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Ares
1st July 2011, 07:31 PM
Ever since the famous Stanley Druckenmiller Op Ed published in early May, which called for an outright default of the US, saying it would not be the end of the world, and in fact the US would emerge stronger as a result of finally taking the first steps to getting its fiscal house in order, there has been a visible shift regarding the US debt ceiling discussion, with republicans (so far) digging in and refusing to budge on the issue. After all, on the surface Druckenmiller is absolutely correct: with interest rates near record lows for the past 3 years, interest payments would be manageable for a long time even if general rates were to surge due to the Treasury's fixing of low cash coupons over the past 3-4 years, amounting to about 20-30% of all annual tax receipts. There is however one very big problem with this argument, one which we pointed out back in April 2010 when we said that "What people don't realize is that...unless the UST can roll its debt not on a monthly but now weekly basis in greater and greater amounts, the interest rate doesn't matter. All it takes is one semi-failed auction and it's game over as hundreds of billions in bills become payable." Enter the always forgotten maturing debt argument. And as a just released presentation by the Bipartisan Policy Center titled "Debt Limit Analysis" reminds us, aside from the actual deficit funding math, which is that in August there is a $134.3 billion cash shortfall that has to be funded with debt, there is a far greater risk. Or, put numerically, 467.4 billion far greater risks. This is the amount of debt that matures through August 31, and has to be rolled over or the US is bankrupt... in every sense of the word. Once again, America's politicians and media get broadsided by the definition of gross versus net. Because, in reality, the inability to issue more debt post August 3 means a halt to all new debt issuance. Which, unfortunately because it means Geithner's scaremongering is actually correct, would imply the end for the debt ponzi.

Below is the maturity schedule in August from the BPC:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/draghi/BPS_0.jpg

And their commentary, which recaps what we said 14 months ago:

Treasury must “roll over” almost $500 b in debt that matures during August 2011
New debt is issued and the proceeds are used to repay the maturing debt plus interest due
Treasury will require market access throughout August to avoid defaulting on maturing debt
About $380 b in short-term T-Bills maturing, plus $90 b in long-term securities
Quarterly refunding auction on August 15

And that's not it. On a Net basis, there is in addition another $134.3 billion in deficit that must be satisfied somehow. Alas, after August 3rd it will become impossible to plunder savings accounts going forward which means a game over in the kick the can down the road game:
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/draghi/funding%207.1_0.jpg

Breaking down the spending side:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/draghi/spending%207.1_0.jpg

The BPC's observations on what happens on August 4 absent a deal are rather spot on:

If the debt ceiling is not raised by August 2, all three ratings agencies will put the United States on watch for a downgrade, at a minimum. Fitch (6/8/11):
“If the debt ceiling is not raised by the [X Date] and timely and full payment of its obligations, including Treasuries, is not secure, the U.S. sovereign rating will be placed on Rating Watch Negative.”
An actual downgrade would cause major losses among holders
Even without downgrade, it is likely that rates would increase, perhaps significantly
Less likely, but possible, that Treasury would lose market access during such an unprecedented event and default

As a reminder we are now 32 days away from D-Day, and about 60 days from the need to fund half a trillion, all of it with new gross debt issuance.

To date, there has been no progress in D.C. at all. Will there be progress in the next 4 weeks? They better, or as demonstrated, the extend and pretend game, contrary to the well-meaning intentions of the likes of Drucknemiller, is about to come to a very violent end.

Full presentation (http://www.bipartisanpolicy.org/sites/default/files/Debt%20Ceiling%20Analysis.pdf)

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/t-minus-two-months-500-billion-ticking-timebomb

Serpo
1st July 2011, 08:18 PM
http://www.printeresting.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/making-money1-1024x902.jpg

Wouldnt it be easier if they just sent everyone one of these.............

osoab
1st July 2011, 09:08 PM
It's just a flesh wound!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

osoab
1st July 2011, 09:10 PM
So, if we make it through the end of August, what about Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec? What kind of rollover are we needing for these months?

Neuro
2nd July 2011, 01:52 AM
The juggernaut is coming. Further the treassury needs to pay back what they have taken from the pension funds over the last months too!

Gaillo
2nd July 2011, 03:06 AM
A half a trillion here... a half a trillion there... pretty soon we're talking REAL money! ;D

Ares
2nd July 2011, 07:45 AM
Neuro made a good point. Not only do they have to find funding for the half a trillion FRN's they have to roll over next month. But they also need to put back the money they stole from federal pensioners.

Recipe for disaster here.

gunDriller
2nd July 2011, 09:02 AM
So, if we make it through the end of August, what about Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec? What kind of rollover are we needing for these months?

http://harveyorgan.blogspot.com/2011/07/another-gold-and-silver-raidcot.html

Harvey Organ's Saturday July 2 report does a good job explaining ... he integrates articles from 'the usual suspects' like Zero Hedge, including the one above.

by the time i got to the end of Harvey's piece, one emotion/ impression was pretty strong - JESUS. TROUBLE AHEAD.

there are SO many details it's hard to digest all at once.


very interesting to see a re-quote of the 2006 Business week article about the US gov. exempting companies doing business with the US gov. from the requirement to report financial results according to GAAP (generally accepted accounting principles), for "national security reasons".

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2006/nf20060523_2210.htm

"President George W. Bush has bestowed on his intelligence czar, John Negroponte, broad authority, in the name of national security, to excuse publicly traded companies from their usual accounting and securities-disclosure obligations. Notice of the development came in a brief entry in the Federal Register, dated May 5, 2006, that was opaque to the untrained eye."

Supposedly, presidents always have that authority - the incident in 2006 was the first time it was delegated ... Bush being less than bright, not surprising he would want to delegate it.


The bottom line - JPMorgue etc. can say whatever they want when reporting financial results.

i wonder about 2 outcomes -
* by 2012, the US gov. admits "yeah, we're printing money again."
* they bite the bullet, and let the economy enter the Greater Depression that was postponed in 2008/2009.

hard to read their minds, but we know one thing for sure - they look out for #1 ... which is not us.

madfranks
2nd July 2011, 01:55 PM
So the US has to come up with more than half a trillion dollars in one month to cover it's obligations, oh and QE2 just ended with the promise of no more. Hmm. I'm going to make a wild prediction here, but I'm guessing that the "lender of last resort" (Federal Reserve) is going to have to step in and buy all that new debt. While QE2 totaled $600 billion over almost a year, QE3 is going to start with a fresh $600 billion just from the get go.

Gaillo
2nd July 2011, 02:09 PM
So the US has to come up with more than half a trillion dollars in one month to cover it's obligations, oh and QE2 just ended with the promise of no more. Hmm. I'm going to make a wild prediction here, but I'm guessing that the "lender of last resort" (Federal Reserve) is going to have to step in and buy all that new debt. While QE2 totaled $600 billion over almost a year, QE3 is going to start with a fresh $600 billion just from the get go.

Thus the realization that there was a good reason that usury has been prohibited by many great civilizations throughout history! ;)

mick silver
2nd July 2011, 02:16 PM
it only paper go and have a fun 4 of july guys

gunDriller
3rd July 2011, 06:56 AM
So the US has to come up with more than half a trillion dollars in one month to cover it's obligations, oh and QE2 just ended with the promise of no more. Hmm. I'm going to make a wild prediction here, but I'm guessing that the "lender of last resort" (Federal Reserve) is going to have to step in and buy all that new debt. While QE2 totaled $600 billion over almost a year, QE3 is going to start with a fresh $600 billion just from the get go.

what would be REALLY handy for Insiders would be if there was a period of massive deflation - so they can buy assets for CHEAP.

but they can't let that go on TOO long, because people will eventually misbehave = more Joe Stack's.

i don't yet perceive that the US gov. wants to have the US disintegrate completely.

but there is a lot of logic to having a period of deflation, followed by more money printing.

my guess is, 6 months of no more overt QE ... this will put the US in national fire sale mode, which will benefit those with surplus FRN's.

then Sir Bendover will ride to the rescue with more QE - in early 2012 - before the election.


i can't say that scenario is "for sure" but it is logical, and it reconciles observed phenomenon (Obama wants to be re-elected ... maybe ... the Talmud-worshippers want to enjoy the national garage/estate sale before the next injection of freshly created $$.)

madfranks
3rd July 2011, 10:18 AM
what would be REALLY handy for Insiders would be if there was a period of massive deflation - so they can buy assets for CHEAP.

but they can't let that go on TOO long, because people will eventually misbehave = more Joe Stack's.

i don't yet perceive that the US gov. wants to have the US disintegrate completely.

but there is a lot of logic to having a period of deflation, followed by more money printing.

my guess is, 6 months of no more overt QE ... this will put the US in national fire sale mode, which will benefit those with surplus FRN's.

then Sir Bendover will ride to the rescue with more QE - in early 2012 - before the election.


i can't say that scenario is "for sure" but it is logical, and it reconciles observed phenomenon (Obama wants to be re-elected ... maybe ... the Talmud-worshippers want to enjoy the national garage/estate sale before the next injection of freshly created $$.)

I just wonder, if the Fed doesn't step in, does the US have the ability to raise $600 billion in one month by themselves?

osoab
3rd July 2011, 05:46 PM
I just wonder, if the Fed doesn't step in, does the US have the ability to raise $600 billion in one month by themselves?


Goldman's prop trading desk may have to work some overtime, but I think they are up to it.