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Ponce
26th July 2011, 08:40 AM
Nothing that I can say will express my real anger.....

Firs angry post of the day..........good morning to one and all.
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California "Dream Act" approved for illegal immigrants.

By Alex Dobuzinskis

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law on Monday a bill allowing illegal immigrants to receive privately funded scholarships to attend the state's public colleges and universities.

The bill, dubbed the California Dream Act, passed the state Legislature earlier this month and aims at helping illegal immigrants who earned a diploma after attending at least three years of high school in the state.

Enactment of the California measure came three days after opponents of a similar law in Maryland collected enough signatures to force a state referendum seeking its repeal.

"At the end of the day, if we're going to continue as a powerful, equal-opportunity society, we're going to have to invest in our people," Brown, a Democrat, said at the signing ceremony in the library of a Los Angeles community college.

The California law is named after national legislation in Congress to give young, undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years a pathway to citizenship through college or military service.

The federal bill failed to win passage in December 2010, and its chances have dimmed since a newly elected Republican majority took control of the House of Representatives.

Critics say the California Dream Act gives illegal immigrants a false promise because their status will not change after graduating from college and they will remain unable to find legal employment. Former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, vetoed an earlier version of the bill last year.

But Julian Rivera, 20, a student at the University of California at Berkeley who entered the United States illegally with his parents at age 12 from Mexico, said the measure could make it easier those like him to afford to stay in school.

"It doesn't matter where you come from, it doesn't matter what your background is, it just matters that you have passion for something and you want to do it," he said. "This is a country that has given us that freedom."

OPPOSING "THE DREAM"

Patrick McDonough, a Republican member of the Maryland House of Delegates who helped lead the petition drive for the repeal initiative there, said U.S. citizens who are struggling to pay for college should not have to compete with illegal immigrants for scarce financial resources.

"People would say, 'Why should we, when we're having tough economic times ourselves, pay for someone who is here illegally?'" he said.

The new California law is fairly limited in scope, making undocumented students who qualify eligible for private scholarships. A separate bill under consideration in the legislature would allow illegal immigrants to seek publicly funded scholarships as well.

State law already allows illegal immigrants who qualify for admission to a four-year state university to pay in-state tuition rather than the more expensive out-of-state tuition rate. But four-year institutions are still beyond reach for many undocumented students without financial aid.

Twelve other states also grant in-state tuition eligibility to illegal immigrants based on attendance and graduation from a state high school, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, South Carolina and Indiana have laws barring illegal immigrants from in-state tuition benefits.

Passage of legislation in California and Maryland to extend private scholarships to illegal immigrants comes as a number of states, led by Arizona, have taken steps to crack down on the undocumented.

"You're going to see the red states go more the Arizona approach and blue states the California Dream Act approach," said John Skrentny, director of the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies at University of California, San Diego.

http://news.yahoo.com/california-dream-act-approved-illegal-immigrants-013617230.html

mick silver
26th July 2011, 08:43 AM
at some point in time they will not be able to take from the working people and give others every thing . i know some people who are working two jobs just so there kids can go to a school . and there getting tired of not getting any help . some day this stuff will come to a end

jimswift
26th July 2011, 09:14 AM
some day this stuff will come to a end

you would think, but this appears to be the longest slow-mo train wreck ever.

drafter
26th July 2011, 10:29 AM
California is done. Short of falling into the ocean, nothing can be done at this point to reverse whats been done to that state. Might as well just cede it to Mexico and move towards trying to prevent the spread to the surrounding states. Unfortunately I don't see the spread being stopped.

Jewish parasites have weakened the host to the point that the mexican cancer is being allowed to spread like wildfire. Face it, white european culture is pretty much done for in "America". What was once the "melting pot" of "America" is fast becoming a pot of refried beans with some kosher hot dog slices thrown in for flavor.

ximmy
26th July 2011, 10:32 AM
Brown further stated, "As long as the cost doesn't affect me or my friends, and the mexicans live far away from me, I have no problem spending california citizen tax dollars on them..."

madfranks
26th July 2011, 11:29 AM
The California law is named after national legislation in Congress to give young, undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years a pathway to citizenship through college

So what's to stop a guy who just smuggled across the border last month from saying he's been here for at least five years? I mean, they are undocumented, so couldn't they say they've been here as long as they wanted?

Ponce
26th July 2011, 11:32 AM
That was what a lady working for a "friend" of mine did......she told them that she has been here for seven years but it was only for six months......she got her green card......she even bought a house with what she was making.

willie pete
26th July 2011, 12:10 PM
Moon-Beam is a nut-job for sure, but hell, the state legislature passed it....so they're all nut-jobs :D ...I just don't understand how it can be justified, I would think it'd come down to simple math; you have too much going out than what's coming in, and for this "dream act" bill, I see this as aiding and abedding a fugitive, after all, the ones in question and who the bill is DIRECTED at, ARE breaking the law; the state IS helping fugitives of the law ::)

ximmy
26th July 2011, 12:20 PM
Moon-Beam is a nut-job for sure, but hell, the state legislature passed it....so they're all nut-jobs :D ...I just don't understand how it can be justified, I would think it'd come down to simple math; you have too much going out than what's coming in, and for this "dream act" bill, I see this as aiding and abedding a fugitive, after all, the ones in question and who the bill is DIRECTED at, ARE breaking the law; the state IS helping fugitives of the law ::)

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