm???

[Cobalt]

I heard where he called the event that didn't happen "invisible" so I decided I was going to make him an invisible donation :D

[gunDriller]

you never know. maybe May 21 was Judgment Day, and we have all been judged.

but it's not like God is going to swoop down in a Flaming Chariot and show us each what's in our personal manila folder ... or God's version of a manila folder.

i would like to see Camping open up and tell us how he came up with the May 21 date.

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

So.... he needs a DOOMover??? ::)

[Twisted Titan]

I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW MANY TRACT PUSHERS ARE GOING DO IT AGAIN

FLEECING IS TOO GOOD A WORD FOR THEM

[Horn]

but it's not like God is going to swoop down in a Flaming Chariot and show us each what's in our personal manila folder ... or God's version of a manila folder.


Folks I'm starting to get visions of manila folders from heaven.

This can't be good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky-l6mdig0o

[ximmy]

;) fixed it...

[willie pete]

Hmm..."Camping"...I'm Camp Bassfish...and my birthday is Oct 21st..... Hmmmm???



You better Set That Hook.....Quick Bro..... :D

[solid]

Hmm..."Camping"...I'm Camp Bassfish...and my birthday is Oct 21st..... Hmmmm???


Oh man..you are doomed. If I were you, I'd repent, sell all your belongings and give the money to Camping. Be saved that day. You won't have anything left and will be left camping in a tent, the three camps...Camp Bassfish and Harold Camping go camping on Oct. 21. It is your destiny. :)

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

;) fixed it...


has anyone been to

http://www.wecanknow.com/

????

LOL

http://www.wecanknow.com/css/images/header_logo_15.jpg

That is still at the top of the page.


Man if that ain't the mother of all egg faces.

ANd they go at it AGAIN?

[gunDriller]

i wonder if anybody sold insurance policies to the 5-21 Rapturists.

and, if so, if the insurance company doing the underwriting was owned by J-J-J ... having trouble getting it out :o

[wrs]

This is why you can't take Christianity seriously, the adherents are always predicting some kind of crap that never happens. Of course they claim that the bible is full of predictions that were fulfilled but it was written after the fact and since the believers are such bad predictors themselves, whey should anyone believe what their book says?

The whole rapture theology is just made up crap anyway but so is most of what Christians believe. I sure can't take their beliefs seriously, especially the need for salvation and the existence of Satan, hell and heaven.

John Lennon had it closer to right than any Christian preacher.

[Serpo]

,

[StreetsOfGold]

but it's not like God is going to swoop down in a Flaming Chariot and show us each what's in our personal manila folder ... or God's version of a manila folder.


Not a flaming chariot but you're close

2Thess. 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Thess. 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Thess. 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

[keehah]

but it's not like God is going to swoop down in a Flaming Chariot and show us each what's in our personal manila folder ... or God's version of a manila folder.

Many look to the past to help predict the future. Of course one needs more than that. At least with the new date we are passing through a comets tail within a month or so.

http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/3451/the-deadly-sting-of-a-comet-tail

13,000 years ago the Earth was struck by thousands of Tunguska-sized cometary fragments over the course of an hour, leading to a dramatic cooling of the planet, according to astronomer Professor Bill Napier of the Cardiff University Astrobiology Centre. He presents his new model in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society.

The cooling, by as much as 8 degrees C, interrupted the warming which was occurring at the end of the last ice age and caused glaciers to re-advance. Evidence has been found that this catastrophic change was associated with some extraordinary extraterrestrial event.

The boundary is marked by the occurrence of a “black mat” layer a few centimeters thick found at many sites throughout the United States containing high levels of soot indicative of continental-scale wildfires, as well as microscopic hexagonal diamonds (nanodiamonds) which are produced by shocks and are only found in meteorites or craters.

[Book]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Nightline/ap_applewhite_080622_ssh.jpg

Mass suicide and aftermath

On March 19-20, 1997, Marshall Applewhite taped himself speaking of mass suicide and asserted "it was the only way to evacuate this Earth". The Heaven's Gate group was against suicide but they believed they had no choice but to leave Earth as quickly as possible. After claiming that a space craft was trailing the comet Hale-Bopp, Applewhite convinced 38 followers to commit suicide so that their souls could board the supposed craft. Applewhite believed that after their deaths, a UFO would take their souls to another "level of existence above human", which Applewhite described as being both physical and spiritual. This and other UFO-related beliefs held by the group have led some observers to characterize the group as a type of UFO religion. In October 1996, the group purchased alien abduction insurance to cover up to 50 members at a cost of $10,000.[13]

The cult rented a 9,200-sq.-ft. mansion, located at 18241 Colina Norte (later changed to Paseo Victoria), in a gated community of upscale homes in the San Diego-area community of Rancho Santa Fe, California from Sam Koutchesfahani, paying $7,000 per month in cash.[14] The thirty-eight Heaven's Gate members, plus group leader Applewhite, were found dead in the home on March 26, 1997. In the heat of the California spring, many of the bodies had begun to decompose by the time they were discovered. The corpses underwent autopsies, where cyanide and arsenic were found. The bodies were later cremated.

The suicide was accomplished by ingestion of phenobarbital mixed with applesauce or pudding, washed down with vodka. Additionally, plastic bags were secured around their heads after ingesting the mix to induce asphyxiation. Authorities found the dead lying neatly in their own bunk beds, faces and torsos covered by a square, purple cloth. Each member carried a five dollar bill and three quarters in their pockets. All 39 were dressed in identical black shirts and sweat pants, brand new black-and-white Nike Windrunner athletic shoes, and armband patches reading "Heaven's Gate Away Team" (one of many instances of the group's use of the Star Trek fictional universe's nomenclature). The adherents, between the ages of 26 and 72, are believed to have died in three groups over three successive days, with remaining participants cleaning up after each prior group's death.[15] Fifteen members died on March 24, fifteen more on March 25, and nine on March 26. Leader Applewhite was the third to last member to die; two women remained after him and were the only ones found without bags over their heads. Among the dead was Thomas Nichols, brother of Nichelle Nichols who is best known for her role as Uhura in the Star Trek television series[16] .

One of the group's members did not kill himself: weeks before the suicides Rio Di Angelo agreed with Applewhite to leave the group so he could ensure future dissemination of Heaven's Gate videos and literature. He videotaped the mansion in Rancho Santa Fe; however, the tape was not shown to police until 2002, five years after the event.

The mass death of the Heaven's Gate group was widely publicized in the media as an example of cult suicide.[17]

Two former members of Heaven's Gate, Wayne Cooke and Charlie Humphreys, later committed suicide in a similar manner to the group. Humphreys had survived a suicide pact with Cooke in May 1997, but successfully committed suicide in February 1998.[18][19]

Heaven's Gate (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_%28cult%29)

:morph:

[Serpo]

He has got the eyes... ;D

Yea that heavens gate was doing so well and then it seemed to just die out.............

But hey it looks like they where right...........its been down hill ever since.... ;D

[Spectrism]

you never know. maybe May 21 was Judgment Day, and we have all been judged.

but it's not like God is going to swoop down in a Flaming Chariot and show us each what's in our personal manila folder ... or God's version of a manila folder.

i would like to see Camping open up and tell us how he came up with the May 21 date.


Yo, dude.... he published a FREE book and numerous short dissertation on that. All you had to do was go to the website and download.

[Spectrism]

This is why you can't take Christianity seriously, the adherents are always predicting some kind of crap that never happens. Of course they claim that the bible is full of predictions that were fulfilled but it was written after the fact and since the believers are such bad predictors themselves, whey should anyone believe what their book says?

The whole rapture theology is just made up crap anyway but so is most of what Christians believe. I sure can't take their beliefs seriously, especially the need for salvation and the existence of Satan, hell and heaven.

John Lennon had it closer to right than any Christian preacher.


You are about as dead wrong as anybody could possibly be. You are standing on a bridge a mile high over a rocky gorge. Your feet are firmly planted on a heavy, oil-soaked railroad tie between steel rails. You are mocking the people at the end of the bridge who are warning all. You say- there is no train. Suddenly, there is no YOU.

[keehah]

You are about as dead wrong as anybody could possibly be. You are standing on a bridge a mile high over a rocky gorge. Your feet are firmly planted on a heavy, oil-soaked railroad tie between steel rails. You are mocking the people at the end of the bridge who are warning all. You say- there is no train. Suddenly, there is no YOU.


In the spirit of the analogy..... Its the generations of men who codified other's thinking into a 'bridge to nowhere' and consumed much of the natural resources doing so who really deserve credit for the loss of 'I'. Those who did not follow these rails I expect don't have such strong nightmares about the rail road to space.

All who did not get on the rail road are not standing safely on the ground though. Many are drifting around in the breezes and tumbling down slopes.

[wrs]

You are about as dead wrong as anybody could possibly be. You are standing on a bridge a mile high over a rocky gorge. Your feet are firmly planted on a heavy, oil-soaked railroad tie between steel rails. You are mocking the people at the end of the bridge who are warning all. You say- there is no train. Suddenly, there is no YOU.

No, it is you that is wrong. You can keep your beliefs but don't try to push your view of the world on me, it's not realistic and it doesn't explain anything, all it does is make excuses for why your life is such shit. Living as a "Christian" is one of the biggest mistakes a person can make, you live in a small box and have no idea what happens when you die. All the claims about Christ returning and heaven and hell are just diversions to keep you from paying attention to life while you are here. That is the aim of the Christian religion, to keep people from finding the meaning of life by concentrating on something they cannot see or know while they are embodied.

Sorry, you are the one wasting your time and walking on slippery rails to nowhere.

[keehah]

A 'bridge to nowhere' can keep one above the valley of despair.

[sirgonzo420]

A 'bridge to nowhere' can keep one above the valley of despair.


"bridge to nowhere"


"stairway to heaven"

[Awoke]

Starting to feel like a broken record here...








But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone



In regards to this:



This is why you can't take Christianity seriously, the adherents are always predicting some kind of crap that never happens.

That is the point. Camping is doing his best to discredit Christianity completely, and has been from the start.
That is his mission.

Just because he says he is Christian doesn't mean he actually is.

[SHTF2010]

can't find it now, but i saw a t-shirt pic somewhere on the net





THE RAPTURE HAPPENED

you didn't make it

[wrs]

Just because he says he is Christian doesn't mean he actually is.

The old no True Scotsman fallacy. You may not be a Christian by the same token. It's so amazingly funny to watch you make that argument not realizing the fallacy of your own belief is exposed in that statement. You have no absolute way to determine who is or is not a Christian other than by their own claims and the same applies to yourself. Sorry, that dog doesn't hunt for people outside your mindset. To us, he is just another nut and so are you, your claims about judgment and sin are as specious as his are about the rapture. That is my basic argument against Christianity, it is just a mishmash of unsupported claims.


Camping is doing his best to discredit Christianity completely, and has been from the start.

You do just as good a job in my view.

[gunDriller]

So.... he needs a DOOMover??? ::)


maybe he should take up hot-air ballooning.

if he wants to go up into the sky, that would be one way to do it.

then, theoretically, he would closer to God, right ?

maybe GIM-radio can interview him :sarc:

[Awoke]

Just because he says he is Christian doesn't mean he actually is.

The old no True Scotsman fallacy. You may not be a Christian by the same token. It's so amazingly funny to watch you make that argument not realizing the fallacy of your own belief is exposed in that statement. You have no absolute way to determine who is or is not a Christian other than by their own claims and the same applies to yourself. Sorry, that dog doesn't hunt for people outside your mindset. To us, he is just another nut and so are you, your claims about judgment and sin are as specious as his are about the rapture. That is my basic argument against Christianity, it is just a mishmash of unsupported claims.


Camping is doing his best to discredit Christianity completely, and has been from the start.

You do just as good a job in my view.


The only thing I would like to say in response to this is that I base my faith and belief on Scripture. That is what makes me a true Christian.
Harold Camping cannot say the same thing.


You have such hatred and discontent for Christianity that nothing else I say will matter to you anyways, so good luck to you on your journey through life. (Not being sarcastic)

[sirgonzo420]

So.... he needs a DOOMover??? ::)


clever, sir!

[ximmy]

Bridge to nowhere... still stands... :P

The Bridge to Nowhere is an arch bridge that was built in 1936 north of Azusa, California in the San Gabriel Mountains. It spans the East Fork of the San Gabriel River and was meant to be part of a road connecting the San Gabriel Valley with Wrightwood. The East Fork Road was still under construction when it was washed out during the great flood of March 1–2, 1938. The East Fork Road project was abandoned as a result of the flood, leaving the bridge forever stranded in the middle of what is now the Sheep Mountain Wilderness.

[gunDriller]

The cult rented a 9,200-sq.-ft. mansion, located at 18241 Colina Norte (later changed to Paseo Victoria), in a gated community of upscale homes in the San Diego-area community of Rancho Santa Fe, California from Sam Koutchesfahani, paying $7,000 per month in cash.[14] The thirty-eight Heaven's Gate members, plus group leader Applewhite, were found dead in the home on March 26, 1997.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Nightline/ap_applewhite_080622_ssh.jpg

i drove by that street every day for about 5 years.

[keehah]

The main stream media is covering Elenin again. ;)

10/14/2011
Harold Camping says the end of the world is definitely Oct. 21
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/harold-camping-says-the-end-of-the-world-is-definitely-oct-21/2011/10/14/gIQAThnEkL_blog.html

By Elizabeth Flock
Harold Camping, the Family Radio evangelist who wrongly predicted doomsday back in May, says the real end of the world is now Oct. 21.

In a message on his Web site, Camping declares that next Friday, “at this point, looks like it will be the final end of everything.”

Newser points out that Camping explains his May prediction mistake in another post on his site. May 21 was the “spiritual” End of the World, he says. As for the earthquakes he predicted, they apparently came in the form of “man-quakes,” since mankind shook with fear from the Rapture and the book of Genesis describes man as made from dirt.

Those who weren’t saved on May 21, Camping says, “will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on October 21, 2011.”

But Camping isn’t making any big promises this time.

“I really am beginning to think as I restudied these matters that there’s going to be no big display of any kind,” he said in an audio address after suffering a stroke in June. “The end is going to come very, very quietly.”

[gunDriller]

so, how does Rapture work ?

can Camping tie a rope to his waist and take along some of us heathens when he gets pulled up into the sky ?

if you get Raptured, and decide you don't like Camp Rapture, can you beam back to Earth ?

they need a Rapture Brochure to explain Camp Rapture.

[wrs]

so, how does Rapture work ?

can Camping tie a rope to his waist and take along some of us heathens when he gets pulled up into the sky ?

if you get Raptured, and decide you don't like Camp Rapture, can you beam back to Earth ?

they need a Rapture Brochure to explain Camp Rapture.

Ask five people get five answers, the new agers call it ascension. Google that term and you will find discussions similar to rapture but in those discussions Light Workers or STO people get to ascend while the others stick with some horrific version of planet earth. Interestingly enough, people that believe in doom and gloom like Christians get to stay behind on the hellish earth................

LOL! I just love dualism in all it's manifestations, it's so entertaining to see people get stuck thinking in false dichotomies.

[keehah]

so, how does Rapture work ?

The saved have separated themselves in the right way from the unsaved.
Often confused with 'slaved'.

Know the difference between the sensation of base chackra grounding and alien probe. Things could become more than a static situation.

[Twisted Titan]

Where are all the tract pushers?

I would love to catch one of them now.

but I can't seem to find one for grace

[Serpo]

http://iasos.com/audioclp/StairwayToHeaven-D-4d.jpg

[StreetsOfGold]

This is why you can't take Christianity seriously,

If you reject Christianity because of this, you're stupid! The Bible foretold HERETICS like this would come. The Bible is correct and EVERY man a LIAR

2Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Romans 3:4a God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

Let's also not forget the Bible declared people JUST LIKE YOU (WRS) would come around as well

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days SCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts,
2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. (not evilution)
2 Peter 3:5 For this they WILLINGLY are IGNORANT OF, that by THE WORD OF GOD ...

[Spectrism]

A while back I had a dream of the last day. I think I posted it here... moved to members only lounge.

It may not be this year, but it will likely be in the Fall season. The prophetic fulfillments of Messiah will be at the Fall feasts.

When you see the sky red, you can start shaking in your boots. You may have already wet your pants when you see events in the sky and the world is shaking apart with the seas roaring.

In those days, it will not be enough to respect God. If you are not personally known by the Messiah, you are lost. The lost will be tormented with demons and their tongues will speak blasphemy. Even as you see these things happening, you will be hardened to lie and blaspheme God.... denying the truth. Those who find second life before then will be saved.

[Twisted Titan]

Just in case camping is correct " this time" I wanted to say peace out to all Gsuser's

[Horn]

The saved have separated themselves in the right way from the unsaved.
Often confused with 'slaved'.

Yes, I see.

So the object is to remain wanton, to be saved?

Or Thus contributing for future raptures by remaining in a constant state of separating wheat from chaff, Great plan.

[Son-of-Liberty]

2 days till Armageddon......

This type of drivel (religious or not) is just a distraction.

Get people thinking that the end is near and they have no reason to fight for a better world.

[Spectrism]

2 days till Armageddon......

This type of drivel (religious or not) is just a distraction.

Get people thinking that the end is near and they have no reason to fight for a better world.

The world is a rotting piece of meat. Can you not see the corruption in every human? It is easy to see the forest by looking at the governments of humans. What would it take to save the world short of changing all the humans? Fight for a better world? I think we just fight for our daily existence.

[7th trump]

No such thing as the rapture.
What is being labeled as the "rapture" is the return of Christ after the fake or "antichrist" doing his job of fooling the world into worshipping him.
Havent seen the unlawful one better known as satan, the old dragon, the serpent, lucifer, the son of perdition standing in Jerusalem, doing miracles granted only by God to fool those who havent a clue they are woreshipping satan, claiming to be Christ Himself yet have we?
No we havent.............
This October date is an epic fail once again!

[StreetsOfGold]

Matthew 24:37 But AS the days of Noe were, SO shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luke 17:26 And AS it was in the days of Noe, SO shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

This is a typical similitude as is taught in scripture AS - SO AS (something is) SO (is something else)

Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

What happened BEFORE the flood? ENOCH WAS TRANSLATED OUT, Enoch is a PICTURE of the church taken OUT (raptured) BEFORE the destruction.

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Camping is a heretic is so many ways and I believe he is being "used" to make the rapture look stupid, not believable and a thing to be used by "the world" as a byword and a hissing.

[Spectrism]

Matthew 24:37 But AS the days of Noe were, SO shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luke 17:26 And AS it was in the days of Noe, SO shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

This is a typical similitude as is taught in scripture AS - SO AS (something is) SO (is something else)

Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

What happened BEFORE the flood? ENOCH WAS TRANSLATED OUT, Enoch is a PICTURE of the church taken OUT (raptured) BEFORE the destruction.

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Camping is a heretic is so many ways and I believe he is being "used" to make the rapture look stupid, not believable and a thing to be used by "the world" as a byword and a hissing.

Nope. Enoch was a special case and not the example of all believers. There are many believers world-wide dying in the flesh and being martyred. This is not what the scripture is saying.

In the days of Noah, the world had become thoroughly corrupt. Only those of Noah's family- sheltered within the faith of that man and his obedience to God, were saved from the flood. Those TAKEN in that day were taken by the flood to their destruction. The ark is a picture of salvation- being carried above the destruction. What is today's destruction? The consequence of sin = judgment before Almighty God.

[Gaillo]

Hey Christians...
How can you guys believe all that stuff when you can't even agree about what you read from the SAME BOOK? How many thousand different christian sects are there? How can you be so certain YOUR version is the right one? You're reading from the SAME BOOK and yet you disagree... ::)

I thought God's word (the Bible) was "Infallible" - the fact that it's written so poorly that there can be such major disagreement over what it even MEANS seems like a pretty big failing to me!

Good thing there is only one "holy" book in the world... it would be a HUGE mess if there was more than one book so people would have to figure out which one was the RIGHT one to disagree about the meaning of! Oh... wait... ;D

[Spectrism]

Hey Christians...
How can you guys believe all that stuff when you can't even agree about what you read from the SAME BOOK? How many thousand different christian sects are there? How can you be so certain YOUR version is the right one? You're reading from the SAME BOOK and yet you disagree... ::)

I thought God's word (the Bible) was "Infallible" - the fact that it's written so poorly that there can be such major disagreement over what it even MEANS seems like a pretty big failing to me!

Good thing there is only one "holy" book in the world... it would be a HUGE mess if there was more than one book so people would have to figure out which one was the RIGHT one to disagree about the meaning of! Oh... wait... ;D

Nice baiting Gaillo... but a very childish and ignorant rant. You mixed various concepts up without regard for truth or reality.

First concept- agreement. How many times do baseball (name any sport) fans watch the same play and disagree over the foul or ref's call? Perception and experience. We are all different. We have different levels of knowledge and different vision. The same bible is used and abused, read and misread, by many varying people. And we are not even consistent in ourselves.... i.e. we change our minds about how we understand things. For you to take that reality and attempt to use it as a wedge to belittle the bible is pitiful. It would be like saying that baseball is a false game because two fans saw a play differently.

Infallible and poorly written. The writing was done by mere men who were moved by God's Spirit. Their personalities show in the writing BUT the author is the Spirit and the supernatural message which is beyond human reasoning dominates. If you could write so "poorly" that millions of people would lay down their lives throughout history in honor of those words, I'd say you were amazing. How many years will your words last and what good will they do humanity?

People like you don't need more holy books. You have your own will and pride to cover that. I saw your name in the bible and I know what will be happening to you. Those who begin to see truth and respond to it are given a new name. Right now, your name sucks.

[7th trump]

Hey Christians...
How can you guys believe all that stuff when you can't even agree about what you read from the SAME BOOK? How many thousand different christian sects are there? How can you be so certain YOUR version is the right one? You're reading from the SAME BOOK and yet you disagree... ::)

I thought God's word (the Bible) was "Infallible" - the fact that it's written so poorly that there can be such major disagreement over what it even MEANS seems like a pretty big failing to me!

Good thing there is only one "holy" book in the world... it would be a HUGE mess if there was more than one book so people would have to figure out which one was the RIGHT one to disagree about the meaning of! Oh... wait... ;D
Its really noit written poorly...its just comes from different languages and slang.
Theres greek slang or what is called today "street". And theres street hebrew which was all translated in old English that today couldnt be comprehended correctly.

[7th trump]

Nope. Enoch was a special case and not the example of all believers. There are many believers world-wide dying in the flesh and being martyred. This is not what the scripture is saying.

In the days of Noah, the world had become thoroughly corrupt. Only those of Noah's family- sheltered within the faith of that man and his obedience to God, were saved from the flood. Those TAKEN in that day were taken by the flood to their destruction. The ark is a picture of salvation- being carried above the destruction. What is today's destruction? The consequence of sin = judgment before Almighty God.
As it was in the days of Noah........................Noah built an Ark to escape the flood that ultimately destroyed the giants that were byproducts of flesh and angelic mating.
The same angels are coming again, with satan this time, just as they were here in the days of Noah. This time satan and his angels are here for satan to play act as Christ to fool the world into beleiving satan is Christ.
Read Revelation and Mathew....its all in there.

[Horn]

it would be a HUGE mess if there was more than one book so people would have to figure out which one was the RIGHT one to disagree about the meaning of! Oh... wait... ;D

There is only one book, with 2 volumes.

The other one posts over at GIM.

[ximmy]

Hey Christians...
How can you guys believe all that stuff when you can't even agree about what you read from the SAME BOOK? How many thousand different christian sects are there? How can you be so certain YOUR version is the right one? You're reading from the SAME BOOK and yet you disagree... ::)

I thought God's word (the Bible) was "Infallible" - the fact that it's written so poorly that there can be such major disagreement over what it even MEANS seems like a pretty big failing to me!

Good thing there is only one "holy" book in the world... it would be a HUGE mess if there was more than one book so people would have to figure out which one was the RIGHT one to disagree about the meaning of! Oh... wait... ;D


Nice baiting Gaillo... but a very childish and ignorant rant. You mixed various concepts up without regard for truth or reality.

First concept- agreement. How many times do baseball (name any sport) fans watch the same play and disagree over the foul or ref's call? Perception and experience. We are all different. We have different levels of knowledge and different vision. The same bible is used and abused, read and misread, by many varying people. And we are not even consistent in ourselves.... i.e. we change our minds about how we understand things. For you to take that reality and attempt to use it as a wedge to belittle the bible is pitiful. It would be like saying that baseball is a false game because two fans saw a play differently.

Infallible and poorly written. The writing was done by mere men who were moved by God's Spirit. Their personalities show in the writing BUT the author is the Spirit and the supernatural message which is beyond human reasoning dominates. If you could write so "poorly" that millions of people would lay down their lives throughout history in honor of those words, I'd say you were amazing. How many years will your words last and what good will they do humanity?

People like you don't need more holy books. You have your own will and pride to cover that. I saw your name in the bible and I know what will be happening to you. Those who begin to see truth and respond to it are given a new name. Right now, your name sucks.

Actually, it's a good question.

One of the issues in varying opinions is that everyone and their mother has produced a study bible (for others to study).
Dake, Meyer, Jake, MacArthur, etc. Each one giving a slightly or totally different view of a passage, that fits each author's theological agenda, thus the confusion.

So instead of each person reading and studying the bible on their own, many are studying the commentary of others and making bold dogmatic adherences to the ideas and opinions of men. Zodhiates says this, Ryrie says that, Lucado says this.

Everyone should do their own homework and not simply quote the studies of others.

If each person were to use only the bible text and were asked to explain a passage, without aid or commentary, they would probably come to a more agreeable consensus, especially if they lived in the same sociological environment.
ximmy

[Joe King]

it would be a HUGE mess if there was more than one book so people would have to figure out which one was the RIGHT one to disagree about the meaning of! Oh... wait...

There is only one book, with 2 volumes.

The other one posts over at GIM.

Nicely played, Horn. lol

Books clapping man even thinks so. lol
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k278/jeffcannata/Man-clapping.gif

[madfranks]

Actually, it's a good question.

One of the issues in varying opinions is that everyone and their mother has produced a study bible (for others to study).
Dake, Meyer, Jake, MacArthur, etc. Each one giving a slightly or totally different view of a passage, that fits each author's theological agenda, thus the confusion.

So instead of each person reading and studying the bible on their own, many are studying the commentary of others and making bold dogmatic adherences to the ideas and opinions of men. Zodhiates says this, Ryrie says that, Lucado says this.

Everyone should do their own homework and not simply quote the studies of others.

If each person were to use only the bible text and were asked to explain a passage, without aid or commentary, they would probably come to a more agreeable consensus, especially if they lived in the same sociological environment.
ximmy

I agree, Ximmy, and some members of the early church were commended for looking to the scriptures rather than the commentaries of man:


These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

My path to Christianity really presented itself when I began studying topics like the origin of the universe and the origin of life. I just couldn't comprehend how matter could come into existence by itself (big bang), or how something as complex as life could form from non-living matter. It was easier for me to believe that an external force outside the universe created it than that it created itself. I began to study all of the main religions (Judiasm, Christianity and Islam), as well as some secondary ones (Mormonism, etc), reading their books, attending their services and really honestly studying them. I found Christianity to be the most logical, and the Bible the most impressive of all the Holy books. Things like the medical knowledge provided by God to Moses (how to identify infectious disease, basic hygeine unknown to the cultures of the time) or the advanced (for the time) science found in Job (the earth is a sphere which "hangs upon nothing", description of the water cycle, etc), led me to believe that there was more to the Bible than silly superstitions and fairy tales. However, once I understood what salvation was and why we needed it, when I accepted Christ I felt a profound change in my spirit and my life. I can't explain it, and many people would say that it's all self-induced delusions, but to them all I can say is this:


For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

[Horn]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by 1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
"Saved" in that sentence more or less applies as source of spiritual food that's been freeze dried and stored, to be tithed at seen fit.

Maybe the preacher sees it differently, I don't know.

Maybe this is why Catholics wanted to keep the Bible out of my hands.

[sirgonzo420]

"Saved" in that sentence more or less applies as source of spiritual food that's been freeze dried and stored, to be tithed at seen fit.

Maybe the preacher sees it differently, I don't know.

Maybe this is why Catholics wanted to keep the Bible out of my hands.


Holy leftovers!

[StreetsOfGold]

Hey Christians...
How can you guys believe all that stuff when you can't even agree about what you read from the SAME BOOK? How many thousand different christian sects are there? How can you be so certain YOUR version is the right one? You're reading from the SAME BOOK and yet you disagree... ::)

I thought God's word (the Bible) was "Infallible" - the fact that it's written so poorly that there can be such major disagreement over what it even MEANS seems like a pretty big failing to me!

Good thing there is only one "holy" book in the world... it would be a HUGE mess if there was more than one book so people would have to figure out which one was the RIGHT one to disagree about the meaning of! Oh... wait... ;D

You're educated and you can read. You mean you can't tell when a man is lying to you? If one person says one thing about the Bible and another says something else then read it and see for yourself. There's no excuse unless you're a baby and expect someone to feed it to you.

[Awoke]

But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone



(Just reiterating to make it clear that this includes the Mayans)

[Spectrism]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jesus Christ in Matthew 24 verse 36

But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone




(Just reiterating to make it clear that this includes the Mayans)

The verse oft-used was spoken by a man at a time. Tell me the man and the time.

And in that verse, did He say noone would ever know?

And compare it with this one:

Mat 28:18 And coming up Jesus talked with them, saying, All authority in Heaven and on earth was given to Me.

[vacuum]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jesus Christ in Matthew 24 verse 36

But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone

Hm, you know I just realized something. Technically, this could mean that at the time it was written no one knew or could have known the day or hour. But that doesn't mean that someone in the end times couldn't figure it out. As you get closer and closer to the end, you can potentially get a more solid picture of the timeline.

[7th trump]

Hm, you know I just realized something. Technically, this could mean that at the time it was written no one knew or could have known the day or hour. But that doesn't mean that someone in the end times couldn't figure it out. As you get closer and closer to the end, you can potentially get a more solid picture of the timeline.
You are close Vacuum and have the right idea but you need to understand what to look for. In Revelation we are given a three day warning when Christ returns.
The two witnesses (possibly Moses and Elisha>>>>mispell), who give havoc to the fallen angels and satan are slane by satan in the steets of Jerusalem. This is prophetized to happen three days before Christs return (the 7th trumpet). Their slane bodies are to be put on display for three days. So we have a three day warning when Christ returns. may not be the exact hour or day but its written theres a three day warning before hand to expect the world to turn upside down (go back to normal) and the gnashing of teeth of those who were fooled.
Now a biblical day is recorded to start at 6 am (sun rise). You will be off by 6 hours if you dont understand what time frame God uses.
Also God warns to not be harvested out of season...............biblical harvest is "summer time", fresh fruit and vegetables are harvested at that time, and not the fall that we are used to when the farmers are out harvesting dead dried up corn and beans.
Christ is also written to return during the locust season................high summer!
So if a fake Christ appears it wont be high harvest summer during the locust season when the real returns. The fake will most likely appear in late winter or early spring as he has only 5 months to fool the earth into worshipping him so find the time the locust are out and subtract 5 months from that time frame and you have a close proximity to keep an eye out for the fake to appear. Therefore if you beleive (taking the number of the beast...666) this fake is the real mcCoy and worship him you will have been harvested out of season when the real Christ returns during high summer.
As a side note......when ever the Bible refers to satan it always done in months which is measured by full moons........lunar (night) as in lunatic. Christ is the exact opposite.....solar!
He will be easy to spot as he play acts as jesus christ while we are still in the flesh. Scripture has it that when the last trumpet is sounded we shed the flesh body and those who have already been here and gone come back. We will all be in the spiritual bodies to be able to see the real Christ at the 7th trump. So dont get fooled if you see a play actor while still being in the flesh.
This is what is called lifting the vail.

[Horn]

We will all be in the spiritual bodies to be able to see the real Christ at the 7th trump.

What comes after that, does it just fade to black?

Roll credits...

[Joe King]

What comes after that, does it just fade to black?


Roll credits...It's party time! http://fun.resplace.net/Emoticons/Food/IrishDancingBanana.gif

[7th trump]

What comes after that, does it just fade to black?

Roll credits...
A long ass correction with rod of iron for those who didnt make it is what comes after that. And after this correction satan is released from the pit for a short season to test them.
And after that its the great White Thrown Judgement..............satan and those who committed such crimes that arent forgiven and those who dont pass the second time after the correction are destroyed in the firely pit.......................uncreated, as in no longer exists!
Then the pit is destroyed and gone from existence and the memory of it wiped.................or "blotted" as its written in several places in the Bible.
Then its party time as the Law for those who overcame is willfully inscribed in their hearts to enjoy a life of eternity.

You asked!

[Horn]

You asked!

http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/17/1752/KOO3D00Z/art-print/hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil.jpg

[7th trump]

http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/17/1752/KOO3D00Z/art-print/hear-no-evil-see-no-evil-speak-no-evil.jpgNobody gets eternal life without first going through Christ.
lucifer that old dragon, the serpent, the son of perdition, the devil as some call him, satan, lost his very existence because his egotistical arrogence thought he could be Christ.
Hes a dead be-ing walking until hes put into the firey pit to be destroyed with fire from within.

[Awoke]

The verse oft-used was spoken by a man at a time. Tell me the man and the time.


The man was the Lord made Flesh, Jesus Christ.
The place was mount Olivet.
The time was during his Olivet discourse/sermon on the mount.



And in that verse, did He say noone would ever know?


If you continue reading, you will see that we will not know the time of His coming. Read it through to verse 44.




[36] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=36#x) But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.
[37] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=37#x) And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[38] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=38#x) For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark,
[39] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=39#x) And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.
[40] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=40#x) Then two shall be in the field: one shall be taken, and one shall be left. [41] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=41#x) Two women shall be grinding at the mill: one shall be taken, and one shall be left.
[42] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=42#x) Watch ye therefore, because ye know not what hour your Lord will come.
[43] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=43#x) But know this ye, that if the goodman of the house knew at what hour the thief would come, he would certainly watch, and would not suffer his house to be broken open.
[44] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=44#x) Wherefore be you also ready, because at what hour you know not the Son of man will come.



I think that's pretty straight-forward, don't you?



And compare it with this one:

Mat 28:18 And coming up Jesus talked with them, saying, All authority in Heaven and on earth was given to Me.


Compare it how? I never questioned Christ's authority.

[Awoke]

Hm, you know I just realized something. Technically, this could mean that at the time it was written no one knew or could have known the day or hour. But that doesn't mean that someone in the end times couldn't figure it out. As you get closer and closer to the end, you can potentially get a more solid picture of the timeline.

Do you think Angels and their Creator are bound by the limitations of time?

[Awoke]

Nobody gets eternal life without first going through Christ.


Truth.


lucifer... ...lost his very existence because his egotistical arrogence thought he could be Christ.
Hes a dead be-ing walking until hes put into the firey pit to be destroyed with fire from within.

I disgree. Satan is real and flourishing as the "prince of this world", as Jesus Christ called him.
Satan and his angels were cast out when they forsook their habitation, (Jude 1:6) but the Word says nothing about satan being made to un-exist until the only prophetic book in the NT, Revelation.

To say he does not exist is to let your guard down.

[Spectrism]

The man was the Lord made Flesh, Jesus Christ.
The place was mount Olivet.
The time was during his Olivet discourse/sermon on the mount.


Yes. The Word was made flesh. He called himself the Son of man- to verify that he was man, but He was also the only begotten Son of God. He spoke at a time when He was emptied of His glory in the form of man. Later, He is given full authority.




If you continue reading, you will see that we will not know the time of His coming. Read it through to verse 44.

[36] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=36#x) But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.
[37] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=37#x) And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[38] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=38#x) For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark,
[39] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=39#x) And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.
[40] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=40#x) Then two shall be in the field: one shall be taken, and one shall be left. [41] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=41#x) Two women shall be grinding at the mill: one shall be taken, and one shall be left.
[42] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=42#x) Watch ye therefore, because ye know not what hour your Lord will come.
[43] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=43#x) But know this ye, that if the goodman of the house knew at what hour the thief would come, he would certainly watch, and would not suffer his house to be broken open.
[44] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=44#x) Wherefore be you also ready, because at what hour you know not the Son of man will come.

I think that's pretty straight-forward, don't you?


If you look closely, you will see the first mention of time is DAY and hour. The second reference is to hour only. Notice also that the "unknowing" is a description of the lost people. Obviously Noah & family went into the ark ON THAT DAY and sealed it up.




Compare it how? I never questioned Christ's authority.


If all authority was given to Messiah on His resurrection, all knowledge was also given. He is no longer emptied of His glory. He went from being son of man to approved by YHWH to selected as the Passover Lamb to being the Lamb of God and is now the King of kings. There is nothing He does not know.

My indication of looking at the time and conditions of the verses you quoted was to point out the changes since then.

Dan 12:1 And at that time, Michael shall stand up, the great ruler who stands for the sons of your people. And there shall be a time of distress, such as has not been from the being of a nation until that time. And at that time, your people shall be delivered, everyone that shall be found written in the Book.
Dan 12:2 And many of those sleeping in the earth's dust shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproaches and to everlasting abhorrence.
Dan 12:3 And those who act wisely shall shine as the brightness of the firmament, and those turning many to righteousness as the stars forever and ever.
Dan 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, to the end time. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

[Awoke]

Spec, I get it. You're over-analyzing what I any saying here.

The point I am trying to make is that God alone knows the hour in which he will return.

The frikking Mayans don't, and Camping certainly doesn't either.

[Spectrism]

Spec, I get it. You're over-analyzing what I any saying here.

The point I am trying to make is that God alone knows the hour in which he will return.

The frikking Mayans don't, and Camping certainly doesn't either.

I will know the hour when He calls. Therefore, we must recognize that if we are still alive on the last day, there will come a time that we know for certain that the bridegroom is arriving. We are told to prepare and have sufficient oil for our lamps. The world will continue on as usual with the increase of perversion. We must not be conformed to the world.

Camping, in his own pride and his need to produce something, was driven down a path of putting mind over Spirit. Because he had that backwards, he could not see the truth clearly and relied on his mathological interpretation of biblical events. I don't fault him for searching out answers or being industrious in his studies. Like all of us, perhaps he let pride cloud his understanding.

[Awoke]

Yeah, well what you're saying is like saying "I will know the time I got hit by the car when it hits me".

I don't know why you are taking issue with this. The scriptures are clear. No one knows but God himself.

Yeah, you'll know when he comes, but you won't know before. The message is to live in such a fashion that if He appeared here right now, this very second, you would be acceptable to Him.

[keehah]

The message is to live in such a fashion that if He appeared here right now, this very second, you would be acceptable to Him.

A less passive, more actionable message would be to live in such a fashion that if He appeared here right now, this very second, he would be acceptable to me.
________

And "Rapture Boy" is a lightweight. Read all the first page comments too for full effect:

nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20110218 (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20110218.html)

[General of Darkness]

The end of days should ALWAYS happen on a Monday, right before I wake up for work. This whole rapture on a Friday just fucks up my weekend.

[Joe King]

The end of days should ALWAYS happen on a Monday, right before I wake up for work. This whole rapture on a Friday just fucks up my weekend.With that attitude, your weekends will most likely always be safe. :p

[Awoke]

A less passive, more actionable message would be to live in such a fashion that if He appeared here right now, this very second, he would be acceptable to me.

Am I reading that right?

You think God should conform to your standards?

[Joe King]

Looks like Keehahs weekends should be safe, too. :p

[Horn]

"Conform" & "live such a fashion" all such unnecessary actions since birth.

[keehah]

Am I reading that right?


You think God should conform to your standards?

God no. But then it depends.


What is the alternative? Conform to His standards?
My answer depends on the standards in play.

My (our) god involves acting towards your life and community and truth and harmony (and reduced excess entropy).

Does the commanding god (or those who promote him) promote and/or enforce our standards or his standards?
How reconcilable are harmony and life with the standards?
How reconcilable are truth (state of being) with the standards?

The state already has does a great job at being the conforming and standarding god. And do we not agree the standards are poor if not incompetent or just evil.
Instead of the same relationship with my creator, its nice to create with Him.


con·form - Comply with rules, standards, or laws.
Thread: conform to standards (http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2038719)

[Awoke]

I can make no sense out of that.

[Horn]

My (our) god involves acting towards your life and community and truth and harmony (and reduced excess entropy).


Reacting is suitable enough for me, besides if I start putting on a cape before I walk out the door, I might scare someone.

[keehah]

Reacting is suitable enough for me, besides if I start putting on a cape before I walk out the door, I might scare someone.
One must first wield the garbage bag before the cape!
Grab a garbage bag and pick up the trash in one's front yard and state roadway along one's block.

(Once one's neighbours see one almost get hit by traffic a few times, one's neighbour may gift one a reflective vest.)


I can make no sense out of that.
Absolutely!

[Horn]

One must first wield the garbage bag before the cape!
Grab a garbage bag and pick up the trash in one's front yard and state roadway along one's block.
Once that is mastered we can talk weeds and rats.
Absolutely!

Why are you suggesting that I would live in a dung heep, we all have noses.

Do you prey to a bug zapper?

[vacuum]

Do you think Angels and their Creator are bound by the limitations of time?
No I don't, I think they are outside of time and don't experience time like we do. However, I also don't think they can predict what free will choices we make. I think that every choice we makes branches possibilities, so at any point there are a range of probable futures. Maybe they see 100 different futures for humanity that all either virtually happened or really did happen. They can't tell use which version we ultimately end up in because the choice is ours.

However, 2000 years later they can look at the choices we've made and maybe narrow it down to 5 probable futures. So they could tell us the approx date with an accuracy of 20%, whereas before they could only guess at 1%.

[Awoke]

Keehah. Normally I would press for you to speak frankly, and lay out your stance on faith and God and whatever else, but I just can't seem to muster up the interest.

Your salvation is your decision. Someone here mentioned you are a member of the FMC.

[vacuum]

Whats the FMC?

[Awoke]

Freemasonic cult.

Others (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?25283-jewish-satanic-rituals-on-Oprah-Winfrey-Show&p=209208&viewfull=1#post209208)

[vacuum]

I'm in my 20's and spent most of my adult years in engineering school....I assure you I'm not a member of any cult, church, club, dating site, or anything else which would take time away from solving engineering problems.

(though in the last couple years I've entered the workforce which has given be a little more free time)

[keehah]

Why are you suggesting that I would live in a dung heep, we all have noses.

Do you prey to a bug zapper?
My compost pile is epic. But it cannot be seen from the front street.
Some dung heeps are for seeing, not smelling.

Prey to a bug zapper? Did we not learn anything in the Karma thread? I feed the local bug zappers and they flock to the place!

[Horn]

Zeus "the bug zapper God" is nowhere to be seen.

All is well, as was already the case.

Dance with druids, keehah.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKweZEKPSqw

[Awoke]

My apologies for the confusion Vacuum. I was actually talking to Keehah. I have gone back and edited the post to add his name.

[keehah]

Zeus "the bug zapper God" is nowhere to be seen.
Who controls the internet and TV?

http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/4000/4063/zeus_3_sm.gif
_________
Interview scene in Videodrome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qul-rDvU9QI

[sirgonzo420]

Who controls the internet and TV?

http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/4000/4063/zeus_3_sm.gif

jeus?

[Horn]

Who controls the internet and TV?

You do.

Is that too short?

Ok, even if you were zapped by your bug zapper God, I'd still see the dust & remember. ;D

[Joe King]

Who controls the internet and TV?

I'm not sure about TV, but doesn't Al Gore control the interwebs?

[keehah]

Al Gore is a God of the South wind (Notus).

Fresher than ever:

Blondie - Rapture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g

[7th trump]

Truth.



I disgree. Satan is real and flourishing as the "prince of this world", as Jesus Christ called him.
Satan and his angels were cast out when they forsook their habitation, (June 1:6) but the Word says nothing about satan being made to un-exist until the only prophetic book in the NT, Revelation.

To say he does not exist is to let your guard down.
Sorry Awoke I didnt realize after rereading my post that it does seem that I refer to satan as being perished............my bad, hes still around. In fact Micheal has him in chains as we speak.
What I meant by saying a dead be-ing walking is that hes already been convicted by God to be destroyed.
When hes booted to earth hes basically a dead be-ing walking.

[Awoke]

Why do you keep putting the hyphen there? (be-ing)

[Neuro]

I am still here, and I guess everyone around me are sinners unworthy of rapture, cause they are still here, but the day is still young.

Did any of you see anyone getting pulled up in heaven yet?

[Spectrism]

I am still here, and I guess everyone around me are sinners unworthy of rapture, cause they are still here, but the day is still young.

Did any of you see anyone getting pulled up in heaven yet?

Your post screams out your ignorance of what rapture and salvation are all about.

[Neuro]

Your post screams out your ignorance of what rapture and salvation are all about.

I'll be damned!

[DMac]

I am still here, and I guess everyone around me are sinners unworthy of rapture, cause they are still here, but the day is still young.

Did any of you see anyone getting pulled up in heaven yet?

Heaven's internet speed is amazing, talk about a new kind of fiber optic! I can't believe I'm the only one up here posting on GSUS.

http://keepingthefaith.standish.nl/images/FlyingMan.jpg

[Neuro]

Heaven's internet speed is amazing, talk about a new kind of fiber optic! I can't believe I'm the only one up here posting on GSUS.

http://keepingthefaith.standish.nl/images/FlyingMan.jpg

Congratulations! I'll doubt hell, where the rest of us are going apparently after earth is ended today, have even dial up connection. I can take some fire and brimstone, but what I really wonder is, what title would you get after 10k posts, after Iridium. I thought Ponce would get that one before the end of days. Now I'll end up wondering for all eternity...

Btw, did you see Qadaffi there?

[LastResort]

I'm planning on fishing tomorrow morning until about noon. So if the rapture happens tomorrow can we make it in the afternoon?

[Spectrism]

You fellas will be cursing the God you think doesn't exist.... very soon. And the more you curse and mock, the worse it will be for you. It is like the hitchhiker who refused to take a ride then cursing the driver that drove on. The road ahead will not be gentle.

[Neuro]

You fellas will be cursing the God you think doesn't exist.... very soon. And the more you curse and mock, the worse it will be for you. It is like the hitchhiker who refused to take a ride then cursing the driver that drove on. The road ahead will not be gentle.

Do you think Camping is a false prophet?

[Awoke]

From the Book of Jude:



[14] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=72&ch=1&l=14#x) Now of these Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying: Behold, the Lord cometh with thousands of his saints,

[15] (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=72&ch=1&l=15#x) To execute judgment upon all, and to reprove all the ungodly for all the works of their ungodliness, whereby they have done ungodly, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against God.



Gonzo. Who is your God?

[7th trump]

You fellas will be cursing the God you think doesn't exist.... very soon. And the more you curse and mock, the worse it will be for you. It is like the hitchhiker who refused to take a ride then cursing the driver that drove on. The road ahead will not be gentle.
No, its not going to be gentle. They will wish for the mountains to cover them as their shame, when the vail is lifted, is tremendous and then they will curse their very Creator who they didnt bother to take the time to know........gnashing of teeth!

[Awoke]

Post #102, 7th Trump.

[sirgonzo420]

From the Book of Jude:


Gonzo. Who is your God?

The only God there is.

Not the character from books, the real fuckin' deal.

[DMac]

Congratulations! I'll doubt hell, where the rest of us are going apparently after earth is ended today, have even dial up connection. I can take some fire and brimstone, but what I really wonder is, what title would you get after 10k posts, after Iridium. I thought Ponce would get that one before the end of days. Now I'll end up wondering for all eternity...

Btw, did you see Qadaffi there?


You are quite mistaken there Neuro, hell indeed has internet, but all but the chosen few run on 2400 baud dial up from what I saw in the papers up here. It's all a big joke how the angels make porn sites where the pictures are only 1/5th of the total image, so all the losers in hell on dial up sit there waiting and waiting for an image to load fully while it never will. Apparently this sort of shenanigan has been going on for years.

The Q man? He's not here. I caught a headline earlier that it was another body double. Believe it or not there's already 4 other Q-man doubles waiting at the gate.

[keehah]

I don't see why members need be much divided over this. I think there is room for most to worry about being 'underwater' soon

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/underwater

underwater [ˈʌndəˈwɔːtə]
1. (Earth Sciences / Physical Geography) being, occurring, or going under the surface of the water, esp the sea underwater exploration
2. (Transport / Nautical Terms) Nautical below the water line of a vessel
3. (Economics, Accounting & Finance / Stock Exchange) (of a stock option or other asset) having a market value below its purchase value.

There is much common ground when one sees any rapture as something that happens to the collective consciousness of a civilization or country. Right now it is taking place and is being observed by the public consciousness of most of the wester world.

At this forum we are united in seeing and participating in an unveiling. Most certainly feel 'caught up' in these groups that have 'gathered together in the air to meet .'

This is the Rapture! What year will it end? When most of those who don't want to see are forced to see and react.

And be proactive. Don't wait for a lift up and risk being flooded or blown of course. The ramparts are high and dry. Carpe Diem!

Blondie - The tide is high http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppYgrdJ0pWk

[Spectrism]

I don't see why members need be much divided over this.

There is much common ground when one sees any rapture as something that happens to the collective consciousness of a civilization or country. Right now it is taking place in the public consciousness of most of the wester world.

At this forum we are united in seeing and participating in an unveiling. Most certainly feel 'caught up' in these groups that have 'gathered together in the air to meet .'

This is the Rapture! We are all in it.

What year will it end? When most of those who don't want to see are forced to see and react.

And be proactive. Don't wait for a lift up.


Blondie - The tide is high http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppYgrdJ0pWk


You are as wrong as a fat behind sitting on a nest of rattlesnakes.

The rapture is not some mental awareness.... it is a physical and supernatural event wherein those who are being saved are given clean, incorruptible bodies - those alive and those who have died- and they are swept up into the sky to meet the Messiah. Sounds like fairy tales and silly stuff to those outside.... of that I am sure. AS the events unfold over the next few months, people won't know what to believe anyomre. Those relying on their mental capabilities will be hoodwinked into desparate deceptions. The only enlightenment that will be common to mankind will be deception... and then the judgment.

[keehah]

You are as wrong as a fat behind sitting on a nest of rattlesnakes.

The rapture is not some mental awareness....
You are right, I just posted that a few minutes ago and had not properly proofed. I corrected it. I see it as requiring mental awareness before or during the event, but the event is defined as "being caught up" and I take this to mean with other people at the least. Beofre a physical reality that forces a change in way of living and those without the mental awareness and/or other preparation are in for certain trouble.

[Neuro]

You are as wrong as a fat behind sitting on a nest of rattlesnakes.

The rapture is not some mental awareness.... it is a physical and supernatural event wherein those who are being saved are given clean, incorruptible bodies - those alive and those who have died- and they are swept up into the sky to meet the Messiah. Sounds like fairy tales and silly stuff to those outside.... of that I am sure. AS the events unfold over the next few months, people won't know what to believe anyomre. Those relying on their mental capabilities will be hoodwinked into desparate deceptions. The only enlightenment that will be common to mankind will be deception... and then the judgment.
Exactly how is your idea of rapture, different, from the one you criticized in my post?

The righteous gets pulled up in heaven... Check!

Is it just that it would happen today?
Well, that was from your co-religionist Camping, you still didn't answer whether you consider him a false prophet...

[Spectrism]

Exactly how is your idea of rapture, different, from the one you criticized in my post?

The righteous gets pulled up in heaven... Check!

Is it just that it would happen today?
Well, that was from your co-religionist Camping, you still didn't answer whether you consider him a false prophet...

Dude... everything you say on this topic is just plain ignorant.

None are righteous.
None are pulled up to "heaven" unless you are using the old germanic reference of sky as heavens.
I never called for a pre-tribualtion rapture and certainly not today.
I am anti-religion.
Compared to you, he does not look like a false prophet. Actually, I don't consider him much of a prophet at all.

[ximmy]

We need to do a GSUS head count... is anybody missing... raptured?

[Spectrism]

We need to do a GSUS head count... is anybody missing... raptured?

I think we are missing a half Puerto-Rican Cuban.

[Neuro]

Dude... everything you say on this topic is just plain ignorant.

None are righteous.
None are pulled up to "heaven" unless you are using the old germanic reference of sky as heavens.
I never called for a pre-tribualtion rapture and certainly not today.
I am anti-religion.

Compared to you, he does not look like a false prophet. Actually, I don't consider him much of a prophet at all.
Oh so you were arguing semantics, sweaped into the sky vs pulled up to heaven. And you consider me a bigger false prophet than him.... Ummm kay... ;D

[keehah]

Oh so you were arguing semantics...
Is that the word for it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur5fGSBsfq8

[Spectrism]

Oh so you were arguing semantics, sweaped into the sky vs pulled up to heaven. And you consider me a bigger false prophet than him.... Ummm kay... ;D

A false prophet is one who claims to speak for the true God, but actually speaks from his own imagination or from demonic inspiration. While Harold Camping clearly did not speak for God on certain end times issues (and for my concern his gospel interpretation was skewed as well), he did speak some truths. I am waiting to see some spiritual truths to come from you yet.

[Neuro]

A false prophet is one who claims to speak for the true God, but actually speaks from his own imagination or from demonic inspiration. While Harold Camping clearly did not speak for God on certain end times issues (and for my concern his gospel interpretation was skewed as well), he did speak some truths. I am waiting to see some spiritual truths to come from you yet.
Well spiritual truths, are whatever makes your bells ring, sorry I can't help you there. I think you can only find them in your own interpretation of the bible. I am just an imperfect member of an internet forum, who doesn't read or quote from the bible so any spiritual truths you will NEVER get out of me... Good luck with your end times prophecies!

[Awoke]

The only God there is.

Not the character from books, the real fuckin' deal.

So not YHWH?

[Spectrism]

Well spiritual truths, are whatever makes your bells ring, sorry I can't help you there. I think you can only find them in your own interpretation of the bible. I am just an imperfect member of an internet forum, who doesn't read or quote from the bible so any spiritual truths you will NEVER get out of me... Good luck with your end times prophecies!

I have met some simple people who say the most profound things. Spiritual truths are usually very simple and indivisable..... like prime numbers. It doesn't take a bible scholar to be given spiritual truths. It just takes spiritual life and a soul that embraces truth.

[Neuro]

I have met some simple people who say the most profound things. Spiritual truths are usually very simple and indivisable..... like prime numbers. It doesn't take a bible scholar to be given spiritual truths. It just takes spiritual life and a soul that embraces truth.

Whatever makes your bells ring...

[sirgonzo420]

So not YHWH?

God is too big for names so יהוה (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_(Canaanite_deity))isn't "it".

I don't call God by any names. I don't even like calling God God because it doesn't do justice to what "God" is.

See what I'm saying?

[sirgonzo420]

I have met some simple people who say the most profound things. Spiritual truths are usually very simple and indivisable..... like prime numbers. It doesn't take a bible scholar to be given spiritual truths. It just takes spiritual life and a soul that embraces truth.

Is there any religion higher than truth?

[Spectrism]

Is there any religion higher than truth?

No. When you meet the PERSON of Truth, there is no need for any religion.

Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

[Awoke]

God is too big for names so יהוה (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_(Canaanite_deity))isn't "it".

I don't call God by any names. I don't even like calling God God because it doesn't do justice to what "God" is.

See what I'm saying?


Of course I understand what you're saying. The true God, creator of life and all things, is beyond comprehension.

He also knows your heart, and you can't hide a thing from Him. He knows you mean no insult with you call him Lord, God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

[DMac]

Is there any religion higher than truth?

I've said this before...religion, by definition, is not truth.

[Awoke]

Let me ask you this Gonzo:

Is your God the same God that the Bible refers too as the burning bush who provided the 10 commandments?

[sirgonzo420]

Let me ask you this Gonzo:

Is your God the same God that the Bible refers too as the burning bush who provided the 10 commandments?

Good question. The answer is yes and no. Yes because God is the Source of all, and no because describing him with human words is bound to fail. If you are asking me if God is limited to his personification in the bible, then absolutely not. The bible does not "contain" God. There is a LOT more to God than just the words in the bible that speak of some angry jealous sky-father figure.

God is the one who moved you to ask that question. The one who caused the bible to be written, and the one who sustains and perpetuates everything.

There is no God but God, and that's all there is.

The Universe is a one-man band.

Please forgive me for attempting to communicate the ineffable. I am not trying to be coy.

[Awoke]

That's fine. I appreciate your posts, and I understand that the Lord is incomprehensible and without limitation.

That's why I have no struggles believing he came to us in the flesh as Jesus Christ, and gave us the New Testament to guide us. That's also one of the reasons why I have never had a hard time understanding the Trinity.

[DMac]

Good question. The answer is yes and no. Yes because God is the Source of all, and no because describing him with human words is bound to fail. If you are asking me if God is limited to his personification in the bible, then absolutely not. The bible does not "contain" God. There is a LOT more to God than just the words in the bible that speak of some angry jealous sky-father figure.

God is the one who moved you to ask that question. The one who caused the bible to be written, and the one who sustains and perpetuates everything.

There is no God but God, and that's all there is.

The Universe is a one-man band.

Please forgive me for attempting to communicate the ineffable. I am not trying to be coy.

I've probably posted this link before but here it is again:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plotinus/

Plotinus is my second favorite Greek, behind Solon. His thoughts on God sound similar to what you're trying to get at. If you haven't read about him much I highly recommend you do so. He was a brilliant man.

[Horn]

You fellas will be cursing the God you think doesn't exist.... very soon. And the more you curse and mock, the worse it will be for you. It is like the hitchhiker who refused to take a ride then cursing the driver that drove on. The road ahead will not be gentle.

In the end, God will have seen fit to end all the daily verdicts upon them by themselves or others.

People in this thread have God, Judge for yourself.

[freespirit]

The old no True Scotsman fallacy. You may not be a Christian by the same token. It's so amazingly funny to watch you make that argument not realizing the fallacy of your own belief is exposed in that statement. You have no absolute way to determine who is or is not a Christian other than by their own claims and the same applies to yourself. Sorry, that dog doesn't hunt for people outside your mindset. To us, he is just another nut and so are you, your claims about judgment and sin are as specious as his are about the rapture. That is my basic argument against Christianity, it is just a mishmash of unsupported claims.



You do just as good a job in my view.

pull your head out of your ass...Awoke has done more to defend christianity than most others here combined.

[Horn]

pull your head out of your ass...Awoke has done more to defend christianity than most others here combined.

He reminds me of a previous poster named wrs.

[Santa]

Plotinus is my second favorite Greek, behind Solon. His thoughts on God sound similar to what you're trying to get at. If you haven't read about him much I highly recommend you do so. He was a brilliant man.

For a minute there, I was thinking Plotinus was Pothinus. Lol

The similarity of the name Pothinus and the Old French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_French) verb foutre (roughly equivalent to the Modern English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) term fuck) lead to syncretic amalgamation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncretism) of Pothinus and Priapus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priapus),[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pothinus#cite_note-0) under the assimilated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_assimilation) name Saint Foutin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Foutin);.

[keehah]

Fresher than ever:

Blondie - Rapture

Even fresher:

Naomi Wolf arrested at OWS event for violating terms of an imaginary law (http://boingboing.net/2011/10/20/naomi-wolf-arrested-at-ows-event-for-violating-terms-of-an-imaginary-law.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rnv_PrZxELg

Oct. 20, 2011 Writer Naomi Wolf attended a HuffPo event in NYC where Governor Andrew Cuomo was expected to attend, and which had attracted a group of Occupy Wall Street demonstrators who wanted to address the governor. Seeing the demonstrators penned up far away from the area where it would be lawful to protest, Wolf asked the police to clarify what the demonstrators should be allowed to do. Once the police had clarified that it would be legal for demonstrators to picket out front of the event, providing they didn't impede pedestrian traffic, she led a group of protesters back to the sidewalk. A "white shirt" (senior NYPD officer) told her she was breaking the law in doing so, and when she asked him to clarify how this was so, he had her arrested. The NYPD continue to insist that the public sidewalk out front of the event was off-limits, but have not, to date, produced the alleged permit that established this.

[Awoke]

He reminds me of a previous poster named wrs.

What? I remind you of WRS?

If that is the case, I can rest assured that you have never read one of my posts, and never read one of his posts. WRS and I are diametric opposites. He is anti-Christ.

[keehah]

ATS: Is something new trying to enter our lives? (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread766620/pg1)

[October 20, 2011]
In December 1989, there was a REVOLUTION in the whole country. Well, at least that's how it was called then. The communist regime was overthrown-ed. It wasn't a peaceful thing; hundreds and hundreds of people died shot by the government's forces, assassinated by infiltrated agents, killed by obscure forces which are yet to be discovered even now. Well, they were but not "officially", so nobody was punished for the crimes that took place back then. But it's something else I want to talk about. This long - too long - intro was necessary to create the proper image for the things I want to tell you about.

The revolution in 1989 started effectively on December 15. However, LONG BEFORE THAT, there was a certain "something" in the air. Something without name, without a face, without a body, like a huge static charge floating above, filling people with inner vibrations and making everyone sure about something which is definitely going to happen. And it happened. It happened suddenly, when nobody could expect. I can recall the tension in the air long before the date of December 15th; we were looking at each other without words, with hope and fear in our eyes; until then, the people were making subversive jokes about the regime but they suddenly stopped, like it was an order propagated along the thoughts' matrix. If I could describe the whole climate those days, I could say: SILENCE, WAITING, TENSION. Think about a whole country in this state and you'll figure why I have goosebumps writing this, even now, after so many years.

Let's get back to the present days. Something is happening, again. I can see it on almost everyone's face, moves and words. People became suddenly more and more strenuous, nervous and agitated in a very silent manner - like a small animal in the corner of it's cage, trembling and shivering inside. Usually, the people are pretty aggressive here but lately they aren't the same. Generally speaking, is like a huge energy is building somewhere, inside of something, growing to the point where it will erupt... but how? And when? Because, you see, I'm 110% convinced that there isn't a matter of IF, but of WHEN. I'm looking around me and sometimes, the tension is so dense that it almost can be touched. There's a low, very low vibration, somewhere: maybe in the air, maybe in the sky, maybe into the ground or, maybe, in our collective EGO, as a whole.

[keehah]

Looks like the British Tabloid press is released from boob jobs and botox:

'When I knew my life was going to end, it was actually a moment of pure bliss': The world according to Petra Nemcova (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2051340/Petra-Nemcova-When-I-knew-life-going-end-moment-pure-bliss.html#ixzz1bdccL7qO)
22nd October 2011
The supermodel on how she survived the 2004 tsunami in Thailand, being a gullible teenager and why her favourite romantic gesture involves a lift from the airport...

[keehah]

vancouversun.com/business/Sexy+protesters+Gordon+Campbell+sticky+situation/ (http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Sexy+protesters+Gordon+Campbell+sticky+situation/5553331/story.html#ixzz1bdsz2onV)

[OCTOBER 14, 2011]
Two sexy anti-oil sands protesters put British Columbia's former premier in a sticky situation Wednesday during one of his first official appearances as Canada's High Commissioner to the United Kingdom.

While at The Energy Roundtable - a gathering of Canadian and European energy leaders - Gordon Campbell and others sat bewildered as two protesters proceeded to strip down and perform an 'oil orgy' to critique what they say is a cozy relationship between Alberta's energy producers and Canada's former colonial master.

British poet Peter Bearder a.k.a Pete the Temp, clad in Union Jack boxers, and British/Australian UK Tar Sands Network campaigner Emily Coats, in white Maple-Leaf underwear, dumped molasses on themselves and then jumped onto a table in the gilded conference room to kiss and fondle each other for roughly a minute.

Despite protestations about science and the industry's environmental practices 'Britain' could not fend off 'Canada's' advances.

"I feel so hungry I could eat a forest!" Bearder quipped as the couple exited the room, to be detained later by security.

A stunned Campbell and his colleagues gaped after the stunt before the moderator said, "What we tend to do now is actually take a short break."

Gordon Campbell Slammed by Former Backer, Eco-Activist Tzeporah Berman (http://thetyee.ca/News/2011/10/18/Campbell-Slammed-By-Berman/)

[OCTOBER 18, 2011]
... Berman, who last year became a lead climate change campaigner for Greenpeace International, told The Tyee in a free-swinging phone interview that she is "shocked" by Campbell's role in an "absolutely reprehensible" oil sands industry offensive that makes her "embarrassed" to be a Canadian.

The only reason she helped him win B.C.'s 2009 provincial election and presented him months later with a high-profile award at the Copenhagen Climate Conference, Berman said, was for his "courageous" support of North America's first carbon tax.

[keehah]

FoX: Defunct German Satellite Hits Earth in Fiery Death Dive (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/23/defunct-german-satellite-hits-earth-in-fiery-death-dive/?intcmp=trending#ixzz1beLtP5gj)

October 23, 2011 | Space.com
An old German satellite plunged to Earth Saturday evening after languishing in a dead orbit for more than a decade, but officials do not yet know where it fell.

The 2.7-ton Roentgen Satellite, or ROSAT, slammed into Earth's atmosphere sometime between 9:45 p.m. EDT (0145 GMT Sunday) and 10:15 p.m. EDT (0215 GMT Sunday), according to officials at the German Aerospace Center.

"There is currently no confirmation if pieces of debris have reached Earth's surface," German aerospace officials said in a statement.

While the 21-year-old satellite broke apart as it re-entered Earth's atmosphere, German aerospace officials estimated that up to 30 pieces totaling 1.9 tons (1.7 metric tons), consisting mostly of the observatory's heat-resistant mirrors and ceramic parts, could survive the fiery trip and reach the surface of the planet.

...In 1998, the ROSAT's star tracker failed and its X-ray sensors pointed directly at the sun. This caused irreparable damage to the satellite, and it was officially decommissioned in February 1999.

..."One option is we want to be able to catch uncontrolled satellites in the future," Jan Woerner, head of the executive board of the Deutsches Zentrum für Luft- und Raumfahrt (DLR), Germany's space agency, told SPACE.com. "We're working on such a mission to catch them, depending on their state, and have a controlled re-entry or send them to a graveyard, in order to prevent this situation in the future."

[Horn]

vancouversun.com/business/Sexy+protesters+Gordon+Campbell+sticky+situation/ (http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Sexy+protesters+Gordon+Campbell+sticky+situation/5553331/story.html#ixzz1bdsz2onV)

Gordon Campbell Slammed by Former Backer, Eco-Activist Tzeporah Berman (http://thetyee.ca/News/2011/10/18/Campbell-Slammed-By-Berman/)

Come on, Keehah.

That one would have made an excellent thread title, and with so many wonderful & juicy sidetracks to spin off into.

[keehah]

Be careful of what you ask for Horn.
Once seen, it cannot be unseen. ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9BWFVdl4AE

[keehah]

http://spaceweather.com/
[Sunspot number: 164 ]
SPACE WEATHER FORECAST FOR MARS: A bright CME blasted off the sun yesterday, Oct. 22nd, and it appears to be heading for Mars. Analysts at the Goddard Space Weather Lab expect the cloud to reach the Red Planet on Oct. 26th

http://spaceweather.com/images2011/22oct11/cme_512b.gif

...Unlike Earth, which has a global magnetic field, Mars is patchily covered by dozens of "magnetic umbrellas"--remnants of an over-arching planetary field that decayed...

Some researchers believe that magnetic storms in the umbrellas could rip parcels of atmosphere away from Mars and propel air-filled magnetic bubbles into space. In this way, space weather could be directly responsible for the desiccation of the Red Planet.

[Horn]

Be careful of what you ask for Horn.
Once seen, it cannot be unseen. ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9BWFVdl4AE

Holeee sheet :rolleyes:

this needs to be reproduced in the Canadian tea party thread.

I didn't catch the royal shorts in the previous snipet you had there.

Was that oil or a light vinaigrette salad dressing?

[keehah]

usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-23/catholic-mass-changes (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-23/catholic-mass-changes/50875322/1)

[Awoke]

usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-23/catholic-mass-changes (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-23/catholic-mass-changes/50875322/1)

We have been practicing the "new" prayers for a few weeks in our Church now. I am still in the process of working this out in my spirit. I have long been a proponent for the Catholic Church moving back towards where they were before second vatican council, but I still need more time with these changes to really feel them out.

What I need is to talk to a priest who is familiar with the mass in latin, and confirm some of the translations, before I can relax.

[keehah]

This is good. (regarding spiritual growth not ubber doom) Gets rolling after the 4 minute mark.

The End Times (October 28 2011 ?) ~ Frank Whalen & Zeph Daniel [October 3, 2011]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJw2qBe_9c

We go through the apocalypse or DAY OF THE LORD, as gleaned from the Mayan Calendar--not Dec 21, 2012... but OCT 28, 2011!.. jibes also with some of John Moore's information previously. Awesome talk with Brother Frank, and truly one of the most poignant shows I have ever done... let's get our values straight if this is our last month. Eyes on Him, and forget the rest. Tell someone you love them, forgive all...

[Horn]

This is good. (regarding spiritual growth not ubber doom)

I grew until about 1/2 way then started to nod off...

[keehah]

Reconciliation of Faith and Science?

Little green men (updated Santa or aetheric 'Teddy Bears') aside, I'm starting to wonder if the Roman Catholic Church is positioning to soon be more advanced in cosmic science that the mainstream progressive ivory tower. Good for them!

Although this may just be the honey for a new campain as Fox makes clear to promote and a verbal slip at 2:10 could suggest.
Nice moment at the end when the female host is reminded how dumb her co-anchor is.
FauxNews Aug.2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h5L7IEqBjc

And now faith and science and rapture doom:
(this current rapture is not over till 111111! ?)
700 Club - 2005 YU55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8HKbe1djp8

[osoab]

Harold Camping Apologizes For Faulty Rapture Predictions And Retires, Report States (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/01/harold-camping-apologizes-rapture-predictions_n_1069520.html?ref=weird-news&ir=Weird%20News)

vid @ link



Three proposed Rapture dates have come and gone, and the world has not ended.

Controversial Christian broadcaster Harold Camping has acknowledged his faulty projections, and issued an apology to his followers. The Christian Post reports that the longtime radio evangelist has retired (http://global.christianpost.com/news/harold-camping-exclusive-family-radio-founder-retires-doomsday-prophet-no-longer-able-to-work-59222/).

Brandon Tauszik, documentarian, told the Post exclusively (http://global.christianpost.com/news/harold-camping-exclusive-family-radio-founder-retires-doomsday-prophet-no-longer-able-to-work-59222/) that he had spoken to Camping, who seemed "disappointed" by his failed predictions and said he "is no longer able to lead Family Radio Stations, Inc., or his ministry."

In an audio message posted on Camping's Family Radio website (http://www.familyradio.com/), the 90-year-old broadcaster told his listeners that the Rapture did not occur October 21 because it was ultimately God's will. "He could have stopped everything if He had wanted to," he said.

In addition, he admits that his calculations were wrong and tells his followers that "we should be very patient about this matter. At least in a minimal way we are learning to walk more and more humble before God."

Camping also apologized for a controversial comment saying that God had stopped saving people who did not believe in his May 21 spiritual judgment day predictions. Camping points out that believers must continue studying the Bible, praying, and remembering that God is in charge.

The evangelist claimed to have cracked a code in the Bible that allowed him to calculate the date of the Rapture. He predicted the world would end (http://global.christianpost.com/news/family-radio-founder-harold-camping-repents-apologizes-for-false-teachings-59819/) in 1994, May 2011, and then in October 2011, the Christian Post reports.

Some devout listeners reportedly sold their belongings and donated money to Camping's cause, the Associated Press reports (http://www.kboi2.com/news/offbeat/132973133.html).

[Son-of-Liberty]

Well at least he apologized.

People like him end up doing more damage to their own cause then they do support it.

I always question peoples legitimacy that claim to talk to god or know god who don't realize that 9-11 was a scam. You would think god would give them the skinny on the NWO or at least point them in the right direction.

[keehah]

smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2011/11/111111-arrives (http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2011/11/111111-arrives.html)

Dog Poet Transmitting......

The assault on a 'family and friends' picnic in Nevada; the Southern Nevada Health District made them destroy their organic food and pour bleach on it so that it couldn't even be fed to the pigs, shows us that the police state, which is the inescapable and predetermined result of the corporate control of government and the social construct is a reality. This is what always follows the course of materialism, when it has become preeminent in our way of life. Venal, predatory acquisition junkies, bean counters and lawyers, conspire with the appetites of the terminally ignorant to create a nightmare, where only the privileged can dream in peace. What they never comprehend, or refuse to accept, is what also eventually follows in the wake of their abuses; their own downfall and enduring ignominy. That is what sits upon the horizon now and soon, even their enforcers will be walking away from their posts. This is one of the tenets of The Apocalypse, eventually the awakening burns through the denial and self interest of those duped into the service of the darkness.

Every veteran and soldier assaulted on the front lines of the global protests against the 1% and their enablers, awakens a greater rage in the hearts of their fellows, who already know how little remains on the table for them, regardless of their sacrifice. Every member of the police, who is not completely compromised by the lies and their own surfaced brutality and self interest, is being awakened to the nature of the Draconian laws they are being compelled to enforce. We hold these truths to be 'self' evident because that is what is revealing them.

As has been stated many times previous, the cardinal mistake of the ruling class is when they finally seek to destroy the middle class. The middle class is their one remaining buffer between them and the mob and swells the ranks themselves, apace with its surging emergence. In recent times and now increasingly logarithmic, all of the foul plots and activities of those making war on humanity are turning against them. Everything they seek to perform out of sight, or under cloak of cloud and turbidity, is outed and revealed by mysterious hand. The recording of Obama and Sarkozy concerning Netanyahu is a classic indicator of cosmic gotcha.

Their fortunes made from deception, fraud and outright theft, are now hostage to the systems they reaped them from. Their wars for profit have gone amiss. In response, they reach out to greater fields of conquest, stretching themselves beyond the possibility of necessary defenses and the safety of their own person. They are blind and made more blind by the cosmic agents of their pending destruction; 'step by step and inch by inch, Niagara Falls' and so falls America; home of the flea and land of the knave. “Double, double, toil and trouble. Fire burn and cauldron bubble”.
Nothing is what it was and tomorrow will be incrementally different from today. The increments move closer to together and increase in velocity. Summa iru seems to be the best expression of our darkest hour, unless some unmistakable voice calls you to action. Strange times have found us and we are not here by accident, no matter to what extent we have lost our purpose and forgotten the requested destiny that brought us here into these times. Fortune may favor the bold but that tactic has grown old and irrelevant, when fortune has come to mean something gained at the expense of your fellows. We are becoming self evident, defined by those things we have given over the industry of our hearts and hands and minds to realize or possess. We are the tiny totality of what we value and seek after. We are the microcosm of our own liberation and doom.

Fall approaches the midpoint and Winter waits beyond. Turmoil and the faint promise of an uncertain Spring are afoot but Winter lies between. What does that mean to those who live in the tropics (grin)? I am not amused but laughter and mirth can have many a motive. When the ground is moving beneath you, can you put your faith in what surrounds you? Can metaphor, analogy and allegory suffice for what cannot be directly stated? We are captives of the unknown, in search of epiphany and revelation and these shall surely come in differing dimensions to each of us, according to our works and intentions.

[Horn]

Nevada health department are the most nazi form of health dept. on the planet.

The say it is due to the high tourism rate, that they need to kill bugs before they breed.

I'll bet is so a small time kitchen can't compete against a 24hour casino buffet.

[Twisted Titan]

and the sheep of camping who were baying fiercly their masters message

Quitely move back into the herd and hope they wont be noticed again.


until the next time.



fools

[DMac]

I haven't seen this car around since the spring. I wonder if it was raptured ;D

[osoab]

I haven't seen this car around since the spring. I wonder if it was raptured ;D


Probably sold the car off and gave all his FRN's away.

[keehah]

I haven't seen this car around since the spring. I wonder if it was raptured ;D

I assume that car had state plates at some time?

Then that car was already 'caught up' and taken the first time its 'owner' paid his Motor Vehicle License Tax. ;D

[keehah]

Leonard Cohen comes to mind.

[Awoke]

I assume that car had state plates at some time?

Then that car was already 'caught up' and taken the first time its 'owner' paid his Motor Vehicle License Tax. ;D

Do you drive around in Canada without licences plate on your vehicle?

[keehah]

Here comes a red moon. December 10th, next one not till 2014.

On Dec 10th, sky watchers in the western United States will witness a total lunar eclipse swollen to super-sized proportions by the Moon illusion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTIeUYKll2o

[Awoke]

I'll take that as a "No".