My spidey senses are tingling

[JohnQPublic]

We all know something big is happening right now. I think we are witnessing TPTB tearing each other up (as Max Keiser and Zero Hedge are implying). I think the Murdoch thing could be much deeper then we can even imagine right now.

A couple of things I wonder about-

1. Any connection between Murdoch and Sun Myung Moon
2. How Evans Ambrose Pritchard may end up playing into this

Just thoughts that came up as I watched some of the events unfolding.

[Canadian-guerilla]

if there's any substance to the " Faux news hacking 9/11 victims " rumours
Murdoch may end up living in israel, for his own safety


Insight, a magazine owned by the Washington Times, cited unnamed sources in saying that young Barack attended a madrassah, or Muslim religious school, in Indonesia

Fox News picked up the Insight charge on two of its programs, playing up an angle involving Hillary Clinton

Insight, like the Washington Times, is owned by a company controlled by the Rev. Sun Myung Moon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/21/AR2007012101161.html

[Libertytree]

So are mine JQP, maybe not for the exact same reasons but all of these little storms seem to me to be building collectively into some sort of critical mass that will soon start to unfold suddenly and catastrophically.

I have a friend that I had a conversation with this past weekend, he asserts that the illusion can be kept afloat indefinetley until they choose the time to allow its collapse, while I maintain that economics are like gravity and that the fiat foundation is crumbling naturally from its obviously flawed nature and construction. Anyone care to chime in on that argument?

[JohnQPublic]

So are mine JQP, maybe not for the exact same reasons but all of these little storms seem to me to be building collectively into some sort of critical mass that will soon start to unfold suddenly and catastrophically.

I have a friend that I had a conversation with this past weekend, he asserts that the illusion can be kept afloat indefinetley until they choose the time to allow its collapse, while I maintain that economics are like gravity and that the fiat foundation is crumbling naturally from its obviously flawed nature and construction. Anyone care to chime in on that argument?

The gods of Olympus thought the same thing. Turns out they are not gods but mythology.

[midnight rambler]

So are mine JQP, maybe not for the exact same reasons but all of these little storms seem to me to be building collectively into some sort of critical mass that will soon start to unfold suddenly and catastrophically.

I have a friend that I had a conversation with this past weekend, he asserts that the illusion can be kept afloat indefinetley until they choose the time to allow its collapse, while I maintain that economics are like gravity and that the fiat foundation is crumbling naturally from its obviously flawed nature and construction. Anyone care to chime in on that argument?

Perhaps it's both, and the money powers will time their horseshit to coincide with the natural cycle.

Personally I'm convinced that the money powers work tirelessly at maintaining the status quo of the illusion and any collapse will largely be timed as to when according to their agenda. IMO if they were in a position to pull off their ultimate plan they would have executed it by now. The system on its own should have already collapsed naturally decades ago (again, IMO). But then again I could be wrong.

[JohnQPublic]

Murdoch-Moon connection from 2007 (Democratic Party rag involving Obama):

http://www.democrats.com/right-wing-billionaires-smear-obama

[BillBoard]

I was thinking the Murdoch thing may be pay back for Dominique Strauss-Kahn take down.

[JohnQPublic]

I was thinking the Murdoch thing may be pay back for Dominique Strauss-Kahn take down.

This event also stimulates spidey senses.

A lot of stuff is going down. Alex Jones was on Russia today (I watched on Keiser's site) talking about Bohemian Grove, I guess which is occuring right now.

[gunDriller]

We all know something big is happening right now. I think we are witnessing TPTB tearing each other up (as Max Keiser and Zero Hedge are implying). I think the Murdoch thing could be much deeper then we can even imagine right now.

A couple of things I wonder about-

1. Any connection between Murdoch and Sun Myung Moon
2. How Evans Ambrose Pritchard may end up playing into this

Just thoughts that came up as I watched some of the events unfolding.


the Murdoch/Moon sub-Axis of Evil also has George Bush 41 as one of its major players.

well documented by Robert Parry at
http://consortiumnews.com/

Parry doesn't go as deep as i'd like to see him go - but he's still one of the good guys.

among journalists, he's among the top 5 in terms of investigating Iran-Contra.

[Son-of-Liberty]

So are mine JQP, maybe not for the exact same reasons but all of these little storms seem to me to be building collectively into some sort of critical mass that will soon start to unfold suddenly and catastrophically.

I have a friend that I had a conversation with this past weekend, he asserts that the illusion can be kept afloat indefinitely until they choose the time to allow its collapse, while I maintain that economics are like gravity and that the fiat foundation is crumbling naturally from its obviously flawed nature and construction. Anyone care to chime in on that argument?

I think you are right. They can manipulate all they want but eventually it will collapse under it's own weight like any other ponzi scheme. The build up, the police state is in response to the inevitable collapse they need it in position to keep the masses under control when they loose everything.

I think they are scared at this point, too many people are waking up. Lately I have been talking about some of this stuff at the gym with a bunch of knuckle heads and they don't scoff anymore. The awakening is parabolic.

[mick silver]

do you guys think they can hide for long if the stuff starts falliing apart ? we all maybe getting a little taste of how far the rabbits hole gos

[Son-of-Liberty]

Maybe not hide so much as leave the country. Bush family has a huge piece of land in South America somewhere. I think many of them have plans to go offshore. Pretty hard for an angry broke hoard to get at someone that has a small private army and is located half way across the world. Local yes men could be hanging high though.

[midnight rambler]

do you guys think they can hide for long if the stuff starts falliing apart ? we all maybe getting a little taste of how far the rabbits hole gos

No doubt they think they will have enough meatshields behind us and them. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. We'll see.

[JohnQPublic]

do you guys think they can hide for long if the stuff starts falliing apart ? we all maybe getting a little taste of how far the rabbits hole gos

Well, in the case of Murdoch, they appear to be wrapping up some loose ends:

Phone Hacking Scandal Turns Tragic: NOTW Whistleblower Found Dead (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/phone-hacking-scandal-turns-tragic-notw-whistleblower-found-dead)

[JohnQPublic]

Naked Launch
(http://www.dancooper.tv/NakedLaunch.htm)The Prologue
by Dan Cooper

"...Fox News had gotten Brock's telephone records from the phone company, and my phone number was on the list. Deep in the bowels of 1211 Avenue of the Americas, News Corporation's New York headquarters, was what Roger called the Brain Room. Most people thought it was simply the research department of Fox News. But unlike virtually everybody else, because I had to design and build the Brain Room, I knew it also housed a counterintelligence and black ops office. So accessing phone records was easy pie."

[ximmy]

Murdoch's Fox News pushing Mansion Mystery Story: CEO's Girlfriend Dies, Then Son
Pharmaceutical exec's son dies in fall at mansion -- four days after man's girlfriend was found dead...

All interconnected, Kill a few there, slander here, but always avert your eyes...

[EE_]

Well, in the case of Murdoch, they appear to be wrapping up some loose ends:

Phone Hacking Scandal Turns Tragic: NOTW Whistleblower Found Dead (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/phone-hacking-scandal-turns-tragic-notw-whistleblower-found-dead)

Let that be a lesson to all whistleblowers!
Must have had some really good info to wind up dead?

[Awoke]

Crazy. I had a dream last night that TSHTF, and that the army was flying in low over my city with F-14 tomcats and Stealth fighters, etc. The army was deployed on the streets and setting up check points, etc. They had tanks driving through the streets and were knocking on people's doors.

I was trying to figure out how I was going to get home to my guns and ammo, preps, etc. It was night time. They weren't harrasing everyone they saw, but they were herding the general public. I remember bing so thankful I had a tactical shotgun, and assault rifle and whatever else.

The dream ended before it was over, but I remember the anxiety of knowing I was prepped, but not easily being able to get to my preps. There was military presence everywhere. I remember that even when I got to my stuff, I didn;t take all of it. Just the choice stuff. Weird.

[mightymanx]

There will be a "unifying event" soon to get people to rally around the flag just like 9-11 and the dissent will be quelled yet again.

[EE_]

There will be a "unifying event" soon to get people to rally around Israel just like 9-11 opened the door to kill Muslims, and the dissent will be quelled yet again, while we send our young men off to die fighting for Israel.

I changed your quote, just a little...

[midnight rambler]

Crazy. I had a dream last night that TSHTF, and that the army was flying in low over my city with F-14 tomcats and Stealth fighters, etc. The army was deployed on the streets and setting up check points, etc. They had tanks driving through the streets and were knocking on people's doors.

I was trying to figure out how I was going to get home to my guns and ammo, preps, etc. It was night time. They weren't harrasing everyone they saw, but they were herding the general public. I remember bing so thankful I had a tactical shotgun, and assault rifle and whatever else.

The dream ended before it was over, but I remember the anxiety of knowing I was prepped, but not easily being able to get to my preps. There was military presence everywhere. I remember that even when I got to my stuff, I didn;t take all of it. Just the choice stuff. Weird.

I had a dream very similar to that over 20 years ago. It kept getting worse and worse, however at the end it turned out ok 'cause it was the ending we're all familiar with.

[MNeagle]

& what ending is that MR??

[ximmy]

& what ending is that MR??

They stop you at a checkpoint, order out of the car, and before you can respond, start hitting the glass with the butt of their rifles, break the glass, you are the next target... the end

[vacuum]

Perhaps it's both, and the money powers will time their horseshit to coincide with the natural cycle.

I think this is exactly right. They can't control when things happen, but they can instead work with the natural cycles try an leverage them to have the outcomes they desire.

[midnight rambler]

& what ending is that MR??

The Spirit in the Sky emerged from the awesome(!) boiling clouds and said, "Behold, I come quickly." (the moment just prior to that I was saying to myself, "UH-OH!!!" keeping in mind that a whole bunch of other extremely heavy stuff had already just gone down, it was quite a relief to hear that)

[JohnQPublic]

Sun website hacked: false story (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/lulzsec-back-after-hacking-front-page-sun-redirecting-story-about-rupert-murdochs-death)about Ruport Murdoch's death posted!

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[Spectrism]

Spidey tingle.... can mean only one thing.... the black widow is about to strike.

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[Book]

I think they are scared at this point, too many people are waking up.



http://www.prunejuicemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Voters-1.jpg

Define "waking up".

::)

[Glass]

Phone-hacking whistleblower found dead
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/07/19/2501378/art-seanhoare-420x0.jpg


Hacking scandal claims Victorian top-cop contender (http://www.theage.com.au/world/hacking-scandal-claims-victorian-topcop-contender-20110719-1hm3u.html)



Cameron under fire as senior police quit (http://www.theage.com.au/world/cameron-under-fire-as-senior-police-quit-20110718-1hlqv.html)

A former News of the World reporter who alleged his then-editor, Andy Coulson, "encouraged" him to hack phones was found dead on Monday.

Sean Hoare, who made claims in a New York Times article about British Prime Minister David Cameron's former communications chief, was discovered at his home in Watford, Hertfordshire, after concerns were raised about his whereabouts.

His death is being treated as "unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious", Hertfordshire police said.

A Hertfordshire Police spokesman said: "At 10.40am today, police were called to Langley Road, Watford, following the concerns for welfare of a man who lives at an address on the street.

"Upon police and ambulance arrival at a property, the body of a man was found.
"The man was pronounced dead at the scene shortly after.

"The death is currently being treated as unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious.

Read more @ the Age (http://www.theage.com.au/world/phonehacking-whistleblower-found-dead-20110719-1hm1z.html#ixzz1SVG4BrHr)

[osoab]

I had something tingle. Then I itched it.

[mightymanx]

I changed your quote, just a little...


Good call you forgot spying on everyone, founding the American KGB, and completly destroying the Constitution though.

[JohnQPublic]

I had something tingle. Then I itched it.

I do believe we can do without details on that one, osoab. ;)

[osoab]

I do believe we can do without details on that one, osoab. ;)

I was being facitious. Slightly crude yes.

Looking at the numbers. 911 hid 1 trillion lost by DoD. They have to fund about 600 billion by August give or take some. So either it will be double the size of the event for less money or smaller event to equate the money.

I'm just not feeling it.

[MAGNES]

1. Any connection between Murdoch and Sun Myung Moon


What did you hear or see, any links ?

There is big links, the Moonies are totally allied with the Bush Crime Family,
and involved in intelligence operations, disinformation, have put out propaganda
on major Bush Family scandals, etc, books on intelligence angle make reference
to this constantly, Bush and Moonies.

Murdoch is a leading NeoCon , part of the racket, who is controlling who ?
Putting out disinformation from the top down, managing it, they know the
truth, they are owned and or working with the intelligence agencies, Israel
is involved too. I would put Murdoch at the top of the food chain taking
orders directly from Israel and Rothchild/Rockefeller.

So they are all working together, prior to Bush II we had Bush I major scandals,
even financial, Savings and Loans, Iran Contra, BCCI, all related crimes by same
networks of people, other scandals going back, Bush I CIA scandals, Carters men
cleaned up and closed them down, the NeoCons have been involved in everything
going way back as well. Israel is always involved but gets a free pass always.

Lost of dirty dealings among the thieves at the top as well between each other.

Did Murdoch piss off the wrong guy ? People at the top being pushed around had enough ?

What happened to the revenge if the DIA and MIL, I was expecting far more.
Why no burning of Obongo the way they burned Bush II ?
Maybe this may snowball to this and contribute to it. ? Hopefully.

[MAGNES]

Well, in the case of Murdoch, they appear to be wrapping up some loose ends:

Phone Hacking Scandal Turns Tragic: NOTW Whistleblower Found Dead (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/phone-hacking-scandal-turns-tragic-notw-whistleblower-found-dead)

This is proof intelligence agencies are involved. MI5 , MI6, other units.
Israel is involved, they have killers running around.

Royal family phones were hacked, stories pulled right away.

Machon speaks out on this scandal, have a look at this information.
She spoke out on Princess Diana murder. Former MI5.


from WRH, http://whatreallyhappened.com/

Spies Lies and Whistleblowers, MACHON, worth getting to know,
They got her weighing in, extraordinary info,
the police involved are counter terror or
security services themselves. Police State.
This reeks of what the NeoCons were doing
in the USA, spying, blackmail, smearing,
disinfo, even honey traps, payoffs, and more.
Sibel Edmonds under oath.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2aGVp1Skys

[JohnQPublic]

This is proof intelligence agencies are involved. MI5 , MI6, other units.
Israel is involved, they have killers running around.

Royal family phones were hacked, stories pulled right away.

Machon speaks out on this scandal, have a look at this information.
She spoke out on Princess Diana murder. Former MI5.



Interesting.

Maybe Recca Brooks chose to be arrested on a Sunday so she did not end up having an accident in her garden. Of course there are always those jailhouse suicides.

[gunDriller]

Murdoch is a leading NeoCon , part of the racket, who is controlling who ?
Putting out disinformation from the top down, managing it, they know the
truth, they are owned and or working with the intelligence agencies, Israel
is involved too. I would put Murdoch at the top of the food chain taking
orders directly from Israel and Rothchild/Rockefeller.

as far as "who is controlling who ?", the players, like Murdoch, are self-selected. you have to be a greedy psychopath to join the club.

i perceive that there is a sort of points system that determines who has how much power.

e.g. "you don't piss of George Bush 41". he has a lot of power in the Zionist empire - his dad was key in making it happen, by financing Hitler during WW2 ... after which Prescott Bush was elected Senator from Connecticut.

i reckon those years as VP & President are worth $20 Billion (for 8 years) and $20 billion (for 4 years). as VP, Bush 41 did Iran-Contra. as President, he did Iraq War 1, which Israel REALLY liked.

those are arbitrary numbers. maybe we could make a board game. "you too, can be a Zionist psychopath, but just for an evening."


since Israel is the primary sh!t stirrer in their SICK game, they have to let the other players get some benefits. that revolves around mineral resources, primarily oil ... Iraq alone has $10 Trillion + at today's prices (110 billion barrels of light sweet crude with a low extraction cost).

a good part of the sick game involves not talking about the sick sh!t that Israel has already done. talking nice about Israel is a job pre-requisite. Condoleeza Rice is good at it, so she gets an oil tanker named after her.

[PatColo]

a thread as repository of all the dots lining up suggesting mutiny in PTB-land is a good idea. But this thread will have to suffice.;)

this belongs in the stew,
Fake "reformed moozlem terrorist" rakes in big DHS bucks (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?51981-Fake-quot-reformed-moozlem-terrorist-quot-rakes-in-big-DHS-bucks)

why would an organ of the ZioStream Media [ZSM] like CNN/ AC Cooper ("keepin' 'em honest" ;)) be covering a story of a fake ter'st raking in taxpayer bucks... pulling on "dangerous threads" which threaten to unravel the larger warrenterra hoax altogether??

Smells like spoiled bagels.

[Book]

We all know something big is happening right now.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q63plx5NClI


:) JQP's thread title reminds me of this song

[Awoke]

Looking at the numbers. 911 hid 1 trillion lost by DoD. They have to fund about 600 billion by August give or take some. So either it will be double the size of the event for less money or smaller event to equate the money.

I'm just not feeling it.

You're assuming that they are doing all this just for the sake of hiding money. There is much more to it than just hiding money.
They want martial law and an NAU dictatorship to start the NWO in earnest. They need to figure out a way to remove the guns from the people. The only way is to incite bloddy violence, ala revolution, race war, anarchy, whatever they can pull out of their hat.

If they can get America caught up in a blue collar bloodbath, once it is all over, the people would be happy to give up their arms and trust the new, peaceful government, who promises to protect them.

[sirgonzo420]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q63plx5NClI


:) JQP's thread title reminds me of this song

Leonard Cohen, eh?

Your post reminds me of:

"First we'll take Manhattan... then we'll take Berlin"


They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
For trying to change the system from within
I'm coming now I'm coming to reward them
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I'm guided by a signal in the heavens
I'm guided by this birthmark on my skin
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I'd really like to live beside you, baby
I love your body and your spirit and your clothes
But you see that line there moving through the station?
I told you I told you I told you I was one of those

You loved me as a loser
But now you're worried that I just might win
You know the way to stop me
But you don't have the discipline
How many nights I prayed for this: to let my work begin
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

I don't like your fashion business, mister
And I don't like these drugs that keep you thin
I don't like what happened to my sister
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

And thank you for those items that you sent me
The monkey and the plywood violin
I practiced every night and now I'm ready
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

Remember me, I used to live for music
Remember me, I brought your groceries in
It's Father's Day and everybody's wounded
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnCR8kSSmqw

[gunDriller]

They want martial law and an NAU dictatorship to start the NWO in earnest. They need to figure out a way to remove the guns from the people. The only way is to incite bloddy violence, ala revolution, race war, anarchy, whatever they can pull out of their hat.

If they can get America caught up in a blue collar bloodbath, once it is all over, the people would be happy to give up their arms and trust the new, peaceful government, who promises to protect them.

well, they did start the NWO in earnest, though it might be called New Israeli Order.

Israel had a hard-on for de-fanging Iraq, Bush41 went along for the ride.

as did Bush43.

they have martial law. maybe not the way it's shown in the movies, but very real.

the number of news stories about American cops using excessive force, kicking in the 'wrong' door on occasion, side-stepping the fact that they very rarely have a legitimate reason to kick in the 'right' door.

TSA, capital controls, border controls (for Canadians). a wierd form of Martial Law, as one would expect in the United States of Israel.

[Neuro]

well, they did start the NWO in earnest, though it might be called New Israeli Order.

Israel had a hard-on for de-fanging Iraq, Bush41 went along for the ride.

as did Bush43.

they have martial law. maybe not the way it's shown in the movies, but very real.

the number of news stories about American cops using excessive force, kicking in the 'wrong' door on occasion, side-stepping the fact that they very rarely have a legitimate reason to kick in the 'right' door.

TSA, capital controls, border controls (for Canadians). a wierd form of Martial Law, as one would expect in the United States of Israel.
True it is like Martial Law Light... Boiling the frog slowly!

[Joe King]

That's ok. They can boil slowly all they want, because they're going to get a big surprise at 211 degrees when the frog jumps out of the pot and into their lap.

[PatColo]

from thread:


Turkish PM to Israel–”Apologise for flotilla deaths or I go to Gaza” (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52137-Turkish-PM-to-Israel%E2%80%93%E2%80%9DApologise-for-flotilla-deaths-or-I-go-to-Gaza%E2%80%9D&p=436598#post436598)


Erdogan to Israel–”Apologise for flotilla deaths or I go to Gaza” (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/erdogan-to-israel-apologise-for-flotilla-deaths-or-i-go-to-gaza/)

Posted: July 21, 2011 by crescentandcross in Uncategorized (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/)
http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2011/01/erdogan.jpg
In announcing his intention to visit the Gaza Strip, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister, has raised the stakes in an ongoing crisis with Israel, observers say.

Read the rest of this entry » (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/erdogan-to-israel-apologise-for-flotilla-deaths-or-i-go-to-gaza/#more-24097)


Attorney General to Netanyahu: Apologize to Turkey or face indictments for IDF troops (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/attorney-general-to-netanyahu-apologize-to-turkey-or-face-indictments-for-idf-troops/)

Posted: July 21, 2011 by crescentandcross in Uncategorized (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/)
http://www.sadaka.ie/About_Palestine/Gaza/Gaza_Files/Israeli_assault_on_Mavi_Marmara_1.jpg
Sources say Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein believes apology would convince Turkey not to file lawsuits against IDF officers who took over the Mavi Marmara in 2010.

Read the rest of this entry » (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/attorney-general-to-netanyahu-apologize-to-turkey-or-face-indictments-for-idf-troops/#more-24103)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavi_Marmara

The massacre took place 5/31/10, so it's a wonder why the Turk gummit officials are only now pressing for a mere "apology" with this PR move... with the consequence for Izzy's "failure to apologize" being the threat of legal action:o... wtf? Turks and other countries who's citizens were murdered should have thrown the book at Izzy beginning 5/31/10!

call this another "dot" suggesting mutiny occurring in PTB land!

[dys]

Something big, something soon. Take a look at movies and tv to get a clue into what.

dys