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Ponce
5th June 2011, 10:20 AM
Sure, silver at $853......but......what will you be able to buy with it?....Coke at one time was a nickel and now it goes from $1-1.58, and more, so that in the future it could cost $10-18.......is like I like to say, what I am doing is "preservation" of capital, by holding silver, and not an investment.
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How gold could reach $13,644 an ounce and silver $853.


Doyen of the gold bugs Jim Sinclair has set readers of his popular website a challenge to come up with the price per ounce that gold will reach if the precious metal is fully monetized. He says the correct answer is $13,644.

Mr Sinclair explains his thinking: ‘Because gold is held by many central banks, once as a reserve currency but now as an inventory currency, it functions as a swing asset to balance the International Balance sheet of the US. Central banks are sellers of dollars but still hold, by default, large dollar inventories.

Chinese hedging

‘China has hedged its dollar position 50 per cent through commitments to long term dollar commercial agreements, pay in, mineral, and energy deals internationally. That is an act of pure genius. We can assume other central banks still hold 90 per cent of their reported dollar positions, on average unhedged by commercial obligation positions.

‘In crisis times, the US dollar price of gold always seeks to balance the International Balance Sheet of the USA. Therefore, take 90 per cent of international US dollar debt less China and then add 50 per cent of the US debt owned by China. Then divide that number by the ounces supposed to be owned by the US Treasury. The result is where gold wants to go.’

Mr Sinclair says that when he did a similar calculation in 1974 that gave him a target of $900 for gold, which actually touched $850 in 1980. Will he be right again this time with $13,644 an ounce or will it be different?

Currency not commodity

What ArabianMoney likes about his approach, aside from being right before, is that it looks at gold from the point of view of an alternative currency, and not a quasi-industrial commodity. Silver should be looked at in the same light (click here). Platinum on the contrary is not and never will be a monetary metal.

You only have to ask why the Chinese authorities are stocking up on precious metals. This is an alternative currency to the faltering dollar, and euro for that matter.

For there is a crisis coming in paper or fiat money. The authorities have been issuing it by the bucketload to offset the global financial crisis. China is as guilty as the US and Europe with its incredible stimulus equal to half-a-year of GDP. It worked to the extent of unfreezing trade and credit and preventing a bigger deflation of assets.

But this nasty medicine has a painful side-effect: inflation and currency devaluation. Investors are always a bit slow to catch on but they are beginning to understand that holding currency of a fixed supply like gold and silver is the way to beat the crisis in paper money.

Gold rush

Once the general public finally gets it there will be a mad rush into this asset class and a spike in prices to levels now thought completely impossible. That might indeed put gold at $13,644 an ounce, and with the long-term average gold-to-silver ratio back to 16 that would put silver at $853 an ounce, the old high for gold in 1980.

Who knows, of course, what inflation will be by then. Certainly $13,644 will not be worth the same as it is now. You might have $5,000 gold and $300 silver in real terms at today’s purchasing power.

Equally remarkably Mr Sinclair does not expect gold and silver to crash back down from these levels as the adjustment to a new gold and silver standard will be a permanent feature of the global monetary system. And if you look back at the 1970s gold never did return back to its fixed price of $35 at the start of that decade either.

Meanwhile, the June issue of the ArabianMoney newsletter is out (click here) with more ideas on how best to invest in precious metals to capture this remarkable increase in prices. Mind you we were discussing a gold backed currency two years ago (click here).


http://news.goldseek.com/PeterCooper/1306764000.php

palani
5th June 2011, 11:18 AM
If gas reaches $20 a gallon you might expect $250 silver and $8,000 gold.

If a weeks supply of groceries costs you $100 now under these conditions you could expect to buy a weeks worth of groceries for $500.

PMs going up is not a free ride. It appears these metals provide a buffer against inflation. Other inflation buffers might be land or anything non-perishable. Food grown for the market, while perishable, provides short term inflation protection.

Ponce
5th June 2011, 12:03 PM
Like I posted........"preservation of capital"

gunDriller
5th June 2011, 01:17 PM
i saw Classic Coke at a garage sale.

they were asking $3 for a 6 pack, the small bottles, 40 years old.

i offered $2. never struck a deal.

i remember drinking it. it really is a premium beverage, other than rotting one's teeth.

Ponce
5th June 2011, 01:43 PM
Gun? I have two bottles boxes of Coke, with the 8 figure bottles......I am talking about the old boxes divided in 24 compartments.

Publico Pro Se
5th June 2011, 02:00 PM
If you want Classic Coke made with old fashioned sugar go to Costco and buy the Mexican Coke. 24 - 12 oz bottles for $19.

Publico Pro Se
5th June 2011, 02:01 PM
Oh, and I'd be a millionaire if silver hits $853.

Ponce
5th June 2011, 02:56 PM
Publico? all that is has to do is to hit $50.00 once again...... ;D ;D ;D

palani
5th June 2011, 04:57 PM
Oh, and I'd be a millionaire if silver hits $853.


Why wait? Move to Zimbabwe with $1 u.s. in your pocket and you will be an instant millionaire.

I wouldn't place too much stock in being a millionaire in the U.S. under the conditions being described.

Want coffee? $10,000.

steyr_m
5th June 2011, 07:15 PM
i saw Classic Coke at a garage sale.

they were asking $3 for a 6 pack, the small bottles, 40 years old.


I think Coke Classic came out in the mid-80's after the release of the new Coke [that tasted like Pepsi] 85-86? ...somewhere around there.

solid
6th June 2011, 09:04 AM
I think Coke Classic came out in the mid-80's after the release of the new Coke [that tasted like Pepsi] 85-86? ...somewhere around there.


That was actually one of the most brilliant, and deceptive, marketing scams ever.

They did that to switch from sugar to hfcs. The "new" coke, they knew the customers would hate. So when they switched back to the classic with hfcs....everyone overlooked the change and was happy to have what they "thought" was the original coke, just because it tasted the same, close enough at least. It was all a plan and worked perfectly for them.

I boycott all sodas. Ocassionally I may have a Hanson's or Jaretos, with a buritto, as a treat. But never any sodas with hfcs.

Oh, and I'd just like to see $50 silver soon!

chad
6th June 2011, 09:12 AM
I think Coke Classic came out in the mid-80's after the release of the new Coke [that tasted like Pepsi] 85-86? ...somewhere around there.


That was actually one of the most brilliant, and deceptive, marketing scams ever.

They did that to switch from sugar to hfcs. The "new" coke, they knew the customers would hate. So when they switched back to the classic with hfcs....everyone overlooked the change and was happy to have what they "thought" was the original coke, just because it tasted the same, close enough at least. It was all a plan and worked perfectly for them.

I boycott all sodas. Ocassionally I may have a Hanson's or Jaretos, with a buritto, as a treat. But never any sodas with hfcs.

Oh, and I'd just like to see $50 silver soon!


my frienb's dad used to work for coca cola. what you stated is 100% truth, i've heard him talk about it numerous times.