Barack Obama collapsing the economy on purpose to fulfill Cloward-Piven strategy?

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Combine class warfare, demonizing the rich, getting as many people onto the welfare rolls as possible, and pushing the economic system to collapse and you have a flawless formula for Cloward-Piven 2.0 -- and a vehicle that ensures Obama remains in power.


Cloward-Piven is a much talked-about strategy proposed in the mid-1960's by two Columbia University sociology professors named Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. The Cloward-Piven approach was sometimes referred to as the "crisis strategy," which they believed were a means to "end poverty."


The premise of the Cloward-Piven collective/anti-capitalist (http://www.scribd.com/doc/61004896/The-Cloward-Piven-Strategy-The-Weight-of-the-Poor-A-Strategy-to-End-Poverty-by-Cloward-Piven-pub-2-May-1966) gospel decried "individual mobility and achievement," celebrated organized labor, fostered the principle that "if each finally found himself in the same relative economic relationship to his fellows ... all were infinitely better off."


The duo taught that if you flooded the welfare rolls and bankrupted the cities and ultimately the nation, it would foster economic collapse, which would lead to political turmoil so severe that socialism would be accepted as a fix to an out-of-control set of circumstances.
The idea was that if people were starving and the only way to eat was to accept government cheese, rather than starve, the masses would agree to what they would otherwise reject. In essence, for the socialist-minded, the Cloward-Piven strategy is a simple formula that makes perfect sense; the radical husband-and-wife team had Saul Alinsky as their muse, and they went on to teach his social action principles to a cadre of socialist-leaning community organizers, one of whom was Barack Obama.


As the debt crisis continues to worsen, President Obama stands idly by an inferno with his arms crossed, shaking his head, and doing nothing other than kinking the fire hose and closing the spigot. Spectator Obama is complaining that the structure of the American economy is engulfed in flames while accusing the Congress, which is trying desperately to douse the fire, of doing nothing about the problem.


Although speculative, if the Cloward-Piven strategy is the basis of the left's game plan, spearheaded by Alinsky devotee Barack Obama, it certainly explains the President's inaction and detached attitude.


The greatest nation in the history of the world is teetering on the brink of a catastrophic economic crisis. America was pushed to this point by a rapidly-expanding national debt and a stressed-out entitlement system; in the center of this crisis is the President, who insists on expanding it even further, all in the name "fairness" and "social justice."
As a default date nears and the President threatens seniors that there's a chance they may not receive their Social Security checks, it has been revealed that the federal government disperses a stunning 80 million (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/25/geithner_we_write_80_million_checks_a_month.html) checks a month, which means that about a third of the US adult population could be receiving some sort of entitlement.



Since the 1960's when Cloward-Piven presented a socialistic guideline to usher in the type of evenhandedness Obama lauds, America's entitlement rolls have swelled from eight million to 80 million. If the nation's ability to disperse handouts were ever disrupted, it's not hard to see how chaos would erupt should an angry army of millions demand what Cloward-Piven called "the right to income."


Couple the threat of dried-up funds for food stamps, Social Security, unemployment benefits and the like with the Obama administration's vigorous campaign to turn a tiny upper class of big earners into the enemy, and you have the Cloward-Piven recipe for anarchy and complete collapse.


If the worst happened, Saul Alinsky's biggest fan, whose poll numbers continue to plummet, could use mayhem in the streets to remain firmly ensconced in the White House. Alinsky taught his students a basic principle that community organizer Barack Obama learned well: "Never let a good crisis go to waste." Fiscal disintegration coupled with lawlessness would deliver the type of Cloward-Piven/Saul Alinsky trifecta that progressives have worked toward and waited decades for.


Barack Obama has spent the last 1,000+ days defying reason and choosing policy directions that seem nonsensical to the rational mind: a failed stimulus package; ObamaCare; growing the deficit to astronomical proportions; and cynically portraying wealth as immoral. Now, when cuts are the only fix to a budgetary balloon about to burst, a seemingly illogical President digs in and demands additional phantom dollars to spend on a system that is collapsing under the weight of unmanageable debt.



It's hard to figure out the method to the President's obvious madness, because based on Obama's approval rating, if the election were held today even Pee Wee Herman could replace Obama behind the Resolute Desk. Maybe the "method" isn't "mad" in the least!
Could it be that Barack Obama is purposely pressuring the system in a premeditated effort to foster a major crisis? One that would demand extraordinary measures to control by a President who could then mete out basic sustenance to Americans who would agree to anything to regain some sense of normalcy. And in the process successfully usher in the "socially just" system Barack Obama has dreamed of all his life.



While radical Alinsky/Cloward-Piven disciple Obama appears to be clueless and detached, it may be a ploy; he may actually be focused and engaged as he purposely pursues an Alinsky-inspired course of action to force the system to "live up" to its own rules. Obama's ultimate goal of once-and-for-all discrediting the capitalist system and replacing America's foundational economic and social tenets with a broad-based socialist one headed by progressive Marxists like himself, is actually within reach.


As Obama pushes and prods the US economy and instigates social unrest, it could be that he believes a Cloward-Piven-style utopia resides just beyond the horizon -- a progressive panacea where an election-free, classless society, thankful for a simple crust of bread, looks to Barack Obama to keep the peace by remaining in power indefinitely.



Therefore, unless all of America, regardless of class or political persuasion, pays attention to the potential for a bleak future that lies ahead and realizes the President's non-plan could be itself an actual calculated plan, the resulting consequences will affect everyone, as Barack Obama transforms a once great nation into Cloward and Piven's idea of paradise.


http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/cloward-piven_paradise_now.html

[iOWNme]

Cloward/Piven = MARXISM.

Everything is class struggle to a Communist. ANY Politician trying to use class warfare is a MARXIST.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Cloward Piven is a marxist STRATEGY.

Overload the system. Make everyone dependent on the government. Destroy productivity by rewarding 'helplessness'.

I think Cloward Piven is a strategy that can destroy any system, and it is a name for a particular way of doing it. I think this strategy is what destroyed the Soviet Union. The Communists had a slogan: "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." The Cloward Piven mentality encouraged Soviet citizens to 'game the system'. By maximizing 'personal profit'. That is, contribute as little as possible, and make the state live up to its ideal of looking after the welfare of its citizens. So, people quit producing, and started living off the largesse of the state. Well, this is unsustainable. Consuming more than is produced can only be done until resources are depleted--and the system collapses. That is what happened to the Soviet Union. That is what is happening here in the USA. It is the same dynamic. You can call it Cloward Piven or any other name. I call it the 'something for nothing' strategy. If somebody promises you something for nothing, take it. Then see how long you can keep collecting something for nothing. In the USA it's a deliberate policy of the government. It has a perticular appeal to slaves. Free people understand this dynamic and don't go along. Obama's success with it is a testament to how enslaved Americans are.


Hatha

[Jewboo]

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/piven.jpg


Piven was born in Calgary, Alberta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary,_Alberta), Canada (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada),[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fox_Piven#cite_note-Bio-2) of Russian Jewish immigrant parents,[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fox_Piven#cite_note-3) Rachel (née Paperny) and Albert Fox, a storekeeper.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fox_Piven#cite_note-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fox_Piven#cite_note-5) Piven immigrated to the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) when she was one and was naturalized (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalized) as a United States Citizen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Citizen) in 1953.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fox_Piven#cite_note-Bio-2) She was raised in Jackson Heights, Queens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Heights,_Queens), New York.

[mamboni]

Another Jew intellectual destroyer of civilization. Their strategy achieves equality of socioeconomic status for everyone (except they the Bolshevik Jews on top) that is true. But they refuse to acknowledge the other result, that everyone ends up far worse off. These people are cancerous anarchists that should be rooted out and eliminated before they can spread their poison.

[Cebu_4_2]

Obama is only a puppet, even if he wanted to do something he couldn't.

[midnight rambler]

Obama is only a puppet, even if he wanted to do something he couldn't.

Yeah, 'cause Clown #2 (Uncle Joe "I'm a Zionist!" Biden) is waiting in the wings should the call come. Like it did for Lyndon.

The wink (with a smile) -

http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/pics/thewink.jpg

[mamboni]

Yeah, 'cause Clown #2 (Uncle Joe "I'm a Zionist!" Biden) is waiting in the wings should the call come. Like it did for Lyndon.

The wink (with a smile) -

http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/pics/thewink.jpg

Johnson's maternal grandparents were Jews, yet we never were told of this at the time. Yet Kennedy's Roman Catholicism was widely trumpeted in the mass media. Me thinks the white prostestant majority of the day, concerned to a degree with the prospect of a Roman Catholic president, would have been even more non-plussed at the prospect of a Jewish one.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Cloward and Piven just articulated an idea that has always appealed to slaves. It wouldn't work if there weren't so many slaves who believe it will work. Obama and his NWO handlers wouldn't be able to crash the system if more people valued their freedom. Mamboni pointed out above that the goal is to reach socioeconomic equality for everyone. When everybody is a slave, isn't that socioeconomic equality for everybody? The real issue is Do slaves want freedom? Or do they want everyone else to be a slave just like them? Cloward and Piven ignored the first question and assumed the second was true. No shortage of politicians who agree with them.


Hatha

[Shami-Amourae]

If you read the Cloward-Piven strategy on Wikipedia is says the end goal is a guaranteed "mincome" or minimum income.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy


The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cloward) and Frances Fox Piven (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Fox_Piven) that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_welfare_state) in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaranteed_minimum_income) and thus an end to poverty". Cloward and Piven were a married couple who were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_School_of_Social_Work). The strategy was formulated in a May 1966 article in liberal[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy#cite_note-1) magazine The Nation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nation) titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy#cite_note-the_weight-2)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYMkN-1HAmA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48S7tXVK378

The establishment is now floating the idea around of the mincome. The reason why I think it's important to bring this up is because this could be a sign from TPTB that the end is neigh and the real collapse is approaching.

[madfranks]

Is her name really Krystal Ball? And she believes that we could eliminate poverty by the stroke of a pen? I'm not sure what's more retarded, her name or her plan.

[midnight rambler]

Or do they want everyone else to be a slave just like them? Cloward and Piven ignored the first question and assumed the second was true. No shortage of politicians who agree with them.



aka 'the crab mentality' whereby crabs in a bucket pull down any other crabs that attempt to escape the bucket

[Hatha Sunahara]

The Cloward Piven strategy tries to solve a problem by creating enough disorder to crash the whole system and to replace it with a different system in the midst of crisis. They think that a guaranteed minimum income would end poverty. I am not a scholar on Cloward Piven, but I doubt that they understand the nature and causes of poverty. My sense is that like their hero, Saul Alinsky, they were political opportunists.

We could look at American history to understand the nature and cause of poverty. Benjamin Frankilin put his finger on the reason why poverty exists. It's the money system.

http://www.no-debts.com/anti-federalist/files/ownmoney.txt


How America created its own money in 1750

Benjamin Franklin tells what made New England prosperous
____________________________

Colonies were more prosperous than the home country

Before the Declaration of Independence (1776) and the war that
followed, the colonized part of what is today the United States of
America was a Crown possession of England. It was called New England,
and was made up of 13 colonies, which became the original states of the
great Republic.

In 1750, this New England was very prosperous. Benjamin Franklin wrote:
"There was abundance in the Colonies, and peace reigned on every
border. It was difficult, even impossible, to find a happier and more
prosperous nation on all the surface of the globe. Comfort prevailed in
every home. The people, in general, kept the highest moral standards,
and education was widely spread."

When Franklin went over to England to represent the interests of the
Colonies, he saw a completely different situation; the working
population of the home country was gnawed by hunger and plagued by
inescapable poverty. "The streets are covered with beggars and tramps,"
he wrote. He asked his English friends how England, with all its
wealth, could have so much poverty among its working classes. His
friends replied that England was prey to a terrible condition; it had
too many workers! The rich said they were already overburdened with
taxes, and could not pay more to relieve the needs and poverty of this
great mass of workers. Several rich Englishmen of that time actually
believed what economist Thomas Malthus later wrote, that wars and
epidemic disease were necessary to rid the country from "manpower
surpluses."

People in London asked Franklin how the American Colonies managed to
collect enough money to support their poorhouses, and how they could
overcome this plague of unemployment and pauperism.

Thanks to debt-free money issued by the colonial governments

Franklin replied; "We have no poorhouses in the Colonies, and if we had
some, there would be no one to put in them, since in the Colonies there
is not a single unemployed person, not a beggar nor a tramp."

His friends could not believe their ears, or understand how this could
be. They knew when the English poorhouses and jails became too
cluttered, England shipped the wretched inmates like cattle, to be
dumped on the quays of the Colonies if they survived the filth and
privations of the sea voyage. (In those days English debtors went to
jail if they could not pay their debts, and few escaped, since in jail
they could not earn money.)

Franklin's acquaintences, in view of all this, asked him how he could
explain the remarkable prosperity of the New England Colonies.

Franklin told them: "Why, that is simple! In the Colonies, we issue our
own paper money. It's called 'Colonial Scrip.' We issue it to pay the
government's approved expenses and charities. We make sure it's issued
in proper proportion to make the goods pass easily from the producers
to the consumers. In other words, we make sure there is always adequate
money in circulation for the needs of the economy.

"In this manner, by creating ourselves our own paper money, we control
its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay, to anyone. You
see, a legitimate government can both spend and lend money into
circulation, while banks can only lend significant amounts of their
promissory bank notes, for they can neither give away nor spend but a
tiny fraction of the money the people need. Thus, when your bankers
here in England place money in circulation, there is always a debt
principal to be returned and usury to be paid. The result is that you
have always too little credit in circulation to give the workers full
employment. You do not have too many workers, you have too little money
in circulation, and that which circulates, all bears the endless burden
of unpayable debt and usury."

English Bankers impose poverty on the Colonies

Franklin should not have been so free with his advice, which soon came
to the attention of the powerful English Bankers. They quickly used
their influence to have the British Parliament pass a law that
prohibited the Colonies from using their Colonial Scrip money. The new
law ordered them to use only credit redeemable in gold and silver coins
that were provided in insufficient quantity by the banks of England.
And so began in America the plague of debt-based money, which has ever
since brought as many hardships to the American people, as it has to
Europeans.

The first law regulating Colonial money was passed by the British
Parliament 1751, then expanded by a more restrictive law in 1763.

Franklin reported that only one year after implementation of the
prohibition on Colonial Scrip, the streets of the Colonies were filled
with unemployed and beggars, just like those he had seen in England,
because there was not enough money to pay for their goods and work. The
English Banker's new laws had reduced the circulating medium by half.

Franklin added that this was "the original and true cause of the
American Revolution;" and not the tax on tea or the Stamp Act, as has
been taught our children for generations in "history" books. The
Financiers (bankers) of every generation manage to have removed from
school books any information that can throw light on their own schemes
and fraudulent actions that protect their power over the people.

Franklin, one of the chief architects of American independence, put it
clearly: "The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea
and other matters had it not been for the poverty created by the bad
influence of the English Bankers on the Parliament, which has caused in
the Colonies hatred of England and the Revolutionary War."

Other great statesmen of that era, including Thomas Jefferson, John
Adams, and George Jackson confirmed this point of view held by
Franklin; and later by Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren. Abraham
Lincoln and John Kennedy both issued sovereign money, James Garfield
tried, and all three died in office.

A remarkably honest English historian, John Twells, speaking of the
money of the Colonies, their Colonial Scrip, wrote: "It was the
monetary system under which America's Colonies flourished to such an
extent that Edmund Burke was able to write about them: 'Nothing in the
history of the world resembles their progress. It was a sound and
beneficial system, and its effects led to the happiness of the people.'
"

John Twells added: "In a bad hour, the British Parliament took away
from America its own scrip money, forbade any further issue of such
bills of credit, these bills ceasing to be legal tender, and ordered
that all taxes should be paid in British coins. Consider now the
consequences: this restriction of the medium of exchange paralyzed all
the industrial energies of the people. Ruin took place in these once
flourishing Colonies; most rigorous distress visited every family and
every business, discontent became desperation, and reached a point, to
use the words of Dr. Johnson, when human nature rises up and asserts
its rights."

Another historical writer, Peter Cooper, expressed himself along the
same lines. After saying how Franklin had explained to members of
Parliament the reason for the prosperity of the Colonies, Cooper wrote:
"After Franklin gave explanations on the true cause of the prosperity
of the Colonies, the Parliament enacted laws forbidding the use of this
money in the payment of taxes. This decree, clearly in the interest of
the British bankers who stood behind the Crown, brought so many
drawbacks and so much poverty to the people that it was the main cause
of the Revolution. The supression of the Colonial money was a much more
important reason for the general uprising than the Tea and Stamp Acts."

DANGER! The Scrip of the Bankers has Taken over America

Today, in America as well as in Europe, we are under the regime of the
Scrip of the Bankers instead of the scrip of the sovereign nations.
Hence the enormous public debts, everlasting interest (usury) charges,
taxes that plunder purchasing power and rob the production of the
people, with the result being more and more consolidation of the
financial dictatorship.

Where shall we start to correct the fraud of the bankers?

The first step in the monetary reform being advocated by more and more
action groups of educated and intelligent people is precisely the
replacement of the banks' debt money by debt-free money issued by the
Constitutionally mandated sovereign government of the nation, the
United States Congress, and elsewhere, the British Parliament, and
similar governments. It is the duty of those governments to serve and
protect their people, not allow financial robber barons to destroy them.

We must end the dictatorship of the moneyed interests!

It will soon become clear to you that we need to abolish the Federal
Reserve Banking System as a privately owned central bank controlled
partly by foreign interests. Check clearing must be taken over by the
U. S. Treasury Department, and the commercial banks of our system must
no longer be permitted to create and issue debt money by fractional
reserve deposit expansion. A debt money system never provides money to
pay interest, so the banks ultimately acquire all the People's property
by foreclosure, as Thomas Jefferson said they would. Learn more. Study
this go-oaktree site until you begin to grasp the essentials of our
money problem. Learn the truth, before it is too late. Find out how you
can help yourself and your nation. Download these flyers and circulate
them via copy machines to friends who do not have Internet access.


The connection between usury and widespread povety is a taboo topic in a world run by the usurers.

My conclusion is that poverty is not an economic problem--but a political one. Politicians want a system that makes people poor. The obvious solution to it is the one that is most politically incorrect for discussion. Cloward Piven is a massive diversion that will intensify disorder and bring no real solution to the problem of poverty. It's a problem of the money system. Welfare is just a band aid. Cloward Piven want to strangle us with band-aids.


Hatha

[keehah]

Is her name really Krystal Ball? And she believes that we could eliminate poverty by the stroke of a pen?

This is insanity! 4min35s-7min30s is the strongest.

Its not even temporary socialism we need but basically temporary communism...normal is over...and if its war we need to act like its war

The Hill, Mar 23, 2020: Krystal Ball: Suspend capitalism NOW, and do not resuscitate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF3fb5i9D6U&t=506s


The Washington Times: The Cloward-Piven strategy (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/15/the-cloward-piven-strategy/)

OP-ED: October 15, 2008

There is plenty blame to go around for the financial crash. Yet, there is a distinct odor of the shadowy Cloward-Piven strategy as the taproot of abusive practices that triggered the crisis. The strategy’s goal is to bring about the fall of capitalism by overloading and undermining government bureaucracy.

Its supporting tactics include flooding government with impossible demands until it slowly cranks to a stop; overloading electoral systems with successive tidal waves of new voters, many of them bogus; shaking down banks, politicians in Congress, and the Department of Housing and Urban Development for affirmative-action borrowing; and, now, pulling down the national financial system by demanding exotic, subprime mortgages for low-income Americans with little hope of repaying their loans. These toxic mortgages are an important source of the foul smell engulfing the entire financial bailout...

The socialist test case for using society’s poor and disadvantaged people as sacrificial “shock troops,” in accordance with the Cloward-Piven strategy, was demonstrated in 1975, when new prospective welfare recipients flooded New York City with payment demands, bankrupting the government. As a consequence, New York state also teetered on the edge of financial collapse when the federal government stepped in with a bailout rescue.