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iOWNme
19th July 2011, 06:25 AM
Thank You for Your Service?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance250.html



It is without question that Americans are in love with the military. Even worse, though, is that their love is unqualified, unconditional, unrelenting, and unending.
I have seen signs praising the troops in front of all manner of businesses, including self-storage units, bike shops, and dog grooming.
Many businesses offer discounts to military personnel not available to doctors, nurses, and others who save lives instead of destroy them.
Special preference is usually given to veterans seeking employment, and not just for government jobs.
Many churches not only recognize veterans and active-duty military on the Sunday before holidays, they have special military appreciation days as well.
Even many of those who oppose an interventionist U.S. foreign policy and do not support foreign wars hold the military in high esteem.
All of these things are true no matter which country the military bombs, invades, or occupies. They are true no matter why the military does these things. They are true no matter what happens while the military does these things. They are true no matter which political party is in power.
The love affair that Americans have with the military – the reverence, the idolatry, the adoration, yea, the worship – was never on display like it was at the post office the other day.
While at the counter shipping some packages, a U.S. soldier, clearly of Vietnamese origin in name and appearance, dressed in his fatigues, was shipping something at the counter next to me. The postal clerk was beaming when he told the soldier how his daughter had been an MP in Iraq. Three times in as many minutes I heard the clerk tell the soldier – with a gleam in his eye and a solemn look on his face – "Thank you for your service." The clerk even shook the soldier’s hand before he left.
I could not believe what I was seeing and hearing, and I am no stranger to accounts of military fetishes in action.

Aside from me not thanking that soldier for his service – verbally or otherwise – I immediately thought of four things.
One, what service did this soldier actually render to the United States? If merely drawing a paycheck from the government is rendering service, then we ought to thank every government bureaucrat for his service, including TSA goons (http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance236.html). Did this soldier actually do anything to defend the United States, secure its borders, guard its shores, patrol its coasts, or enforce a no-fly zone over U.S. skies? How can someone blindly say "thank you for your service" when he doesn’t know what service was rendered?
Two, is there anything that U.S. soldiers could do to bring the military into disfavor? I can’t think of anything. Atrocities are dismissed as collateral damage in a moment of passion in the heat of battle by just a few bad apples. Unjust wars, we are told, are solely the fault of politicians not the soldiers that do the actual fighting. Paul Tibbets and his crew are seen as heroes for dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima. Before he died, Tibbets even said (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/06/nuclear.japan) that he had no second thoughts and would do it again. I suspect that if the United States dropped an atomic bomb tomorrow on Afghanistan and Pakistan, killing everyone and everything, and declaring the war on terror over and won, a majority of Americans would applaud the Air Force crew that dropped the bomb and give them a ticker-tape parade.
Three, why is it that Americans only thank American military personnel for their service? Shouldn’t foreign military personnel be thanked for service to their country? What American military worshippers really believe is that foreign military personnel should only be thanked for service to their government when their government acts in the interests of the United States. Foreign soldiers are looked upon as heroic if they refuse to obey a military order to shoot or kill at the behest of their government as long as such an order is seen as not in the interests of the United States. U.S. soldiers, however, are always expected to obey orders, even if it means going to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, or Libya under false pretenses.

And four, what is a Vietnamese man – who most certainly has relatives, or friends or neighbors of relatives, that were killed or injured by U.S. bombs and bullets during the Vietnam War – doing joining the U.S. military where he can be sent to shoot and bomb foreigners like the U.S. military did to his people?
And aside from these four things, I’m afraid I must also say: Sorry, soldiers, I don’t thank you for your service.


I don’t thank you for your service in fighting foreign wars.
I don’t thank you for your service in fighting without a congressional declaration of war.
I don’t thank you for your service in bombing and destroying Iraq and Afghanistan.
I don’t thank you for your service in killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans.
I don’t thank you for your service in expanding the war on terror to Pakistan and Yemen.
I don’t thank you for your service in occupying over 150 countries around the world.
I don’t thank you for your service in garrisoning the planet with over 1,000 military bases.
I don’t thank you for your service in defending our freedoms when you do nothing of the kind.
I don’t thank you for your service as part of the president’s personal attack force to bomb, invade, occupy, and otherwise bring death and destruction to any country he deems necessary.

Thank you for your service? I don’t think so.

Awoke
19th July 2011, 06:49 AM
Troops home now.

Canadian-guerilla
19th July 2011, 09:06 AM
Troops home now.

+1


instead of going after the grunt/foot soldier
why not go after the military brass / Pentagon / .gov

madfranks
19th July 2011, 06:03 PM
On talk radio this afternoon a woman was put on the air and with a serious, somber, methodically decisive voice she announced to all the city that her army son died in Afghanistan from a road bomb last week, and to all the un-patriotic cowards out there, don't dare disrespect her hero son by denouncing the war and belittling his sacrifice to keep us all safe.

I had to change the station before she was done, I just couldn't take it. After losing a son, wouldn't you think she'd question why he was fighting in the first place? Like the article above says, he wasn't protecting this country or our freedoms, and I don't celebrate the loss of his life, but I'm saddened that it was wasted as a pawn to further the elite's interests, nothing else. That's what she should be upset about, not that people are trying to communicate this to her. If those "unpatriotic cowards" were successful in getting her son home, he'd still be alive.

Joe King
19th July 2011, 06:12 PM
It's probably too painful for her to critically examine the issue in a completely objective way, seeing as it hit so close to home so recently.
...but yea, she needs to at some point. Too bad it wasn't before her son went off to die.

But, 'tis life of a sheep.

General of Darkness
19th July 2011, 06:30 PM
On talk radio this afternoon a woman was put on the air and with a serious, somber, methodically decisive voice she announced to all the city that her army son died in Afghanistan from a road bomb last week, and to all the un-patriotic cowards out there, don't dare disrespect her hero son by denouncing the war and belittling his sacrifice to keep us all safe.

I had to change the station before she was done, I just couldn't take it. After losing a son, wouldn't you think she'd question why he was fighting in the first place? Like the article above says, he wasn't protecting this country or our freedoms, and I don't celebrate the loss of his life, but I'm saddened that it was wasted as a pawn to further the elite's interests, nothing else. That's what she should be upset about, not that people are trying to communicate this to her. If those "unpatriotic cowards" were successful in getting her son home, he'd still be alive.

Maybe if she was a better mother her son wouldn't have joined the military. Dunno.

hoarder
19th July 2011, 06:36 PM
Support our troops, bring them home to guard our borders!

LuckyStrike
19th July 2011, 06:53 PM
On talk radio this afternoon a woman was put on the air and with a serious, somber, methodically decisive voice she announced to all the city that her army son died in Afghanistan from a road bomb last week, and to all the un-patriotic cowards out there, don't dare disrespect her hero son by denouncing the war and belittling his sacrifice to keep us all safe.

I had to change the station before she was done, I just couldn't take it. After losing a son, wouldn't you think she'd question why he was fighting in the first place? Like the article above says, he wasn't protecting this country or our freedoms, and I don't celebrate the loss of his life, but I'm saddened that it was wasted as a pawn to further the elite's interests, nothing else. That's what she should be upset about, not that people are trying to communicate this to her. If those "unpatriotic cowards" were successful in getting her son home, he'd still be alive.

I remember reading a story a while back about how a good percentage of talk radio phone calls are just plants in order to steer the conversation in a certain way and mold opinions. I don't doubt it's true, and I don't believe a word of her tale.

Santa
19th July 2011, 07:00 PM
On talk radio this afternoon a woman was put on the air and with a serious, somber, methodically decisive voice she announced to all the city that her army son died in Afghanistan from a road bomb last week, and to all the un-patriotic cowards out there, don't dare disrespect her hero son by denouncing the war and belittling his sacrifice to keep us all safe.

I had to change the station before she was done, I just couldn't take it. After losing a son, wouldn't you think she'd question why he was fighting in the first place? Like the article above says, he wasn't protecting this country or our freedoms, and I don't celebrate the loss of his life, but I'm saddened that it was wasted as a pawn to further the elite's interests, nothing else. That's what she should be upset about, not that people are trying to communicate this to her. If those "unpatriotic cowards" were successful in getting her son home, he'd still be alive.

These young people who continue to sign up are often groomed by their own parents from early on to want to join the military.
Sending her own child off to die in war for freedom is basically the same thing as sacrificing ones child to the gods for a bountiful harvest.
I would never expect her to question her cherished delusion. Her head would explode since she already threw her boy off the cliff.

Book
19th July 2011, 07:16 PM
These young people who continue to sign up are often groomed by their own parents from early on to want to join the military.



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LuckyStrike
19th July 2011, 07:43 PM
Here is what I thought almost a year ago. It hasn't changed. Perhaps I should've submitted it to LRC

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?38548-What-no-thanks-to-our-Veterans-today&p=324590&viewfull=1#post324590

mrnhtbr2232
19th July 2011, 07:58 PM
We all hold the defense of liberty and freedom to be a real thing that is worth dying for. But it seems that our military's creed of being the guardians of the American way of life is actually the problem. When bureaucrats use them for sustaining the hegemony of corporate and foreign influences their mission changes from honorable to betraying the very nation and people they are supposed to protect.

Buddha
19th July 2011, 08:03 PM
I have no empathy for these fucks. They volunteer to fight and get paid, and their college paid for. They go into battle to fight not for freedom but for exactly the opposite. One could type in a few words on the web and start finding out what is really going on, but they don't, so screw them. Then one dies, probably 1 "American" soldier per hundreds of Iraqis or Afghans, and everyone is supposed to weep and curse those miserable fucks for killing him. I don't, I actually have a small smug feeling when I hear these reports. Though sometimes feel a little sad sometimes because this person may have actually become productive to society, but was too naive. By this I mean the 18 or so year olds. Fortunately, I don't get sad a lot because I know that a lot of people in the military are psychopaths who just want to kill, and gain from it.

mightymanx
19th July 2011, 10:33 PM
Who you going to blame the chicken or the egg?

I don't like taxes but I don't hate the county assesser clerk.

Awoke
20th July 2011, 05:57 AM
We all hold the defense of liberty and freedom to be a real thing that is worth dying for. But it seems that our military's creed of being the guardians of the American way of life is actually the problem. When bureaucrats use them for sustaining the hegemony of corporate and foreign influences their mission changes from honorable to betraying the very nation and people they are supposed to protect.

Only if they try to force that way of life outside of America.

If they would maintain a non-interventionalist policy and exert the same amount of effort defending the American way of life in America, the world would be a better place.

iOWNme
20th July 2011, 06:27 AM
Who you going to blame the chicken or the egg?

I don't like taxes but I don't hate the county assesser clerk.

Government is a fiction that doesnt exist.

But what does exist are individual people, who's actions are either Just, Moral and Lawful or Unjust, Immoral and Unlawful.

Tyranny runs rampant because individual people are willing to give up their Moral and/or Spiritual beliefs in return for a false illusion of security. The 'blame' needs to rest on each individual on a case by case basis. The Police and Military are the ones RUINING this country, not the Politicians. By blaming the Politicians, TPTB continue their agenda FOREVER......