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JJ.G0ldD0t
25th May 2011, 01:11 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/25/tucson-suspect-faces-mental-competency-hearing/

PHOENIX -- A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the suspect in the Tucson shooting rampage that wounded U.S. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is mentally incompetent to stand trial, putting the criminal case against him on hold indefinitely.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Larry Burns means Jared Lee Loughner, 21, will be sent to a federal facility for up to four months in a bid to restore his competency.

Loughner, dressed in a khaki prison suit and sporting bushy, reddish sideburns, was removed from the hearing after an outburst and had to watch part of the proceeding on a TV screen in another room. Burns had Loughner escorted from the courtroom after Loughner lowered his head and said what sounded like: "Thank you for the freak show. She died in front of me." His head was inches from the table in front of him.

Loughner was later brought back into the courtroom, and the judged told him he had a right to watch the hearing. Burns asked Loughner if he wanted to stay in the courtroom and behave or view the proceeding on a screen in another room.

Loughner responded: "I want to watch the TV screen."

At least two survivors of the Jan. 8 attack looked on: Giffords aide Pam Simon, who was shot in the chest and right wrist; and retired Army Col. Bill Badger, who is credited with helping subdue Loughner after a bullet grazed the back of Badger's head.

The ruling came after Loughner spent five weeks in March and April at a federal facility in Springfield, Mo., where he was examined by two court-appointed mental health professionals. The two were asked to determine whether Loughner understands the consequences of the case against him.

Both said in the courtroom Wednesday that Loughner was mentally ill and was not fit to stand trial.

Loughner has pleaded not guilty to 49 federal charges stemming from the Jan. 8 shooting at a meet-and-greet event that wounded Giffords and 12 others and killed six people, including a 9-year-old girl and a federal judge.

Prosecutors had asked for the mental exam, citing a YouTube video in which they believe a hooded Loughner wore garbage bags and burned an American flag.

The judge gave the two mental health professionals access to Loughner's health records from his pediatrician, a behavioral health hospital that treated him for extreme intoxication in May 2006 and an urgent care center where he was treated in 2004 for unknown reasons.

Loughner will be sent to a federal facility for a maximum of four months to see if his competency can be restored. If he's later determined to be competent, the case against him will resume.

If he isn't deemed competent at the end of his treatment, his stay at the facility can be extended. There are no limits on the number of times such extensions can be granted.

If doctors conclude they can't restore his mental competency, the judge would have to decide whether the suspect can be restored. If the judge decides there's no likelihood of restoration, the judge can dismiss the charges against him. In that case, state and federal authorities can petition to have him civilly committed and could seek to extend that commitment repeatedly, said Heather Williams, a federal public defender in Tucson who isn't involved in the Loughner case.

Robbie Sherwood, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office, told the Arizona Republic they "believe he can be restored to competency with proper medication."

The doctors who examined Loughner were ordered not to focus on his sanity at the time of the shooting.

Loughner's lawyers haven't said whether they intend to present an insanity defense. But they noted in court filings that his mental condition will likely be a central issue at trial and described him as a "gravely mentally ill man."

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Plastic
25th May 2011, 01:22 PM
Oh man... If he is'nt crazy now he will be after a while...

Ponce
25th May 2011, 01:54 PM
If he goes to prison he then will be there for the rest of his life.......but.......if goes to a mental hospital and cured of his "mental" illness he could be out in two weeks, two monts, two years or whatever.

iOWNme
25th May 2011, 03:52 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/25/tucson-suspect-faces-mental-competency-hearing/

PHOENIX -- A federal judge ruled Wednesday that the suspect in the Tucson shooting rampage that wounded U.S. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is mentally incompetent to stand trial, putting the criminal case against him on hold indefinitely.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Larry Burns means Jared Lee Loughner, 21, will be sent to a federal facility for up to four months in a bid to restore his competency.


The STATE deems you mentally incompetent, but the STATE deems they can cure you of such mental illness in just a few short months.


"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" - J. Krishnamurti

mightymanx
25th May 2011, 04:18 PM
I thought it was the pistol and high capacity magazine's fault, not the ugly pald guy? ???

mick silver
25th May 2011, 05:14 PM
what crime did he do

ximmy
25th May 2011, 05:21 PM
what crime did he do


he went hitler on a jew...

JDRock
25th May 2011, 05:30 PM
...lil ol synagogue kid goes all talmudic :oo-->...the tribe circled the wagons . i wish i knew the last names of the "doctors" who examined him. they want this guy OUT of the public eye for a reason. if he really was a neo nazi white kid they would be parading his ugly @ss on the news daily until the next "random" act.

Bullion_Bob
25th May 2011, 06:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5mS1tVCRRE&feature=related

sirgonzo420
26th May 2011, 07:10 AM
what crime did he do


he went hitler on a jew...


he became the 'father of israel'?


:conf:

Hatha Sunahara
26th May 2011, 10:10 AM
Has anyone heard the gun control dogs bark from the incident he is charged with?

I think the guy is crazy. But I am not sure whether he did this act on his own, or that he could have been manipulated by persons, or an organization who wanted to exploit his schizophrenia to further their agenda. The gun control agenda is one suspect in this regard.

Keep in mind that it was not just Congresswoman Giffords who was a victim, but a federal judge was killed in this incident. There is a surprising similarity between this incident and many of the school shooting incidents. One common thread among the shooters is that they are on SSRI meds. When these meds are abruptly withdrawn, it sets up the mental instability that the shooters go through. It not a big jump to imagine that a black ops group cultivates the loonies in our society to perform acts like this guy did. On the other hand, he may very well be crazy and did this without any special handling or external influence. It is really easy to hide a crime under the cover of insanity--especially by people who are proficient in black ops and creating patsies who are blamed for their dirty work.


Hatha

gunDriller
26th May 2011, 12:32 PM
it will be expensive to keep him around in a mental hospital jail.

also, i wouldn't say that everyone he shot is an innocent bystander.

SHTF2010
26th May 2011, 01:18 PM
they're afraid what he may say in a open courtroom . . .

JDRock
26th May 2011, 03:27 PM
...lil ol synagogue kid goes all talmudic :oo-->...the tribe circled the wagons . i wish i knew the last names of the "doctors" who examined him. they want this guy OUT of the public eye for a reason. if he really was a neo nazi white kid they would be parading his ugly @ss on the news daily until the next "random" act.
yup shtf.....

gunDriller
26th May 2011, 05:28 PM
...lil ol synagogue kid goes all talmudic :oo-->...the tribe circled the wagons . i wish i knew the last names of the "doctors" who examined him. they want this guy OUT of the public eye for a reason. if he really was a neo nazi white kid they would be parading his ugly @ss on the news daily until the next "random" act.


very very good point.

just like they have selective prosecution & persecution, they also have the option of selectively removing a defendant from the public eye if they think the trial will endanger "national security" ... like when Toto pulled back the curtain in the movie Wizard of Oz.

i think that's what happened with Bin Laden, if they really did kill him a few Sundays ago. couldn't afford to have him speaking publicly.

i wonder if Loughner tried to use the Talmud as his defense. said he thought he was killing gentiles, and his moral reference says that's OK.

they wouldn't want that coming out in a trial.