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joboo
21st July 2011, 12:04 AM
I've known quite a few Jewish people over the years. Some are not religious, they don't eat kosher (could care less actually), and are against Israeli govt policy.

Others are textbook zionists be it through ignorance, or on purpose. All are much more religious than their non Zionist counterparts.

Aside from the realities of the obvious, which might mean two entirely different things to different people, there are two trains of thought on this.

- One aspect lends credibility to the IDF, and numerous other organizations for doing what they do.

- The other forces the issue to the surface faster at the expense of the credibility of the accuser.

Is it possible for someone to love their country but hate their politicians? I would go so far as to say, given the audience, the answer is waiting at the nearest mirror.

I think people should be labeled for what they are, not who they are, as nobody had a choice at birth.

Is calling out all of one race self defeating or not going on the two points I raised above?

Joe King
21st July 2011, 12:09 AM
My vote would be for self defeating. But that's just my opinion.

ximmy
21st July 2011, 12:20 AM
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/2005Sept15/210.jpg

Shami-Amourae
21st July 2011, 12:34 AM
Some of the most vocal anti-Zionists are actually Jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Eb9bXwKXXw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mw15mqA-ys

Ponce
21st July 2011, 02:40 AM
No real Jew is a Zionist........the Zionist have NOTHING to do with the Semites Jews of the Bible......and that's a mistake that the American people keep on doing and as to the why of supporting the Zionist.

Awoke
21st July 2011, 07:00 AM
Not all zionists are jews.

Not all jews are zionists.

Not all jews are actually jews.

Not all zionists are actually zionists.

What people don't seem to grasp is that there is an ancient cult of babylonian satanists who are claiming to be jews but are not. They are also allowing us to think that they are zionists, but they're not.

Daniel warned us to watch out for the abomination of desolation setting itself up in the Holy place. This is satan at work, making people like us hate on jews and hate on zionism, when in reality they are satanists trying to set up in Israel. They have nothing to do with biblical zionism or biblical jewry, imo.

Dogman
21st July 2011, 07:11 AM
No real Jew is a Zionist........the Zionist have NOTHING to do with the Semites Jews of the Bible......and that's a mistake that the American people keep on doing and as to the why of supporting the Zionist. Agree, the Jews I know here do not like the Zionist or the way they are running Israel. Hell that is one of the reasons why that dam country always has a collation government.

More often you put 2 of them together and they will have 3 opinions or arguments about any single subject.

Met a Palestinian druggiest here a few weeks ago, and he said to me he hates Zionist's, but not the Jew's. And he should know the difference.

hoarder
21st July 2011, 07:17 AM
Not all Khazars are Khazar Supremacists, but their culture and religion cultivates racial supremacy.

sirgonzo420
21st July 2011, 07:24 AM
Just like ol' Biden says:

"I am a zionist. You don't have to be a jew to be a zionist."

Eyebone
21st July 2011, 07:28 AM
"jews" are a race, otherwise how could they keep accusing us of genocide?, so, if you're related to a jew then you're a jew.

DMac
21st July 2011, 08:31 AM
One of my best friends is of Polish descent and is Jewish. His family is not as anti-Zionist as I am (he is), but they all openly agree that Israel is a racist, apartheid practicing nation. The family believes the practices of the Zionists give Jews like them a bad name. Rightfully so.

DMac
21st July 2011, 08:36 AM
ANTI-ZIONIST ORTHODOX JEWS (http://www.nkusa.org/)

http://www.nkusa.org/images/flag-ani.gif



WHAT IS THE NETUREI KARTA?
Neturei Karta opposed the establishment of and retain all opposition to the existence of the so-called "State of Israel"!

Neturei-Karta is the Aramaic term for "Guardians of the City. The name Neturei-Karta originates from an incident in which R. Yehudah Ha-Nassi (Rabbi Judah the Prince) sent R. Hiyya and R. Ashi on a pastoral tour of inspection. In one town they asked to see the "guardians of the city" and the city guard was paraded before them. They said that these were not the guardians of the city but its destroyers, which prompted the citizens to ask who, then, could be considered the guardians. The rabbis answered, "The scribes and the scholars," referring them to Tehillim (Psalms) Chap. 127. (Jerusalem Talmud, Tractate Hagiga. 76c).

Neturei Karta is not - as is often alleged - a small sect or an extremist group of "ultra-orthodox" Jews. The Neturei Karta have added nothing to nor have they taken anything away from the written and oral law of the Torah as it is expressed in the Halacha and the Shulchan Aruch. The Neturei Karta are fighting the changes and inroads made by political Zionism during the past one-hundred odd years. Guided by the rabbis of our time and under the inspiring leadership of the late Reb Amram Blau, the Neturei Karta refuse to recognize the right of anyone to establish a "Jewish" state during the present period of exile.

Neturei Karta oppose the so-called "State of Israel" not because it operates secularly, but because the entire concept of a sovereign Jewish state is contrary to Jewish Law.

The world must know that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name Israel and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people!

Book
21st July 2011, 08:40 AM
"jews" are a race, otherwise how could they keep accusing us of genocide?, so, if you're related to a jew then you're a jew. The entry sign says" "JEWS ONLY".



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qeoCa-RSy3U/SnStGznh_SI/AAAAAAAAATo/Cql_b0Whqao/s400/3678845386_f66e23abb8.jpg

http://kanan48.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/anna-baltzer-and-haithem-el-zabri.jpg?w=480&h=357


As racist as it gets:


Eligibility Requirements

Those who immigrate to Israel under the Law of Return are immediately entitled to citizenship. However, differences of opinion have arisen as to whether a person who claims citizenship under the Law of Return should be automatically registered as "Jewish" for census purposes. According to the halakhic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halakha) definition, a person is Jewish if his or her mother is Jewish, or if he or she converts to Judaism. Orthodox Jews do not recognize conversions performed by Reform (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_Judaism) or Conservative Judaism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Judaism). However, the Law provides that any Jew regardless of affiliation may migrate to Israel and claim citizenship.
Originally, the Law of Return was restricted to Jews only. A 1970 amendment, however, stated that, "The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah) under the Nationality Law... are also vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew."
::) Us Americans who don't have a jew mom are not welcome in "Israel".