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osoab
12th July 2011, 07:43 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1310452930

I assume this is from earlier in the year due to the snow. From Michigan I believe.

Action starts about 8:50 when the cops show up.

Cebu_4_2
12th July 2011, 08:19 PM
Houghton Lake MI says on the car

Gaillo
12th July 2011, 08:23 PM
Some hilarious conversation right there! ;)

My favorite part: "no, I don't go in the store... I don't want to scare the sheep!" ;D

midnight rambler
12th July 2011, 08:30 PM
"I'm going to lecture you, that's my job." lol

Gaillo
12th July 2011, 08:33 PM
"It's my job to lecture you." lol

Yep. Those swine sure took on the "public safety lecturer" attitude fast with the guy, most likely because they realized they couldn't do anything legally...

I was pretty amused with the "we don't want a bunch of people open carrying" part... in effect saying they don't want people lawfully exercising their rights. ::)

The stench of sausage was in the air...

platinumdude
12th July 2011, 08:41 PM
Maybe the cops shouldn't open carry. It worries me when they do.

Joe King
12th July 2011, 09:27 PM
Yep. Those swine sure took on the "public safety lecturer" attitude fast with the guy, most likely because they realized they couldn't do anything legally....

They always try to resort to "lecture mode" when they realize that you know you have them dead to rights, but then they just go away.
...and let me tell you, it's a wonderful feeling to realize that you do, while it's happening. But when it's over you just might feel the need for a good clean shower.

Just know that when faced with police officers in a situation like that, if you don't know EXACTLY where you stand relative to the law, it will likely have a very different outcome. Even if you are technically in the right.

Lets face it. People actually excersing their Constitutional Rights in an overt manner scares most people today.
...and sadly, the police today are accustomed to dealing with people who are mostly ignorant of those Rights.

midnight rambler
12th July 2011, 09:35 PM
People actually excersing their Constitutional Rights

I had to burst your bubble, but it really, really needs bursting - there is no such thing as 'Constitutional rights'. Using such a term demonstrates ignorance. The Constitution is not the source of your rights. Rights come from the Creator and are antecedent to the Constitution.


The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God. --JFK

Joe King
12th July 2011, 10:05 PM
Sorry, should have added the word "protected" in between. lol

But you do understand my point about if you don't know what the law says about what it is you are doing, and are getting hasseled by "the man", you don't stand a chance trying to assert yourself or your Rights. No matter where they come from.

vacuum
13th July 2011, 12:10 AM
I had to burst your bubble, but it really, really needs bursting - there is no such thing as 'Constitutional rights'. Using such a term demonstrates ignorance. The Constitution is not the source of your rights. Rights come from the Creator and are antecedent to the Constitution.

I think you're both right, it all depends on exactly what your definitions are for each word you're using. You could also both be wrong, depending on the definitions you're using as well.

Joe King
13th July 2011, 01:52 AM
Vacuum, I agree with TT's interpretation as it is technically correct and it is what I meant when I made my post.
...and I don't know about him, but I don't like the idea of us both being wrong. lol



Just to be clear, anytime I use the word "Rights" I'm always referring to those of the unalienable type as protected by the Constitution.
When I refer to "Rights" as those handed down by gov decree, I always use the word "civil" in front of it because I have a hard time spelling "privlidge" right. lol