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osoab
26th May 2011, 06:43 PM
Researchers Prove Bible Grossly Mistranslated (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-611844)


A research group in Canada, has proved that the Old Testement has been massively mistranslated.

This follows three years of research, which have uncovered the actual system for translating ancient Hebrew.

The group discovered that each letter is not a letter at all, but a full word, and what was believed to be a word, is actually a sentence like description, which supplies the definition of the word. With this discovery, each word can now be properly defined and the results are astounding.

This means a word can no longer be disputed and swayed by doctrinal pressures

If accurate, the findings will rewrite everything we presently believe about the scriptual beginnings of the Earth.

Research Head Christopher Tyreman states that what they have found, proves without a doubt, that the Bible has been grossly mistranslated and that their findings expose this fact with glaring simplicity. He further stated that he finds it interesting that a group of lay researchers were able to see and assemble what they call "Self Defining Hebrew or the SDH System" while experts seemed unaware of its existence.

The team also wished people to understand that this is not a bible code, but the system the original language was built on.

Its construct shows it to be a manufactured system of massive complexity, using only twenty words, which when mixed, can supply a complete language.

Mr. Tyreman also added that the form of this language shows it could not have evolved from surrounding cultures as it is incapable of importing words from outside language. This alone points to an origination outside of the scope of the presently held theories of language development. These findings could have a major impact on how Science and religion look at our beginnings.



The research team has posted all of its work online @ http://www.thechronicleproject.org/

http://www.thechronicleproject.org/

I was looking around there site. Interesting stuff.

Founding members.
http://www.thechronicleproject.org/sdmenu/sdmenu/images/team.jpg
http://www.thechronicleproject.org/sdmenu/sdmenu/images/wild%204.jpg http://www.thechronicleproject.org/sdmenu/sdmenu/images/Picsin36PicsIn1306111024873%20(1).png


Discoveries.


What We Have Discovered
The following work, is NOT a translation, but a restoration.

It is the application of the newly discovered Self Defining Hebrew or SDH system which was built into the ancient Hebrew language by its creator(s).

1. It is capable of defining a word from its revealed concept, because each letter in the Hebrew language has been found to be its own seperate word (see prime glyph set page in the research notes PDF) and so a complete description of an item has been found to be in what was once thought of as a single word.

2. Once that word has been properly divided and defined, that definition applies to every placement of it in a text. One word, one definition, unlike standard translations which can use up to 84 different words for a single Hebrew word, because the initial definition is in error.

3. Each word, can now be properly defined, even by a beginner with minimal help, thus speeding up the learning curve. Remember though, this site has only just begun and it is an ongoing work which will be posted as completed.

4. Due to the fact each word has a visible definition from its own description, doctrinal pressures can no longer sway the translation.

This discovery is not intended to create a new sect or division. It is intended only for the purpose of revealing the Hebrew texts as close to it's original form as we can.

Please do not send emails regarding the history of the language as is presently understood. We are well versed regarding history, development, and present understanding of the language, but thank you for the consideration.

Chris Tyreman
Research Head
The Chronicle Project

From their Research Notes. (http://www.thechronicleproject.org/sdmenu/sdmenu/pages/research/researchnotesmaster.pdf)



In the Beginning...
The hebrew language, was originally believed to have been a combination of other older languages, which evolved
into the hebrew dialect.
The breakthrough in our understanding began with the concept that rather than an evolved language, it might be
exactly as it described itself, the language of God.
It was with this premise in mind, that the chronicle research team approached the language, for several reasons.
1. If hebrew was a mix of older languages around it, then the first five books of Moses, the Torah (as most believe)
are a mere compilation of older legends, collected and handed down through the generations. If so, then as a holy
writing, they hold no more validity then any other legend. Why? Because they contradict the story of their own
creation, which states that they were given to us by God at Mount Horeb.
2. If, Hebrew was as described in the opening statement, given of God, then the rules from other man made
languages, used to interpret the hebrew language, were not applicable. Their use would cause wide spread error in
the translation.
And so the question was posed;
If this truly is the language of higher beings, given to man, should it not show evidence of this?
With this in mind, the team began searching for unified rules, set patterns that would occur in such a language.
The first breakthrough came from Kim, examining the hebrew word to tear up (#5420 in the Strong's Dictionary)
She noticed that the following words in the list, held the same concept of "to tear", but the direction changed when
the third letter changed. So by this, it became apparent that the first two letters carried the main concept of the idea,
and the next letter gave description to the concept. As follows:
-tear up
-tear out
-tear down
-tear off
-tear asunder
-tear away
The team then began to check other words, and found a this same common pattern.
With this in mind, a two word list of what the team believed were the root words, was assembled, to see if a
common pattern for the added letters could be found.
After eighteen month and multiple attempts, a successful list of the 22 letters and their affect on the root words were
assembled.
It was at this time considered that the two letter root words were not words at all, but that each letter was its own
concept.
This was the quantum leap that we had been looking for.
Each letter of the hebrew language, was not a letter after all, but rather a symbol for a word, just as the Egyptians
have (see hebrew glyph table) But, with a stunning difference. The complete language was formed using only 22
glyphs, which by simple combination, could create any idea that one wished to convey.
Interestingly, the first compilation of the work, was completed on the first day of purim 2009
rest at link.

I downloaded Exodus the Decrees. I just copied the whole thing put together. When you download their translations, they break it down.

v1 And so the supreme ones decreed all of the decrees and declared:

v2 I, Ruler of all supreme ones who created what you have, the one who progressed
your people by colonizing you in the land of Egypt, that house of service.

v3 Do not seek the council of the supremes behind my back to seek council.

v4 Do not proceed to carve things and then everyone proceed to worship the
improvements (we made) inside of the sky, those that are above.
Nor worship anything we made to progress the Earth that is on the land, or under it.
Nor any improvements in the waters in the land.

v5 You are not to hold fasts for them nor shall you serve them in any way.
As so, I the Ruler of all, am the only one you should respond to as I prepare a place
to oversee you. To burden the lineage of sons thirty and forty years of age who
slander (these ways).

v6 And I deliver kindness to you, by my teachings, to create a refuge and to create a
warning for you through the enacting of this law.
FINISH

v7 Do not exhaust the value of the name Ruler of all, your supreme one, to puff up
your statements. You are not allowed to speak my name to your statements or vows
to try and progress their validity and in doing so make my name worthless.

v8 Always remember the day of rest, as the Sabbath is special.

v9 Six long days you have to serve and work at all your jobs.

v10 The day to marvel (the seventh) is Sabbath to Ruler of all, your supreme. Do
not proceed to make anyone work, not you or your sons or daughters, who serve
you. Nothing that is in your care, not even your livestock shall work. And you are to
make sure that the poor within the city gates are given their needs. (So that they will
not have to beg on this day).

v11 As so in six days were made by Ruler of all, all that draw attention above in the
celestials, and on the Earth, and in the waters. Everything we made to progress the
Earth in those areas. All before the day to marvel as was stated and then Ruler of all
blessed the Sabbath day and held it in highest esteem over the others.
FINISH

v12 You are to take care of your mother and father (in their old age) to prolong your
length of days over the land progressed, that Ruler of all has given to you.
FINISH

v13 Do not proceed to abandon those who need your support
FINISH

v14 Do not proceed to break authority vows
FINISH

v15 Do not proceed to steal
FINISH

v16 Do not out of fear of the consequences, lie.
FINISH

v17 Do not proceed to want those of your household, your flesh and blood to fear you.
FINISH

Do not want that your wife fears you and your servants and maidservants and oxen and
those of your vineyards and all of your increase to fear you.
FINISH

mightymanx
26th May 2011, 06:47 PM
So what is the new May 21st end of the world now that there is another new translation of the bible?

osoab
26th May 2011, 06:52 PM
So what is the new May 21st end of the world now that there is another new translation of the bible?


That dude Cambell or whatever changed it to the 21st of October. There is a thread by ximmy in GD about it.

ximmy
26th May 2011, 06:55 PM
pay no attention to the carbon copy look of the "family"

mightymanx
26th May 2011, 06:57 PM
pay no attention to the carbon copy look of the "family"




Part of the new translation removes the taboo of inces.t

bellevuebully
26th May 2011, 09:32 PM
Founding members......



Impressive biographies. lol

hoarder
26th May 2011, 09:49 PM
If the Bible is grossly mistranslated, maybe these folks are poisoning the well.

keehah
27th May 2011, 01:31 AM
So if they are so smart, how come they cannot better explain it to the profane? Usually this come from the profane.
And not being active Christian I'll not notice a dialect regardless.

Anyway it had me interested, and I was entertained digging around for a while to still keep an open mind, but soon realized how nasty how all the actions described were. Don't they have better things to talk about?

An example, here is some more 'code': As simple as 1234, in the Hebrew Lexicon eh?
http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/1234.html

osoab
27th May 2011, 06:55 PM
Founding members......



Impressive biographies. lol



BB I respect your opinion a good deal.
I think your wrong with that comment.

That same concept could be given to each of us on this board in respect to our views on Au, Ag, .gov, etc.

I understand that the bios are a little lacking, but what bios do most of us give that is always out there?

Who are we to question how the economic, political, and social systems work? :dunno

bellevuebully
27th May 2011, 07:37 PM
Founding members......



Impressive biographies. lol



BB I respect your opinion a good deal.
I think your wrong with that comment.

That same concept could be given to each of us on this board in respect to our views on Au, Ag, .gov, etc.

I understand that the bios are a little lacking, but what bios do most of us give that is always out there?

Who are we to question how the economic, political, and social systems work? :dunno


I appreciate the compliment above osoab. The feeling is mutual, very sincerely.

The reason I commented on the bios was because they are claiming to have found something that centuries of researchers have missed about a subject that is highly complex. I would have expected some sort of recognized cred's. Rather, they stated personality traits. Not to mention commenting on how attractive one of the members was. For me, I found it a little hard to take seriously.

As to our bios (insert crazy-comment here ;D), we are having a discussion in text form. I see that as quite different than claiming academic findings. But seeing as I didn't delve too deeply into the material, I'll go back and have a look at it a little closer. I might even browse that member's bio again. They were quite right....she's is a fox. lol


Thanks again for your ongoing valued input on this site. I always enjoy reading your posts and opinions.

Awoke
30th May 2011, 07:17 AM
This is some seriously perverse shit.

So God has now become "The Celestials"
The serpent Satan has become "The shining one of Zion"

Reading through their version of Genesis alone should be enough for anyone to see the NWO new-age mysticism agenda, even if the reader was not "religious".

Sorry Osoab. This is disinfo. Also take into consideration the entire crux of their statement.
"Every symbol is a word. like a glyph".
If that was the case, the "story" would be totally different from the "story" of the bible as we know it. The language would have no relation to what we understand as the "Hebrew alphabet" today.

As an example, I say "Go poop"
If each letter was a word, it would have no relation to the original statement written using the english alphabet.

What I mean is, hypothetically, if each letter was a glyph for a word, the translation would be nothing at all like the original interpretation based on alphabet.
G = Travel
O = feet
P = Waste

Then "Go poop" changes in meaning to gibberish "Travel feet waste feet feet waste"
We could use anything we wanted as the words that the glyphs could represent, but it still would be entirely different from the original message.

It could translate into "Tree Dog Umbrella Dog Dog Umbrella" if you changed the assigned meaning to each "glyph" in "Go poop".


This is just a case of reinterpretation and some name changing, which is seemingly validated with their presentation of "how they discovered" that "each letter is a glyph". In reality it is an attempt to mislead and pervert scriptures, to appeal to the masses that look to the sky for UFO's and wear captain Kirk sweaters, imo.

They also look like a bunch of wannabe vampire occultists in the photo. I can't be bothered to seriously read their bios or further material.

bellevuebully
31st May 2011, 05:09 AM
I can't be bothered to seriously read their bios or further material.


For entertainment value, you should. It's 3 wolf moon shirtish.

vacuum
2nd June 2011, 02:17 AM
This is really amazing. If they can actually make intelligible translations using their super-simple system.....then its the correct system. There really isn't any further discussion or argument on the topic, because anyone can can get the glyph table they've got on their website, get the original hebrew text, and translate it themselves. No meta arguments of credentials or anything like that is needed - it can be verified by anyone. No cross-translations with greek or cultural word changes will affect this system, ie, you don't need 20 years of contextual scholarly background info to translate the words.

StreetsOfGold
2nd June 2011, 11:58 AM
Researchers Prove Bible Grossly Mistranslated

There is NOTHING NEW under the sun.

Genesis 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent (Researchers).... said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said,

sirgonzo420
2nd June 2011, 12:18 PM
This is some seriously perverse shit.

So God has now become "The Celestials"
The serpent Satan has become "The shining one of Zion"



Forgive me for not delving into your post in its entirety, but on the point quoted above, I would like to comment.

The hebrew word that gets translated as "God" is "Elohim" (אלוהים), which is plural. "The Celestials" may be a bit of a reach, but I can see why they'd translate it that way.


The serpent Satan was always shining. "Nachash" (נחש) in hebrew means something closer to "shining/hissing shaman/sorcerer/enchanter" than "serpent" (which people pretty much always take to mean 'snake').

I mean, that's what the original hebrew texts say. They can be translated differently in english, but the hebrew words say what they say.

If you want to *really* get the full effect, read the bible in the original tongues.

sirgonzo420
10th June 2011, 01:44 PM
For entertainment value, you should. It's 3 wolf moon shirtish.

ROFL at 3 wolf moon shirtish!

Horn
10th June 2011, 03:18 PM
The meaning of terms (or a string of words put together) has a completely different meaning in the end with most translations. The only way to understand what is truly said is to understand fully the original language it is written.

Even these translations will be understood completely different as they would be in Hebrew, I'm sure.