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Canadian-guerilla
19th July 2011, 02:14 PM
forage / feed / resupply yourself

all depends which version of The Art of War one uses i guess



has anyone else thought along these lines when/if the fighting starts ?

Spectrism
19th July 2011, 02:26 PM
forage / feed / resupply yourself
all depends which version of The Art of War one uses i guess
has anyone else thought along these lines when/if the fighting starts ?

Yes- of course. They look at YOUR assets and they will take what they want. You have to know how they think, and where they get sloppy. The trick is to be lawful, patient, invisible.

Ponce
19th July 2011, 02:28 PM
Sun TPoncezu......"Be ready for all and afraid of none".

Buddha
19th July 2011, 02:38 PM
Also ties in with Another Tzu quote: "When your opponent leaves an opening be as swift as a hare"

Plastic
19th July 2011, 02:40 PM
That's why whenever someone invades Russia, the Russians burn everything as they withdraw leaving the invader nothing. Then, when their enemy gets over confident, over extended, hungry and desperate.... *POW!! RIGHT IN THE KISSER*

The tactic has worked like a charm for these people everytime.

I imagine the teachings of Sun Tzu are studied in every major military accademy.

MAGNES
19th July 2011, 02:47 PM
That is a standard guerilla warfare tactic.

There is a lot of good information online by pros, books, even military manuals.

Here is overall doctrine.

Our side, support.
LIVE, FIGHT, SURVIVE, MOVE

Just as important if not more important.
Deny the same to the enemy.

Living and surviving are two separate things,
you need the support of the population, or sections of.
Information warfare is important.

The IRA would compartmentalize as well, Political Arm, Military Arm,
never the same people involved, they taught their people to to never talk
politics, not even to family, informers are everywhere and even innocent
comments may get you noticed. Never talk about violence. There is some
IRA material out there on methods, lots in the news too, the IRA was run
by the UK security services, trust no one. Army of one if they come for you.

Lots of good information online. Torrent it.

Total Resistance - Swiss Army Guide to Guerrilla Warfare (http://www.kat.ph/total-resistance-swiss-army-guide-to-guerrilla-warfare-and-und-t3982083.html)

Special forces operations on the ground are guerilla warriors as well,
force multipliers, employ cleavages in society to their advantage, commit
terrorist acts as well. Lots of books out there, first hand accounts of their
deeds. They are very dirty, sneaky and devious, there are no rules on the
ground. They do this following orders in other countries, even Europe where
they trained and armed the Albanians to murder Serbs, encouraged them to
kill police, politicians, leaders, ethnic cleansing. They also totally devastated
Iraq using these methods, they knew it would be easy to do as well, after they
used Iraq, had no more use for it, attack Iran, secure Israel, etc, cleavages in
society being exacerbated was the guarantee they could destroy it. This is why
you have UK and others blowing things up, to ignite mass murder. Shia, Sunni.
When they put the Shiite in power they knew Iraq would flow with blood.

MAGNES
19th July 2011, 03:02 PM
Western History is studied, it is a lot thicker than Sun Tzu .

Major ancient wars are still studied, Thucydides is required reading at
Army War College, it is very thick, too thick. The Ancient Macedonians
expelling the Persians from controlling all cites off the coast of the Mediterranean
and using them as a tax base, money, food, even forced mercenary support,
to attack the mainland, that was put to an end, the populations rejoiced at first,
even non greek cities and people, the war tactics are still studied everywhere,
it is not just about the battlefield. One of the greatest books ever written was
Xenophon, Anabasis, for any serious operator behind enemy lines, it is required
reading for military studies. The 3 key historians are Thucydides, Xenophon, and
Herodotus on the Wars That Made The West, what were these wars about ?
You can actually find a University level podcast online with this title, they include
the Roman wars as well. What were these wars about ? On the mainland.
Control of the Hellespont, control of the seas, trade, comparative advantage, wealth,
" all wars are for money " Plato , why were the Spartans who had no money or
wealth the guarantors of Freedom ? Checking Athenian Empire. Syracuse asks for
help, Sparta sends just one man, Athenian Empire is destroyed for good. All of this
is still studied in detail at army war college, not just the battles. Total Strategy.
Many of these names and traditions live and you see them everywhere, but
the classics is not taught anymore as was required till recently, this is why people are dumber,
they would never know to name something Syracuse which stands for greater history,
or in my area Ajax, they see the helmet but have no clue the history,
TPTB employ much of the same tactics on the population where they can.
They know what wars do. You can say good and bad things about everyone.

Some irony, taxes and control of populations today is greater than what it was
in the past and people rebelled with force. Joseph Sobran writes an article on this.
Much of the modern methods of control were honed in the Ottoman Empire and
the creation of Turkey in the end, whether people believe it or not, I know
what I am talking about, the main discussions were not about not killing Christians,
but what works in bleeding people slowly without them rebelling. They could not
move next door so they did not forcibly convert, because they needed the tax
base bleeding the people. Reports are that the Rockfellers are Ottoman Jews,
Jews ran the administration and were the tax collectors, they did that in Spain
and were kicked out, then given the city Thessaly. Sarkozy is one of these
Ottoman Empire Jews as well. Brainwashing populations and brainwashing
young kidnapped children to kill their own was part of what they did as well.
Much of the same tactics employed later but not as blunt force, more subtle.

Rule Number One.

LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY

Canadian-guerilla
19th July 2011, 03:16 PM
and what about NWO collaborators ?

some neighbourhood busybody who's put in charge
of keeping everyone in line and reporting those who don't toe the NWO " rules "

Plastic
19th July 2011, 03:21 PM
and what about NWO collaborators ?

some neighbourhood busybody who's put in charge
of keeping everyone in line and reporting those who don't toe the NWO " rules "


Butchered with their entire family, men, women, children, pet dogs, and you burn their damned house down.
Sounds cold I know, but a viable guerilla warfare tactic.

MAGNES
19th July 2011, 03:58 PM
Winning people over is important, without population support you will not succeed.

An occupied people has the advantage and invaders if brutal methods are employed
have no future. People understand they are being occupied, so that case is easy.

Taking actions, limiting them is important, why go all out soliciting a strong reaction
and losing support when you can occomplish the same thing with less with limited
risk of reactions, reactions from those with guns and state support and reactions
from the population. Especially if people are not aware of who the enemy is.

Dirty tactics like this were employed against the IRA so the people rat them out
and they lose population support, UK services totally penetrated IRA and killed.
I can open a thread on this, much of this was in UK papers 10 years ago, big scandals.

My family comes from Northern Greece where there was a brutal civil war.
Brothers did fight brothers. I know much of this messed up history.

3 major war events in 20th century alone in this area.

The Bulgarians came as terrorists and were easily checked and expelled.
The Turks never controlled the mountain areas outright but had the ability
to send 10,000 cavalry to decimate whole towns. Then you had the commie
civil war. And WWI trench lines were in this area as well, including Hitler
attacking through this area and occupying it, infamous for reprisal killings.

The Klefts, The Klephts, " The Thieves " .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klepht
http://www.greece.org/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=580&Itemid=820

Live Free or Die.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klephthttp://www.greece.org/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=580&Itemid=820)

Ponce
19th July 2011, 03:58 PM
"He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day"...Mao

MAGNES
19th July 2011, 05:00 PM
I have one of those mini books The Art of War.

Everyone should read Sun Tzu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War

Maybe simpler is better. It's not long.

The Prince is a little thick and tougher read,
that's a good one too, not that long either.
All the free Italian states fighting each other.

I edited my comments above.

Book
19th July 2011, 07:24 PM
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Jew teevee since WWII made sure America will never rise up like Germany did.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
19th July 2011, 07:33 PM
The Anabasis by Xenophon is a compelling story. One of the Persian Kings conscripts some Greek Mercenaries to help him win the throne, but then realizes, "I now have 10,000 Greek Mercenaries in the middle of my territory and they are better armed than even my best soldiers." They're basically untouchable anywhere they go, but they're 1,000 miles from home, and the prospects do not look good. Eventually all their commanders and leaders are invited to a feast by the Persian King, where they are all murdered. So now, there are only 9,000 Greeks remaining. Being Greek, they decide to have a vote on what to do next, lol. The vote comes back, "We fight our way out from the heart of the Persian empire." and they do. They travel south and return to Greece via boat some years later.


This is all paraphrased from memory. Fascinating read.

Glass
19th July 2011, 10:34 PM
Total Resistance - Swiss Army Guide to Guerrilla Warfare (http://www.kat.ph/total-resistance-swiss-army-guide-to-guerrilla-warfare-and-und-t3982083.html)

Put your sheilds up when going after this link. The page looks benign but the download options require either an account or the download links end up with appears to be a downloader program. It installs without indicating what it is doing and it also installs search bars and other rubbish.

I'm using the torrent option but it's going to take a while. Possibly longer than I have left on this mortal coil...... which I'm hoping is a while.

Book
19th July 2011, 10:46 PM
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Gaillo
19th July 2011, 11:22 PM
Damn, MAGNES... A serious tour-de-force from you on this thread! I STRONGLY URGE other members to read, re-read, and think about what MAGNES wrote about in those posts... some SERIOUS, AMAZING information for you all! :o

Large Sarge
20th July 2011, 04:50 AM
its more of a mental war, than a physical war (although eating healthy, exercising, etc is important)

the vast majority of people are clueless on issues.

and for all of us, "we do not know, what we do not know"

at one time, we all were in the dark on chemtrails, 9/11, etc

all of those battles were fought in the mind, through learning, not on a traditional battlefield.

Get friends and family off flouride, keep your cool in discussions/debates (no sense alientaing a potential ally), be charitable w deeds and words (charity has a memory of its own), etc

in short, we are trying to win hearts and minds....

not shoot everything that moves....

Book
20th July 2011, 10:53 AM
and what about NWO collaborators ?



http://camp.sunmoon.ac.kr/sun/news%20images/pitt-jolie-family-in-new-orleans.jpg

TheNocturnalEgyptian
20th July 2011, 11:15 AM
http://camp.sunmoon.ac.kr/sun/news%20images/pitt-jolie-family-in-new-orleans.jpg

Yes Book, feeding a hungry child with a different color skin is the worst crime we can imagine. The problem has nothing to do with banking or who gets to monetarily incentivize social mores. The problem is entirely multicultural.....