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osoab
17th July 2011, 08:32 AM
Why is this dipwad still alive?

A little while back there were some members claiming/thinking that Greenpuke helped orchestrate the takedown ala Ayn Rand.

I hope that this is enough to dispel that thought.

'We're better off hiring skilled immigrants': Alan Greenspan hits out at young American workforce that 'doesn't shape up' to baby boom generation (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2015027/Were-better-hiring-skilled-immigrants-Alan-Greenspan-hits-young-American-workforce-doesnt-shape-baby-boom-generation.html#ixzz1SCKPNlrR)



Former Federal Reserve chairman, Alan Greenspan, has lashed out at America's younger workforce, saying they don't match up to the 'baby boom' generation.


Mr Greenspan said the U.S. is in the process of seeing the baby boomers, which he called 'the most productive, highly skilled, educated part of our labour force' retire.


'They are being replaced by groups of young workers who have regrettably scored rather poorly in international educational match-ups over the last two decades,' he added in the interview with Globalist.


He went on to say how the average income of U.S. households headed by 25-year-olds and younger had been declining in comparison to the average income of the baby boomer population.


'This is a reasonably good indication that the productivity of the younger part of our workforce is declining relative to the level of productivity achieved by the retiring baby boomers,' he said adding: 'This raises some major concerns about the productive skills of our future U.S. labour force.'

Mr Greenspan then suggested it would be better for America to hire skilled immigrants to counter the worrying trend.


'Most high-income people in our country do not realise that their incomes are being subsidised by their protection from competition from highly skilled people who are prevented from immigrating to the United States,' he said.

'But we need such skills in order to staff our productive economy, so that the standard of living for Americans as a whole can grow.

'My view is that we should give a green card to every immigrant who gets an advanced degree in the United States.


'The proportion of those people who will be terrorists is minuscule. That would have a major positive economic impact.'
Mr Greenspan argued that societies with the most advanced, cutting-edge technologies tended to have the highest standards of living throughout history.


'If the United States is now slipping in this regard, it is basically because of our increasingly dysfunctional primary education system,' he said.

Twisted Titan
17th July 2011, 08:41 AM
The Skilled labor went the same place the capital flowed to.

Where there was decentralized money system

MNeagle
17th July 2011, 08:42 AM
'If the United States is now slipping in this regard, it is basically because of our increasingly dysfunctional primary education system,' he said.

Well, he's right on that regard. And who's to blame for this education decline??

Perhaps keeping manufacturing jobs HERE, instead of off-shoring them is also a remedy!

Ponce
17th July 2011, 10:02 AM
"We are living from the fruit tree of past grnerations and not from one of our own"...Ponce

If our future is in the hands of our childrens we then have NO future...one or two of them with brains will not make up for 10,000 without them.

First post of the day.............good morning to one and all.

po boy
17th July 2011, 10:59 AM
"We are living from the fruit tree of past grnerations and not from one of our own"...Ponce

If our future is in the hands of our childrens we then have NO future...one or two of them with brains will not make up for 10,000 without them.

First post of the day.............good morning to one and all.

The past generations practice of and continued practice of communism have destroyed this country and it's children's future.

I feel bad for the kids today they have been sold down the road and are made fun of for their ignorance by the very communists that help to screw them over.

Ponce
17th July 2011, 11:04 AM
When you remember who were the founders of the "Communist Party" then what you say is very true.

Glass
17th July 2011, 07:49 PM
'My view is that we should give a green card to every immigrant who gets an advanced degree in the United States.

Green Cards to everyone who can take on $150,000.00 + of personal, non dischargable debt.

Does the US subscribe to the UN Charter on Human Rights?

po boy
17th July 2011, 07:56 PM
The right to self determination?

Joe King
17th July 2011, 09:15 PM
Green Cards to everyone who can take on $150,000.00 + of personal, non dischargable debt.

Does the US subscribe to the UN Charter on Human Rights?

Yep. That's what it boils down to. Either have enough of your own kids in sufficient quantity and teach them to want to run in the rat race in order to keep the ponzi-scheme going, or the 3rd World will do it for you.

Remember people, we got revenue streams that need to be maintained in this country. lol

shakinginmyshoes
17th July 2011, 10:27 PM
This whole idea that U.S. primary school system is inadequate is a LIE.

Compare European-descent kids in America to Euro kids in Europe -- the American kids do *better*.
(Scandinavian kids in Minnesota do better than Scandinavian kids in Scandinavia.)
Asian kids in America do better than Asian kids in Asia.
Mexican kids in America do better than Mexican kids in Mexico.
Black kids in America do better than Black kids in Africa.
etc. etc.

The reason America is dropping in OECD ranking? Because we White Americans are being race-replaced by 3rd worlders (Mostly mestizos from Mexico and Central America, but others, as well).

Can't have a first-world country with a 3rd-world population.

Joe King
17th July 2011, 10:34 PM
If all those kids from all those other places do so much better here than in their countries of origin, who is it that is doing worse in order to have the lower OECD ranking in the first place?
You seem to have plenty of 3rd World countries covered in your list of places whos kids do better here. So who's kids are pulling down the average?

shakinginmyshoes
17th July 2011, 11:06 PM
who is it that is doing worse in order to have the lower OECD ranking in the first place?
You seem to have plenty of 3rd World countries covered in your list of places whos kids do better here. So who's kids are pulling down the average?

Mestizo kids.

Mestizo kids in America do better than mestizo kids in Mexico.

But mestizo kids in America do worse, far, far worse, than American (i.e., White) kids.

Since 50% of schoolkids in America are now mestizo, it's no wonder the achievement of schoolkids in American schools is dropping like a rock.

Were there no mestizos here and America's schoolkids were still 90% American (i.e., White) as it used to be when American (i.e., White) men sent American (i.e., White) men to the moon, America would still be first in the world.

Immigration is NOT the solution to the drop in achievement of school kids in America. Immigration is the CAUSE.

Can't have a 1st-world country with a 3rd-world population.

Joe King
17th July 2011, 11:17 PM
Thanks for clarifying. I was wondering, if all those kids from all over the World did better here than in their home countries, how could all kids here be worse than anywhere else?
You do have the globe pretty well covered in your post. lol

shakinginmyshoes
17th July 2011, 11:47 PM
, if all those kids from all over the World did better here than in their home countries, how could all kids here be worse than anywhere else

Much of the world has an average IQ of less than 90.

Bring in those sub-90 IQ'ers en masse into America, such that they are now half the schoolkids, of course educational achievement will fall off a cliff, as compared to when the schoolkids were Americans (i.e., White) with our 3-digit average IQ.

But that fact is NOT evidence that the school system is bad, only that half the schoolkids are dim.

A horse can't learn calculus, and neither can a human with an IQ of 85 (which is the IQ of the average mestizo kid).

Proof that the American school system is OUTSTANDING is that those 85-IQ mestizo kids in America are learning basic addition and subtraction. In Mexico, they would not, by and large. But it is not POSSIBLE to get someone with an IQ of 85 to achieve at the level of a well-taught kid with an IQ of 100 or higher.

But you see, it's raaaaaaaassssiissssst to say that mestizos are dim as compared to American (i.e., White) kids, and racism is the worst sin a White can commit, so it doesn't get said..

So Greenspam gets away with saying, "American kids are lazy," all the while knowing people assume he's talking about White American kids..

Truth is, American (i.e, White) kids are working their arses off and being blamed for the dullwittedness of the mestizo kids they are forced to share a classroom with.

Joe King
18th July 2011, 12:22 AM
I get it. My statement you responded to was simply the thought I had after reading your first post on it. But thanks again for clarifying your thoughts.

The only part I do disagee with is characterizing all of them as having below average IQ
There are smart people from other countries too.

shakinginmyshoes
18th July 2011, 01:11 AM
The only part I do disagee with is characterizing all of them as having below average IQ
There are smart people from other countries too.

Proportions matter.

In Mexico, the upper class, the smart ones, the doctors, dentists, professors at U of Guad, are almost entirely almost pure-blood Spaniards (i.e., White). But THOSE PEOPLE aren't the ones we're getting. We are getting in U.S. the mestizos and full-blooded Indians who ARE IQ 85. We are getting the people who couldn't make it in Mexico, that is to say, Mexico's underclass, Mexico's welfare burden. The Spaniards in Mexico love it. They are exporting their unwanted brown welfare burdens for White Americans to provide for.

Certainly, when you look at immigrants from other countries, the Chinese are smart; IQ of 99 verbal and 103 visuospatial. In fact, since you have to be smart enough to be rich enough in China to buy a plane ticket to begin with to immigrate, it's possible that Chinese immigrants to America are smarter than average Chinese.

But since mestizos only need dash or swim across the border, we are getting the bottom of the barrel of Mexico's people.

That said, however, *I* do NOT believe that "smart Asian immigrants' are any solution, either. For this simple reason: Chinese, like the bulk of humanity, are very ethnocentric. They are not coming to America out of any particular love for Americans, but only to take advantage of our system.

And they spy. Oh, boy, do they spy.

China is NOT a friend to us American-Americans, and Chinese immigrants are just as dangerous, albeit through a different mechanism, as mestizos. Mestizos will ruin America through their unbridled breeding of vast numbers of parasitic welfare eaters,
--but Chinese, though fewer in number, are dangerous BECAUSE they are smart. They will undermine America by stealing our successes for their own Chinese.

Joe King
18th July 2011, 01:35 AM
How about people from India? Are they our friends? Some of them are pretty smart too. I mean, they do know about the virtues of gold, which is more than most Americans.

shakinginmyshoes
18th July 2011, 09:57 AM
"How about people from India? Are they our friends? Some of them are pretty smart too. I mean, they do know about the virtues of gold, which is more than most Americans. "

If Indians are *in* India, sure. Or, at least, they've not demonstrated themselves to be enemies.


If they are *from* India (i.e., they've moved to America) then they are high-IQ parasites, just like the other high-IQ parasites all here to work the system / rent-seek / sponge off from the prosperity that American-Americans built to pass down to their posterity.

And, I know all the arguments: High-IQ non-Whites might come up with innovations that can benefit average Americans, yada, yada, yada.

BUT, in this age of instant communications, any ideas they MIGHT come up with that might be useful to Americans can be sent by email. We don't NEED their persons standing on our soil. We certainly do NOT need them taking seats away from American (i.e. White) kids in universities, holding positions in gov't, or taking jobs or businesses that should be held by American-Americans.

When you point this out to any of them, the kicking screaming squalling and accusations of YOU EVIL RACIST WHITEY, YOU! commence, which is PROOF that they need US and we do NOT need them.

Santa
18th July 2011, 01:59 PM
We're better off hiring skilled immigrants in order to destroy the last vestiges of a Western hegemonic social order
so that the Great Moloch's Babylonian One World Order can at long last be implemented according to the ancient plan.

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MNeagle
18th July 2011, 02:35 PM
This whole idea that U.S. primary school system is inadequate is a LIE.

Can't have a first-world country with a 3rd-world population.


I have mixed feelings about this:

1.) The public schools have 'dumbed down' passing requirements to accomodate the minorities; yet,

2.) They have also advanced the requirements onto lower grade levels. My oldest was doing simple reading in kindergarten, simple math: age appropriate. Two years later, my youngest kid was doing more complex reading requirements, and more complex math.

Things my eldest was learing in 1st or 2nd grade, are now being pushed onto kindergartners.

We're fortunate we have bright kids, but I wonder how this push is affecting others (& hence the scores).

osoab
18th July 2011, 04:07 PM
I have mixed feelings about this:

1.) The public schools have 'dumbed down' passing requirements to accomodate the minorities; yet,

2.) They have also advanced the requirements onto lower grade levels. My oldest was doing simple reading in kindergarten, simple math: age appropriate. Two years later, my youngest kid was doing more complex reading requirements, and more complex math.

Things my eldest was learing in 1st or 2nd grade, are now being pushed onto kindergartners.

We're fortunate we have bright kids, but I wonder how this push is affecting others (& hence the scores).

Could one really trust the scores put out by school districts after the Atlanta thing?