vacuum
16th July 2011, 01:38 AM
I'm just trying to put the pieces together a little bit. Just organizing some thoughts in my mind, this post is as much for me as for anyone reading. Not looking for anyone's opinions here on the validity of these sources. I'm just clustering things that seem independent but supporting of each other.
Cluster 1
Atomic hydrogen and water effects.
Exhibit A)
Stumbled upon Keshe's work while listening to the Progressive Technology Hour archives. His claims are super far out there (unlimited free energy, anti gravity, universal medicine), and he says he's working with many governments on slowly bringing this technology to humanity (but only the Iranian government is working with him currently). He says he's behind the odd announcement by Iran a little while ago about having a flying saucer. Keshe claims to have new understandings of energy and matter, basing it all on interacting plasmas. I haven't read his books, but he appears to be using atomic hydrogen in a special way involving scalar waves.
http://www.keshefoundation.com/home.html
http://www.vortexnetworknews.com/Progressive_Tech_2011.html (scroll down to april 3 and april 9 for the interviews. There are also other interviews Keshe has done, including for red ice radio, blog talk radio, its rain making time, and the sterling alan show - check keshe's forums for the links)
Exhibit B)
A few years ago I remember seeing a free energy claim blurb about atomic hydrogen having strange effects and someone claiming free energy from it. It was an experimenter who experimented with an atomic hydrogen welder when atomic hydrogen welding was more used, apparently. Here's the story I was able to dig up from the web, some guy in 1926:
http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/AtomicH/atomicH.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5410-atomic-hydrogen-fuel.html
Interesting, now we've got two weird claims involving atomic hydrogen plasmas - Keshe and this hydrogen beam welder (which is a plasma).
Exhibit C)
Found this weird guy on the web, while looking for more info. Here's something he wrote about hydrogen plasma:
http://jonsthings.blogspot.com/2011/05/hydrogen-plasma.html
He claims nuclear fusion is happening all around us, in biological systems and especially in turbulent water. What's very interesting is this statement (http://www.keshefoundation.com/keshe_introduction.html) on Keshe's website: "We have proven that, the strength of the magnetic field and gravity of planets is more dependent on the composition of the material(s) and the speed of motion in the center core of the planet, rather than being dependant on the size, or heat or any other factors in the structure of the planet or star." Kind of a strange statement....he's basically saying this effect is dependent on the speed of motion of a certain material (we presume it's atomic hydrogen), rather than great temperatures and pressures of fusion energy today.
Its interesting how Jon also says it's the turbulent motion of water that creates fusion.
Exhibit D)
These things bring to mind something I remember from a few years ago. At face value, it seems completely ridiculous and off the wall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw
Basically, some guy discovered that a vibrating boiler pipe seemed to make a boiler super efficient. So he started making these rotating drums with holes drilled in them. Water goes through the holes, which presumably create extreme turbulence, and you get 70% more heat out than you put in. We see the same effect of turbulent water (which is pretty darn close to hydrogen atoms for anyone who understands the extreme polarity of H2O).
Exhibit E)
All of this obviously brings to mind Viktor Schauberger. You can read about him here:
http://www.newphys.se/fnysik/2_1/schauberger/index.html
Basically, he demonstrated very interesting effects with water in a vortex. Aligns with keshe's comment on speed of motion...the only way to move very fast in the center of a planet would be a vortex.
Exhibit F)
Another interesting thing is that Mr. Keshe claims his systems operate exactly like planets and stars do. What's interesting with the abiotic oil theory is that hydrocarbons are supposedly created within the earth. Well, what if there is a hydrogen plasma within the core of the earth? What if neutrinos from the sun (or some other effect) creates atomic hydrogen within the center of the earth, which then via nuclear reactions also creates carbon and other elements. This would align with the evidence that oil is replenished and isn't from dead dinosaurs.
Exhibit G)
Cold fusion seems to generally involve hydrogen at some point. I believe the palladium used in many cold fusion devices is porous in such a way as to allow hydrogen atoms into it but not anything larger. Interesting coincidence.
Here's the latest cold fusion device...Rossi's Ecat. It uses nickel powder and hydrogen gas: http://pesn.com/2011/07/21/9501874_Rossis_Self_Sustaining_One_Megawatt_Reacto r/
Exhibit H)
There are many watergas claims out there - super efficient electrolysis, things running on water.
Exhibit I)
Anyone reading esoteric literature usually seems to find some common ideas. One of the big ones is that everything is motion and vibrations. We hear about frequencies all the time referring to almost everything in new age stuff. Another common thing is that more subtle energies, more intelligence, etc, is associated with the lightest and fastest material. Hydrogen is the lightest and fastest atom. The ether itself is so light and fast it cannot be observed. Interesting that we're talking about fast moving hydrogen here involved in these strange effects.
Exhibit J)
The universe is known to be composed of mostly hydrogen. According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_the_chemical_elements), the universe is 74% hydrogen by mass (much greater by volume I'm sure). Plasma is also the most common state of matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29) in the universe, according to wikipedia. So it's interesting that the universe is mostly made of hydrogen plasma, and at the same time our physicists are at a complete loss to explain the universe. According to physicists, our universe is made of of like 73% "dark energy" which we can't observe (hehe, that percentage is interesting), and 22% dark matter. So they can't explain it's behavior at all.
As a side note, helium, oxygen, and carbon are the next three most abundant elements. So there is a ton of H2O out there.
In conclusion, any one of these claims or exhibits seem completely absurd in and of themselves. However, they are surprisingly coherent.
The search continues...
Cluster 1
Atomic hydrogen and water effects.
Exhibit A)
Stumbled upon Keshe's work while listening to the Progressive Technology Hour archives. His claims are super far out there (unlimited free energy, anti gravity, universal medicine), and he says he's working with many governments on slowly bringing this technology to humanity (but only the Iranian government is working with him currently). He says he's behind the odd announcement by Iran a little while ago about having a flying saucer. Keshe claims to have new understandings of energy and matter, basing it all on interacting plasmas. I haven't read his books, but he appears to be using atomic hydrogen in a special way involving scalar waves.
http://www.keshefoundation.com/home.html
http://www.vortexnetworknews.com/Progressive_Tech_2011.html (scroll down to april 3 and april 9 for the interviews. There are also other interviews Keshe has done, including for red ice radio, blog talk radio, its rain making time, and the sterling alan show - check keshe's forums for the links)
Exhibit B)
A few years ago I remember seeing a free energy claim blurb about atomic hydrogen having strange effects and someone claiming free energy from it. It was an experimenter who experimented with an atomic hydrogen welder when atomic hydrogen welding was more used, apparently. Here's the story I was able to dig up from the web, some guy in 1926:
http://www.lateralscience.co.uk/AtomicH/atomicH.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5410-atomic-hydrogen-fuel.html
Interesting, now we've got two weird claims involving atomic hydrogen plasmas - Keshe and this hydrogen beam welder (which is a plasma).
Exhibit C)
Found this weird guy on the web, while looking for more info. Here's something he wrote about hydrogen plasma:
http://jonsthings.blogspot.com/2011/05/hydrogen-plasma.html
He claims nuclear fusion is happening all around us, in biological systems and especially in turbulent water. What's very interesting is this statement (http://www.keshefoundation.com/keshe_introduction.html) on Keshe's website: "We have proven that, the strength of the magnetic field and gravity of planets is more dependent on the composition of the material(s) and the speed of motion in the center core of the planet, rather than being dependant on the size, or heat or any other factors in the structure of the planet or star." Kind of a strange statement....he's basically saying this effect is dependent on the speed of motion of a certain material (we presume it's atomic hydrogen), rather than great temperatures and pressures of fusion energy today.
Its interesting how Jon also says it's the turbulent motion of water that creates fusion.
Exhibit D)
These things bring to mind something I remember from a few years ago. At face value, it seems completely ridiculous and off the wall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw
Basically, some guy discovered that a vibrating boiler pipe seemed to make a boiler super efficient. So he started making these rotating drums with holes drilled in them. Water goes through the holes, which presumably create extreme turbulence, and you get 70% more heat out than you put in. We see the same effect of turbulent water (which is pretty darn close to hydrogen atoms for anyone who understands the extreme polarity of H2O).
Exhibit E)
All of this obviously brings to mind Viktor Schauberger. You can read about him here:
http://www.newphys.se/fnysik/2_1/schauberger/index.html
Basically, he demonstrated very interesting effects with water in a vortex. Aligns with keshe's comment on speed of motion...the only way to move very fast in the center of a planet would be a vortex.
Exhibit F)
Another interesting thing is that Mr. Keshe claims his systems operate exactly like planets and stars do. What's interesting with the abiotic oil theory is that hydrocarbons are supposedly created within the earth. Well, what if there is a hydrogen plasma within the core of the earth? What if neutrinos from the sun (or some other effect) creates atomic hydrogen within the center of the earth, which then via nuclear reactions also creates carbon and other elements. This would align with the evidence that oil is replenished and isn't from dead dinosaurs.
Exhibit G)
Cold fusion seems to generally involve hydrogen at some point. I believe the palladium used in many cold fusion devices is porous in such a way as to allow hydrogen atoms into it but not anything larger. Interesting coincidence.
Here's the latest cold fusion device...Rossi's Ecat. It uses nickel powder and hydrogen gas: http://pesn.com/2011/07/21/9501874_Rossis_Self_Sustaining_One_Megawatt_Reacto r/
Exhibit H)
There are many watergas claims out there - super efficient electrolysis, things running on water.
Exhibit I)
Anyone reading esoteric literature usually seems to find some common ideas. One of the big ones is that everything is motion and vibrations. We hear about frequencies all the time referring to almost everything in new age stuff. Another common thing is that more subtle energies, more intelligence, etc, is associated with the lightest and fastest material. Hydrogen is the lightest and fastest atom. The ether itself is so light and fast it cannot be observed. Interesting that we're talking about fast moving hydrogen here involved in these strange effects.
Exhibit J)
The universe is known to be composed of mostly hydrogen. According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_the_chemical_elements), the universe is 74% hydrogen by mass (much greater by volume I'm sure). Plasma is also the most common state of matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29) in the universe, according to wikipedia. So it's interesting that the universe is mostly made of hydrogen plasma, and at the same time our physicists are at a complete loss to explain the universe. According to physicists, our universe is made of of like 73% "dark energy" which we can't observe (hehe, that percentage is interesting), and 22% dark matter. So they can't explain it's behavior at all.
As a side note, helium, oxygen, and carbon are the next three most abundant elements. So there is a ton of H2O out there.
In conclusion, any one of these claims or exhibits seem completely absurd in and of themselves. However, they are surprisingly coherent.
The search continues...