Norway Terror Attack?

[platinumdude]

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/07/22/breaking-possible-terror-attack-in-norway-huge-bomb-blast-rips-through-oslo/

A huge explosion damaged government buildings in central Oslo on Friday including Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg’s office, injuring several people, a Reuters witness said.

The blast blew out most windows on the 17-storey building housing Stoltenberg’s office, as well as nearby ministries including the oil ministry, which was on fire.

Reuters correspondent Walter Gibbs said he counted at least eight injured people. The cause of the blast was unknown but the tangled wreckage of a car was outside one building. Police and fire officials declined comment on the cause.

Although the source of the blast is unclear, Al-Jazeera TV notes that Norwegian prosecutors on Tuesday filed a terrorism charge against Mullah Krekar, founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam.

[General of Darkness]

Oslo is overrun with muds, it was just a matter of time this would happen, but it's not clear right now as to what caused the blast.

[General of Darkness]

http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01514/_SCC-AIPub_G-Titte_1514826x.jpg


http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01514/_SCC-AIPub_G-Titte_1514828f.jpg

[Canadian-guerilla]

shades of OKC bombing

[Dogman]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/313291/thumbs/r-OSLO-large570.jpg

http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/07/22/1311345555389_321.jpg

http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/07/22/1311344300548_766.jpg

[General of Darkness]

Ummmm, this can't just be a coincidence can it?

The King David Hotel bombing was an attack carried out by the militant right-wing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing) Zionist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism) underground organization Irgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun) on the King David Hotel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel) in Jerusalem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem) on 22 July 1946.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing#cite_note-brtca_irgun-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing#cite_note-1) 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured

[Dogman]

Ummmm, this can't just be a coincidence can it?

The King David Hotel bombing was an attack carried out by the militant right-wing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing) Zionist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism) underground organization Irgun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun) on the King David Hotel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel) in Jerusalem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem) on 22 July 1946.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing#cite_note-brtca_irgun-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing#cite_note-1) 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured

Probably, this is looking like an Muslim/Arab party. And you know how they feel towards Zionist's.

[General of Darkness]

Probably, this is looking like an Muslim/Arab party. And you know how they feel towards Zionist's.

Right, but Norway is pro-palestine and was probably going to recognize them. I'm putting my money on false flag. ;)

[Dogman]

Right, but Norway is pro-palestine and was probably going to recognize them. I'm putting my money on false flag. ;)

They have a popular Muslim cleric on trial, and it looks like he will be found guilty. Also Norway's support for NATO may play a part.

[Dogman]

TERRORIST ATTACK STRIKES GOVERNMENT CENTER IN OSLO -- MANY INJURIES
http://www.businessinsider.com/big-explosion-at-government-building-in-downtown-oslo-many-injured-2011-7

A bomb has ripped through a government block in downtown Oslo, blasting out the windows of buildings, including the one that housed the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister has just reported to be safe.

There are also unconfirmed reports of a second bomb.

Scenes of the devastation are stunning.

Last summer., members of Al-Qaeda were arrested in Oslo for plotting an attack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10145737).

Just this month a radical cleric in Norway was charged with making death threats (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gJ1T3qbtKpMPUw67TD7X5rTlwpWQ?docId=bac024629 7764fc99cb097f616838f39).

A Google (http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/google) Translated version of the report in a Norwegian news source can be seen here (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fnyheter%2Firik s%2Farticle4180673.ece).

Twitter (http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/twitter) user @chaglen (http://www.twitter.com/chaglen) reports that an entire block has exploded, and he tweeted this stunning picture.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvIfkIEAcRA&feature=player_embedded


Edit: Slow to wake up, this morning, caffeine kicking in.

GoD you maybe right, would the Zionist do something like this to derail the Palestine, chance for statehood?

They sure in the hell would, in a microsecond! If they thought they could get away
with it.

[nunaem]

I hope Scandinavian Nationalist parties can profit from this.

[EE_]

Israel will do whatever it needs to, to stop Palestine from becoming a statehood.
Expect more attacks before September.

[DMac]

Right, but Norway is pro-palestine and was probably going to recognize them. I'm putting my money on false flag. ;)

Erekat: Palestinians planning 'massive' diplomatic push for state recognition (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/erekat-palestinians-planning-massive-diplomatic-push-for-state-recognition-1.373848)


PA officials Abbas Zaki and Sabi Seidam are going to India and Vietnam, PA spokesman Ghassan Al-Khatib will go to Australia and New Zealand, lawmaker Hanan Ashrawi will go to Canada and senior official Nabil Shaath will go to Russia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Portugal.

Palestinian President Abbas began a European tour on Saturday, and is visiting Norway, Spain and Turkey.


Debka already pushing the scary mooslim theme:
http://www.debka.com/article/21142/


Norway is involved in the Afghanistan war and it s pilots fly missions over Libya. The Afghan Taliban has threatened to avenge the death of Osama bin Laden last may with terrorist attacks outside the country. Muslim extremists may also be punishing Norway for an anti-Muslim cartoon run by a daily last year.

[DMac]

I just saw on the BBC that the building collapsed, obviously due to fire melting the steel frame.

;)

[Canadian-guerilla]

I just saw on the BBC that the building collapsed, obviously due to fire melting the steel frame.

;)

shades of building 7


i just hope the Norwegians look beyond the obvious

[General of Darkness]

Also interesting that Norway also refused to cancel oil projects with Iran.

Interesting, how the oil ministry got bombed, the one that Israel last week accused of "supporting the terrorists" (Iran). I'm telling ya, false flag.

[vacuum]

Notice the type of damage the bomb did. This is what a real bomb does, it doesn't collapse half of a building.

[Son-of-Liberty]

It's always a false flag.

[Canadian-guerilla]

from WhatReallyHappened.com


Right, but Norway is pro-palestine and was probably going to recognize them. I'm putting my money on false flag. ;)

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/oslobombing.jpg

[Plastic]

maxkeiser.com is also reporting that the PM was shot at with a shooter arrested.

http://maxkeiser.com/

Bomb in Oslo – UPDATE: Oil & Gas Ministry Was Target UPDATE 2: Police Arrest Blonde, 6’2″ Shooter (http://maxkeiser.com/2011/07/22/bomb-in-oslo/)

[DMac]

Related?

Norway activist 'was Mossad spy' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4318656.stm)

Friday, 7 October 2005

A leading Norwegian pro-Palestinian activist has said she once worked for the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad as a double agent.
Karin Linstad, member of the Norwegian Palestine Committee, is said to have provided details of Palestinians in Beirut before Israel's 1982 invasion.

Mrs Linstad gave no further information to the media, but said she was always loyal to the Palestinians.

The information emerged as part of publicity surrounding a book launch.

The book, War and Diplomacy, by Odd Karsten Tveit, is said to identify Mrs Linstad as a former Mossad agent. Norway has long played a role in trying to achieve peace in the Middle East.

Mrs Linstad's husband Trond Ali Linstad, who converted to Islam in the 1980s, told the Associated Press he had been unaware of his wife's activities but had "complete faith that her evaluations were right".


Edit to add:
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-hit.html

A bunch of links there ^^

This reeks of Gladio

[learn2swim]

From what I'm hearing, it's "white" Al Qaeda....LOL Yes, no doubt it's a false flag.

[ximmy]

Sunday, March 27, 2011
Norwegian Socialist Party votes to bomb Israel if Israel defends against rocket attacks
The junior partner in the Norwegian government, the Socialist Left Party of Kristin Halvorsen, (Sosialistisk Venstreparti), plans to vote on a measure calling for military action against Israel if it decides to act against the Hamas in Gaza. They say:

The credibility of the world community in its confrontation with the Gadafi regime is undermined when there is no reaction against other states in the region who commit injustices against civil population. The greater world community must therefore also react against Israeli air attacks on the Gaza strip.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/03/norwegian-socialists-to-vote-on-bombing-israel/

[DMac]

What the *&^%???

NORWAY SUMMER CAMP REPORTEDLY UNDER ATTACK BY GUNMAN |

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/22/276692/norway-camp-shooting-police/

Reports are emerging that a Norwegian youth summer camp is under attack by a gunman who was disguised as a police officer. Sky News says four people have already died at the camp, run by Norway’s ruling Labour party on the island of Utøya. According to a Guardian live-blog, anti-terror police are on their way to the camp, which is about 20 miles from Oslo, where, this morning, massive explosions rocked government office buildings. Here’s a map of the location of the summer camp captured from Norwegian television:

[keehah]

Labour’s summer camp opens (http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/07/21/labours-summer-camp-opens/)

July 21, 2011

Around 1,000 young supporters of Norway’s Labour Party were making their way over to Utøya this week, an island in the Tyrifjord that’s often viewed as an incubator for future Labour Party leaders. Detractors call it a breeding ground for a relatively small clique of would-be power mongers.

The summer camp for members of Labour’s youth group AUF (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking) has launched the political careers of many a Labour Party leader. Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg was a fixture at the camp in his youth and remains keen to visit every summer. Both he, Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre and former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland were due to make appearances at this year’s camp during its five-day run that began Wednesday.

Eskil Pedersen, current AUF leader, told newspaper Dagsavisen that this year’s camp will include speeches and debate over the upcoming municipal elections in Norway, the rival Conservative Party’s current policies, the even more conservative Progress Party’s asylum policies and the state of Norwegian schools. The latter is traditionally the issue of most interest to the young politically minded AUF members.

Pedersen, quite possibly a future Labour Party leader or government minister himself if Labour keeps winning elections, said the “best thing” about the camp is “meeting lots of folks who have the same values as you do.” Newspaper Vårt Land, however, recently put another slant on the Utøya camp, reporting that the Labour Party historically is run by a tight network of politicians linked by family relations, marriage and friendships who also have a tendency to take on key roles not only in government but in business and Norway’s powerful bureaucracy as well. Many tend to meet in their youth on the island midway between Oslo and Hønefoss.

Other media cited Utøya as “the glue in the Labour movement.” Events will run through Sunday, and the weather forecast called for pouring rain.

Four killed, Norway ruling party meeting (http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2011/07/23/Four_killed_Norway_ruling_party_meeting_641480.htm l)

Police have arrested a man [dressed] as a police officer who shot dead at least four people at a youth meeting of Norway's ruling Labour Party near Oslo.

'From what I saw, at least four people have been shot and killed,' Adrian Pracon, a participant at the event told the Varden newspaper.

The gunman turned up at the event saying he wanted to ensure security there following the deadly explosion in the Oslo city centre earlier on Friday, TV2 television reported, citing witnesses.

NRK reported that police had arrested the gunmen, but police have neither confirmed the arrest nor released any details on casualties.

Police did say that Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg had been scheduled to attend the gathering at a summer camp on Utoeya, an island just outside Oslo.

He was due to give a speech on Saturday morning to the 560 people attending the gathering.

The shootings came shortly after a deadly blast ripped through government buildings in Oslo, killing at least seven people and wounding 15.
http://www.news.com.au/world/explosion-at-office-of-norwegian-tabloid-newspaper-vg/story-e6frfkz9-1226100157179#ixzz1SrQxfDav

3.55am Police believe the bomb attack and the shooting are connected. No one has yet claimed responsibility for the attack.
3.48am Reuters reports Norway police fear there may be explosives at the youth camp.
Police can not confirm anyone has been killed at the Utoya Island attack.
3.33am Witnesses have told NRK reporters the gunman "had a Norwegian look". He appeared between 185 to 190 cm tall and have blond hair.
3.20am One person has been arrested on Utoya Island. There were reports of people fleeing the attack in panic, swimming to the mainland.
2.59am Sky News reports the gunman is still firing indiscriminately, preventing emergency services from getting on the island.
Anti-terror police officers are on the way.
Between 500 and 700 children and youths are gathered on Utoya island at the youth camp.
2.39am A gunmen dressed as a policeman has opened fire on a Labour Party youth camp just outside of Oslo on Utoya Island and has "hit many" according to Oslo Daily News.
The event was the youth centre's yearly gathering and the Prime Minister had been scheduled to visit the event.
2.28am An Oslo caller to BBC News has said a youth camp run by the Labour Party has been attacked by gunmen, just outside of the city.
2.12am AP reports police have sealed off TV2's offices and are investigating a suspicious package.

There are also widespread reports of shots fired in an attack on a children's summer camp, also in Norway.
Norway Camp Shooting: 'As Many As 30 Dead' (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/As-Many-As-30-Feared-Dead-In-Norway-Camp-Shooting-After-Bomb-Attack-In-Capital-Oslo/Article/201107416035628?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_A rticle_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_16035628_As_Many_As_30_Feared_Dead_In_ Norway_Camp_Shooting_After_Bomb_Attack_In_Capital_ Oslo)

Shots were fired by a person reportedly dressed as a police officer at a youth meeting of the ruling Labour Party in Utoya - an island on the outskirts near the capital.
An eyewitness reported seeing between 25 and 30 bodies.
Norwegian police said they feared there were also explosives on Utoya island.
Around 600 people were believed to be taking part in the summer camp - most of whom were teenagers aged between 14 and 18.
Police said that Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg had been due to attend the event.
Norwegian media said that one man has been arrested after the incident.
He was described as tall and blonde, and spoke fluent Norwegian.

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Norwegian media reports say that a man of "Nordic" appearance has been arrested, and that police have control of the island of Utoya. A local police spokesman confirmed to al Jazeera that the suspect is in custody, and that he had been dressed as a police officer and had said he was at the camp to provide security.

That DHS video was right!

[Son-of-Liberty]

What the *&^%???

NORWAY SUMMER CAMP REPORTEDLY UNDER ATTACK BY GUNMAN |

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/07/22/276692/norway-camp-shooting-police/

Reports are emerging that a Norwegian youth summer camp is under attack by a gunman who was disguised as a police officer. Sky News says four people have already died at the camp, run by Norway’s ruling Labour party on the island of Utøya. According to a Guardian live-blog, anti-terror police are on their way to the camp, which is about 20 miles from Oslo, where, this morning, massive explosions rocked government office buildings. Here’s a map of the location of the summer camp captured from Norwegian television:

Looks like Israel is really sending a message.

GSUS analysis has this pretty much figured out already.

[keehah]

BBC: Twin terror attacks shock Norway (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14256438)

LONDON (Reuters)- Security experts say suspicion is likely to fall on both Islamists and right-wing extremists (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/22/us-norway-blast-culprits-idUSTRE76L4K020110722)

the London-based Exclusive Analysis risk consultancy said the man in the shooting incident apparently infiltrated the party gathering on the pretence that he had been sent by the police as a security measure in the wake of the Oslo explosion.

"As such, it is likely he was ethnically Norwegian. This could indicate the involvement of a far-right group rather than an Islamist group, though it is also the case that the Labour Party would be a favorable target for Islamist groups due to its role in authorising Norwegian military deployments in Afghanistan," it said.

When will the MSM start interviewing 'political experts' that can think in more than one dimension?

(I know - never, as long as it is about pushing corporate-mil-gov propaganda.)

WRH - "Shooting children is intended to produce the maximum amount of shock and disgust; a sure sign that this is a false-flag operation to be blamed on someone."

_____________
Norway to quit Libya operation by August (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/norway-quit-libya-operation-august)

June 10, 2011 Associated Press

OSLO, Norway (AP) — Norway will scale down its fighter jet contribution in Libya from six to four planes and withdraw completely from the NATO-led operation by Aug. 1, the government said Friday.
US embassy accused of spying in Norway, Oslo demands answers 10 04 2010 (http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=4615#.TimknbKFFE8.email)

OSLO: Norway has demanded an explanation from the US embassy in Oslo after a television documentary said it had conducted illegal surveillance of hundreds of Norwegian residents for over the past decade.

According to the TV2 News channel, the embassy had employed between 15 and 20 people, including former high-ranking Norwegian police officers, to monitor Norwegians in a bid to ward off attacks on US interests in Norway.

The surveillance had been going on since 2000, said the report.

Embassy-hired employees had photographed people taking part in demonstrations and added their names and personal data to a special computer database, SIMAS (Security Incident Management Analysis System), TV2 reported.

If the report is correct, the embassy conduct would constitute a violation of Norwegian laws.

The media was targeted?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/seven-dead-as-bomb-rocks-norway-at-least-nine-shot-dead-at-youth-camp/article2106259/

Oslo police chief Anstein Gjengdal said: "It is possible that a vehicle has been used in this incident, but we can't confirm this." Local television showed images of the blackened, tangled wreckage of a car lying on its side amid the debris.

He said police sealed off the office of Norwegian broadcaster TV2 to investigate a suspicious package there.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/canada-in-afghanistan/Norway+gunman+kills+summer+camp+shooting+rampage/5143802/story.html#ixzz1SvJvyYQI

The powerful explosion targeting the office of Jens Stoltenberg, the country's prime minister, at 3.15pm, caused widespread destruction to the oil ministry and several media outlets, including the state broadcaster, NRK and Norwegian tabloid newspaper VG.

[lapis]

The Oslo "Jihadist Terrorist" Blame Game Begins
(http://www.zerohedge.com/article/oslo-jihadist-terrorist-blame-game-begins)

[Joe King]

How does she know Europe won't survive without their "leading role"? Or does she have a time machine?

[mrnhtbr2232]

Pakistani ISI works with American CIA influenced by Mossad. Look up the Lillehammer affair. Palestinian statehood seems to be the new coke for false flags. Professional bomb, professional operation. Too clean.

[keehah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

2145: The justice minister has just confirmed the suspect arrested today at the youth camp in Utoeya was Norwegian...
2129: Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper has said he was "shocked and intensely saddened to learn of the attacks in Oslo and Uoeya".
2124: A terrorism expert tells the BBC that Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, a terror group that claimed responsibility for the explosion in Oslo, was not behind the attack.
2119: Police are still searching the water around the youth camp in Utoeya for missing people.
2115: Oslo police spokesman Ander Frydenberg has told the BBC the shooter is currently being questioned at a local police station in Utoeya.
2107: Aerial images have been released by Norway's TV2 showing members of a Swat team arriving at the island where the shooting took place. In the same set of images, young people stripped down to their underwear could be seen swimming away from the island toward shore.
2100: Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim in Oslo says the shooter had also been spotted in the capital prior to the explosions.
2056: The foreign minister has also confirmed that the man arrested following the shooting on the island is Caucasian.
http://www.infowars.com/oslo-terror-whose-agenda-does-it-serve/

- An eyewitness to the blast who was just 200 feet away from the explosion called into the Alex Jones show and stated that there was a “bomb sweep” of the area the day before the attack. Norwegian television also reported this story.
- According to a Norwegian who emailed us, his father who is an explosives expert has analyzed the bombing scene and states that due to the pattern of the damage and debris, the blast was clearly underground.
There are also reports that the road was closed off in recent days for underground sewer works. This is inconsistent with the official story that the blast was caused by a car bomb.
- Friday was a public holiday in Norway and the building that was bombed was largely empty, which is why only seven people died

[gunDriller]

tactically, Norway is a logical place for a terrorist attack. it is not as locked down as England, for example.

you can buy nitric acid, a key component of exothermic materials, over the counter in England.

i don't think the Scandinavians would tolerate an Israeli attack. too early to tell, this may be the occasional pissed-off Muslim.

[osoab]

Looks like they pissed Izzy off about a year ago too.

Norway Oil Fund divests from Israeli companies (http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=185712)




Norway's Ministry of Finance announced that the Norway Oil Fund divested from Africa-Israel Investments and Danya Cebus Ltd. on Monday.

The reason given is the companies' construction in the West Bank.

The Norwegian Finance Ministry said, "The ethics council stresses that construction of settlements in the occupied territories violates the decision of the Geneva convention regarding defense of civilians during war time. Several decisions of the UN Security Council and the International Court of Justice have reached the conclusion that construction of Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories is prohibited."

[Neuro]

I have looked at the Norwegian TV for the last couple of hours. The police have arrested a 32 year old ethnic Norwegian, and they are searching his appartment in the West of Oslo. They seem certain that it is the same man that did the both attacks. The speculation among the journalists and the called in 'experts' is that the perpetrator is either a madman, or a rightwing extremist, or someone involved with extreme muslim jihadists, or someone who is a veteran from Afghanistan, possibly incorporating a few of the above reasons. No-one said anything about Mossad, surprise! ;D

[vacuum]

Up to 30 killed at camp (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8655175/Oslo-explosion-live-coverage.html)

Yup, this is totally a FF. You don't get two things happening in one day and especially these kind of numbers otherwise.

[vacuum]

The police have arrested a 32 year old ethnic Norwegian, and they are searching his appartment in the West of Oslo.
So he turned himself in after he was done?

[learn2swim]

I wonder if there were terror drills going on?

[Neuro]

The man arrested, apparently has been around anti-islamist groups, on the right wing, no previous major criminal convictions, not high profile. Worked in agriculture lately, and thus could have access to fertilizers that could be used to make bombs. Don't know whether the explosion came from a building or a car...

All according to Norwegian TV, which Swedish television is transmitting tonight.

I think it is quite likely this man was recruited by Mossad. He may not even have known about it.

[Joe King]

I wonder if there were terror drills going on?

My "money" is on yes.

[Neuro]

So he turned himself in after he was done?

I don't know how he was arrested. After the bombing in Oslo he wen't to the labour parties youth summer camp at the island Utøya, dressed as a Police and started shooting up the kids there. Many of them escaped the Island by swimming...

[General of Darkness]

Hmmmm, here's the guy, dunno what to make of it, but I'm still thinking Mossad maybe MK ultra, but that sure is some mason wear he's got on.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/23/article-2017709-0D1F33FB00000578-704_306x512.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Pictured-The-blond-Norwegian-32-arrested-holiday-island-massacre-linked-Oslo-car-bomb-blasts.html

[General of Darkness]

Freemason attire. Just so people understand I'm not making this shit up.

http://www.dokhc.org.uk/Pictures/Berks%20Freemasons,%20Loddon%201.JPG

[MAGNES]

Hmmmm, here's the guy, dunno what to make of it, but I'm still thinking Mossad maybe MK ultra, but that sure is some mason wear he's got on.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/23/article-2017709-0D1F33FB00000578-704_306x512.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017709/Pictured-The-blond-Norwegian-32-arrested-holiday-island-massacre-linked-Oslo-car-bomb-blasts.html

That deserves it's own thread, there is a pattern here, Masons, serious crime, high level police corruption, shootings even, wasn't the guy in the UK a Mason, then all of the sudden gun control, etc, how did this guy in this instance know to go and shoot kids at that area ? I just skimmed a few stories connected to that area, everything that took place there was ANTI ISRAEL . Masons are not even allowed to utter the name JESUS , in a lodge,
it shows you how weak they are with their voodoo talisman demon worship. Many Masons believe in the NWO, they are very well aware of the agendas promoted by the top. After all their master is Rothchild.

I just did a quick,
What Really Happened (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/) , all of it is Norway and related, and
this thread already has the culprits in their site, see WRH,
no way Muzzies did this unless they work for Israel.

Something to ponder, in Israel plus signs are banned, for math,
the plus symbol + , does something to their brains and blood level,
hoist The Colors, Battle Colors, it scares them, and I added this
after Generals thanks. Where I come from we salute Colors.

GOD BLESS !

http://i55.tinypic.com/2cqe6b8.gif

[General of Darkness]

Magnes, check this shit out.

Norway Oil Fund divests from Israeli companies

By JPOST.COM STAFF (updatesdesk@gmail.com)
08/23/2010 19:56





Norway's Ministry of Finance announced that the Norway Oil Fund divested from Africa-Israel Investments and Danya Cebus Ltd. on Monday.

The reason given is the companies' construction in the West Bank.

The Norwegian Finance Ministry said, "The ethics council stresses that construction of settlements in the occupied territories violates the decision of the Geneva convention regarding defense of civilians during war time. Several decisions of the UN Security Council and the International Court of Justice have reached the conclusion that construction of Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories is prohibited."

What's interesting is I just did the calculation

Start Date 8/23/10
End Date 7/22/11
Number of Days 333

You can do this in Excel the calculation is simple =DATEDIF(startdate,enddate,"d") Also notible, the fact the first bomb went off at 3:30 and it's exactly been 11 months.

[MAGNES]

I hope Scandinavian Nationalist parties can profit from this.

"No one will bomb us to silence. No one wil shoot us to silence. No one will ever scare us away from being Norway," Mr Stoltenberg says.

" The bomb was followed by a fatal shooting incident near Oslo at a youth meeting of the Labour Party, which Mr Stoltenberg leads. "


Lots of anti Israel stuff from Norway, even at that camp that was targeted.
I don't think Stoltenberg is talking to Muzzies. The Labour party is probably very lefty,
they contributed to all this and they gonna bite the beast back now, maybe ?



They have a popular Muslim cleric on trial, and it looks like he will be found guilty.
Also Norway's support for NATO may play a part.

No doubt Norway has it's problems, and patsies help too.

Norway looks to curtail Libya air strike role – other European NATO allies to follow?
http://www.natowatch.org/node/504
Submitted by ian on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 18:50

Norway will scale down (http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/05/09/norway-set-to-cut-libya-involvement/)its role in NATO-orchestrated air strikes on Libya after its current three-month commitment ends on 24 June, Defence Minister Grete Faremo said on 9 May. Norway was one of the first European states to signal its willingness to implement a UN resolution aimed at protecting Libyan civilians and has six F-16s flying sorties.

"If NATO continues operations in Libya after June 24, a possible Norwegian contribution will be different and less comprehensive than the current one," Faremo told parliament. “There is no military solution to the situation in Libya,” she added. “It must be solved politically.”



I got my local media saying Muslims did the shooting, right now in front of me, and more than one bomb,
" bombings ", meanwhile the guy that did the shooting is caught and confirmed, just got in, this is going to be very interesting.

[osoab]

Single White Norway Psychopath Killer: Anders Behring Breivik, 32, Nationalist, Hates Islam (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/oslo-shooter-profiled-anders-behring-breivik-32-nationalist-hated-islam)




Perhaps it is time for the Telegraph to issue a retraction to its kneejerk publication in which it automatically cast blame on Islamists and other "eastern" terrorists-by-default. Because according to just released info, they could not have been more wrong, and it is the reaction to precisely this type of prejudice that will never facilitate bridging frayed relations between disparate cultures. Anyway, so much for prejudiced speculation and/or lies about some Islamist organization taking the blame for the events in Norway today. Here is the truth (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fa rtikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10080610):" VG has received confirmation from several independent sources that it was Anders Behring Breivik, who was arrested by armed police after the mass killings of Utøya Friday.


VG was also present when the emergency squad took action against the flat 32-year-old susceptible west of Oslo.

Several foreign media have also named Breivik as the perpetrator." More on his motives: "A childhood friend of Breivik says to VG Nett that he should have been right-wing in the late 20's, and posted a series of controversial opinions on Facebook." And the kicker, for all the bigots out there: he was an ultra nationalist who hated Islam. Today's tragic events were merely the outburst of deranged and very much troubled Loughner, McVey-like psychophath. And nothing more.


Someone go nab crap off his facepuke page.

[osoab]

Too funny.

Anti terror drill 2 days prior.

Google translate. (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmobil.aftenposten.no%2Farticle.htm% 3FarticleId%3D3569108) Only some of this is English from the google translate page. I think the non-translated text reverted back to Norwegian.

original link
http://mobil.aftenposten.no/article.htm?articleId=3569108


The police forgot to inform practice

Anti-terror police fired explosive charges during a training center in Oslo, two hundred meters from the Opera, but forgot to notify the public. Anti-terrorpolitiet avfyrte sprengladninger under en øvelse midt i Oslo, to hundre meter fra Operaen, men glemte å gi beskjed til publikum.


Væpnet politi kunne i går observeres i området rundt Operaen i Bjørvika, og voldsomme smell kunne høres over store deler av byen.
No one knew was that this was all a matter of practice.
Ingen visste var at det hele bare var snakk om en øvelse.


Information Section of the Oslo police lie flat and deeply regrets that the public was not made aware of the seemingly dramatic exercise.
Informasjonsseksjonen i Oslo politidistrikt legger seg flate og beklager sterkt at publikum ikke ble gjort oppmerksom på den tilsynelatende dramatiske øvelsen.




Communication Failure
Kommunikasjonssvikt




- It was simply a communication failure.
- Det var rett og slett en kommunikasjonssvikt.
Many others were notified of the exercise, but not the public, says press officer Unni Grøndal to Aftenposten.no.
Mange andre ble varslet om øvelsen, men ikke publikum, sier pressesjef Unni Grøndal til Aftenposten.no.


It was the emergency squad, police national special unit against terrorism, as practiced in the cordoned off area at Bjørvika pier.
Det var beredskapstroppen, politiets nasjonale spesialenhet mot terror, som trente på avsperret område ved Bjørvikautstikkeren.
According to a press release from the police, nearly a day after the exercise, which consisted of training of controlled firing of the charges.
I følge en pressemelding fra politiet, nesten ett døgn etter øvelsen, besto noe av treningen av kontrollerte avfyringer av ladninger.


"In an internal communication failure was not reported to the editors and the audience yesterday," the press release.
«Ved en intern kommunikasjonssvikt ble dette ikke varslet til redaksjonene og til publikum i går», heter det i pressemeldingen.


Police apologize if the training led to problems or unnecessary concern for some, or if someone has been disturbed by activities.
Politiet beklager dersom treningen førte til problemer eller unødig bekymring for noen, eller dersom noen har blitt forstyrret av aktivitetene.




Sorry
Beklager




- We must regret, and lays us flat, says Grøndal.
- Vi må bare beklage, og legger oss helt flate, sier Grøndal.


- Did you know the information section about exercise?
- Visste dere i informasjonsseksjonen om øvelsen?


- It is NOK someone who has not given us a message.
- Det er nok noen som ikke har gitt oss beskjed.
It will not happen again.
Det kommer ikke til å skje igjen.


The exercise will continue for the rest of the Wednesday night and it's going to slam a few times, telling Grøndal.
Øvelsen fortsetter for øvrig også onsdag kveld og det kommer til å smelle noen ganger, forteller Grøndal.


And it is really too narrow Wednesday.
Og det smalt skikkelig også onsdag.
The 18-time blew up three police officers from the emergency squad into the unused brick building at the edge of Bjørvika pier, while the tourists at the Opera House close to the spectators.
Ved 18-tiden sprengte tre politifolk fra beredskapstroppen seg inn i den ubrukte murbygningen ytterst på Bjørvikautstikkeren, mens turistene på Operaen like ved var tilskuere.


The exercise followed a familiar pattern for all anti-terror forces around the world: The men lowered themselves down from the roof and in through the window that had just been blown out, while they fired hand their weapons.
Øvelsen fulgte et velkjent mønster for alle antiterror-styrker over hele verden: Mannskapene firte seg ned fra taket og inn gjennom vinduet som nettopp var blitt sprengt ut, mens de avfyrte håndvåpnene sine.



How far is the Opera House from the blown up building.

[MAGNES]

Magnes, check this shit out.


Got to WRH, they totally destroyed the monkeys on our backs.
How much of it makes it to mainstream media cable news, what
the masses watch, I doubt any of it, there is no reason for any
Muslim to attack Norway. Norway was Israels worst enemy.

You Tube is already removing video footage of bombing.
I want to see it. Original video footage. One of those buildings
has a fire only at top floor, funny looking, another doesn't have
half the windows busted, reports are there was an underground
explosion, on a holiday, unoccupied buildings, the basement of a
TV station was bombed ? Who knows what happened ?

Post live footage of video if anyone finds it.
It is very important.

[MAGNES]

Single White Norway Psychopath Killer: Anders Behring Breivik, 32, Nationalist, Hates Islam (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/oslo-shooter-profiled-anders-behring-breivik-32-nationalist-hated-islam)

Someone go nab crap off his facepuke page.


Zerohedge is falling for this crap, he shot up Norwegian kids, not Muslims.

This is standard Jew Disinfo we have seen over and over.

Masons love Muslims for one.

Nationalists don't wear Fez's and bow down to stars of david,
pinning star of david medals on their body, and so on ...

[General of Darkness]

Got to WRH, they totally destroyed the monkeys on our backs.
How much of it makes it to mainstream media cable news, what
the masses watch, I doubt any of it, there is no reason for any
Muslim to attack Norway. Norway was Israels worst enemy.

You Tube is already removing video footage of bombing.
I want to see it. Original video footage. One of those buildings
has a fire only at top floor, funny looking, another doesn't have
half the windows busted, reports are there was an underground
explosion, on a holiday, unoccupied buildings, the basement of a
TV station was bombed ? Who knows what happened ?

Post live footage of video if anyone finds it.
It is very important.

Magnes it's all over www.liveleak.com

[General of Darkness]

So people can get some understanding of the Freemasons.


http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/archivel.gifhttp://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/madhack.gif

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11, 13 and 33

The Illuminati / Freemason Signature

by Robert Howard (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/wake_up_america.html)

Updated 11/30/2001



In my research regarding the Freemason's, United States Presidents and The Masonic Power Structure (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasons.htm) I was constantly running into the number 13 and 33. This research confirmed that most of the founding fathers were Masons. It also confirmed that most of the Presidents were Masons. My first run in with 13 of course was the 13 colonies. Second was the great Seal.

For a detailed look at the number 11 see Destruction of the Trade Centers: Occult Symbolism Indicates Enemies Within Our Own Government (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/destruction_of_the_trade_centers.htm)

"The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 33, 39. Any multiple of these numbers have special meaning to the Illuminati. Notice that the Bilderberg Group has core of 39 members who are broken into 3 groups of 13 members in each group. Notice that the core of 39 answers to the 13 who make up the Policy Committee. Take special notice that the 13 members of the Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine. You know that the original number of states in the United States of America was 13. The Constitution has 7 articles and was signed by 39 members of the Constitutional Convention." Secret Societies / New World Order: by Milton William Cooper (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/secret_societies_nwo.htm)

Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s) are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it. And, the greatest power of all is created in the symbol(s) if the uninitiated NEVER discover that the symbol exists. MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C. (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/masonic_symbols_washington.htm)
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/sealoftheus.jpg
There are 13 leaves on the left olive branch with 13 berries. 13 stripes on the middle shield. 13 arrows on the right. 13 stars above the eagles head. 13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon. 13 letters in Annuit Coeptis. There are 13 blocks top to bottom on the pyramid. Fritz Springmeir in his The 13 Bloodlines (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_satanic_bloodlines.htm) says these 13 blocks represent the 13 Satanic family's.

[osoab]

http://i.infoplease.com/images/misrael.gifhttp://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110722-utoya-island-vmed-10a.grid-4x2.jpg

The island Utoya is on the right.

[General of Darkness]

HOLY SHIT BALLS Osoab, that is crazy.

[MAGNES]

Magnes it's all over www.liveleak.com (http://www.liveleak.com)

Thanks, I just got in.

You Tube removed a video of live bombing linked on Anti NeoCons page.

" the original poster removed it "

The guy Ry over there that runs the site is tops on NeoCons.

That was linked on WRH and it is gone now.

Stinks noh !

[osoab]

HOLY SHIT BALLS Osoab, that is crazy.


I checked it on a whim. I was thinking back to the Osama raid.

[osoab]

Zerohedge is falling for this crap, he shot up Norwegian kids, not Muslims.

This is standard Jew Disinfo we have seen over and over.

Masons love Muslims for one.

Nationalists don't wear Fez's and bow down to stars of david,
pinning star of david medals on their body, and so on ...



ZH does have this from GW posted.

Terrorist Bomb Attack in Oslo, Norway ... Who Dunnit? (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/terrorist-bomb-attack-oslo-norway-who-dunnit)



As everyone knows by now, there has been a horrific bomb attack in the center of Oslo, Norway and a shooting spree in a Norwegian summer camp. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims.

Norway is an odd choice as a Muslim terror target:


Norway has endorsed Palestinian statehood. See this (http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?ID=229906&R=R1), this (http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE76H4G520110718) and this (http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/07/19/53408557.html)



Norway has excluded Isareli investments. As Haaertz reported (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/business/norway-government-run-pension-fund-drops-africa-israel-group-shares-1.309874) last year:



Norway’s 450 billion euro oil-riches fund has excluded two Israeli firms involved in developing settlements ... on ethical grounds, Norway’s finance ministry said on Monday.

Indeed, Senator Lieberman has accused Norway of promoting anti-semitism (http://www.haaretz.com/news/lieberman-accuses-norway-of-promoting-anti-semitism-1.282524)



Norway has also announced its plan to withdraw (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/norway-quit-libya-operation-august) from the Libyan war



The summer camp where the shootings took place had just concluded a pro-Palestinian rally the day before (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpolitisk.tv2.no%2Fnyheter%2Fst%25C3 %25B8re-om-israel-palestina-konflikten-%25E2%2580%2593-okkupasjonen-ma-opph%25C3%25B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na%2F)

This is hardly the profile of a normal Muslim terrorist target. Therefore, many are alleging that it is another false flag terror attack (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/02/governments-from-around-world-admit.html).
In addition, as Business Insider notes (http://www.businessinsider.com/oslo-bomb-plot-the-possible-motives-2011-7):

The other big possibility, touted by some on Twitter (https://twitter.com/#%21/DanielFurrUK/status/94413999298449408), is that the attack could have come from the Norwegian right. The Norwegian far right were once a feared proposition (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/01/worlddispatch.thefarright) but have been relatively mellow in recent years due to the success of populist success of the Progress Party (http://www.businessinsider.com/rise-of-far-right-populist-parties-can-derail-the-eu-2011-6#norway-not-a-member-of-the-eu-8).BBC notes (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705):

Meanwhile a gunman dressed as a policeman started shooting at a Labour youth camp on the island of Utoeya.
Unconfirmed reports say several people have been killed. The gunman has been arrested. The Telegraph reports (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8655801/Norway-attacks-who-is-responsible.html):

Hours later there was an summer camp youth conference of the ruling Labour Party, which is being attended by current Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg. The conference is taking place on the island of Utøya. The man apparently infiltrated the conference on the pretence that he had been sent by the police as a security measure in the wake of the Oslo explosions. As such, it is likely he was ethnically Norwegian. This could indicate the involvement of a far-right group rather than an Islamist group ...MSNBC notes (http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/22/7143472-police-utoya-shooter-was-local-man):

Police say the gunman is a 32-year-old Norwegian.
Witnesses described the suspect as "blond" and "Nordic-looking." Late Friday, Knut Storberegt, Norway's royal minister of justice and the police, confirmed that he is a Norwegian; the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14256712), citing police, said he was from Utoya. Police said he is also believed to have been involved in the bombing that killed seven people earlier in the day in Oslo, about 25 miles away.

Magnus Ranstorp, a specialist in militant Islamic movements and research director at the Center for Asymmetric Threat Studies at the Swedish National Defense College, cautioned that widespread assumptions that the attacks were connected to international terrorism could be wrong.

The description of the suspect and his possible involvement in bombing national government offices "point to an internal rather than external extremist," Ranstorp told Nettavisen.AP has just confirmed (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18531191) that a domestic madman - rather than a Muslim terrorist - likely carried out the attack:

A police official said the 32-year-old ethnic Norwegian suspect arrested at the camp on Utoya island appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all."

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.
"It seems it's not Islamic-terror related," the official said. "This seems like a madman's work."

The official said the attack "is probably more Norway's Oklahoma City than it is Norway's World Trade Center."According to a Norwegian-language version of Associated Press (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10080610&ei=EQ8qTvevGsvUiAL3w5GwAg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBwQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php%253Fartid%253D10080610%26hl%3Den%26cl ient%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DpFl%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divns), the terrorist who bombed downtown Oslo and shot numerous children at summer camp was an Anti-Islam nationalist:

(http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/norwegian-terrorist-was-anti-islam.html)

http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/07/23/1311378457373_34.jpg (http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/07/23/1311378457373_34.jpg)

Arrested: Anders Behring Breivik (32).
Photo: PRIVATE


In online debates marks Anders Behring Breivik as well read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a community.

Breivik has had many posts on the site Document.no, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.

In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.

Anders Breivik Behring has also commented on the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the media have failed by not being "NOK" Islam-critical.The suspect is allegedly described as a Conservative Christian (https://twitter.com/#%21/Falkvinge/status/94544818352570368) on his Facebook page.
But see this (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/07/why-does-al-qaeda-have-a-problem-with-norway/59649/) and this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10554523).

[ximmy]

You guys are "the shit" in finding great info...

bestgore is working on it too... (caution: adults only link)

http://www.bestgore.com/murder/anders-behring-breivik-oslo-bombing-utoya-shooting/

[osoab]

But see this (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/07/why-does-al-qaeda-have-a-problem-with-norway/59649/) and this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10554523).The 1st this.

Why Does Al-Qaeda Have a Problem With Norway? (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2010/07/why-does-al-qaeda-have-a-problem-with-norway/59649/)


Why did al-Qaeda attack us on 9/11? Quite simple, said (http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/gwbush911jointsessionspeech.htm) George Bush in 2001: "They hate our freedoms." Not so, responded (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3966817.stm) Osama Bin Laden: "Let him tell us why we did not strike Sweden." Although Sweden may be off-limits for jihadists, the same cannot be said for Sweden's neighbor, Norway.


Last Thursday, three men were arrested in Norway and Germany for allegedly plotting a terrorist attack involving peroxide explosives. Those arrested were all Muslim immigrants to Norway, originally from China, Iraq, and Uzbekistan. Authorities claim that the suspects had links (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10554523.stm) to al-Qaeda in Pakistan, and that one of them visited (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/09/world/europe/09norway.html) Waziristan in 2008. If this is true, an al-Qaeda cell had set up shop in the suburbs of Oslo.


Why on Earth would Norway be a target for attack? The country is famed as an international peace negotiator, the home of the Nobel Peace Prize, and the distributor of more foreign aid per capita than any other country. It's an all-round international good guy -- so long as we aren't talking about whaling.


To be sure, no confirmed details have emerged so far about the suspects' motives or their objectives. However, leaks from the investigation suggest that Norway was indeed the target (http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/norway-was-terrorists-target/) and not a logistics base for an attack elsewhere.


There are several theories about why Norway would be on al-Qaeda's hit-list -- but they raise more questions than answers.


The first explanation is Afghanistan. Norway has been part of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan from its foundation in late 2001. Since Norway threw in its lot with the "crusaders," it's fair game in the eyes of many Islamists. In late 2007, for example, Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda's second-in-command, said (http://www.nefafoundation.org/miscellaneous/FeaturedDocs/nefazawahiri0508-2.pdf) that the group had previously threatened Norway because it "participated in the war against the Muslims."


But Norway is, at best, a secondary player in Afghanistan. Most of its soldiers are in the northern cities of Meymaneh and Mazar-e-Sharif, a relatively quiet part of the country. And its contingent of 500 personnel is only the 18th largest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force) in the ISAF coalition. Several countries with a bigger troop presence, such as Bulgaria (525), Georgia (925), or Romania (1,140) have so far not been targeted by al-Qaeda. Besides, why attack Norway now, almost a decade after its entry into Afghanistan?


While Afghanistan is likely a factor, then, it's not a satisfactory explanation. So a second theory has been proposed: the cartoon crisis. In early 2006, a small Norwegian newspaper angered many Muslims by reprinting Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad. This sparked a flurry of Internet threats (http://www.mil.no/multimedia/archive/00076/_Jihadist_reactions__76569a.pdf) as well as physical attacks on Norwegian interests abroad. In Syria, angry demonstrators burnt down (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4681294.stm) the Norwegian embassy. In Pakistan, offices of the Norwegian company Telenor came under attack (http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/15/pakistan.cartoons/index.html).


Is this the answer? Not necessarily. Once the dust settled in 2006, Norway's role in the cartoon affair was largely forgotten as Muslim fury focused on Denmark. With the exception of a May 2006 threat (http://tvnz.co.nz/content/713245/425822.html) to Norway from al-Qaeda ideologue Abu Yahya al-Libi, al-Qaeda's leaders have not explicitly linked Norway to the cartoon issue in their statements.


Which brings us to the third theory: Norway's treatment of the Iraqi Kurdish Islamist Mulla Krekar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullah_Krekar). Onetime leader of the Islamist guerrilla group Ansar al-Islam, Mulla Krekar came to Norway as a refugee in the early 1990s and spent years secretly shuttling between Oslo and Kurdistan until his arrest in September 2002. Although terrorism charges were dropped in 2003, he has been officially declared a threat to national security and placed under house arrest awaiting deportation to Iraq. For many Islamists, Mulla Krekar's treatment demonstrates Norway's subservience to the cruel whims of the United States.


But there is little or no evidence that al-Qaeda cares enough about Mulla Krekar to seek vengeance. He was never part of Bin Laden's organization, and his fate hardly stands out in the post-9/11 world, with its Guantanamos and CIA "black sites."


It may be pointless to search for a single grievance to explain the recent plot. Most likely, a combination of factors placed Norway on the jihadists' radar. In al-Qaeda's binary worldview, Norway is part of the "Jewish-Crusader alliance." Not a platinum member, perhaps, but a member nonetheless. If you're not with al-Qaeda, you're with the United States.


Norway has long been considered a legitimate but low-priority target. Frustrated by the difficulty of striking key adversaries like Britain and the United States, al-Qaeda seems to be moving down the food chain.


Whatever the motivation behind the alleged Oslo plot, the implication is that no country is safe anymore. Except Sweden, of course.



2nd this.

Three held in Norway 'al-Qaeda bomb plot' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10554523)

[gunDriller]

i suggest archiving every news article about this incident before they get scrubbed.

what happened with 9-11 was that there was a flood of articles, some of which turned out to be very inconveient, and got scrubbed.

but the perpetrators don't have the chance to control ALL of the immediate flood of articles.


there's a download assistant for Firefox, for downloading Youtube's.

for downloading a page, usually "File, Save Page as", something like that.


at first i didn't know what 2 think, but - 2 major attacks on the same day ?

1% chance it's Scary Muslims acting alone, 99% chance Mossad/ CIA have their tentacles in this.

[MNeagle]

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[General of Darkness]

This whole fricken thing REEKS of gefilte fish and matzah balls.

[learn2swim]

Norway police say gunman kills at least 80 youths
http://news.yahoo.com/norway-police-gunman-kills-least-80-youths-020948033.html

So, one person killed 80 kids?

[osoab]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E9C0C00000578-682_634x353.jpg

Made this drive. What was the time frame?


At the same time, (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/07/22/138602952/developing-explosion-in-oslo-near-government-offices) there are reports that an individual dressed as a police officer opened fire at a youth Labor Party camp on an island in a fjord about 45 minutes from Oslo. News media in Norway say there were fatalities.oslo to Utoya (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=dbn&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=oslo+to+Utoya+map&fb=1&gl=us&hq=to+Utoya&hnear=0x46416e61f267f039:0x7e92605fd3231e9a,Oslo,+ Norway&ei=ajIqTr7gDqKKsgLb6eygCw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&ved=0CAQQtgM) Google maps Around 20 miles.

[vacuum]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/22/article-2017709-0D1E9C0C00000578-682_634x353.jpg

Made this drive. What was the time frame?



oslo to Utoya (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=dbn&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=oslo+to+Utoya+map&fb=1&gl=us&hq=to+Utoya&hnear=0x46416e61f267f039:0x7e92605fd3231e9a,Oslo,+ Norway&ei=ajIqTr7gDqKKsgLb6eygCw&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&ved=0CAQQtgM) Google maps Around 20 miles.

Google says 36 minutes

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Oslo,+Norway&daddr=Utstranda+345,+3531+Krokkleiva,+Norway&hl=en&ll=59.954666,10.50705&spn=0.199055,0.715485&sll=59.968602,10.508646&sspn=0.397941,1.430969&geocode=FY02kgMd9RCkACk58GfyYW5BRjGaHiPTX2CSfg%3BF W3lkwMdplycACmfkRujHwVBRjGnEA6-sNHRgw&gl=us&mra=ls&z=11

[General of Darkness]

That looks like he'd have to take a ferry to get there. But the bomb could have remotely been detonated at the mason time.

[learn2swim]

He had a lot of help.

[ximmy]

Western news still pushing the evil muslim idea on us...

At least two extremist groups had tried to take credit for the attacks. Many intelligence analysts said they had never heard of Helpers of Global Jihad, which took initial credit. Ansar al-Islam also took credit on some jihadist web sites.

Norway has been grappling with a homegrown terror plot linked to Al Qaeda. Two suspects are in jail awaiting charges.

Last week, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terror charges against an Iraqi-born cleric for threatening Norwegian politicians with death if he is deported from the Scandinavian country. The indictment centered on statements that Mullah Krekar -- the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam -- made to various news media, including American network NBC.

Terrorism has also been a concern in neighboring Denmark since an uproar over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad six years ago.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/22/explosion-damages-buildings-in-norwegian-capital/#ixzz1StNdCuNE

[osoab]

Anyone know Norwegian?

His business Breivik Geofarm is tough to find info on. I have been reading things that he was a director, not a farmer.
This would blow the whole "He used fertilizer to do this." out of the water. I have also read a few things, all speculation, that this was a real estate development company.

I still find it hard to believe that their was no website for it.

Is their a facepuke account?

[Mouse]

This smells like rotten lox schmear.

Norway disses the izzy's

This happens

1. Sends loud and clear message to Norway
2. Is being spun as a lone coyote homo groan terra on the MSM - Let's see how long it takes for big brother to say "see, we told you so" and put in more crackdowns HERE
3. Guy is spun as a white nationalist, against globalization
4. the left MSM propaganda channel is calling "twin terror attacks" and making it clear it's homo groan and white nationalist
5. the war MSM propaganda channel is calling it terror and already asking "what does it mean for us, clearly this is homo groan"

Right in the middle of prime-time "debt default theatre"

And, additional thoughts, others have posted some numerics on the dirty hands telegraphing the show:

"Twin Terrors" -CNN
"Twin Towers" -911

7/22/11

7+22=29

2911 = Second 911

Decoding the hidden agenda = "Drink more Ovaltine"

[midnight rambler]

So he turned himself in after he was done?

If someone who's just killed dozens of people in a single killing spree is arrested alive, the first thought I have is "mind control".

[MAGNES]

Norway police say gunman kills at least 80 youths
http://news.yahoo.com/norway-police-gunman-kills-least-80-youths-020948033.html

So, one person killed 80 kids?

OMG ! What does that remind you of ? Australia.
Some retard, literally retarded guy, using semi auto, killed dozens of kids.
Then they enacted gun control measures. A total police cover up some
of which made the papers. The UK case I referred to earlier, the guy
was a Mason if I recall correctly, shot up school kids, for dramatic effect.
Then gun control. What did these kids do to anyone ? Makes absolutely no
sense to shoot kids for a cause. Unless it is a false flag used for gun control.

[Ponce]

I didn't know that it was that BIGGGGGGG.......here is another video.


http://video109bc.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/norway-bombing-aftermath/

[General of Darkness]

OMG ! What does that remind you of ? Australia.
Some retard, literally retarded guy, using semi auto, killed dozens of kids.
Then they enacted gun control measures. A total police cover up some
of which made the papers. The UK case I referred to earlier, the guy
was a Mason if I recall correctly, shot up school kids, for dramatic effect.
Then gun control. What did these kids do to anyone ? Makes absolutely no
sense to shoot kids for a cause. Unless it is a false flag used for gun control.

YOU my friend are a genius, I forgot about the Port Arthur Massacre. Anyone that researches this will find that this was COMPLETELY false flag, and the result, no more guns for the goyim.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdYxtultxZU

[keehah]

http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyheter/terror/drap/17421854/

Den antatte gjerningsmannen er medlem i Johannes-losjen St. Olaus T.D Tre Søiler i Den norske frimurerordenen. Han har 3. grads status, hvor toppnivået er ti grader.

- Vi har ingen mulighet til å uttale oss om enkeltpersoner eller enkelthendelser knyttet til eventuelle medlemmer, sier pressetalsmann i Den norske frimurerordenen Helge Qvigstad til Dagbladet.

På en Facebook-profil framstår 32-åringen som kristen og politisk konservativ. Som favorittbøker oppgir mannen bak profilen blant annet George Orwells «1984» og Kafkas «Prosessen».

http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6853
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/n…drap/17421854/

The alleged offender is a member of the John lodge St. Olaus TD Three pillars of the Norwegian Masonic Order. He has 3 degree status, where the peak is ten degrees.

– We have no way to express an opinion on individuals or incidents related to any members, said spokesman of the Norwegian Freemasons order Helge Qvigstad told Dagbladet.

On a Facebook profile appears to be 32-year-old Christian and politically conservative. As favorite books provide the man behind the profile including George Orwell’s “1984″ and Kafka’s “process”.

From Osoab's post on page 3:
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18531191

A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all."

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.

"It seems it's not Islamic-terror related," the official said. "This seems like a madman's work."

The official said the attack "is probably more Norway's Oklahoma City than it is Norway's World Trade Center."
'Madman'? perhaps something was lost in translation, but this is not a commonly used word. It may be being used my another Mason (the policeman) to distance himself from association.

The power of right reasoning, which distinguishes the man of sane mind from the madman and the idiot, is deemed essential to the Freemason, that he may comprehend both his rights and his duties. And hence the unfortunate beings just named, who are without this necessary mental quality, are denied admission into the Order. The Old Charges define logic to be the art "that teacheth to discern truth from falsehood."
- Source: (http://www.masonicdictionary.com/logic.html) Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry

[Book]

Probably has a jew Psychologist who took him off his meds.

[Joe King]

Thanks, I just got in.

You Tube removed a video of live bombing linked on Anti NeoCons page.

" the original poster removed it "

The guy Ry over there that runs the site is tops on NeoCons.

That was linked on WRH and it is gone now.

Stinks noh !

Just a suggestion, but why don't you download videos you see that you feel are important? Rather than letting someone maybe delete them? Just askin'

[keehah]

TV2 Jonas Gahr Store: - The occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now (http://politisk.tv2.no/nyheter/st%C3%B8re-om-israel-palestina-konflikten-%E2%80%93-okkupasjonen-ma-opph%C3%B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na/)
21. July 2011, Google tanslation (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpolitisk.tv2.no%2Fnyheter%2Fst%25C3 %25B8re-om-israel-palestina-konflikten-%25E2%2580%2593-okkupasjonen-ma-opph%25C3%25B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na%2F)
http://politisk.tv2.no/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/store_utoya-570x320.jpg
[Students outside tents at summer camp holding banner saying "Boikott Israel"]
AUF WANT BOYCOTT: Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store was met by demands that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya Thursday. Here the Minister ushered around in the camp of the AUF leader Eskil Pedersen. (Reuters)

The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.

During the second day of Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya got the Labour Party's young hopefuls visit by Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store.

Together with the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation correspondent Sidsel Wold and Norwegian People's Aid Kirsten Belck-Olsen, discussed the Foreign Minister of the deadlock between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

As foreign minister arrived Utøya he was met with a demand from the AUF that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state.

- The Palestinians must have their own state, the occupation must end, the wall must be demolished and it must happen now, said the Foreign Minister to cheers from the audience.

Earlier this week, when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas visited Norway, the Minister said to TV 2 news channel that Norway stands ready to recognize a Palestinian state . This he repeated during the debate on Utøya.

- We are ready to recognize a Palestinian state. I await the actual resolution text Palestinians will promote the UN General Assembly in September, said the Minister.

In autumn it is expected that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will bring the matter to the UN. Where will he ask for UN membership and recognition of a Palestinian state within the borders before the 1967 war, with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Wednesday said AUF leader Eskil Pedersen that the AUF want a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side.

- Labour Youth will have a more activist Middle East policy and we have to recognize Palestine. NOK NOK's, now we have to get the peace process into a new track, said Pedersen.

The foreign minister admitted that the situation is untenable, but believes that the boycott is the wrong tool.

- Boycott will be to move from dialogue to monologue. It is difficult to open the door the day we will talk with Israel, said the Minister.
__________________________
Canada Gov says singling out Israeli war crimes is anti-semitic (http://islamist.com/p361877-canada-gov-says-singling-out-israeli.cfm)

22 Jul 2011
"Much of today's anti-Semitism manifests in anti-Israel agitation around boycotts, divestment and sanctions," said Avi Benlolo, President and CEO of the Friends of the Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies, during a hearing in November 2009. "It deploys an unfair double standard against the Jewish state, singling out of Israel alone for one-sided, harsh criticism and calls for punitive actions."
Oslo attacks renew border concerns at premiers' meeting

July 22, 2011
Gary Doer, Canadian ambassador to the United States, and Washington State Governor Christine Gregoire provided provincial and territorial premiers with an update Friday on Canada-U.S. relations, including the Beyond the Border initiative that would establish a sweeping North American security and trade perimeter.

On Friday, Gregoire noted the terrorist attacks in Norway — where a bomb explosion and rampage by a gunman killed at least 17 people — is a reminder of the need for public vigilance, but also a comprehensive, cross-border security partnership between Canada and the U.S.
__________________________________________________ __
SkyNews Twitter (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Norway-At-Least-87-Dead-In-Youth-Camp-Shooting-In-Utoya-And-Bomb-Attack-In-Oslo/Article/201107416035907?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_16035907_Norway%3A_At_Least_87_Dead_In _Youth_Camp_Shooting_In)

Survivor Adrian Pracon speaks to Sky from his hospital bed...
Mr Pracon says the gunman shouted "you all must die" during the shootings.
wakeupfromyourslumber: "You will not bomb us into silence" - Norway (http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/qrswave/you-will-not-bomb-us-silence-norway)

"No one will bomb us to silence. No one wil shoot us to silence. No one will ever scare us away from being Norway," Mr Stoltenberg says.

Excellent speech and it seems to be squarely directed at israel because rather than suggest Norwegians are being punished for their actions, he says clearly that those responsible are attempting to silence Norway.

When asked specifically about the attack on the youth camp, he characterize Norwegian youth as having very strong political views and he grew visibly agitated, suggesting he suspects the youth were targeted because of this.

"Attacking one of the most peaceful places, a political youth camp, is especially brutal - an act of cowardice," Mr Stoltenberg says.

I doubt that they will come right out and blame israelis, but in the coming days it will become apparent, based on their reluctance to verify the "islamic terrorists" as the culprits, whether or not they suspect israel.

[Serpo]

Graphic video..................................


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8fd_1311395602

[midnight rambler]

Perhaps in the foreseeable future most everyone in the world will be able to clearly see that there is *really* only one group of terrorists based in "that shitty little country"*.

*not my quote, that's what a French ambassador is on record saying

[osoab]

::) Seriously?

My military and first responder worshiping friends will eat that shit right up. One believes the muslims and president are setting America up to be under sharia law.


He must be listening to Glen Beck and the rest of the neo-con shills. Probably reads http://www.wnd.com/

[osoab]

You guys are "the shit" in finding great info...

bestgore is working on it too... (caution: adults only link)

http://www.bestgore.com/murder/anders-behring-breivik-oslo-bombing-utoya-shooting/

There is some seriously messed up shit on that site ximmy.

[sunnyandseventy]

Got to WRH, they totally destroyed the monkeys on our backs.

What is WRH?

[osoab]

What is WRH?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

[gunDriller]

Perhaps in the foreseeable future most everyone in the world will be able to clearly see that there is *really* only one group of terrorists based in one "shitty little country"*.

*not my quote, that's what a French ambassador is on record saying

found this reference -

http://sagamoreinstitute.org/ao/index/article/id/1701

"The signs are everywhere: "Israel = Genocide." "Hitler has a son: Sharon." "Milosevic has a brother: Sharon." "A Star of David = A Nazi Swastika." Throughout Europe, Israel is under unprecedented attack. The French ambassador to Britain calls Israel "that shitty little country." The United Nations Human Rights Commission at Geneva endorses "armed struggle" as a legitimate tool for the creation of a Palestinian state--and Austria, Belgium, France, Portugal, Spain, and Sweden approve."

[midnight rambler]

What in the world would motivate a "Christian fundamentalist with anti-Muslim views" to kill several dozen of his own countrymen's children?? It will be interesting to watch this story unfold as the shooter gets the sheepdip treatment. Yet another 'lone gunman', this time allegedly having a "machine pistol". Perish any thought that he had active influences. I'm still convinced it's a case of mind control, what else could it possibly be??

[Spectrism]

What in the world would motivate a "Christian fundamentalist with anti-Muslim views" to kill several dozen of his own countrymen's children?? It will be interesting to watch this story unfold as the shooter gets the sheepdip treatment. Yet another 'lone gunman', this time allegedly having a "machine pistol". Perish any thought that he had active influences. I'm still convinced it's a case of mind control, what else could it possibly be??

None of this makes sense. It is like they picked the perfect patsy and programmed him to do this. Something smells fishy here.

[midnight rambler]

Video games depicting death and destruction were apparently an influence, however I assert this guy was under someone's wing and he was somehow programmed to do specifically this deed. No doubt in my mind that he was programmed by some Satanic force. That fact that he was captured alive is very telling to me.


A Facebook page matching his name and the photo given out by the police was set up just a few days ago. It listed his religion as Christian and his politics as conservative. It said he enjoys hunting, the video games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and books including Machiavelli’s “The Prince” and George Orwell’s “1984.”
There was also a Twitter account apparently belonging to Mr. Breivik. It had one item, posted last Sunday: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.”

[JDRock]

yawn..yawn...just ANOTHER incident of jewish provocation, high fiving each other as blonde gentiles are killed...the jew press will of course blame it on one lone deranged "right wing" (read anti semetic) nut case.

[JDRock]

friggin hilarious! they grabbed a blonde blue eyed guy claiming he MAY be a right wing chrisian fundamentalist! bwaaaahahaa..
that describes alot of people on this sight. mossad job....just wait till magnes and pat colo do a lil invesigating...... i tell you ALL the evidence will point to the mossad.

[DMac]

Three Targets all blamed on a lone nut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJdNrkiapUM


1 Norway is the second largest exporter of oil outside the Middle East, and they cut oil off from Israel.
The Oil ministry was bombed

2 The Prime Minister agreed to recognize a Palestinian State
His office was bombed.

3 The Island Retreat held a pro Palestinian rally yesterday
It has a gun man shoot and kill 87 people.

The media keeps saying a right winger did it. This is after pulling back the crazy Muslims assumptions. No mention that's he's a Christian. His friend says he was mad at the about parties policies. Which ones I wonder considering the targets.
Was this "right-winger" a Christian Zionist (http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/joeblow/oslo-bomber-norwegian-freemason-and-super-zionist#new)?

And lastly it is very very doubtful this psycho acted alone. Where did he get all those guns and bombs, and a police uniform? They're trying to say he set bombs in or outside the government buildings and then moved 30km to an island dressed as a cop and shot another 87 people with a bag full of weapons, and apparently set bombs on the island as well which were defused, all by himself. Why is his whole facebook in English (http://publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/FireShot-capture-020-Anders-Behring-Breivik-nb-no_facebook_com_people_Anders-Behring-Breivik_100002651290254.png)and why were his rantings also in English? If this is some anti-immigration nationalist nut like they are painting him to be then wouldn't you think he'd use his native language? If not to argue at least for his facebook description? Even his book list is in English. Now who is that really addressed to? Who is his real audience there? Think about it.

Fortunately Jens Stoltenberg the Norwegian Prime Minister is saying "WE SHALL NOT BE BOMBED INTO SILENCE (http://video109bc.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/norway-bombing-aftermath/)" apparently he has a hunch as to what is going on and what the motives of the attackers were.

[Ponce]

Officials examine political motive for Oslo attacks.

By the CNN Wire StaffJuly 23, 2011 12:00 p.m. EDT


NEW: The combined death toll in the attacks rises to 92, with 85 killed in the camp shooting.

The attacks may have been politically motivated, foreign minister says

A suspect is charged in the Oslo bombing and youth camp shooting
The suspect purchased 6 tons of fertilizer, a store says
Editor's Note: Have you witnessed the events in Norway? What is the mood like in the country? Share your images, videos and personal accounts with CNN iReport. Please do not expose yourself to a risky or potentially dangerous situation.

Oslo, Norway (CNN) -- The death toll in the mass shooting and bomb attack in Norway rose to 92 Saturday, as leaders and the public alike tried to make sense of what the prime minister called the country's "worst atrocity" since World War II.

New details emerged surrounding Friday's attacks, as a fuller picture of the suspect charged in the crimes came to light. The man faces charges related to terrorism, which carry a maximum sentence of 21 years in prison if convicted. The charges may change, police said.

Norwegian television and newspaper reports have identified the suspect as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik.

An employee at a Norwegian agricultural cooperative told CNN that the man identified in media reports as the suspect bought six tons of fertilizer from her company in May.

Oddmy Estenstad, of Felleskjopet Agr, said she did not think the order was strange at the time because the suspect has a farm, but after Friday's explosion in Norway's capital, Oslo, she called police because she knew the material can be used to make bombs.



Campers shot at Utoya Island

Boater describes rescuing survivors

Utoya survivor: 'I'm glad I'm alive'

Norway in shock "We are very shocked that this man was connected to our company," said Estenstad. "We are very sad about what happened."

Official sources and social media indicate that Breivik might be a right-wing Christian fundamentalist who may have had an issue with Norway's multi-cultural society. The attack may have been politically motivated, one official said.

"I think what we have seen today is that politically motivated violence poses a threat to society and I commend the police for carrying out a very swift and effective investigation, but that is still ongoing," Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store told reporters.

Police have not officially released the identity of the suspect, telling reporters only that they detained a 32-year-old Norwegian man who is being questioned in both the Oslo bombing -- which left seven dead and more than 90 wounded -- and the shooting attack at the youth camp on Utoya island, in which 85 people were killed.

The suspect was cooperating with police, making it clear he wanted to explain himself, Roger Andresen, a deputy police chief, told reporters during a news conference.

Who is suspect in attacks?

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg did not rule out the possibility that there was more than one person involved in the attacks.

Indeed, a second person was arrested Saturday in a hotel where the prime minister was due to meet families of the victims of the attack, police said. He was carrying a knife, state-run broadcaster NRK reported.

Stoltenberg said later Saturday that many world leaders had reached out to him after the tragedy. "The world is with Norway at the moment. That will not restore the lives lost, of course, but it gives support and they hope it will help in their grief," he said.

The prime minister said it's too early to tell how the massacre will change Norwegian society.



Norwegian FM on attacks

Why target Oslo?

Oslo witness: 'People are in shock'

Who's reponsible for Oslo attack?

Map RELATED TOPICS
Norway
Oslo
"But I hope we will maintain" the things that make us unique, Stoltenberg said. Read transcript of Stoltenberg's prepared remarks

Together with Norway's king, queen and crown prince, Stoltenberg visited with victims' family members and survivors of the attacks at a hotel.

Seven people were killed in Friday's explosion in the Norwegian capital, officials said. In all, 90 people were hospitalized as a result of the blast, said Erik Hansen, a spokesman for Oslo Mayor Fabian Stang.

It was while authorities were searching for survivors of the mid-afternoon bombing that a man wearing a police uniform and identifying himself as an officer arrived by boat at Utoya island, about 20 miles from Oslo, where word was spreading among the campers about the explosion in the capital, said Adrian Pracon, a survivor of the mass shooting.

The man asked to address the group, and then started shooting.

What followed, Pracon says, was panic and chaos as some campers ran from the shooter, while others went toward the man because they believed it was a drill or a test.

Pracon said the shooter chased people to the shore, screaming at them as he fired.

Survivor played dead to stay alive

An elite police unit took the gunman into custody on the island, Andresen said. The man did not put up a fight during his arrest, he said.

Authorities were searching the waters Saturday around Utoya, looking for the bodies of campers who may have drowned trying to swim to safety, police said.

"This happened at a place where I, in my young side, became politically active and I said earlier today it was a paradise for youngsters and yesterday it was turned into a hell. We have to regain this. Nobody's going to take this away from us," Stoltenberg said.

The suspect matched the description of a person who was seen near the government buildings in Oslo shortly before the bombs erupted, police said.

The acting national police chief, Sveinung Sponheim, told reporters in Oslo that the gun used to shoot the campers was an automatic weapon and that undetonated explosives were found on the island after the attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/23/norway.explosion/index.html?iref=BN1&hpt=hp_t1

[JohnQPublic]

Is the Norwegian monarchy attempting to reassert their reign?

[Book]

Oslo is the "fastest growing city in Europe because of increased immigration"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Norway

O0

[Neuro]

This man has been speaking out on Forums, as a anti-racist, Christian zionist who is very pro-israel. He has been speaking out against, Marxism, Nazism and Islam, which he calls hatebased ideologies. At the same time he is against multiculturalism, but pro-homosexuality. It seems like he is on the same page as that Dutch jewish politician who dies his hair. Can't remember his name now.

The webpage I read was in Swedish and Norwegian

[keehah]

APNNews: Norway gunman fired for 1.5 hours on island (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110723/D9OLH12O0.html)

Jul 23, 2:18 PM (ET)By IAN MacDOUGALL and LOUISE NORDSTROM

OSLO, Norway (AP) - A gunman who opened fire on an island teeming with young people kept shooting for 1.5 hours before surrendering to a SWAT team, which arrived 40 minutes after they were called, police said Saturday.
Survivors of the shooting spree have described hiding and fleeing into the water to escape the gunman, but a police briefing Saturday detailed for the first time how long the terror lasted - and how long victims waited for help.
When the SWAT team did arrive, the gunman, who had two firearms, surrendered, said Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim.
"There were problems with transport to Utoya," where the youth-wing of Norway's left-leaning Labor Party was holding a retreat, Sponheim said. "It was difficult to get a hold of boats, but that problem was solved when the SWAT team arrived."

Looking for a better source claiming a second gunman. This CBS article confirms in the headline, but no corresponding article text was found (on both pages).

CBS: July 23, 2011 11:13 AM Death tolls rises in Norway; Possible 2nd gunman (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/23/501364/main20082436.shtml)

At a hotel in the village of Sundvollen, where survivors of the shooting were taken, 21-year-old Dana Berzingi wore pants stained with blood. He said the fake police officer ordered people to come closer, then pulled weapons and ammunition from a bag and started shooting...

Sponheim said the camp shooter "wore a sweater with a police sign on it [earlier reports called it a bullet proof vest]. I can confirm that he wasn't a police employee and never has been."

Aerial images broadcast by Norway's TV2 showed members of a SWAT team dressed in black arriving at the island in boats and running up the dock. People who had stripped down to their underwear moved in the opposite direction, swimming away from the island toward the mainland, some using flotation devices.

en.rian.ru At least two terrorists behind Norwegian youth camp massacre - witnesses (http://en.rian.ru/world/20110723/165350450.html)
17:39 23/07/2011 MOSCOW, July 23 (RIA Novosti)

Witnesses of Friday's mass killings in the Norwegian youth camp say there were two terrorists as the shootings were coming from "two different places on the island at the same time," Norwegian VG paper reported on Saturday.
At least 92 people were killed in two separate attacks in Norway on Friday. Seven people reported to be killed in a bomb explosion at a government headquarters in Oslo and 85 were killed in a shooting at a youth summer camp on the Utoya island, near the capital.
Several young people who survived Utoya's massacre, told VG paper that the shootings were coming from "two different places on the island at the same time."
"I believe that there were two people who were shooting," VG quoted a 23-year old Alexander Stavdal.
Norwegian police arrested on Friday a 32-year-old ethnic Norwegian, Anders Behring Breivik, who is believed to be behind the attack.
The witnesses described the second man as a 180-centimeter tall, dark-haired man with Nordic appearance with "a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back."
An anonymous 16-year old girl told VG paper that the gunmen seemed to be in a hurry, but nevertheless "always made ??sure that their victims were shot dead."
"I saw a boy lying on the ground. He shivered and shook before they came over and shot him again," VG quoted the girl as saying.
Among those escaped the camp, were Marius Roset, Matts Kristiansen and Jostein Helsingeng. Roset managed to shelter in a rock while the other guys were hiding in the forest.
"The first thing the crazy [gunman] did was to shoot the first cute girl he saw," Roset told VG.
One of the boys, Kristiansen, told the VG that "it was the longest two hours of my life."
"Fifteen out of fifteen were killed at once. We thought life was over, while we ran. Many phoned home to parents to give them a final message," VG cited Stavdal as saying.
Terrorist attacks have been virtually unknown in Norway, the home of the Nobel peace prize and one of the world's most prosperous and stable societies.

[Spectrism]

We need to see the footage of the grassy knoll.

The guy is against many things... and then displays those things he is against? Yeah...sure.

[Ponce]

That should teach thos dirty filthy Norwayans to go against those who God put on Earth.......for as long as he people keeps on protecting the Zionist they will continue to get away with murder.........as the cops in the US do.

[midnight rambler]

Alleged shooter is a Freemason

http://www.rense.com/general94/page1_3.jpg

http://www.rense.com/general94/lone.htm

Considering Norway's very cushy 'prison' system, he won't have it so bad, maybe even getting furloughs.

[JohnQPublic]

Alleged shooter is a Freemason

http://www.rense.com/general94/page1_3.jpg

http://www.rense.com/general94/lone.htm

Norwegian freemasonry = Norwegian monarchy?

[gunDriller]

1 Norway is the second largest exporter of oil outside the Middle East, and they cut oil off from Israel.
The Oil ministry was bombed

2 The Prime Minister agreed to recognize a Palestinian State
His office was bombed.

3 The Island Retreat held a pro Palestinian rally yesterday
It has a gun man shoot and kill 87 people.


about Norway & Palestine -
http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/07/23/norway-to-back-palestinian-state/


i'm having a hard time finding an article about Israel cutting off oil.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3204618,00.html

"Recently, the Socialist Left Party in Norway said it will not drop the planned boycott of Israeli products, despite the harsh criticism leveled at Finance Minister Kristin Halvorsen, who voiced her support for such move.

Elsewhere, the Norwegian parliament in the Sor-Trondelag region decided to boycott Israeli-made products recently and to forbid the sale and purchase of Israeli goods."

Norway is serious about the boycott. got to admire that.


http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/649

"Last Thursday Kristin Halvorsen (45), the Norwegian Minister of Finance, said that she is in favour of boycotting Israel.

Halvorsen, who is also the leader of the Socialist Left Party (SV), told the newspaper Dagbladet that she never buys Israeli products, such as oranges, and that she supports all Norwegian municipalities and provinces that boycott Israel. Halvorsen prefers Cuban oranges instead."


YEP, Norway has really stepped off the reservation.

so, what Norwegian products can be we buy to show our support for Norway ?

i'm glad they took the guy alive ... that helps the investigation ... if it's a real investigation.

[Horn]

Only crazy people work for Zionists, not terrorists...

[vacuum]

That previous video made a good point - if he is some type of anti-immigration nationalist, why would he make his rantings and facebook page in english?

[Dogman]

That previous video made a good point - if he is some type of anti-immigration nationalist, why would he make his rantings and facebook page in english? Maybe for a wider audience to read his thoughts. English is a international language, Norwegian is not.

[nunaem]

That previous video made a good point - if he is some type of anti-immigration nationalist, why would he make his rantings and facebook page in english?

Most(or at least many) scandinavians speak english fluently.

[JohnQPublic]

I wonder who all colect "royalties" on Norwegion oil?

[Olmstein]

This whole story makes my head hurt. None of it makes any sense to me. I don't buy what the MSM is selling, and I'm sure the story is not what it seems, but I can't see what the guy thought he was going to accomplish by killing kids.

Add this to the AZ shooting earlier this year, where politicians and children were targeted, something is not right here, but I'm seriously too confused to figure it out.

[Dogman]

This whole story makes my head hurt. None of it makes any sense to me. I don't buy what the MSM is selling, and I'm sure the story is not what it seems, but I can't see what the guy thought he was going to accomplish by killing kids.

Add this to the AZ shooting earlier this year, where politicians and children were targeted, something is not right here, but I'm seriously too confused to figure it out.


Sounds like he wanted to make a statement and also hurt where it would hurt the most. And kid's fit that bill. He had a lot of hate in him.

[MAGNES]

This whole story makes my head hurt. None of it makes any sense to me. I don't buy what the MSM is selling, and I'm sure the story is not what it seems, but I can't see what the guy thought he was going to accomplish by killing kids.

Add this to the AZ shooting earlier this year, where politicians and children were targeted, something is not right here, but I'm seriously too confused to figure it out.

He is a total NeoCon, pro Israel , pro Zionist, pro Mason, A Mason, anti conspiracy,
lies openly, he is well read and aware, he knows all truth, he is willing to kill his political
enemies that disagree with him, they were having political rallies on that island against Israel,
there is many links to all of this, the kids he killed were part of this, they were not
exactly kids but the youth wing of the socialists that were speaking out against Israel.
" Labour Youth League summer camp "

This story is going to get scrubbed good.

This guy is a total NeoCon and Zionist. False Flag Conservatives.

You have to ask yourself where is the security with gov officials visiting ?

Well done Israel , brainwashing nubs to this point.

from
http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/126026

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpolitisk.tv2.no%2Fnyheter%2Fst%25C3 %25B8re-om-israel-palestina-konflikten-%25E2%2580%2593-okkupasjonen-ma-opph%25C3%25B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na%2F
The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian
state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.

http://i54.tinypic.com/16h847c.jpg

AUF WANT BOYCOTT: Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store was met by demands that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya Thursday.
Her blir Støre geleidet rundt i leiren av AUF-leder Eskil Pedersen.
Here the Minister ushered around in the camp of the AUF leader Eskil Pedersen.
(Foto: SCANPIX)
(Reuters)


Sounds like he wanted to make a statement and also hurt where it would hurt the most. And kid's fit that bill. He had a lot of hate in him.

He wasn't killing children, he was killing the parties youth wing, and he has a 1500 page political manifesto to sell you.
He may be a queer too, he does not like " racists " , is very pro Israel, he was confused with NeoCon bloggers of
Europe, not just the same ideas, but writing style and apparently he may have links to them.

These people I know well, I was an avid reader of BrusselsJournal, Gates of Vienna, Fjordman , they
are EXCELLENT on telling you what is happening in Europe with Muslims and they are not
wrong, they are for a multicultural melting pot Europe but not for Muslims or " multiculturalism " ,
they are pro Israel, pro Zionist, pro " war on terror " , total NeoCons, they are easy to understand, they are Jews and they promote what is good for them. Still very good on headlines and analysis on Muslims in Europe.

Notice the " norwegian " did not target Muslims.

Fjordman, LOOK AT GATES OF VIENNA
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/for-record.html
" For the record: I did not comment on the rumor that the Utøya shooter was the same
person as Fjordman because the assertion is too ludicrous to be taken seriously. "

It's changed over the years.
" site:http://www.brusselsjournal.com Fjordman "
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.brusselsjournal.c om+Fjordman&btnG=Search&hl=en&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

[midnight rambler]

This guy is a total NeoCon and Zionist.

Think there's any chance that the nooz media will mention IsraHell and/or the 'Z' word when reporting on this?

Nah, that's too much to hope for.

[midnight rambler]

Notice the " norwegian " did not target Muslims.

Note that the shooter has reportedly told the police that his actions were:


"...atrocious but necessary"Necessary for what?? The Zionist agenda??

[nunaem]

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/07/the-political-ideas-of-anders-behring-breivik/

[MAGNES]

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/07/the-political-ideas-of-anders-behring-breivik/

TOTAL NEOCONS

False Rumors About Fjordman
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4772 (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4772&sa=U&ei=UW8rToP_IoH2gAet2MCNCw&ved=0CBMQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNH6qh967nnJeYtF_JZCnRSxYEfCVA)
From the desk of The Brussels Journal (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/user/39) on Sat, 2011-07-23 22:27
A quote from Fjordman on Gates of Vienna, 23 July 2011: (http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/fjordman-speaks-out.html)
I notice that certain bloggers (...) keep spreading the utterly false rumor that I am the evil shooter from Utøya, the island just outside of Oslo.
I have absolutely no idea who planted that rumor or for what reason, but they obviously don’t wish me well. For the record, I was live-blogging about these horrible events the entire Friday evening, which can be confirmed by nearly a dozen different individuals.
I didn’t respond to these rumors earlier because I was too emotionally exhausted from yesterday’s events. It was hard to pay attention to such things, but now I feel that I must. Some people really do want to smear me that badly.

[nunaem]

Yep, neocons led by Jews.

http://chechar.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/no-white-nationalist-would-open-fire-on-white-kids-ever/

[MNeagle]

I don't get why they took him alive. Heck cops in the US will taze or shoot you to death for mere traffic violations!

[Dogman]

I don't get why they took him alive. Heck cops in the US will taze or shoot you to death for mere traffic violations!

It maybe they are a tad more civilized than the US. The US has ONLY been around for a few century's. They have had much longer to trying to get it right. Even if they maybe heading in the wrong direction.

[JohnQPublic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJdNrkiapUM&feature=player_embedded

[Joe King]

It was probably a mistake?
If he gets linked in any way to Israel, he will not be given a trial, nor will you hear about it...he will just be found dead or put to death before he can talk.

By sending him a Norwegian Ruby, you mean?

[Twisted Titan]

Im looking at the aftermath of the explosion and it looks like a full out demo crew was given carte blanche..........yet they are trying sell you on the fact that ONE MAN did that and he had time to hop a boat and pick off over 80+ people.

You have suspend all rational thought to even contemplate much less believe that bull shit

[Neuro]

I don't get why they took him alive. Heck cops in the US will taze or shoot you to death for mere traffic violations!


Im looking at the aftermath of the explosion and it looks like a full out demo crew was given carte blanche..........yet they are trying sell you on the fact that ONE MAN did that and he had time to hop a boat and pick off over 80+ people.

You have suspend all rational thought to even contemplate much less believe that bull shit
My wife followed Swedish TV yesterday, and according to the youth survivors, there was another shooter on the Island, another man... This would in my opinion mean that the lone mad man theory is out of question... Some type of organisation is behind it. Further a man with a knife was arrested at the Hotel the Norwegian PM Jens Stoltenberg was at visiting survivors and victims families... If the murderer is hired by Mossad to do the job, which I think is likely, he may not know it though. He most likely will get killed soon...

[osoab]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/draghi/psycho.jpg

Mass Killer Andrew Berwick's, aka Anders Breivik, Complete 777,724 Word Manifesto (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mass-killer-andrew-berwicks-aka-anders-breivik-complete-777724-word-manifesto)




Anyone want to download this off of facepuke and post as a pdf? Or post the link if you find a pdf.

[learn2swim]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/draghi/psycho.jpg

Mass Killer Andrew Berwick's, aka Anders Breivik, Complete 777,724 Word Manifesto (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mass-killer-andrew-berwicks-aka-anders-breivik-complete-777724-word-manifesto)




Anyone want to download this off of facepuke and post as a pdf? Or post the link if you find a pdf.

LOL, all the equipment is brand new, not a bit of wear and tear, guess he didn't train much.

[Ponce]

Alot more at link, with pictures.
======================================


Hunter killer
At least 92 die in Norway massacre.

Massacre ... the shooting on Utoya Island left at least 85 dead
By BRIAN FLYNN and SIMON HUGHES

Published: 23 Jul 2011

DRAMATIC photos that may show the Norway gunman during his killing spree have emerged.
The blurry images — taken from a helicopter — appear to show a tall blond figure in a dark uniform holding what may be a rifle.

At his feet are what look like bodies floating on the water.

The man is believed to be Anders Behring Breivik, a crazed hunting fan arrested over gun and bomb attacks that killed at least 92 innocent people yesterday.

Dressed as a policeman, the gunman massacred 85 youths camping on an island — two hours after a huge car bomb wrecked government buildings in capital Oslo, killing seven.



Killer ... helicopter snap supposedly shows the gunman surrounded by dead bodiesTerrified survivors last night told how a blue-eyed gunman beckoned them towards him — then coldly opened fire.


Adrian Pracon, who was shot in the left shoulder, said the scene on the island was like a "Nazi movie".

Speaking from his hospital bed, he said: "He was shooting people at close range and starting to shoot at us. He stood first 10 metres from me and shooting at people in the water.



Arrested ... Anders Behring Breivik"He had an M16, it did look like a machine gun.

"When I saw him from the side yelling that he was about to kill us, he looked like he was taken from a Nazi movie or something.


"He started shooting at these people, so I laid down and acted as if I was dead.

"He stood maybe two metres away from me. I could hear him breathing. I could feel the heat of the machine gun.

"He tried everyone, he kicked them to see if they were alive, or he just shot them."

Another young survivor, Jorgen Benone, said: "People were hiding behind stones. I saw people being shot...I felt it was best to stay quiet, not to run into the open.

"I saw (the gunman) once just 20 to 30 metres away from me."

Like other youngsters, Benone swam to safety and was rescued by a boat.

This morning, police official Roger Andresen revealed the total death toll had escalated to at least 91. Since then the number has risen to 92.

He said Breivik was co-operating with investigators, adding: "He is clear on the point that he wants to explain himself."

National police chief Sveinung Sponheim said the gunman's internet postings "suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but whether that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen".



Rescued ... wounded survivors are treated after being brought ashore opposite Utoya islandAndersen said the suspect posted on websites with Christian fundamentalist tendencies.

A police official said the suspect appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all".



Bloodied ... a woman is led away after the Oslo car bomb explosion
Reports emerged from some witnesses that there was a second gunman on Utoya Island, but these remain unconfirmed.

The official added: "It seems it's not Islamic-terror related. This seems like a madman's work."

The indiscriminate shooting massacre happened at a youth camp organised by Norway's ruling Labour Party on Utoya Island, attended by around 700 youngsters.

Norway's Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg — out of the capital at the time of the blast — said today he knew many of the victims personally.

He had been due to speak at the camp today.

Mr Stoltenberg said today: "I know the young people and I know their parents.

"And what hurts more is that this place where I have been every summer since 1979, and where I have experienced joy, commitment and security, has been hit by brutal violence — a youth paradise has been transformed into a hell.

"What happened at Utoeya is a national tragedy. Not since World War Two has our country seen a greater crime."

Norwegian police arrested a second man this morning at a hotel in Sundvolden, where the survivors from the Utoya Island massacre had gathered and where Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg was due to visit.



Mourning ... girls at gathering of Utoya Island shooting survivors
It also emerged Breivik bought SIX TONS of fertiliser in May from a farm supply firm.

Some kinds of agricultural fertiliser have been used in the past to make explosives.

85 were confirmed dead after the assassin attacked the youth camp on the tiny Norwegian island of Utoya.

A massive car bomb had earlier left seven dead and ten wounded in capital Oslo around 20 miles away.



Devastation ... emergency services survey the damage in Oslo
Last night police believed the two attacks were linked, with Breivik seen at the scene of the bombing.


What appears to be the 32-year-old's Facebook page describes him as "single" and a "Christian" — and lists serial killer drama Dexter as one of his favourite TV shows.



He also names vampire show True Blood among TV programmes he likes.



Devastated ... Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg meets a survivor of the gun rampage
Bizarrely he lists cartoon He-Man among his choice watches as well as violent films Gladiator and 300.


Under political views, he lists himself as "Conservative" — but Norwegian TV reported he has links to right-wing extremism.


A pal said he ranted on anti-Islam websites and was "strongly opposed to multiculturalism".



Escape bid ... terrified kids swim
Among his interests are hunting, body building and freemasonry. He was also pictured in a ceremonial outfit on Facebook.


Breivik is said to have had a machine gun and a Glock pistol registered in his name.



Ceremonial pic ... Anders Behring BreivikAnd as boss of farming firm Breivik Geofarm, he would have had access to fertiliser for a bomb.


On a Twitter page set up under his name, there is just one message posted on July 17.


It says: "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests."


This morning, Buckingham Palace revealed the Queen had written to the King of Norway to express her shock and sadness at the attacks in his country.

She said her thoughts, and those of the Duke of Edinburgh, were with the Norwegian people.


Her message to King Harald read: "I am deeply saddened and shocked by the tragic loss of life of so many people on the island of Utoya and in Oslo.

"Prince Philip joins me in extending our heartfelt sympathy to Your Majesty and the people of Norway.


"Our prayers and thoughts are with everyone who has been affected by the dreadful atrocity."


Breivik — described as over 6ft and blond with blue eyes — had arrived on the island by boat, dressed as a police officer.




Some youngsters fled towards the sea hoping to swim to safety.



Idyllic ... a previous camp on the island
But the fanatic gunned down some of them on the beach — and shot others as they swam.


A 22-year-old witness, who would only give her name as Helene, said: "I saw several youths in the water. The man shot after them while they swam."


Some youths barricaded themselves inside wooden shacks.



Arrested ... second man is handcuffed by police
Others posted harrowing messages on Twitter.


One wrote: "We are sitting down by the beach. A man is shooting clothed in a police uniform. Help us! When are the police coming to help us!"


Another had received a text from a survivor which read: "I'm safe. We've hidden in a tree. One of us is shot twice in the foot."



Saddened ... Her Majesty with King Harald of Norway (left) and the Duke of Edinburgh
Kristine Melby, who lives opposite Utoya Island, saw children swimming in the water trying to get away. She said: "Some of the wounds were really, really big.


"Others of them had been running for their lives, they had their bones broken. Some of them were full of blood and dirt."

As Norway reeled from the horror — on a national holiday — there were fears last night that more terror is on the way.





Scene ... the tent-packed isle yesterday
The car bomb exploded in the heart of Oslo's government quarter and close to the PM's office.


The device exploded at around 2.30pm UK time — 3.30pm in Norway. Norway's finance ministry and the country's biggest tabloid newspaper were also hit.



Map of a massacre ... centres of devastation
Detectives believe fertiliser-based explosives had been packed into the vehicle — which lay mangled and blackened on its side amid the debris.

Reporter Harald Klungtveit, in his office near the blast, said: "The block where the PM is situated is smashed."

Colleague Anne Marte Blindheim said: "It looks like a war zone."


Rescuers were last night trying to free dozens of survivors trapped in the debris amid growing fears the death toll would grow. Norway's borders were shut "within minutes" of the blast.

But two hours later terror came to Utoya. Around 560 youngsters, aged from 14 to 25, had gathered there for the political rally.


Former prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland had been the key speaker yesterday and Stoltenberg was due there today. When the killer got on the island, he claimed to be carrying out a routine check due to the Oslo bombing.



Horror ... masonry and glass litter the street of government offices after blast
Police last night revealed they had found explosives on the island, and confirmed they were quizzing a 32-year-old man arrested there.

One police official said: "It seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organisations at all. This looks like a madman's work."

Officers were searching Breivik's flat in the posh West End of Oslo for clues.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/At%20least%2092%20people%20are%20killed%20in%20two %20gun%20and%20bomb%20attacks%20in%20Norway%20by%2 0a%20crazed%20hunting%20fan%20%20%20The%20Sun%20%2 0News.htm

[Hatha Sunahara]

LOL, all the equipment is brand new, not a bit of wear and tear, guess he didn't train much.


This piece of information tells me he's a patsy. If he knows anything, or is likely to blow the coverup, it is likely that his handlers will have him killed.

I wonder if there are any craters where the explosion occurred. If it was one blast, it was a huge one. Likely a mini-nuke detonated in a sewer or storm drain maybe 3-6 feet below the street surface. Probably something similar to the bomb that destroyed the Marine Barracks at the Beirut airport in 1983. Definitely not the work of a single person. Done probably to put fear into the Norwegians so they will go along with the GWOT (Global War on Terror).

Qadaffi might have something to do with it. He said that the NATO countries bombing Libya might face some bombing themselves. More than likely it was arranged by CIA, MI5 or Mossad though for their own reasons.


Hatha

[Dogman]

You have a more up to date title. but are a tad late.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52153-Norway-Terror-Attack

[midnight rambler]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/draghi/psycho.jpg

Mass Killer Andrew Berwick's, aka Anders Breivik, Complete 777,724 Word Manifesto (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mass-killer-andrew-berwicks-aka-anders-breivik-complete-777724-word-manifesto)






Anyone want to download this off of facepuke and post as a pdf? Or post the link if you find a pdf.

Where'd that image come from? The first thing I thought when I was it was that it was photochopped, and poorly at that.

[Dogman]

Where'd that image come from? The first thing I thought when I was it was that it was photochopped, and poorly at that.


Go to the link under the picture and open his manifesto, the photos are at the bottom.

[midnight rambler]

Go to the link under the picture and open his manifesto, the photos are at the bottom.

I see that now, however the image still looks photoshopped to me. First time I saw it and read that shoulder patch I thought it was someone's idea of a joke. It reeks of sheepdip, like the photo of Oswald holding his rifle.

[Ponce]

Well, there was a lot here that I haven't seen elsewhere.......like......the two shooters by the lake, the woman covered with blood, the rescued team pulling bodies from the water and others.....Ponce <------at the top of his class :)

[General of Darkness]

I see that now, however the image still looks photoshopped to me. First time I saw it and read that shoulder patch I thought it was someone's idea of a joke. It reeks of sheepdip, like the photo of Oswald holding his rifle.

Agreed. Anyone with 1/2 brain can see it's photoCHOPPED. BTW, it's looks like an M1 or M14 variant. Also MR, you're spot on with the patch. It's on a wet-suit, and they are form fitting so that patch would be curved, NOT FLAT. This is just like fricken Obongos birth certificate, FAKE.

[midnight rambler]

Agreed. Anyone with 1/2 brain can see it's photoCHOPPED. BTW, it's looks like an M1 or M14 variant. Also MR, you're spot on with the patch. It's on a wet-suit, and they are form fitting so that patch would be curved, NOT FLAT. This is just like fricken Obongos birth certificate, FAKE.

The rifle is a Ruger, probably a Mini-14 if not a Mini-30 - the choice of armchair warriors everywhere.

[keehah]

MSM has improved tag for the killer: Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/24/us-norway-idUSL6E7IN00C20110724): Norway mourns victims of anti-Islam "Crusader"

[mick silver]

this whole story of what has happen is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth . something is not being told here . i just dont see how he could of travel that far in so little time .

[gunDriller]

now that i've had 48 hours to think about this -

i think it's a warning to Brazil & similar countries.


Norway stepped off the reservation in 2 ways -

* they didn't actually cut off oil. they divested an investment in an Israeli-owned oil company (or 2). that's very different from refusing to sell oil, but it's still an active form of participation in the Boycott-D-Sanctions (BDS) campaign that Palestine has called for.

* Palestinian statehood.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/norway-backs-palestinian-bid-for-un-recognition-in-september-1.373914
(beware - vomitus Israeli ad pop-ups, possible spyware on cootie-infested Israeli site.)

"Norwegian FM says 'it is perfectly legitimate' for Palestinian president to turn to the UN with a proposal for statehood."

July 11, 2011

"One example among many: Norwegian trade union LO was, together with the Danish one, the first in Europe to propose a boycott of Israel in 2002."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4048299,00.html

"Norway hurting Israel"

Ouch ! The Zionist Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.


As the Ynetnews article goes on to describe, Norway has a culture that is highly tolerant of telling the truth about Israel.


whoever did this demonstrated -
* they are willing to kill children
* they are willing to bomb Norwegian government buildings. that it happened on the weekend could be a matter of logistics, or it could be a warning.

the reason i mention Brazil is, they have a lot of oil too. they are one of the BRIC countries - countries with large economies that matter in the world economy. (Brazil, Russia, India, China.)

the message of the bombings is - be careful how you vote about Palestinian statehood. & be careful with allowing your countries media & people to tell the truth about Israel. & be careful with how you appoach the growing worldwide boycott of Israel.


Norway has a major vulnerability - they are next to one of Russia's biggest nuclear waste dumps. i wouldn't be surprised to see an attack on Norway involving that nuclear site, it could easily be spun in the media as an accident.

normally i wouldn't mention it, but i am sure Mossad is already quite aware of it.

[Neuro]

My wife followed Swedish TV yesterday, and according to the youth survivors, there was another shooter on the Island, another man... This would in my opinion mean that the lone mad man theory is out of question... Some type of organisation is behind it. Further a man with a knife was arrested at the Hotel the Norwegian PM Jens Stoltenberg was at visiting survivors and victims families... If the murderer is hired by Mossad to do the job, which I think is likely, he may not know it though. He most likely will get killed soon...
A correction, it was mentioned that the reason they reported two men was that he changed clothes in the middle of the shooting, iow took of his police uniform. But still it seems impossible that he would be able to kill 85 youths in 1 1/2 hour...

[Dogman]

A correction, it was mentioned that the reason they reported two men was that he changed clothes in the middle of the shooting, iow took of his police uniform. But still it seems impossible that he would be able to kill 85 youths in 1 1/2 hour...

In 1 1/2 hours , a lot of killing can take place, look at that dam island, it is small and not a dam place to run to or hide.

[nunaem]

http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/07/anders-behring-breivik/

[General of Darkness]

Willie Peter, are those bullets that just ANYONE could get? Or are they hollow point type rounds that you could make with a file and drill?

[willie pete]

Willie Peter, are those bullets that just ANYONE could get? Or are they hollow point type rounds that you could make with a file and drill?

you can buy "glasers" practically anywhere, they're expensive though, they're basically #4 or #6 bird shot-filled rounds, upon impact they penetrate then disentegrate in a cone-shaped pattern inside the target, they're very lightweight and are very high velocity....several vendors carry them, I think Cor-Bon just bought the company

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=31

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Glaser-Safety-Slug/500/500/dept


I think the main "con" about them is the lack of penetration, IF the target happened to be very big or fat, the GSS may not penetrate deep enough to engage any vitals...

[General of Darkness]

you can buy "glasers" practically anywhere, they're expensive though, they're basically #4 or #6 bird shot-filled rounds, upon impact they penetrate then disentegrate in a cone-shaped pattern inside the target....several vendors carry them, I think Cor-Bon just bought the company

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/index.php?manufacturers_id=31

http://www.shopcorbon.com/Glaser-Safety-Slug/500/500/dept

Got ya, thanks.

[midnight rambler]

Willie Peter, are those bullets that just ANYONE could get? Or are they hollow point type rounds that you could make with a file and drill?

It's best to stick with high quality manufactured PD ammo such as the Ranger T-series, Speer Gold-Dot, Corbon, Glaser, etc. instead of trying to homebrew your own - not just for effectiveness purposes, but for liability purposes as well. Fucking someone up with your own homebrewed ammo will cloud the justification of an otherwise good shoot. Don't do it.

http://38super.net/Images/factory%20expansion/Glaser%20blue%20expansion.jpg

My preference, the Ranger T-series (formerly called the Talon) - it doesn't frag, it dumps energy by extreme expansion.

http://i26.tinypic.com/a3fbl4.jpg

[Joe King]

A correction, it was mentioned that the reason they reported two men was that he changed clothes in the middle of the shooting, iow took of his police uniform. But still it seems impossible that he would be able to kill 85 youths in 1 1/2 hour...


In 1 1/2 hours , a lot of killing can take place, look at that dam island, it is small and not a dam place to run to or hide.

Yea, a lot of killing can take place in 90 minutes.
Does anyone have any idea approx how many people were on the island?
If it's already been posted, I didn't see it.

[Neuro]

Yea, a lot of killing can take place in 90 minutes.
Does anyone have any idea approx how many people were on the island?
If it's already been posted, I didn't see it.

I think around 600 labour party youths were on the Island. He certainly did change Norways political future with his act. In 10-50 years many of those that were on the Island, would be (have been) in parliament, ministers, union bosses, think tank people, administrators etc. My bet is the survivors will be a very close knit group, and will have a deep impact on Norwegian politics for a very long time. For better or for worse. No doubt very safety conscious.

[Joe King]

With that many youths and presumably many adults, as soon as an observer saw what was going on he should have been being stalked himself.
90 minutes is a really long time for no one to do so, or to have at least given him the bums rush, once it was clear he was on a massacre.
...and once one person does, everyone needs to.


By "observer" I mean someone who sees what's going on without being an immediate target. Fall back a bit and start following him and wait for your chance.
Unless of course there really is more than one shooter.

[General of Darkness]

Ponce <------at the top of his class :)

Sure, but taking the short bus to school isn't anything to write home about. :)

[Serpo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018106/You-die-Anders-Behring-Breivik-called-calmly-opening-fire.html

[Joe King]

That's what I mean. If he called them together, they were obviously close to him while in a group.

Once you see your friends dropping, well, a gunman can't point the gun at everyone at the same time, now can he?

I'm not blaming anyone for not doing that, as no one wants to get shot, but if it's clear he's going to shoot you anyways he has to become a target himself.

Again, 90 minutes is a long time unless he had someone watching his back.

Especially so if he had time to change clothes.

[NOOB]

Blond haired, blue eyed nazi. Probably offspring of the boys from Brazil. Mengele definitely had a hand in this. Oh yeah and machine guns. This story has it all.

[gunDriller]

i can't say Israel did it for sure ... but i think they're at the top/front of the list of suspects.

what was the sequence of events ?

what time did the bomb go off, when did the guy do his shooting ?

i wonder if the bomb going off on a weekend day is related to the logistics of the case. if one guy did everything and he couldn't figure out how to set up a timer, he may have used a remote control detonation device.

did he plan it that way all by his lonesome ?

was there a second guy or was that an erroneous news report ?

[Joe King]

Just based upon what all he did, I have a hard time thinking he acted 100% alone.

I realize that a lone person can do alot, but that seems like too much over too long a time, for one guy.

[Down1]

A very troubling story.
Why all the blurry pics.
This is Norway, not Niger.


Here is some info on this idiots "manifesto".

Norway suspect borrowed from Unabomber's manifesto
Parts of the manifesto written by the suspect in Norway's terrorist attack were taken almost word for word from the writings of "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski.

The passages copied by Anders Behring Breivik appear in the first few pages of Kaczynski's manifesto. Breivik changed a Kaczynski screed on leftism and what he considered to be leftists' "feelings of inferiority" — mainly by substituting the words "multiculturalism" or "cultural Marxism" for "leftism."

For instance, Kaczynski wrote: "One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general."

Breivik's manifesto reads: "One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is multiculturalism, so a discussion of the psychology of multiculturalists can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of Western Europe in general."
http://news.yahoo.com/norway-suspect-borrowed-unabombers-manifesto-200617817.html

[Dogman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_A5JN-UHfE&skipcontrinter=1

[learn2swim]

LOL, all the equipment is brand new, not a bit of wear and tear, guess he didn't train much.

His head doesn't match the body. His hands are very white which doesn't match his face and neck. Maybe he wears gloves all the time, and took them off for the picture. LOL

[Joe King]

I think it's 'chopped too, but just for the record, my hands relative to my arms face and neck would look that way too because I actually do wear gloves almost always whenever I'm out in the Sun.
Protects ones hands.

So it's possible. It's all about what people wear when outside. Look at farmers for example. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1283&bih=929&q=farmers%20tan&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

[Dogman]

I think it's 'chopped too, but just for the record, my hands relative to my arms face and neck would look that way too because I actually do wear gloves almost always whenever I'm out in the Sun.
Protects ones hands.

So it's possible. It's all about what people wear when outside. Look at farmers for example. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1283&bih=929&q=farmers%20tan&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

Know it is summer , but that part of Norway is only about 500 miles from the arctic circle. People may wear gloves more in that part of the world.

[Horn]

It maybe they are a tad more civilized than the US. The US has ONLY been around for a few century's. They have had much longer to trying to get it right. Even if they maybe heading in the wrong direction.

Police haven't learned anything in little then 200 years of their existence, its that they are not feared by people in much of the civilized world as they are in the U.S.

No more powerful than your average taxi driver most places.

[learn2swim]

I think it's 'chopped too, but just for the record, my hands relative to my arms face and neck would look that way too because I actually do wear gloves almost always whenever I'm out in the Sun.
Protects ones hands.

So it's possible. It's all about what people wear when outside. Look at farmers for example. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1283&bih=929&q=farmers%20tan&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

I don't think he was a farmer, but I might be wrong. His head still doesn't match the body unless he's inbred. Most people wear sunscreen for sun protection, gloves are too hot. Chances of getting skin cancer on your hands are miniscule compared to the face and neck. Also, who took these pictures? Where's this person?

[nunaem]

I don't think he was a farmer, but I might be wrong. His head still doesn't match the body unless he's inbred. Most people wear sunscreen for sun protection, gloves are too hot. Chances of getting skin cancer on your hands are miniscule compared to the face and neck. Also, who took these pictures? Where's this person?

And what happened to the background!?

[JDRock]

nice thread derail job....thenearlier posts predicted and proved that , yes it WAS the jews and YES they did smearchristians see page 1 of the jew yourk times......funny,they forgot to run thr story of the rabbi ileader of bnai brith who sexually assaulted many

[Joe King]

And what happened to the background!?
I'm not sayng it wasn't 'chopped, but merely offering a reason as to why his hands might be a different shade than his face.

Mine are. Wear gloves all the time. When I'm outside, anyways.

[Joe King]

What I'm seeing now is that he supposedly wants a chance to tell why.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/25/us-norway-idUSL6E7IN00C20110725



Calling himself a crusader against a tide of Islam in a rambling 1,500-page online manifesto, the 32-year-old mass murderer wants the opportunity to explain actions he deemed "atrocious, but necessary".
Lawyer Geir Lippestad said his client had admitted to Friday's shootings at a Labor youth camp and a bomb that killed seven people in Oslo's government district, but that he denies any criminal guilt.

[JDRock]

jewking...stop parroting the party line here and let educated, sensible people like pat colo, sarge and magnes get to the bottom....stop spamming with a bunch of meaningless posts...your pushing others too far to the back

[nunaem]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ll-STT2pLY

Wow, an 'expert' says something true.

[JohnQPublic]

I think the guy missed the biggest problem, and maybe he can blame marxism for this- the Europeans have cut there own genitals off. They are not getting married and they are not having children. This leaves a vacuum, and the North Africans and other Muslims are filling it. It is a huge contradiction to talk about great Christian civilizations but to live like pagans. I bet most of those Crusaders he pictured in his video had 6-8 children (and frankly that is with their wives). How many do the average Norwegian's have? What percentage of Norwegians actually get married? Christian civilization did not sit around playing with themselves then suddenly run off to the Holy Land to have a Crusade once it got out of hand. There is a demographic problem in Europe, but it is largely of their own making, and killing 90 of the youth that they already have just compounds it.

My 2 cents.

[Joe King]

jewking...stop parroting the party line here and let educated, sensible people like pat colo, sarge and magnes get to the bottom....stop spamming with a bunch of meaningless posts...your pushing others too far to the back
I'm not pushing anyone. I posted my thoughts {one post} about the skin tone difference someone else pointed out.
...and a few people responded to it. So you then have to make a post about that.

I care not if you like it. As I told Book, tough titties to you. :D


Edited to add: Does Norway have an economic ponz-scheme system too?

[keehah]

Meanwhile, related script being edited back one notch:

Beck moves Jerusalem rally off the Temple Mount (http://www.salon.com/news/glenn_beck/?story=/politics/war_room/2011/07/18/glenn_beck_israel_rally_location_change)

July 18, 2011
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/07/18/glenn_beck_israel_rally_location_change/md_horiz.jpg
Glenn Beck, on the advice of his security team, is moving his "Rally to Restore Courage" in Israel away from one of the most controversial religious sites. The rally, scheduled for Aug. 24 in Jerusalem was to take place on the Temple Mount.

On Monday Beck announced that the location would be changed because he feared assassination attempts. As our own Justin Elliott noted when Beck first announced the rally, the event likely "will be filled with ambiguous messianic rhetoric and will oppose any sharing of Jerusalem between Israelis and Palestinians, both of whom claim the city as their national capital." Thus, the Temple Mount would have been appropriately controversial as perhaps the holiest site in Jerusalem's Old City.

Beck expressed concern about 40,000 Muslims, heading to the area for Ramadan, despite the fact that most devout Muslims devote the Ramadan month to extra prayer, religious study and fasting.

"The last thing we want to happen is for anyone to be injured in anyway, or there to be any kind of conflict," Beck said.

[nunaem]

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationell.nu%2F2011%2F07%2F24%2 Fex-jude-pekar-ut-mossad-och-isrealiska-judar-hyllar-massmordet%2F

[nunaem]

"He must have been brainwashed"

It's kind of ambiguous what he means by it though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQTvQwhwWQ&feature=player_embedded#at=33

[PatColo]

The Ugly Truth Podcast July 24, 2011 (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/the-ugly-truth-podcast-july-24-2011/)

Posted: July 25, 2011 by crescentandcross in Uncategorized (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/)
http://lipstickandtie.com/images/stories/loadedgun.jpg The Norway Massacre–another false flag operation made in Israel or just the natural consequence of Jewish mainstream media’s fomenting of anti-Islamic hysteria? Mark Dankof joins the program to discuss this and other issues.

Download Here (http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/web/r4f7p5/TUT24JUL2011FIN.mp3)


Numerous other Olso stories posted @ http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/

[PatColo]

Norway Notes (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/norway-notes/)

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Norway-90x65.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/norway-notes/)
The timing of this is all wrong, not just the timing but the scale.
The car bombing carries the signature of an intelligence agency. Nobody else bothers with such things. We had recent experiences in Abuja and prior to that in Alexandria. Both of these were executed to promote strife between Christians and Muslims.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/norway-notes/

[keehah]

Infowars: Oslo Police Conducted Bombing Exercise Days Before Terrorist Blast (http://www.infowars.com/oslo-police-conducted-bombing-exercise-days-before-terrorist-blast/)
Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com July 22, 2011

In yet another example of how almost every major terror event is accompanied by a security drill focused around the same scenario, Oslo police were conducting a bombing exercise at a location near the Oslo Opera House just 48 hours before [and 600m away from] a terrorist blast hit a government building in the Norwegian capital.

According to the translated version of an Aftenposten report (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmobil.aftenposten.no%2Farticle.htm% 3FarticleId%3D3569108), “Anti-terror police fired explosive charges at a training center in Oslo, two hundred meters from the Opera, but forgot to notify the public.”

The exercise occurred on Wednesday and revolved around anti-terror units attacking a disused building at the edge of Bjørvika pier with bombs and firearms.

“The men lowered themselves down from the roof and in through the window that had just been blown out, while they fired hand their weapons,” states the report, noting that the exercise was “dramatic,” produced “violent bangs,” and was watched by spectators at the nearby Opera House.

A video of the drill that accompanies the story shows police scaling the side of a building with an explosion going off below them before they enter the window and start firing.

Police had to publicly apologize today for not informing the public about the exercise.

Although it’s too early to judge the nature of this exercise, the fallback of a drill, which gives the state an excuse should any evidence of complicity in the real attack emerge, has been evident in previous major terror events, including both 7/7 and 9/11.

In the case of the London bombings, a consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th, a “coincidence” many skeptics of the official story have dismissed as a statistical impossibility.
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/215928
News Brief 7/24/2011 10:13:00 PM, Tammuz 22, 5771
Report: Norwegian Shooter Loves Israel

Anders Behring Breivik, the man being held for Friday's shooting at an island off the coast of Norway, expressed anti-Islamic sentiments in English in the past and was an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, according to a Sunday-evening report by Channel 2 television. Breivik's 1,500 page book attacks the European political establishment because he sees it as an ally of the Muslims against Israel, and praises Israel for not giving Muslims the same rights they enjoy in different European countries.

Breivik says, "The time has come to stop the stupid support of the Palestinians...and to start supporting our cultural cousins - Israel." The sight of the massacre was a camp which demanded, days earlier, that Israel "finish the occupation." Anti-Israel, pro-Arab signs were hung in the camp. The death toll in the shooting and the explosion of a bomb in downtown Oslo stands at 93.
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Haaretz: Israel looking into revoking Oslo Accords in response to Palestinian UN bid (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israel-looking-into-revoking-oslo-accords-in-response-to-palestinian-un-bid-1.375060)

25 07 11
Israeli officials did confirm that recent discussions held by Amidror had mentioned the option of voiding the Oslo Accords. However, this is not considered a leading alternative, they said.

"It is one of the options that will be presented to the political echelon," a source said.

Meanwhile, the PA is continuing its preparations ahead of the UN General Assembly meeting in September. Palestinian ambassadors who met in Istanbul over the past two days were informed that a meeting on the final draft of the UN resolution would be held in Doha, Qatar, with representatives of the PA, Qatar, Egypt and Saudi Arabia on August 4.

The resolution will call on the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders as a full UN member.

The Palestinian diplomats were instructed to launch a public relations campaign among international Jewish communities, in an attempt to explain the significance of the move.

Meanwhile, Israel is working to rally support from states to oppose the UN move. It is also making preparations for the "day after."

A senior Israeli official said that three weeks ago, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Amidror to start drafting day-after plans with other government bodies. These include recommending a potential Israeli political response.

Skirting the Security Council

Israeli officials believe the Palestinians will skirt the Security Council and will appeal directly to the General Assembly, in order to avoid a potential American veto. The Palestinian proposal is expected to receive the backing of more than 140 UN members.

Another senior Israel official noted that Amidror has started initial discussions at the NSC with representatives from the foreign, defense, finance, industry and trade, and justice ministries, as well as from the Israel Defense Forces Planning Bureau and the Military Advocate General's Department of International Law.

The NSC asked the various government offices to consider the implications of Israel announcing that it considers the Oslo Accords void due to the unilateral Palestinian move, should the General Assembly approve the bid.

Israel is concerned that the Palestinians may use the General Assembly resolution in order to launch a legal fight in the International Court at the Hague, or to try to alter the economic and security arrangements reached over the past 18 years...
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http://salem-news.com/articles/july232011/oslo-israel-tk.php
(OSLO /SALEM) - Suspected right-wing terrorist Anders Behring Breivik is reported to have written many posts on the website Aftenposten described as "Islam-critical and Israel-friendly". The attack on Oslo came exactly 65 years to the day after the Israeli Irgun [with Chicago Mayor's father] blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem that left over 90 people dead...
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Haaretz: Peres to Norway's king: Massacre broke our hearts in Israel (http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/peres-to-norway-s-king-massacre-broke-our-hearts-in-israel-1.374996)
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http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/netanyahu-cancels-poland-visit-as-israel-is-taken-by-storm-by-housing-protests-1.375185

The Polish prime minister's office said Israel has asked to postpone the one-day visit scheduled for Wednesday, in which Netanyahu was going to try to convince Warsaw to vote against a UN resolution recognizing a Palestinian state, Israeli sources have said.

Netanyahu's cancellation is likely a cause of the rising housing crisis in Israel and the mass protests that have sprouted in various cities...

Meanwhile, a new Facebook protest page went up Monday calling for a general strike on August 1. So far more than 3,700 people said they will participate. The page was created by social activist Zvika Basor, a 36-year-old Givatayim resident and father of a one-year-old baby. He wrote that he bought an apartment "with a crazy 30-year mortgage," and explained why he decided to go on strike: "I am sick of it. I can't keep going to work every day as if nothing is happening, pretending that if I work hard enough I'll be able to provide a decent life for my family and myself."...

[PatColo]

NY Times:

Right-wing extremism scrutinized after attacks (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43871088/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/)
NYT: Norway massacre serves as wake-up call for Europe's security services (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43871088).

BERLIN (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&where1=BERLIN%20&sty=h&form=msdate) — The attacks in Oslo on Friday have riveted new attention on right-wing extremists not just in Norway but across Europe, where opposition to Muslim immigrants, globalization, the power of the European Union and the drive toward multiculturalism has proven a potent political force and, in a few cases, a spur to violence.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43871088/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/

[mick silver]

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/products_id/6237

[sirgonzo420]

Well aren't those masons just everywhere doing their "good works" and "making good men better"?

This Norwegian fellow-traveler was 32 years old, going on 33!

[Olmstein]

No more powerful than your average taxi driver most places.

Hey, now!



NY Times:

Right-wing extremism scrutinized after attacks (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43871088/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/)
NYT: Norway massacre serves as wake-up call for Europe's security services (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43871088).

BERLIN (http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&where1=BERLIN%20&sty=h&form=msdate) — The attacks in Oslo on Friday have riveted new attention on right-wing extremists not just in Norway but across Europe, where opposition to Muslim immigrants, globalization, the power of the European Union and the drive toward multiculturalism has proven a potent political force and, in a few cases, a spur to violence.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43871088/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/

This is not good news, as I am a right-wing extremist myself.

[shakinginmyshoes]

"This is not good news, as I am a right-wing extremist myself. "

Olmstein,

Of COURSE we condemn all violence and vigilantism.

THEN we take a page from the lefties' own playbook and throw the blame for this right back onto the
open-borders multicult.

They *created* him through their arrogant refusal to listen to us reasonable people as we've asked them for *decades* to please stop with the genocidalist race-replacement.

Terrorism is, as the lefties have reminded us ad nauseum in the past, the weapon of the powerless.

[Olmstein]

"This is not good news, as I am a right-wing extremist myself. "

Olmstein,

Of COURSE we condemn all violence and vigilantism.

THEN we take a page from the lefties' own playbook and throw the blame for this right back onto the
open-borders multicult.

They *created* him through their arrogant refusal to listen to us reasonable people as we've asked them for *decades* to please stop with the genocidalist race-replacement.

Terrorism is, as the lefties have reminded us ad nauseum in the past, the weapon of the powerless.

Oh, I'm a non-violent right-wing extremist. I may be the only member here who owns no firearms.

But I'm against immigration, globalization, multiculturalism, brown people in general, etc.

[shakinginmyshoes]

"Oh, I'm a non-violent right-wing extremist.
But I'm against immigration, globalization, multiculturalism, brown people in general, etc. "

Right. We all are, and we still are.

And we've *been* nonviolent for decades, asking, arguing, pleading and explaining why, with solid refutations to every conceivable pro-immigration sophist argument, that we want to keep our countries for ourselves.

But the elites REFUSE to LISTEN.

So, one guy went off the rails.
Well, you know, terrorism IS the weapon of the powerless. The left said so themselves.

If the elites didn't want their offspring murdered, they OUGHT to have listened to us reasonable people. Then Breivik would have never gone crazy.

[Book]

So, one guy went off the rails.



He isn't the only Angry White Male out there...lol.

:) wait until his Manifesto is released and downloaded

[Olmstein]

He isn't the only Angry White Male out there...lol.

:) wait until his Manifesto is released and downloaded

I think his manifesto can be found with a little google (http://www.google.com/search?q=2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence&btnG=Search&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&aq=f&aqi=g-z1&aql=&oq=).

[Dogman]

I think his manifesto can be found with a little google (http://www.google.com/search?q=2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence&btnG=Search&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&aq=f&aqi=g-z1&aql=&oq=).


http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mass-killer-andrew-berwicks-aka-anders-breivik-complete-777724-word-manifesto

[gunDriller]

as of 3 days & counting, i am thinking this guy (Shooter) Anders Behring Breivi
is as he portrays on his Mega-Blog.

working sort of alone, built the bomb himself without blowing himself up, went to the trouble of posing as a sugar beet farmer (watch the government clamp down on farmers via more paperwork roadblocks), possibly using legally obtained firearms.


AND the older blogger he followed was very pro-Israel & may have been an Israeli asset in some way - Sayanim, whatever.

and, Israel may have been following Breivi.

i wonder what are the requirements for optaining the tools Breivi used (ammonium nitrate & firearms) and if the way was paved for him in some way - the farm supply shop that sold him 6 tons of AN - some details about them would be helpful.


http://fjordman.blogspot.com/

from Fjordmann's closing post on his blog -
"In addition to these blogs and websites, which should all be known to most of my readers, you can follow my blog roll to find more blogs and news. Western Resistance should be read every day, as should the Internet Haganah."

Internet Haganah is a link in Fjordmann's post. Haganah is the name of one of the 4 terrorist groups that killed Palestinians & destroyed Palestinian farms & homes from 1935 to 1948.

The Internet Haganah link provided by Fjordmann is dead, but they're not the only website named "Internet Haganah".

http://www.google.com/search?q=Internet+Haganah&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[Quad66]

Most American White Nationalists seem to be disavowing the actions of Breivik, or else claiming “Jewish false flag” or “Manchurian candidate.”

Their primary concern seems to be that his actions might make it more perilous for them to continue complaining to each other about multiculturalism.

My immediate impressions, however, are of a genuine modern-day crusader who (terrifyingly) combines the vitality of a Timothy McVeigh, with the meticulous intellect of a Ted Kaczynski.

My initial impressions of his writings? Pretty much a compendium of everything I’ve been reading on U.S. based White Nationalist websites and forums since the 1990’s, minus the Jew hatred.

And that last bit is highly significant, because, like many European nationalists, I’m convinced that (post WWII) any ideology based on Jew hatred has absolutely zero chance of gaining popular support anywhere in the Western World. (Most Whites would rather die, literally, or at least die out, than be perceived as anti-Jewish.)

On the other hand, a European nationalism oriented around a hostility toward Islam not only has a successful historical precedent, but also, I suspect, at least a snowball’s chance of gaining at least some degree of popular support.

I’ve long suspected that if White Nationalism were to prevail, it would be in Europe, and not in the U.S.

Of course Breivik’s actions could end up bolstering multiculturalism, and in the short term they almost certainly will.

But in the long term? This could get interesting.

We shall see.

[Dogman]

as of 3 days & counting, i am thinking this guy (Shooter) Anders Behring Breivi
is as he portrays on his Mega-Blog.

working sort of alone, built the bomb himself without blowing himself up, went to the trouble of posing as a sugar beet farmer (watch the government clamp down on farmers via more paperwork roadblocks), possibly using legally obtained firearms.


AND the older blogger he followed was very pro-Israel & may have been an Israeli asset in some way - Sayanim, whatever.

and, Israel may have been following Breivi.

i wonder what are the requirements for optaining the tools Breivi used (ammonium nitrate & firearms) and if the way was paved for him in some way - the farm supply shop that sold him 6 tons of AN - some details about them would be helpful. Short blurb on the news saying , he said he had some help 2 people? or groups? so he may not have been totally alone in this.

[nunaem]

I’ve long suspected that if White Nationalism were to prevail, it would be in Europe, and not in the U.S.

This has been my opinion as well. American Whites are way too deracinated to form any meaningful form of nationalism.


EDIT: I meant to say ethnic nationalism. We could always have non-ethnic nationalism simply by returning to the 1924 immigration act.

[Book]

This has been my opinion as well. American Whites are way too deracinated to form any meaningful form of nationalism.



Joe King's full-time job here.

;) he already has two converts

[Joe King]

"Oh, I'm a non-violent right-wing extremist.
But I'm against immigration, globalization, multiculturalism, brown people in general, etc. "


And we've *been* nonviolent for decades, asking, arguing, pleading and explaining why, with solid refutations to every conceivable pro-immigration sophist argument, that we want to keep our countries for ourselves. [/B]

But the elites REFUSE to LISTEN.

So, one guy went off the rails.
Well, you know, terrorism IS the weapon of the powerless. The left said so themselves.

If the elites didn't want their offspring murdered, they OUGHT to have listened to us reasonable people. Then Breivik would have never gone crazy.

You seem to not understand how a ponzi-scheme works, yes?

Decades ago your fellow countrymen allowed their gov to engage in what amounts to a financial pyramid scheme and then quit having offspring in sufficient quantitys to keep it going.

The gov is doing what it has to in order to keep the system that was created for your peoples benefit, going.

I realize that you do not wish to see it that way, but the facts are the facts.

[Joe King]

Joe King's full-time job here.

;) he already has two converts

My job is to restore the Republic. I'm not trying to remove anything from you Book. Well, nothing other than the hate you apparently hold in your heart, anyways.


Edited to add; I have no "converts" Book. I'd say that all human beings here have their own thoughts, dreams, wants and needs.
...but it seems that you don't like the reaction you're starting to get. Good. lol

[FreeEnergy]

Most American White Nationalists seem to be disavowing the actions of Breivik, or else claiming “Jewish false flag” or “Manchurian candidate.”


YES, thanks.

And in the mean time, under the disguise, Israel killed 3rd Iranian nuclear scientist in a row (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52196-Israel-keeps-killing-Iranian-nuclear-scientists).

[shakinginmyshoes]

The gov is doing what it has to in order to keep the system that was created for your peoples benefit, going.

I realize that you do not wish to see it that way, but the facts are the facts.


Wrong, idjit.

Your assertion is belied by a cursory glance at WHO is being mass-imported. Mestizos are IQ 85, half or more are functionally illiterate, and lack sufficient human capital to earn enough to even pay for their OWN upkeep, much the less support the Baby Boomers in their dotage.

Mestizos are a money SINK. That, alone, is proof that the reason for the elites importing them is not so they can keep Social Security afloat. They can't.

Mestizos are being imported to birth babies and gain numerical superiority demographically so they can, first, outvote us American-Americans and, second, when the time comes and they have the vastly superior numerical advantage, slaughter us.

As far as the boomers having "failed have enough kids," that argument is stupid, too.
1. Robotics / automation combined with very the high human-capital of us younger American-Americans could provide for the unproductive aged boomers despite their huge numbers.
2. At some point ALL Ponzi schemes will fail. Even HAD the Boomers had 3.1 kids per woman, the NEXT gen would face the same collapsing Ponzi scheme, anyway. What an unsavory trick to try to keep the Ponzi scheme going for now by importing such undesirables as mestizos.

The ONLY way out is a reduced birthrate COMBINED with automation and the productivity of us smart younger, real Americans.


And the whole "Mexicans will save social security!" idea is laughable, anyway. What? Mexicans don't get old? Who will provide for THEM in their dotage?

[nunaem]

I keep hearing that the teens killed were children of the ruling 'elite'. I know they were members of the ruling party, but does anyone have a source showing that they were the ruling elite? Many of the survivors I saw were immigrants and I doubt that they were part of the elite.

[shakinginmyshoes]

The whole purpose of the camp was to groom future elites, future members of Parliament, future Prime Ministers, etc., indoctrinated in multiculturalism.

Rikki Tikki Tavi knew that to conquer the cobra, you must not only eliminate the snakes, but the eggs, too.

[Joe King]

The gov is doing what it has to in order to keep the system that was created for your peoples benefit, going.


I realize that you do not wish to see it that way, but the facts are the facts.



Wrong, idjit.
I'm wrong that you do not wish to see it that way? Ok. That's fine with me. lol ;)



Seriously though, ponzi-schemes don't run on improved technology, but rather warm bodies who are willing to plug into the system as its fodder.

If there are some who have lower IQs, all that means is that more of them are needed to fill the gap.

If your own people were wholly responsible for their own growth in a system that requires it, the system would have crashed long ago and we wouldn't even be having this nice discussion, now.

[JohnQPublic]

The whole purpose of the camp was to groom future elites, future members of Parliament, future Prime Ministers, etc., indoctrinated in multiculturalism.

Rikki Tikki Tavi knew that to conquer the cobra, you must not only eliminate the snakes, but the eggs, too.

I think King Herod tried something like that, too.

[shakinginmyshoes]

"I'm wrong that you do not wish to see it that way? Ok. That's fine with me. lol ;)"


Nice try at being obtuse. No, the "wrong" refers to your supposed facts.









"If there are some who have lower IQs, all that means is that more of them are needed to fill the gap."

Lower IQ means he can't even pay for himself, much the less anyone (like a Baby Boomer) else.

Low IQ businessman: I'm losing money on each widget I sell. I know! I'll sell more of them!
Low IQ businessman to accountant: What do you mean, I'm bankrupt?



"If your own people were wholly responsible for their own growth in a system that requires it, the system would have crashed long ago and we wouldn't even be having this nice discussion, now"








False.

For example: Whatever economic growth the chattel slavery plantation system created, far MORE was destroyed in the Civil War. (can provide link if you insist, but right now I've gotta run).
Whatever economic growth sharecropping created has long since been eaten up by the TRILLIONS poured into "social justice" programs such as welfare, affirmative-action hires of unproductive "diversity coordinators", crime of the 40 MILLION blacks currently alive, nearly all of whom are parasitic in one way or another.

The only reason the system hasn't crashed IS due to the gobsmacking productivity of American-Americans.

But, the gobsmacking productivity has reached its limit now, and the system is crashing.

[nunaem]

Breivik: Imposing Costs on Multicultural Elites
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/07/breivik-imposing-costs-on-the-multicultural-elites/

[Joe King]

Lower IQ means he can't even pay for himself, much the less anyone (like a Baby Boomer) else.Sorry, but there are lots of jobs that people do not need to be a rocket scientist to do.
Also, just remember that there are high IQ people in all fields and walks of life.
Your elitist mentality dis-serves you.
There are also less than high IQ people in all walks of life.
Try asking Intertel. I have.



Low IQ businessman: I'm losing money on each widget I sell. I know! I'll sell more of them!Sounds like the average American businessman today.

Low IQ businessman to accountant: What do you mean, I'm bankrupt?Ditto previous answer.




"If your own people were wholly responsible for their own growth in a system that requires it, the system would have crashed long ago and we wouldn't even be having this nice discussion, now"


False. No, true. Ever heard of Madoff? He ran out of new people to grow his base.....and then it failed. Same as is happening in virtually every western nation today.


For example: Whatever economic growth the chattel slavery plantation system created, far MORE was destroyed in the Civil War. (can provide link if you insist, but right now I've gotta run). You mean like slavery being destroyed?


Whatever economic growth sharecropping created has long since been eaten up by the TRILLIONS poured into "social justice" programs such as welfare, affirmative-action hires of unproductive "diversity coordinators", crime of the 40 MILLION blacks currently alive, nearly all of whom are parasitic in one way or another.
The biggest reason you have those costs today is because the generation alive at the time tried every dirty trick in the Book to keep the newly freed slaves "in their place" and without equal Rights.
At some point, and after so many decades {like 8 of 'em} of hearing how your parents and grandparents had to live in fear of things like lynchings for merely existing, some of them want to pay back in kind.

In many cases they wouldn't even let them go to public school so that they might get an education so as to improve their status.
No, because if they get educated they might get a good paying job and then want to move into the "wrong" neighborhood.
No "movin' on up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UKot0qIFb4)", for them.

If that's not intentionally keeping someone down, what is?

Which is really why you need to give up the false sense of superiortity you have.
ie you're obviously no better than what you seem to hate.

Try putting down the white nationalist propaganda and be a part of the real World instead.

[Dogman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUc3wd4It8g

Well it looks like another good thread that got derailed.

[Joe King]

I posted similar to what JQP posted, but some here seem to only like arguing with me about it. I have no idea why.



I think the guy missed the biggest problem, and maybe he can blame marxism for this- the Europeans have cut there own genitals off. They are not getting married and they are not having children. This leaves a vacuum, and the North Africans and other Muslims are filling it. It is a huge contradiction to talk about great Christian civilizations but to live like pagans. I bet most of those Crusaders he pictured in his video had 6-8 children (and frankly that is with their wives). How many do the average Norwegian's have? What percentage of Norwegians actually get married? Christian civilization did not sit around playing with themselves then suddenly run off to the Holy Land to have a Crusade once it got out of hand. There is a demographic problem in Europe, but it is largely of their own making, and killing 90 of the youth that they already have just compounds it.

All I added to that was what the govs are doing about it. {more immigration}

Shakinginfear needs to argue with him about it.

[shakinginmyshoes]

Guess what, Joker?

All that whining about how terrible things were for Blacks once upon a time?

Well, Whites could afford to feel sorry for them when they were less than 10% of the population and
we were 90%. Now Blacks are 14%, mestizos are 16%, and American-Americans are barely 50%.
Can't support so many parasites.

As Pat Buchanan said, Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?



Well, we Whites are broke now, from too many parasites. We can't afford sympathy anymore, so, too bad. The Day the EBT Card Stops Working approaches quickly.

Senegal would like Blacks to come and populate their country, though. Even offered free land to the Haitians after the earthquake.


At some point, and after so many decades {like 8 of 'em} of hearing how your parents and grandparents had to live in fear of things like lynchings for merely existing, some of them want to pay back in kind.

3000 lynchings TOTAL in all the 100 years of Jim Crow between the freeing of the slaves in 1865 and civil rights law passage in 1964.

Compare: 4000 + Black on White murders PER YEAR in America TODAY. In 2005, 37,000 rapes of White women by Blacks. Number of rapes by White men of Black women that year? Less than 10.

In 45 years since civil rights, the black population in America has exploded, affirmative action gives blacks access to colleges they can't get in on merit, and a black middle class that is almost entirely composed of gov't employees. You EVEN got a black president. What MORE could you possibly want?

BUT, here in Black Run America, fewer than 30% of black babies have a father in the home and 50% of black males will commit a felony at some point in their lives. White flight is NOT an evil act of Whitey but is in fact ethnic cleansing of Whites by Blacks.

And, yes, the libtards who constantly harp on ancient history, are RESPONSIBLE for the Black - on- White crime that Blacks who are "paying back in kind" are committing TODAY.

[Joe King]

]
As Pat Buchanan said, Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
Consider it your reparations for your past generations having treated 'em as less than human.


3000 lynchings TOTAL in all the 100 years of Jim Crow between the freeing of the slaves in 1865 and civil rights law passage in 1964.

Compare: 4000 + Black on White murders PER YEAR in America TODAY. In 2005, 37,000 rapes of White women by Blacks. Number of rapes by White men of Black women that year? Less than 10.

Yea, paybacks are a bitch, ain't they? lol


If you don't like the valid reason I gave for govs of western nations loosening immigration policies, that's fine.
Just tell your people to quit cutting off their own genitles and quit going off topic.
This is about Norway and their immigration issues. Remember?

[mick silver]

dam ... .................................................. ..........................................

[JohnQPublic]

Guys- In don't mind a vigorous discussion, but please stay on topic, and don't attack each other. This thread is about the Norway shootings. The thunderdome is open and available to sims and jk if some other points need to be ironed out.

[Joe King]

I agree JQP. He asked why the gov won't listen on immigration, I answered his question, and then all he wants to do is argue.

Well I'm like the police in that I shoot back when shot at first.


If you want to delete all this after my original post answering him, please do. I fully support that.

[JohnQPublic]

Another speculative thought I'm throwing out:

What if the shooter (Andrew B.) was set-up to do the bombing by an interested organization with the intention of blaming it on Islam, but the shooter then planned the island shooting on his own as a sescondary enterprise. Perhaps he knew he was hanging out there for a possible set-up, and decided to be sure that he became discovered, and that his ideas, not whomever funded him became the talk of the world. Sounds a little far fetched, but if Islam-bashing were the goal, then the island shooting does not fit in.

[shakinginmyshoes]

Okay, then,
Thunderdome

[Dogman]

Another speculative thought I'm throwing out:

What if the shooter (Andrew B.) was set-up to do the bombing by an interested organization with the intention of blaming it on Islam, but the shooter than planned the island shooting on his own as a sescondary enterprise. Perhaps he knew he was hanging out there for a possible set-up, and decided to be sure that he became discovered, and that his ideas, niot whomever funded him became the talk of the world. Sounds a little far fetched, but if Islam-bashing were the goal, then the island shooting does not fit in.

The more I look at this, the more he looks like the real deal. White nationalist that snapped and wanted to get his point across. He hated to see his homeland and Europe being taken over by the non whites. Now is this true? Who knows right now! Only time will tell the real truth. IMHO!

[JohnQPublic]

The more I look at this, the more he looks like the real deal. White nationalist that snapped and wanted to get his point across. He hated to see his homeland and Europe being taken over by the non whites. Now is this true? Who knows right now! Only time will tell the real truth. IMHO!

I agree, things are more consistent with this scenario. Maybe the bombing was a diversion to give him time on the island? Other than big effects, why both? Seems risky (of course he does appear off his rocker). Maybe the perpetrators could not agree and decided to do both?

[Neuro]

I keep hearing that the teens killed were children of the ruling 'elite'. I know they were members of the ruling party, but does anyone have a source showing that they were the ruling elite? Many of the survivors I saw were immigrants and I doubt that they were part of the elite.
Some no doubt are children of the ruling elite, but in Scandinavia in particular, practically all parties have a quota for women and immigrants. The press regularly runs statistics on these things, and hang out parties that perform 'poorly', and none of the established parties wants to seem like they are xenophobic or male chauvinist, so they make sure a sufficient number of immigrants and women are on the lists in positions they are likely to get elected into parliament.

This camp is for grooming of future socialist party leaders and functionairies, hardly anyone gets into a top position of the party unless they have been groomed in from the beginning through childhood and youth. The politicos is a seperate caste.

[Dogman]

I agree, things are more consistent with this scenario. Maybe the bombing was a diversion to give him time on the island? Other than big effects, why both? Seems risky (of course he does appear off his rocker). Maybe the perpetrators could not agree and decided to do both?

Making a major statement, the bomb was the opening salvo. And the Kids were the prime target. Bomb on timer, gives time to setup for the island operation. Anyway that is the way it makes sense to me. And he probably had some help in some ways (money?), he is clameing 2 organizations helped him now.

[JohnQPublic]

They are becoming commercialized...like everything else, it gets ruined.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jpost-store-mossad-t-shirts.jpg

Buy a bunch and hand them out to the homeless on skid row.

[MAGNES]

The more I look at this, the more he looks like the real deal. White nationalist that snapped and wanted to get his point across. He hated to see his homeland and Europe being taken over by the non whites. Now is this true? Who knows right now! Only time will tell the real truth. IMHO!

He is a self proclaimed " ZIONIST " .

Did you bother to read my last posts ?

There is way more out there, he wants to " TARGET ANTI ZIONISTS " .
He did exactly that.

This guy is a total complete neocon. He is HOROWITZ/PODORETZ .
They are his best friends, the subversive marxists he claims to hate.

He is a mason, pro gay, anti racist, etc, a total Jew.

From what he writes it is not possible for him not to know the truth
on subversives, immigration, police state, 9/11, etc etc

Right now he is being used to smear everyone.

Everyone is already on to all of this, it's pretty impressive.


Guess what,

My previous points to Dogman apply to your comments too.

Earlier I pointed out what the media was not telling the public,
calling them " kids at camp ", it was the labor party, targeted,
they don't want people to know what was being done on that
island cause it will smear Jews and Israel as well, they are busy
smearing Christians, real Conservatives, using false labels, etc,
truth is though they are kids and no good will come of this,
and it is being used against everyone, if some loon does
not do something like this they will run a false flag as they have
done in past to accomplish their goals, the irony is the left was empowered
by Jews now they are attacking Israel, more power to them in that
regard. His attacks do nothing but harm and are being used that
way. Even Rand Paul is on SPLC list now, they are doing this
in States too. Nobody here should be a cheerleader for this.
He didn't shoot a high level leader, not Muslim, not politician.
He went for maximum confusion and sympathy headlines, and
made it easy for the media smearing everyone, from Muslims
to the Pope even, the Pope apparently was asked to answer for
this " Christian " , the Mason .

[keehah]

Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik’s fellow Zionist hatemongers (http://www.redress.cc/global/gatzmon20110726)
By Gilad Atzmon redress.cc 26 July 2011

Gilad Atzmon views an article by Zionist writer and former Trotskyite David Horowitz, written on the eve of the Utoeye Island massacre in Norway, “which could well have provided mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik with all the motivation he needed to commit his crime”.

Thanks to respected anti-Zionist Jeff Blankfort (who provided me with a crucial link), I have now learned that, just one day before last the 22 July massacre in Norway, former Trotskyite-turned-neoconservative David Horowitz carried an article by Joseph Klein in his Front Page Magazine entitled "The Quislings of Norway", which could well have provided mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik with all the motivation he needed to commit his crime.

You are advised to read the article in full here (http://frontpagemag.com/2011/07/20/the-quislings-of-norway/).

Here are some of the “pearls” produced by the pro-war right-wing Jewish magazine, just a few hours before Behring Breivik picked up his guns and launched into his lethal journey:


The infamous Norwegian Vidkun Quisling, who assisted Nazi Germany as it conquered his own country, must be applauding in his grave… In the latest example of Norwegian collaboration with the enemies of the Jews, Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere declared during a news conference this week, alongside Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, that “Norway believes it is perfectly legitimate for the Palestinian president to turn to the United Nations” to seek recognition of an independent Palestinian state.

During the Nazi occupation of Norway, nearly all Jews were either deported to death camps or fled to Sweden and beyond. Today, Norway is effectively under the occupation of anti-Semitic leftists and radical Muslims, and appears willing to help enable the destruction of the Jewish state of Israel.

Norway’s Labour Party lawmaker Anders Mathisen has gone even further and publicly denied the Holocaust. He said that Jews “exaggerated their stories” and “there is no evidence the gas chambers and or mass graves existed”. While the Norwegian political establishment and opinion-maker elite may not have reached that point of lunacy just yet, they do tend to treat Muslims as the victims of Israeli oppression – as if today’s Muslims are filling the shoes of the Jewish victims of the Holocaust and today’s Nazis are the Israelis.

Socialist leader Kristin Halvorsen has been leading the boycott Israel campaign. While serving as Norway’s finance minister, she was amongst the demonstrators at an anti-Israel protest, in which a poster read (translated): “The greatest axis of evil: USA and Israel.” Among the slogans repeatedly shouted at the demonstration was (as translated) “Death to the Jews!”

Last year, the Norwegian government decided to divest from two Israeli entities working in the West Bank. Norway’s sovereign wealth fund divested from the Israeli company Elbit, because it has worked on the Israeli security fence that keeps out Palestinian suicide bombers. Israel has also been blocked from bidding for Norwegian defence contracts.”

Part of the motivation for this anti-Semitism is the influx into Norway in recent decades of masses of Muslims from Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia and elsewhere. Multiculturalism has taught Norway’s cultural elite to take an uncritical, even obsequious, posture toward every aspect of Muslim culture and belief. When Muslim leaders rant against Israel and the Jews, the reflexive response of the multiculturalist elite is to join them in their rantings. This is called solidarity.

The truth of the matter is surely clear by now: it is right-wing Jewish, pro-war platforms such as Front Page Magazine, Daniel Pipes, Harry’s Place and others following their example, that consciously, openly, deviously and divisively cultivate a prevalent culture of hate and Islamophobia.

Was Anders Behring Breivik a follower of Front Page Magazine or the equally inciting and hateful Harry’s Place? We cannot know for sure yet – but hopefully we will find out soon.

However, the message should be urgent and clear to all of us: police, intelligence and home security services around the world must surely investigate and clampdown on these hate-inspiring outlets, immediately. Their motivations, aims and activities must be brought under scrutiny and questioned. For the sake of peace and our general safety, lawmakers in Europe and America had better quickly put into place the necessary measures to restrain the activity of these Zionist warmongers in our midst.

[vacuum]

Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik’s fellow Zionist hatemongers (http://www.redress.cc/global/gatzmon20110726)

Ok, I'm confused now....why is the bad terrorist guy being shown to be a zionist?

I guess it doesn't matter though....the words "zionist" and "israel" don't even appear in these articles...the three currently on drudge:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018506/Norway-attacks-Anders-Behring-Breivik-tells-judge-terror-network-2-cells.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903999904576467432090630592.html?m od=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8658995/Norway-shooting-killer-confirms-Gro-Harlem-Brundtland-was-main-target.html

[Joe King]

I read your links and noticed this line.

He added that there was a serious risk he could tamper with evidence if set free

Why would that even be an option? Are they that lenient on crime in Norway? I know about the 21 year max he could get, but to free him now would be crazy.

[JDRock]

I read your links and noticed this line.

He added that there was a serious risk he could tamper with evidence if set free

Why would that even be an option? Are they that lenient on crime in Norway? I know about the 21 year max he could get, but to free him now would be crazy.

Joe has all kinds of time to read and re-read posts as his job at the adl office pays him to do so.....no doubt chomping a bagel
while he and the 3 stooges who follow his lead post on forum after forum.....tired old formula, EASILY spotted by the veteran posters of the old gim 1.

[Quad66]

The quibbling, the nit-picking, the distancing, and the dark speculation.

Throughout the rightwing blogosphere, and on countless forums, on it goes.

By way of contrast: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2011/0725/Norway-massacre-Breivik-manifesto-attempts-to-woo-India-s-Hindu-nationalists

An anti-Muslim Hindu nationalist, in India, when interviewed by the Christian Science Monitor, issued a (very) perfunctory condemnation of Breivik’s murder spree, and then, speaking as a fellow nationalist, proceeded to express unabashed ideological solidarity with his desire to preserve the ethnic, cultural, and religious integrity of his nation.

His conclusion was pretty much that aggression begets aggression, and there simply comes a time when a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

Compare this to our brave White Nationalists, Cultural Conservatives, Race Realists, and HBD advocates, falling over themselves to pin this on “the Jews,” or else somehow shunt any potential blame, suspicion, or criticism away from themselves. (Lest, heaven forbid, the government single them out for extra groping at the airport when they go on vacation!)

In effect, they all seem to be saying, in one way or another, “no modern white man could possibly, on his own nitiative, exhibit this level of murderous brutality, ruthless cunning, and lethal audacity in defense of his political beliefs. Nope, he had to be insane, or else there was a Jew behind it!”

And they wonder why they’re losing?

Here’s a little secret, something they didn’t teach you in any of those Advanced Placement computer programming courses: Chicks dig killers.

Or, at the very least, they tend to privately despise men who automatically and reflexively eschew any and all violence.

White Nationalists? I ask you, is this is not your man? Is this not your moment? Will you continue to quibble and prevaricate, or will you heed the call to arms?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5SWxpExeV8


If not, you may as well follow my lead, and marry a Mestiza, and join La Raza Cosmica. You know you’re always welcomed.

419

Yep, headed for prison. And just like the Israeli guy who knocked off Yitzhak Rabin, he’ll have a mailbag full of marriage proposals waiting for him when he gets there.

[keehah]

I'd be willing to bet its 21 years 'per offence'. Alex Jones made this same mistake.

Alex actually covered most of the Zionist linkages also linked here on his radio show yesterday (some here in the beginning of the clip, more right after the Dr. Steve Pieczenik interview earlier in the show. If unusual for Alex, he was reacting to his interview with Dr. Steve Pieczenik, who after sheep dipping himself talking about 9/11 and Omaba Osama disaster on the show recently tried (and failed) to sell the government lie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvdpeLBq63Q&feature=player_profilepage

http://ubisurv.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/us-subversion-in-norway/

According to the Dagbladet newspaper, Norway’s TV2 News reported that 15-20 Norwegians, including ex-police, had been recruited by the US Embassy over 10 years to form a secret group, the Surveillance Detection Unit (SDU) that would apparently monitor terrorist threats in Norway. The group operated from a building near the embassy, and collected information on hundreds of Norwegian citizens, whose details were added to a database called SIMAS (Security Incident Management Analysis System).

[shakinginmyshoes]

truth is though they are kids

The "youth" camp was for young adults age 16 -25. The news is now coming out those "kids" were an average age of 23. And many of the victims were non-ethic Norwegian "Norwegians".

We send men to war ages 17-25. These were not "children," except in the sense they were the children (i.e., offspring) of the ruling elite.

I can't spare any tears for the currently-being-groomed-to-continue-the-policies offspring of an elite that DELIBERATELY imports Muslims to rape other people's young daughters. (ALL rapes in Norway last year were by Muslims.) My sympathies are all used up by the THOUSANDS of young ladies (as young as 12-- which IS a child), daughters of ordinary Norwegians, being raped by the Muslims the elites import.

Consider: had this camp been of Hitler Youth, would anyone be saying "nothing good can come"?

My attitude may seem harsh, but my people are being genocided.

[keehah]

Consider: had this camp been of Hitler Youth, would anyone be saying "nothing good can come"?

The camp was full of the next generation of Norway's National Socialists.
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/boycott-israel.jpg

They were genocided by a self described Zionist in an act that ultimately only supports a Zionist agenda. Only clear (short term) motive is to send a message to Norway to not criticise or act against Israel power and to continue to participate in Nato's Zio-Hitleresque war crimes. Mid term motive to fool other Western Christians to 'own' (then demonize in the public mind) Zionist mass murder of white kids.

Don't be so blinded by Zionist propaganda you support Zionist genocide against your people!

Few here should need reminding that the larger Abrahamic plot is the psychopathic cold blooded killer father getting his two oldest sons fighting each other.

Edited to add: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler

Glenn Beck, the rightwing US broadcaster and Tea Party favourite, has compared those who were massacred on the Norwegian island of Utøya to the Nazi party's youth wing.

"There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler youth, or, whatever. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics. Disturbing," said Beck on his syndicated radio show.

[Son-of-Liberty]

truth is though they are kids

The "youth" camp was for young adults age 16 -25. The news is now coming out those "kids" were an average age of 23. And many of the victims were non-ethic Norwegian "Norwegians".

We send men to war ages 17-25. These were not "children," except in the sense they were the children (i.e., offspring) of the ruling elite.

I can't spare any tears for the currently-being-groomed-to-continue-the-policies offspring of an elite that DELIBERATELY imports Muslims to rape other people's young daughters. (ALL rapes in Norway last year were by Muslims.) My sympathies are all used up by the THOUSANDS of young ladies (as young as 12-- which IS a child), daughters of ordinary Norwegians, being raped by the Muslims the elites import.

Consider: had this camp been of Hitler Youth, would anyone be saying "nothing good can come"?

My attitude may seem harsh, but my people are being genocided.

So assuming Brevik is who you think he is what is the motive for the bombings?

[shakinginmyshoes]

The camp was full of the next generation of Norway's National Socialists.

Eh, wot? The camp was for Labour Youth -- that is, to train the offspring of the Ruling Labour (leftist, "anti-racist" pro-immigration) Party to carry the banner of "anti-racist" One World Gov't (aka: Jews rule and Whites are browned-out and/or slaughtered out of existence) to its next level.

In point of fact the Labour Youth is the diametric opposite of the Hitler Youth (both totalitarian but one pro-Nationalist, the other pro-Globalist).

Me, I'm squarely in the middle. I like White people AND I like my freedom IN MY OWN COUNTRY AMONG MY OWN (American-American) people.

Now, it's true that ABB was a sadly misguided pro-Zionist nutjob. HOWEVER, his point that Muslim immigration is bad for (not JUST the Jews, but) the Norwegians, is TRUE.

[shakinginmyshoes]

So assuming Brevik is who you think he is what is the motive for the bombings?

That the Norwegian Ruling Class, unless they START LISTENING to ordinary Norwegians and STOP the anti-White genocidalist levels of immigration of hostiles (Muslims, to be precise), the Ruling Class can expect to lose more family members by OTHER nutjobs like ABB who go postal.

[Joe King]

Don't be trying to confuse the issue now, Son of Liberty. lol

[keehah]

So assuming Brevik is what he says he is what is the motive for the bombings?

The war on terror benefits Zionist[Masonic]-Mil-Gov.
NATO = Templar more than any other gang was about to loose Norway in its current Libyan war crimes campaign.

An example indicating such linkage: http://www.osmth.org/morder_intl.htm

Exception is made, however, for those Templars serving in the multination NATO organization for whom it is difficult to accede to a local Grand Priory. They are grouped into the supranational body called the Grand Priory of NATO, hosting NATO officers from different countries and not bound geographically.

[Son-of-Liberty]

Looking at the targets and the damage done in the bombings from what I can tell this looks more like Israel sending a message to Norway to get back in line with all the other western countries that are pro Israel.

[keehah]

Looking at the targets and the damage done in the bombings from what I can tell this looks more like Israel sending a message to Norway to get back in line with all the other western countries that are pro Israel.

Yes!
And if the spin to turn this Masonic Zionist into a 'right wing Christian' works on 'progressives' [and those who drank too much of the MSM 'anti-Muslim' Koolaid in the 'war on terror' to date] they can demonize resistance, (even awareness?) to the plans to continue the destruction of 'Western' economy and culture. Much as they did with Muslims in phase 1.

[DMac]

Yes!
And if the spin to turn this Masonic Zionist into a 'right wing Christian' works on 'progressives' they can demonize resistance, (even awareness?) to the plans to continue the destruction of 'Western' economy and culture. Much as they did with Muslims in phase 1.

+1 keehah

I think we are in the early stages of shifting (or adding to) the demonization blanket. First it was the Muslims, next up the whites.

[shakinginmyshoes]

I think it's possible that ABB was BOTH a (MK Ultra-brainwashed?) Mossad agent AND, somewhere in there, a Norwegian with feelings of loyalty to ordinary Norwegians who are being screwed over by the White-genocidalist pro-mass-immigrationist Labour Party elite (Norwegians who are traitors to ordinary Norwegians).

If ABB viewed Jews as Whites, as he seems to, he may not have seen any conflict between acting as an agent to bomb a gov't building Send a Message to Norway to support Israel against Palestinians AND to shoot a bunch of the ruling classes' kids to get the ruling class to stop importing Muslims into Norway. From one point of view (not mine) there's no contradiction.

[shakinginmyshoes]

ABB's confusion lies in the common confusion amongst pro-Whites:

Are Jews White?

Not even Jews are consistent. Jews claim Whiteness when it suits their argument (We are White. We are part of Western Civ so you, America and Europe, must eliminate our Muslim enemies).
But Jews are non-White when THAT suits their argument: like, say, offloading "white guilt", as Mike Wallace did when, in an interview with a black accusing him for Whites and slavery said, "No. I'm a Jew."

Jews are mimickers. They look White. But their though-processes and loyalties are Semitic. Jews squabble with Arabs, but ally with them against their common enemy, the White man. Jews OPENED the Gates of Vienna for the Muslim invaders all those centuries ago. Nothing changes. Jews call Moor (Arab) -ruled Spain their Golden Age until Queen Isabella threw them ALL out in 1492.

That's why Jews in Norway side with Muslims to allow mass immigration of Muslims. But Jews in Israel ALSO want the White man to fight his squabbles with his Arab neighbors for him.

But the philosemitic pro-Zionist anti-Jihadists like ABB don't understand this. They are confused and think Jews are on our side.

[keehah]

My condolences if he is a real victim. Posting though as this could be what happened to the second gunman witnesses reported.

Regardless, this is how the killer got his police uniform?
Stepson in powered elite family is a category well represented in mind controled murderer patsies.

http://www.en.rian.ru/world/20110725/165374973.html

A stepbrother of Norway's Crown Princess Mette Marit, policeman Trond Berntsen, was one of the victims shot dead by the gunman, who fired at random during his attack, Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet said. The policeman, who was reported missing following the shooting, became one of the gunman's first victims when he tried to stop him, the paper said.

[Edit: Seems he was a victim. The guard on the island. Here is the story. If true should have many witnesses]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/26/norway-massacre-brave-pair-shot-down-by-killer-for-trying-to-raise-the-alarm-115875-23297575/#ixzz1TEcNXveK

Kitchen helper Monica Bosei, 45, approached Breivik, who was disguised as a police officer, on a ferry taking people to Utoya.

She became suspicious when he snubbed her *questions about the earlier bombing in Oslo and notified guard Trond Berntsen, 51, when the boat docked.

They confronted Breivik but he shot Monica before turning the gun on Trond, an off-duty policeman and stepbrother of Norway’s Crown Princess Mette-Marit.
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/26/norway.terror.attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Oslo, Norway (CNN) -- Norwegian massacre suspect Anders Behring Breivik was "a little bit surprised" that he was able to pull off a bombing and shooting rampage in which he is accused of killing 76 people in total, his lawyer said Tuesday.

His client was surprised that his plan "succeeded -- succeeded in his mind," attorney Geir Lippestad said at a news conference, adding that Breivik didn't expect to reach Utoya Island, where he is accused of shooting 68 people dead Friday.

Breivik also used drugs before the attacks Friday that were designed to keep him strong and awake, his attorney said.

Lippestad said it was too early to say if Breivik will plead insanity. Asked if his client was insane, he responded: "Yes, he may be."
He added: "This whole case indicates that he's insane."

Lippestad said it was "very difficult" to describe Breivik's manner -- "he is not like anyone."

Geert Wilders, a Dutch politician whose Freedom Party is referenced in a manifesto apparently written by Breivik, condemned the suspect's alleged actions Tuesday. Wilders said he was not "responsible for a lone idiot who twisted the freedom-loving anti-Islamization ideals" of his party...

Earlier, Breivik's father said his son should have killed himself instead of allegedly going on the killing spree...

"No. I will never have more contact with him," he told TV2.

[Awoke]

This is the fist I have seen this thread, and I only read through to page 5, so forgive me, but:

I have a nagging thought that won't go away. His Facebook page was created just recently with a bunch of shit that we all know is fuel for the NWO fire. What if this guy was nowhere near that island? I mean, what if he was kidnapped from his home and set up?

It could happen to any one of us, if we let it. Just a thought.

I can't see a Muslim hater opening fire on white people. Doesn't make sense. You GSus'rs have it nailed to a Tee:
"Inside job with outside assistance".

Two shooters, Norway bycotting Israel and supporting palistine, etc etc. It screams Psyop FF.

[Book]

Norway boycotting Israel and supporting Palestine...



That's why he targeted that young group on the island. They were supporting the UN vote in September to recognize Palestine as a state.

[Awoke]

One other thing I would like to mention, is that if the people in Norway practiced Open or Concealed carry, the death toll would have been under 10 people, I'm sure.

[Serpo]

The Oslo Attacks - More False Flag Evidence
By Stephen Lendman
7-26-11
The memorable line from Gilbert & Sullivan's HMS Pinafore explains what's so often true, saying:

"Things are seldom as they seem. Skim milk masquerades as cream."

With considerable mass media help, especially America's, misinformation diverts public attention from vital truths, playing their usual gatekeeper role, providing fiction and irrelevancies, not fact.

For example, initial reports cited Islamic militants, naming Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (aka Helpers of the Global Jihad), though no one knows if the group actually exists.

On July 22, New York Times writers Elisa Mala and J. David Goodman headlined, "At Least 80 Dead in Norway Shooting," claiming with no corroborating evidence:

"There was ample reason for concern that (Islamic) terrorists might be responsible. In 2004 and again in 2008, the No. 2 leader of Al Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahri, who took over after the death of Osama bin Laden, threatened Norway because of its support of the American-led NATO military operation in Afghanistan."

In fact, no verifiable evidence confirms it. The claim is based on an alleged April 2003 Al Qaeda tape, urging Muslims to strike US, UK, Australian and Norwegian embassies and commercial interests because of their Afghanistan and/or Iraq involvement.

However, past audio and video tapes were later proved fakes. Perhaps this one also. Nonetheless, America's media, including the New York Times, report them as fact, lying for the interests they represent.

The Times also avoided due diligence on why Norway was attacked, instead expressing surprise about an "assault on the ordinarily peaceful Scandinavian country."

Norway, of course, is a NATO member. It has token forces in Afghanistan, and agreed to be an anti-Gaddafi coalition partner for three months, saying in May it would scale down involvement and pull out entirely by August 1.

As a result, the State Department criticized its government's "lack of commitment," concerned it would influence other NATO states to drop out. On June 10, in fact, the Netherlands announced it would continue enforcing Libya's no-fly zone, but no longer engage in air strikes.

Since July 22, Western media, especially America's, highlighted the lone bomber/gunman story, focusing on right-wing Christian fundamentalist Anders Breivik, claiming he alone managed to do the near impossible - plan and engineer a sophisticated, possible multiple car bomb attack, then head off undetected to Utoeya Island, 19 miles away and singlehandedly kill dozens children.

On July 25, Norway's police revised the death toll down to 68, plus another eight bombing victims.

Breivik's alleged motive reflected his neocon right-wing sympathies, anti-Islamization views, and hostility to multiculturalism. Regardless of how many Breivik types agree, they don't bomb government buildings or mass murder children. On July 22, something entirely different happened. Two previous articles discussed it, accessed through the following links:

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2011/07/oslo-attacks-comment-and-analysis.html

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2011/07/possible-israeli-connection-to-oslo.html

The first one asked who gains and loses from every terror incident, certainly not suspects charged, convicted and imprisoned. Geopolitical interests always are key.

The second article suggested an Israeli connection because of Norway's Palestinian sympathies, including its support for independence and de jure UN membership, as well as criticism of Israeli settlements and belligerence.

Notably, Eileen Fleming observed that Friday's attack occurred on the 65th King David Hotel (1946) bombing anniversary, carried out by (pre-Israeli) Irgun terrorists led by future prime minister Menachem Begin.

It massacred 92 Brits, Arabs and Jews, wounded 52 others, and Israel's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion (then Jewish Agency head) approved it.

Preceding the incident to the present, Israel carried out numerous terror attacks, and committed or attempted many thousands of targeted killings. Perhaps Oslo on July 22 was its latest, alone or jointly with its CIA and/or other Western intelligence counterparts.

Analyst Bob Chapman, a frequent Progressive Radio News Hour guest, believes Friday's attack was a false flag, citing two reasons:

-- pulling out of NATO's Libya coalition entirely by August 1; and

-- withholding its $42 million contribution to Greece's bailout, calling it a waste of money, sensibly saying the Papandreou government should default.

As a result, Chapman said affected banks "are very unhappy with Norway, and I think that (and pulling out of Libya) was the basis for the attack," adding:

Breivik "at the island was probably there to kill (Labour Party) prime minister (Jens Stoltenberg) who (wasn't at Utoeya island) for some reason. The message to Norway is do what we tell you to do or we'll put a bomb in the middle of your city (as) payback from the banks...."

On July 25, another article headlined, "Anders Behring Breivik: Manufacturing a Patsy?" noting two different Facebook profiles (before and after July 22) describing him, saying:

"The first one in Norwegian was deleted minutes after (his) identity became public." A doctored English version replaced it, changing his profile to fit the crime.

His stated "interest in Winston Churchill and (anti-Nazi resistance) leader Max Manus" was deleted. In addition, his Internet postings "characterize himself not as a populist Christian conservative, but as a neo-con" pro-Israeli supporter.

Moreover, the Council of Conservative Citizens said none of his postings "are extreme or hint at a desire to commit violence." He did say he supported "Hans Rustad, a former Jewish left-winger turned neo-conservative."

The doctored Facebook profile turned a "socially liberal, pro-Israeli neo-con (into) a Christian conservative, white supremacist." Friends also contradict the new Breivik characterization, Ulav Andersson telling Russia Today, it's not at all the man he knows, saying his racial antipathies were expressed in "mundane" mild terms, adding:

He wasn't opinionated, and "never came across as some kind of religious fanatic or anything." In fact, he had no defined ideology.

As the old US "To Tell the Truth" TV show used to ask: "Will the real Anders Breivik please stand up?" In fact, he did, but the tape showing it was deleted, replaced by a doctored one, conforming to how Western powers wish to portray him. Perhaps his manifesto was then altered.

Webster Tarpley also claimed a false flag in his July 24 article, accessed through the following link:

http://tarpley.net/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/

He cites the following:

On Friday, a "special (anti-terrorist) police unit had conducted drills or exercises near" Oslo's opera house downtown when the bombing occurred. Advance information about it was concealed.

In 2010, the same unit carried out live bomb detonation drills, similar to what happened on July 22. Notably, similar coincidental or earlier practice exercises often precede or coincide with real attacks, raising obvious false flag suspicions.

US intelligence agencies recruited Norwegian police, (including Oslo's former anti-terror head) for SIMAS Surveillance Detection Units (SDU), "operating outside of" Norwegian government control.

In fact, run out of US embassies, SIMAS surveillance and spying occurs worldwide. According to Norway's Justice Minister Knut Storberget and Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store, "We never knew about it." Secretary of State Clinton lied, saying they were told.

Washington wants to derail Palestinian independence and de jure UN membership, complicit with Israel, perhaps by any means, including intimidation and mass murder.

Also as payback for Norway's planned ending its anti-Gaddafi coalition participation, a warning perhaps not to do it.

Notably, several eyewitnesses saw two shooters. As in similar past cases, "there is credible to overwhelming evidence that (alleged suspects) could not have acted alone."

The Norwegian newpaper Verdens Gang (VG) said:

"Several of the youths who were at (Utoeya) told VG that they are convinced that there must have been more than one perpetrator. Marius Helander Roset believes the same thing," saying:

"I am sure that there was shooting from two different places on the island at the same time."

"Young people interviewed by VG describe an additional perpetrator - who was not wearing a police uniform. (He) had thick dark hair and a Nordic appearance. He had a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back. I believe that there were two people who were shooting, says Alexander Stavdal."

On July 23, Oslo police said several shooters could have been involved. An investigation into both incidents is ongoing.

On July 25, The Views and News from Norway web site (newsinenglish.no) reported that "(s)urvivors of the massacre (said) the shooting went on for nearly two hours," police taking 90 minutes to arrive.

On July 25, the Pakistan News Service (Pak Tribune) headlined, "Analyzing the Oslo attacks: terrorist event or false flag distraction?" saying:

The timing may not be coincidental, occurring "(a)s the sociopolitical tensions in Europe rise, the euro falls, and the debt crisis looms. (It's) another reminder of the ever-present al Qaeda (or in this case neocon Christian fundamentalist) bogeymen (able) to unite the people against an outside enemy."

The Friday attack also occurred after Israeli spies were found operating covertly in New Zealand, stealing identities for "sensitive" missions "like assassinations." In fact, Mossad operates throughout the Middle East, as well as in much of Europe, the Americas, Africa, and Asia, spying and engaging in other covert activities.

Pak Tribune speculated whether foreign intelligence was involved in Friday's attack "to draw attention away from the Israeli operations abroad, the looming financial crisis, the (planned and imposed) austerity measures, massive swindling of public funds, and the crumbling support for" America's multiple imperial wars.

Whatever final conclusions are drawn, Friday's attacks provide "an apt distraction and talking point for those seeking to continue the farcical war on terror."

A Final Comment

A previous article discussed Operation GLADIO (Latin for double-edged sword), NATO's Secret Armies, accessed through the following link:

http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2010/09/natos-secret-armies.html

Run by European secret services, collaborating with NATO, the CIA, as well as Britain's MI6 and Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), it targeted the political left to prevent it from gaining power. Its clandestine missions included bombings, assassinations, and other belligerent acts, believed still ongoing.

Targeting Oslo on Friday resembled GLADIO, this time perhaps a CIA, Mossad, MI6 or joint operation, using Breivik for plausible deniability as a previous article noted.

It wasn't the first time stooges took a fall for others. Notable previous ones included Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, the alleged 9/11 perpetrators, and numerous other falsely charged victims - never the treacherous Machiavellian villains.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-progressive-news-hour/.

http://www.rense.com/general94/oslo2.htm

[Joe King]

I think it's possible that ABB was BOTH a (MK Ultra-brainwashed?) Mossad agent AND, somewhere in there, a Norwegian with feelings of loyalty to ordinary Norwegians who are being screwed over by the White-genocidalist pro-mass-immigrationist Labour Party elite (Norwegians who are traitors to ordinary Norwegians).

If ABB viewed Jews as Whites, as he seems to, he may not have seen any conflict between acting as an agent to bomb a gov't building Send a Message to Norway to support Israel against Palestinians AND to shoot a bunch of the ruling classes' kids to get the ruling class to stop importing Muslims into Norway. From one point of view (not mine) there's no contradiction.You think whatever it is that you need to think in order to make everything fit nicely into your narrow view of the World.
Sometimes when heinous crimes are commited, the "why" only makes sense to the perp.

[Awoke]

Oh, are you going to troll her in this thread too now?

[sirgonzo420]

I'm just glad fred/quantum/etc is still around.


:)

[osoab]

You think whatever it is that you need to think in order to make everything fit nicely into your narrow view of the World.
Sometimes when heinous crimes are commited, the "why" only makes sense to the perp.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Where is the crater in the street due to the car bomb. I think that is what they are calling it now.

How in the hell do they have "aerial photos" of him shooting kids, and it took cops over 90 minutes to respond?

Per AJ, his facebook page was altered after the fact to take out his masonic affiliations.


I think some may want to poopoo the whole idea that there maybe more behind the story that what is being shown.
Cognitive Dissonance can be a bitch.

[Dogman]

I'm just glad fred/quantum/etc is still around.


:)

One does wonder , what happened to all the "star" posters from the "41" site.

[Joe King]

This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Where is the crater in the street due to the car bomb. I think that is what they are calling it now.

How in the hell do they have "aerial photos" of him shooting kids, and it took cops over 90 minutes to respond?

Per AJ, his facebook page was altered after the fact to take out his masonic affiliations.


I think some may want to poopoo the whole idea that there maybe more behind the story that what is being shown.
Cognitive Dissonance can be a bitch.
If you'll go back and look, I already said that I didn't think he acted alone and I have no doubt that if there was no crater that it couldn't have been that big a bomb in a car.....if it was in a car.


When it comes to anything gov, I've always been skeptical first.

[keehah]

Norway’s monster and THE question (http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/07/norway%E2%80%99s-monster-and-the-question/)
by Alan Hart / My Catbird Seat - 26. Jul, 2011

It’s bad enough that Zionist propaganda has prevented a cure for the Israel-Palestine conflict, but if now that same propaganda is inspiring Europeans in Europe to slaughter their own, the future is very, very frightening.

How much was the mind of Anders Behring Breivik conditioned and warped by Zionist propaganda as peddled with the assistance of Christian fundamentalism by much of the Western mainstream media and many web sites?

In his summary of what the monster had stated behind closed doors in court, Judge Heger said he had argued that he wanted to create “the greatest loss possible to Norway’s governing Labour Party”, which he accused of failing the country on immigration and opening the door to the “Muslim colonization” of Norway and all of Europe.There could not have been a more effective way of inflicting at a single stroke a great loss than gunning down many members of the Norwegian Labour Party’s youth wing, the Workers Youth League (AUF), which was assembled on Utoya Island.

Two days before the massacre there, and as Gilad Atzmon has researched and noted (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/24/was-the-massacre-in-norway-a-reaction-to-bds-israeli-boycott/), the AUF’s leader, Eskil Pedersen, gave an interview to Dagbladet, Norway’s second largest tabloid newspaper. In it he said: “The AUF has long been a supporter of an international boycott of Israel but the decision of the last Congress demands that Norway impose a unilateral economic embargo on the country… I acknowledge this is a drastic measure but I think it gives a clear indication that, quite simply, we are tired of Israel’s behaviour.” (My own view is that behind closed doors all Western governments, including the one in Washington D.C. in the person of President Obama, are tired of Israel’s behaviour).

There are two things we know for sure.

One is that Breivik is fanatically anti Islam and pro Zionism.

The other is that Zionism’s propaganda machine has been set to work at full speed, day and night, eight days and nights a week, to demonize, discredit and destroy all who are calling and campaigning for Israel to be boycotted.

From the obscenity of the Nazi holocaust to the present, Zionism’s success in selling its propaganda lies as truth is the reason why the search for peace based on an acceptable amount of justice for the Palestinians has been, and remains, a mission impossible.

I describe the Israel-Palestine conflict as the cancer at the heart of international affairs which threatens to consume us all. It’s bad enough that Zionist propaganda has prevented a cure for it, but if now that same propaganda is inspiring Europeans in Europe to slaughter their own, the future is very, very frightening.

I don’t know the answer to my headline question but I think investigators in Norway, prosecutors and psychiatrists, must dig deep enough to find it.

[keehah]

Glenn Beck, the rightwing US broadcaster and Tea Party favourite, has compared those who were massacred on the Norwegian island of Utøya to the Nazi party's youth wing.

"There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler youth, or, whatever. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics. Disturbing," said Beck on his syndicated radio show.

Glenn Beck ‘Indoctrinates’ Kids With His Upcoming Tea Party Summer Camp (http://schuylerthorpe.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/glenn-beck-indoctrinates-kids-with-his-upcoming-tea-party-summer-camp/)

June 27, 2011

...Tampa Liberty School is a weeklong day camp for kids ages 8 to 12. It’s run by the Tampa 912 Project, a Tea Party–affiliated group aligned with Glenn Beck’s 9/12 Project. The camp itself is organized by conservative writer Jeff Lukens, and will “impart the principles of liberty as discovered and implemented by the founders of our country.”

According to the St. Petersburg Times, those principles include “I believe in God,” and “I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.”

Why a summer camp?

Today’s public schools are too politically correct, says Lukens, and kids need to learn the truth in their extra-curricular activities. Lukens was inspired by a similar camp in Kentucky, and vacation bible schools. But though Liberty School is being held in a Christian school, it isn’t all about faith. “We want to introduce a younger generation to economics and history, but in a fun way,” says Tampa 912 Project chairwoman Karen Jaroch.

What other principles will Liberty School impart?

“Timeless and incorruptible” ones, gleaned from the organizers’ understanding of the Constitution and other writings of the founding fathers.

[mick silver]

Possible Israeli Connection to Oslo Attacks ... http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/25/possible-israeli-connection-to-oslo-attacks/

[mick silver]

Massacre in Norway– More About the Jewish Right Wing Connection ... http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/25/gilad-atzmon-massacre-in-norway-more-about-the-jewish-right-wing-connection/

[JohnQPublic]

Massacre in Norway– More About the Jewish Right Wing Connection ... http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/25/gilad-atzmon-massacre-in-norway-more-about-the-jewish-right-wing-connection/

Comment:

Ken Rechtstein July 25, 2011 - 8:21 am (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/24/was-the-massacre-in-norway-a-reaction-to-bds-israeli-boycott/comment-page-1/#comment-251627)


The savage and premeditated attack on innocent civilians in Norway including the PM and govt officials was intended to “humble” the Social-democratic ruling party, wipe out a whole young generation of would be politician, opponents of the Zion Talmudic Mafia Dons and infuse fear in the Norwegian Population.

To do that the Mafia Dons chose as front man Anders Behring Breivik on the recommendation of Hans Rustad, a Zionist Jew, trained as journalist, whose web site, http://www.document.no (http://www.document.no/), is a magnet intended to attract psychos-Islamophobes-xenophobes, the like of Anders Behring B.

In the winter 2009-2010 Behring Breivik attended a conference held for “document.no” followers and think-alike by the First Secretary of the Israeli Embassy in Oslo. Anders Behring Breivik came then with concrete propositions about how to proceed, in order to strengthen the support to Israel in Norway, create more animosity against the Muslim Immigrants and silence critics of the Rogue State of Zionlandia in Norway.

Anders Behring Breivik was deemed, by the Israeli psychos and their Sayanim in Norway, as having having the RIGHT psychological PROFILE and the looks to make him worth investing in.
His handlers met with him in GB and Denmark to further the mutual cooperation and implement plans of action.

With the incident of the Mohamed caricatures in Denmark, involving the Zion Talmudic Flemming Rose… very good friend of Daniel Pipes, the Zios managed to provoke the right incident to create a rift between a part of the ethnic Danes and the Muslim Immigrant population, banking on the profile and inability to fathom what was going on of ANDERS FOGH RASMUSSEN, at that time PM, now promoted to the lucrative-murderous job of NATO General Secretary.

In Norway, the Zion Talmudic Mafia could not pull the same trick, they opted for the infiltration of the Norwegian Institutions and preventing young Norwegians and new immigrants with Muslim sounding names to get access to University studies and this way, efficiently barring them from reaching higher posts as public servants in the Norwegian administration.

They put their AGENTS to work as interpreter in the Institutions that grant loans to students (I have the names and the documentary evidence) who used the internal IT network to manipulate info, stall and hide folders. Those very same agents used their position to befriend Iranians, specially females in order to turn them against their own govt.

They too did set up and gather info about students with Muslim names, to use later as blackmail should it be at one time or other necessary.
Such is the extent of the infiltration of Israel that is actually going on in Scandinavia, targeting to dominate the Media and infiltrate the Police services and Military Intel.

[keehah]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/24/us-norway-attack-farmer-idUSTRE76N2YA20110724

"He said he was a farmer," said Trine Stetten, a 22-year-old hairdresser, who had stood next to Anders Behring Breivik while her partner in a local salon clipped his hair a month or so ago.

"He had a PC bag with him and nice clothes ... we thought it was really weird that he was a farmer," she said...

In the small town, he brushed elbows with locals, including at a pub called the Cuckoo's Nest frequented by soldiers from the elite Telemark Battalion whose 2,000-strong base is in Rena.

Breivik said in a May 12 entry in his Internet-posted diary: "It's quite ironic being situated practically on top of the largest military base in the country. It would have saved me a lot of hassle if I could just 'borrow' a cup of sugar and 3kg of C4 (explosive) from my dear neighbor."

People in Rena said he could not help but stand out.

"He asked for a receipt and paid with cards -- nobody here asks for a receipt for a beer, and we just throw them away," said Hanne Skavern, 20, who works at the pub and some days at a petrol station.

[JohnQPublic]

...Where is the crater in the street due to the car bomb. I think that is what they are calling it now.

...

In this article:

"Global Jihad" group says it's behind Oslo blast, then retracts claim (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20082156-10391695.html)

Before updating it, the google entry states (note the google entry does not reflect the updating):
<LI class=g>"Global Jihad" group says it's behind Oslo blast (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20082156-10391695.html)

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CBS News - Thomas Winje (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=N&tbm=nws&q=author:%22Thomas+Winje%22&ei=gUwvTv-2DeLt0gGtuf3HAQ&ved=0CCQQ1AcoADAA) - 4 days ago
This Norway bomb was a significant blast but mostly glass and debris damage. There was no big crater immediately evident. by brianbwb2015 July 23, ...




Once it was not a jihadist blast, the mention of the nonexistant crater was removed. Is this a clue?


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[MAGNES]

Blond haired, blue eyed nazi. Probably offspring of the boys from Brazil. Mengele definitely had a hand in this. Oh yeah and machine guns. This story has it all.

He hated the Nazi's and Germans, this guy has been totally
deconstructed and outed online. His manifesto has been taken
apart by many. Like I said earlier, he is a total NeoCon, when
you approach it from this angle, he is a total Pro Zionist, all else
is noise. Like the head NeoCons. He is being used to smear almost
everyone. False flag conservatives who came from marxism/bolshevism/zionism.

Totally applies here.
The Zionist Elephant In The Room (http://gold-silver.us/showthread.php?23047-The-Zionist-Elephant-In-The-Room)

The far right parties in Europe are gaining power in Parliaments.

This is designed or being used to counter them.

This was already done in the USA with attacks on patriots, the gov
picked the fights, there was some purpose to their madness.
They destroyed militias who were aware and speaking out against
the NWO and Jews. They are trying to smear all conservatives.
Case after Case now. Even becoming blatant and comical with their
smearing.

This whole thing stinks worse by the hour, all kinds of real revelations.

The Police are the ones that took the pictures of him killing people.
On an Island where politicians were present with no security.

Some speculation.
Many online have mentioned Gladio, McVeigh was a Mason that
went to the grave with the truth, why ? Why not out the government,
FBI was giving the orders to bomb.

[ximmy]

Anders Behring Breivik... Satanic Super-soldier for the NWO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z7aUqbgiLE