Just zap myself to the ground with 1 mill volts :(

[Ponce]

I have two electric zapers each with one million volts, because the other day that big blk dog went after mine for dinner I decided to put the 2 12 volts batteries in one of them so that I can carry it when he takes me for a walk..........anyway.......with the new batteries in place I decided to test it but the danm thing is the reverse of the one that I had before so that I was holding it at the spaky end when I pressed the button, the danm thing sent me to the ground and I am still high......might do it again tomorrow ahahahaha.

Tell you what, good to use on someone with a heart attack, you will either saved him or kill him.

I like to say that I am crazy but not stupid......just proved myself to be wrong >:(

[Son-of-Liberty]

Sounds like it was an electrifying experience! :P

Been zapped by one of those before. Not fun.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Hi Ponce, always look on the bright side, at least any parasites you had are now deceased. ZAP!

[Horn]

Do you live with anyone that could poke you with a stick?

http://afrsweb.usda.gov/sp2userfiles/ad_hoc/19000000SafetyHealthandEnvironmentalTraining/graphics/Electric-Save.jpg

[platinumdude]

Don't tase yourself, bro.

[Ponce]

Now have a red spot in my hand the size of a dime......and is sore as hell, used some cream on it.

[Bullion_Bob]

I used to do component level repairs on monitors for IBM. One day when removing a CRT I went to remove the anode not realizing it was still on/hot (suction cup that connects to the red area below). Only 25,000 volts but a few seconds of that level of current, and you're dead, or messed up in the hospital.

So I grabbed it with both hands, like anyone would normally do if it's turned off. ::) It is truly indescribable.

Both time and space warped audibly and visually, felt like compressed air sizzling at my finger tips, threw me backwards violently. Total out of body experience. My fingertips, knuckles, wrists, shoulders, elbows, and knees (a bit) were sore for about 3 days. Took me 15 mins to figure out what actually happened, then I was generally clueless for about an hour until I could play it all back in my head...then it was like a grand realization what occurred. Like waking from a dream. Freaky as hell.

For comparison I usually wire all 120v house switches live or not, doesn't matter to me. 120v from the wall is a little tickle by comparison. Don't mess with electricity.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/productimages/s4/4065036.jpg

[Serpo]

This is how Tesla started :D

[Bullion_Bob]

:lol

[bellevuebully]

Only 25,000 volts but a few seconds of that level of current, and you're dead, or messed up in the hospital.



100 mA of current will generally be very bad news for the one on the receiving end. This can be generated by much less than 120V, depending on conditions like whether you are wearing wet clothes or just very sweaty. As little as 20 mA can cause physiological imparments. Another major factor is the path it takes. Like your own experience, it is commonly from one hand to another or one hand to a foot. Both paths cross the general area of the heart. A flash across a hand is much less dangerous. Still hurts, but less dangerous.

You are correct. Don't mess with electron flow.

[po boy]

out of coffee Ponce? ;D

[Spectrism]

Old TVs and monitors have capacitors that store the charge even though power is off. They will kick your head into your arse.

The general rule is: be smarter than the equipment you are working on. ;D

[Dogman]

Old TVs and monitors have capacitors that store the charge even though power is off. They will kick your head into your arse.

The general rule is: be smarter than the equipment you are working on. ;D


The picture tube itself can and will act as a capacitor, a big one.

[gunDriller]

once i was at a friend's house and they had one of those electric fly-swatters.

i was curious how bad it was and touched it. they thought it was very funny. ;D

i've also touched 115VAC maybe 7 to 10 times. that's way worse, far more memorable.

though i think i would remember being tased. including a self-tasing.

sounds like Fight Club. :o

[mick silver]

ponce did you make a vid and put it on u tube

[Ponce]

More cream on my hand and holding a cup of coffee.......no Utube for me.

Last time that I did something so stupid was back in Cuba when I was 12, there was a bottle with a little bit of gas in it and I wanted to find out what would happen if I were to throw a match in it.....boy did I find out, there was a BIG PUFFFFFF and it burn the front of my hair my eyebrow and my face a little bit........

"To think and do nothing is worse than knowing nothing"... Ponce

[gunDriller]

More cream on my hand and holding a cup of coffee.......no Utube for me.

Last time that I did something so stupid was back in Cuba when I was 12, there was a bottle with a little bit of gas in it and I wanted to find out what would happen if I were to throw a match in it.....boy did I find out, there was a BIG PUFFFFFF and it burn the front of my hair my eyebrow and my face a little bit........

"To think and do nothing is worse than knowing nothing"... Ponce


i tried lighting a fire in the fireplace using gasoline about 2 months ago.

Poof - but no boom - i was lucky.

boy, that was dumb.

but it did help me realize just how much energy gasoline has in it.

so it was a combination of idiocy and augmenting my technical education.


i talked to a truck driver who used to haul gas. he said he was more scared when his truck was empty than when it was full, because of the fumes.

[Ponce]

Yes Gun......back in CA an empty fuel truck came in with a crack that had to be welded......a Mexican illegal volunteer to do it for $500.00......every one left the shop for a "coffee break", I don't know how but nothing happened and the guy lived to collect his $.

[SLV^GLD]

Not to make light of the incident but your average static shock touching a doorknob after walking across carpet can be in the 10s of thousands of volts. Tesla coils generate high frequency voltages in the millions of volts than can be safely handled with bare skin. It's all about the current. Voltage is the potential difference, current is the number of electrons that actually move over a given period of time. Sufficient current kills at less than a single volt.

[gunDriller]

Not to make light of the incident but your average static shock touching a doorknob after walking across carpet can be in the 10s of thousands of volts. Tesla coils generate high frequency voltages in the millions of volts than can be safely handled with bare skin. It's all about the current. Voltage is the potential difference, current is the number of electrons that actually move over a given period of time. Sufficient current kills at less than a single volt.


once i put 48 volts on my tongue to test a toy design, i just needed a quick test to see if the design was safe, since it was theoretically possible for a child to put that voltage in their mouth ... if they really worked at it.

i was just being thorough. :o

my tongue still hasn't recovered ! ;D

[Dogman]

Not to make light of the incident but your average static shock touching a doorknob after walking across carpet can be in the 10s of thousands of volts. Tesla coils generate high frequency voltages in the millions of volts than can be safely handled with bare skin. It's all about the current. Voltage is the potential difference, current is the number of electrons that actually move over a given period of time. Sufficient current kills at less than a single volt.


once i put 48 volts on my tongue to test a toy design, i just needed a quick test to see if the design was safe, since it was theoretically possible for a child to put that voltage in their mouth ... if they really worked at it.

i was just being thorough. :o

my tongue still hasn't recovered ! ;D


As long as your eyes do not light off like old style flashbulbs/cubes, you are good! :o

[Spectrism]

Not to make light of the incident but your average static shock touching a doorknob after walking across carpet can be in the 10s of thousands of volts. Tesla coils generate high frequency voltages in the millions of volts than can be safely handled with bare skin. It's all about the current. Voltage is the potential difference, current is the number of electrons that actually move over a given period of time. Sufficient current kills at less than a single volt.


once i put 48 volts on my tongue to test a toy design, i just needed a quick test to see if the design was safe, since it was theoretically possible for a child to put that voltage in their mouth ... if they really worked at it.

i was just being thorough. :o

my tongue still hasn't recovered ! ;D


Yeah... I saw your picture....

http://blog.hydroflask.com.s102190.gridserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dog_w_tongue.jpg

[gunDriller]

Yeah... I saw your picture....

http://blog.hydroflask.com.s102190.gridserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dog_w_tongue.jpg


http://blog.hydroflask.com.s102190.gridserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dog_w_tongue.jpg

that's a crazy looking dog.

any relation to the Silver Dog ?

[solid]

I was tased in training, for the experience, I volunteered for it. It was 50,000 volts. They put a prong on my upper shoulder, and one on my lower back. I was lying down, prone, and they went at it for about 5 seconds.

I swear my body lifted off the ground at that time. Every muscle in your body locks up, and pain is all you know. Your entire existance is just, pain. The worst kind. It's an out of body experience in that your whole world is pain for that short time. When they stop, back to normal, like nothing happened..

Lot's of respect for the taser after that. Effective, scary effective, imo.

[Ponce]

Solid? are you a cop? >:(

[7th trump]

More cream on my hand and holding a cup of coffee.......no Utube for me.

Last time that I did something so stupid was back in Cuba when I was 12, there was a bottle with a little bit of gas in it and I wanted to find out what would happen if I were to throw a match in it.....boy did I find out, there was a BIG PUFFFFFF and it burn the front of my hair my eyebrow and my face a little bit........

"To think and do nothing is worse than knowing nothing"... Ponce


i tried lighting a fire in the fireplace using gasoline about 2 months ago.

Poof - but no boom - i was lucky.

boy, that was dumb.

but it did help me realize just how much energy gasoline has in it.

so it was a combination of idiocy and augmenting my technical education.


i talked to a truck driver who used to haul gas. he said he was more scared when his truck was empty than when it was full, because of the fumes.

Going through college I delived semi parts. Anyway, across from the warehouse was the shop where they welded on semi's. One day they had a tanker come in that was leaking about half way up from a crack on a weld.
The shop manager sent the tanker to get filled with gasoline before any possible welding on it would happen.
I asked why and he looked at me really strange and said you dont want any air inside the tanker what so ever.
I said yaeh but what about the gas leaking out?
He said I could control the fire on the outside of the tank with retardent, but not if any spark found it way in the inside.
Made sense to me and like everyone else in that shop we left him to do his job of welding on the tanker.

[po boy]

More cream on my hand and holding a cup of coffee.......no Utube for me.

Last time that I did something so stupid was back in Cuba when I was 12, there was a bottle with a little bit of gas in it and I wanted to find out what would happen if I were to throw a match in it.....boy did I find out, there was a BIG PUFFFFFF and it burn the front of my hair my eyebrow and my face a little bit........

"To think and do nothing is worse than knowing nothing"... Ponce


i tried lighting a fire in the fireplace using gasoline about 2 months ago.




Poof - but no boom - i was lucky.

boy, that was dumb.

but it did help me realize just how much energy gasoline has in it.

so it was a combination of idiocy and augmenting my technical education.


i talked to a truck driver who used to haul gas. he said he was more scared when his truck was empty than when it was full, because of the fumes.


I tried the same thing when I was a kid, flash of flames throughout the house then gone in a split second.
I almost thought I was seeing things until I saw my friends signed (sp) eyebrows.

[Dogman]

More cream on my hand and holding a cup of coffee.......no Utube for me.

Last time that I did something so stupid was back in Cuba when I was 12, there was a bottle with a little bit of gas in it and I wanted to find out what would happen if I were to throw a match in it.....boy did I find out, there was a BIG PUFFFFFF and it burn the front of my hair my eyebrow and my face a little bit........

"To think and do nothing is worse than knowing nothing"... Ponce


i tried lighting a fire in the fireplace using gasoline about 2 months ago.




Poof - but no boom - i was lucky.

boy, that was dumb.

but it did help me realize just how much energy gasoline has in it.

so it was a combination of idiocy and augmenting my technical education.


i talked to a truck driver who used to haul gas. he said he was more scared when his truck was empty than when it was full, because of the fumes.


I tried the same thing when I was a kid, flash of flames throughout the house then gone in a split second.
I almost thought I was seeing things until I saw my friends signed (sp) eyebrows.



Yep

If the temperature is just right , you will see the gasoline, what you do not see is the vapors spreading along the floor (heaver than air) and the longer you wait the more the vapors will spread! In open air when lighted it is impressive watching the flame front spread out, sometimes all around you! Good/bad lesson to learn. :o

[willie pete]

I used to do component level repairs on monitors for IBM. One day when removing a CRT I went to remove the anode not realizing it was still on/hot (suction cup that connects to the red area below). Only 25,000 volts but a few seconds of that level of current, and you're dead, or messed up in the hospital.

So I grabbed it with both hands, like anyone would normally do if it's turned off. ::) It is truly indescribable.

Both time and space warped audibly and visually, felt like compressed air sizzling at my finger tips, threw me backwards violently. Total out of body experience. My fingertips, knuckles, wrists, shoulders, elbows, and knees (a bit) were sore for about 3 days. Took me 15 mins to figure out what actually happened, then I was generally clueless for about an hour until I could play it all back in my head...then it was like a grand realization what occurred. Like waking from a dream. Freaky as hell.

For comparison I usually wire all 120v house switches live or not, doesn't matter to me. 120v from the wall is a little tickle by comparison. Don't mess with electricity.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/productimages/s4/4065036.jpg




what was this device plugged into too? 110v? I'm no electrical engineer, so I'm ignorant on the subject of detailed electricity...if it was plugged into 110v, how cojld you get more than that out? is that what a "capacitor" does? what about a "transformer?" do they somehow take in a set amount of electricity and magnify it or decrease it?

I plugged a heat lamp in one time and it bit me good, my arm at the shoulder was sore for a day, felt like someone punched me... :D

[Dogman]

I used to do component level repairs on monitors for IBM. One day when removing a CRT I went to remove the anode not realizing it was still on/hot (suction cup that connects to the red area below). Only 25,000 volts but a few seconds of that level of current, and you're dead, or messed up in the hospital.

So I grabbed it with both hands, like anyone would normally do if it's turned off. ::) It is truly indescribable.

Both time and space warped audibly and visually, felt like compressed air sizzling at my finger tips, threw me backwards violently. Total out of body experience. My fingertips, knuckles, wrists, shoulders, elbows, and knees (a bit) were sore for about 3 days. Took me 15 mins to figure out what actually happened, then I was generally clueless for about an hour until I could play it all back in my head...then it was like a grand realization what occurred. Like waking from a dream. Freaky as hell.

For comparison I usually wire all 120v house switches live or not, doesn't matter to me. 120v from the wall is a little tickle by comparison. Don't mess with electricity.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/productimages/s4/4065036.jpg




what was this device plugged into too? 110v? I'm no electrical engineer, so I'm ignorant on the subject of detailed electricity...if it was plugged into 110v, how cojld you get more than that out? is that what a "capacitor" does? what about a "transformer?" do they somehow take in a set amount of electricity and magnify it or decrease it?

I plugged a heat lamp in one time and it bit me good, my arm at the shoulder was sore for a day, felt like someone punched me... :D


Depends, but somewhere 20 - 50 thousand volts out of the flyback transformer to the tube.

[gunDriller]

sort of along those lines - i found some roadkill gasoline to go with my roadkill skunk.

a red plastic 5 gallon gas can fell off someone's truck & was laying on the side of the road.

it had about a gallon of green gasoline in it. i poured it into a jar (well, jars). i showed one of them to the guy at the gas station. he said gasoline is not normally green.

but it does smell like gasoline.

so i'm not sure what to do with the green gasoline. barbecue the road-kill skunk on St. Patrick's Day ? :o


then there's the issue of how to clean the gas can. though i'd put a cup of regular gasoline in it and swish it around, & pour that out.

any suggestions on how to clean the gas can, or on what the green gasoline smelling stuff actually is ?

[Dogman]

sort of along those lines - i found some roadkill gasoline to go with my roadkill skunk.

a red plastic 5 gallon gas can fell off someone's truck & was laying on the side of the road.

it had about a gallon of green gasoline in it. i poured it into a jar (well, jars). i showed one of them to the guy at the gas station. he said gasoline is not normally green.

but it does smell like gasoline.

so i'm not sure what to do with the green gasoline. barbecue the road-kill skunk on St. Patrick's Day ? :o


then there's the issue of how to clean the gas can. though i'd put a cup of regular gasoline in it and swish it around, & pour that out.

any suggestions on how to clean the gas can, or on what the green gasoline smelling stuff actually is ?




2 cycle engine oil is making it green.

[gunDriller]

2 cycle engine oil is making it green.


sounds like i found somebody's motorcycle gasoline can that fell off their truck.

i'll bet they were cussing when they got home !

[Bullion_Bob]

I used to do component level repairs on monitors for IBM. One day when removing a CRT I went to remove the anode not realizing it was still on/hot (suction cup that connects to the red area below). Only 25,000 volts but a few seconds of that level of current, and you're dead, or messed up in the hospital.

So I grabbed it with both hands, like anyone would normally do if it's turned off. ::) It is truly indescribable.

Both time and space warped audibly and visually, felt like compressed air sizzling at my finger tips, threw me backwards violently. Total out of body experience. My fingertips, knuckles, wrists, shoulders, elbows, and knees (a bit) were sore for about 3 days. Took me 15 mins to figure out what actually happened, then I was generally clueless for about an hour until I could play it all back in my head...then it was like a grand realization what occurred. Like waking from a dream. Freaky as hell.

For comparison I usually wire all 120v house switches live or not, doesn't matter to me. 120v from the wall is a little tickle by comparison. Don't mess with electricity.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/content/productimages/s4/4065036.jpg




what was this device plugged into too? 110v? I'm no electrical engineer, so I'm ignorant on the subject of detailed electricity...if it was plugged into 110v, how cojld you get more than that out? is that what a "capacitor" does? what about a "transformer?" do they somehow take in a set amount of electricity and magnify it or decrease it?

I plugged a heat lamp in one time and it bit me good, my arm at the shoulder was sore for a day, felt like someone punched me... :D


110V. This little device (about the size of a fist) steps up the voltage exactly like a transformer. The two dials on it are variable resistors that control the screen brightness, and image focus.

http://www.yoreparo.com/foros/files/flyback_transformer_197.jpg

A capacitor stores voltage across a series of metal plates inside that are physically separated. Capacitors can pack a punch as well as they go up in size (farads), and they're absolutely nasty when they blow up. Seen that a few times, sounds like a firecracker going off, and that's with the small ones. I would imagine a 1 or 2 farad capacitor exploding would be similar to a pipe bomb.

Was a not so great job I did ages ago. Not a task you want to get complacent about, but after a few hundred tube replacements, it's bound to happen eventually as people come up and talk to you, the phone rings, etc...

This is neat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LalPKzlbW6Q&feature=related



Example of flyback transformer voltage. The suction cup was cut off, and replaced with an alligator clip.

Pretty crazy. You do not want to touch that situation with your bar hands...trust me. ;) ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=655uZTywQ5I&feature=related