jiffy lube is investigated

[Ponce]

Love it, a must see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1fgyy2yQX8

[mick silver]

one time i had them chance the oil in my driver truck the girl put 20 g of oil in it . i thought they had blow the f motor up . they try to tell me there was nothing wrong with what they had done . so i pull the stick out and show the manger that the oil was running out of the motor . it cost them a few hundred bucks that day . after the oil was removed i went to the dealer and let them clean the fuel system . hell it smoke so bad cars had to pull over behind till the deal clean every thing out

[Ponce]

About "Midas Mufler"........I was asked if I wanted a six months or a two year guarantee on my transmition and I told them six months.........two week later I was in an accident and a friend wanted the transmission.......well, when we took it out we found out that the six months guarantee came with a transmition full of sand.

[Dogman]

Love it, a must see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1fgyy2yQX8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1fgyy2yQX8

[Shorty Harris]

Easy, eliminate all doubt, work on your own shit.

[willie pete]

I don't do all the repairs, BUT I've changed my own oil for YEARS...probably saved thousands of $$$'s, and because I do it myself, it's a LOT cheaper, therefore I change it MUCH more frequently and it Keeps Fresh oil in the car all the time

[mick silver]

that was the first an only time i had some one else change my oil are do any thing for me . but some times you just dont have all the time you would want to be able to dothe stuff you need to do . it was the last time anyone did any work on my cars are trucks

[MNeagle]

I don't do all the repairs, BUT I've changed my own oil for YEARS...probably saved thousands of $$$'s, and because I do it myself, it's a LOT cheaper, therefore I change it MUCH more frequently and it Keeps Fresh oil in the car all the time


Really, MORE frequently?? I was reading some of the 'myths' about cars, i.e. change oil every 3,000 miles. Not so. Check your owner's manual.

Which I did, & it was recommended to change every 7,500 miles. Which saves me a few oil changes a year.

[Twisted Titan]

You can only do that on cars 95 or earlier

cars today are built to keep you out of the engine.

[MNeagle]

dunno abut that, my '04 Honda says otherwise.

[Shorty Harris]

So do I. I routinely do all the maintenance on both My 96 bird & the wifes 05 dodge, and every car & Truck ive ever owned. Including timing chains, intake manifolds, sensors, injectors, transmission mods , etc. Nothing is un-doable.

[skid]

I normally do all my own maintenance, everything. However I have had two times where I went to a quickie lube place.

First time was late 1980's. Drove home, and later got a call from quickie lube to go check my rear diff plug. Yup missing. Rear end failed 6 months later. I was too young and stupid to sue them.

2011 - needed an oil change on my cummins diesel truck. Winter time, 100 clicks from home, and didn't really feel like changing it myself and the quickie lube was right there. Went in for an oil change and got them to change the fuel filter as well. On the drive home I could smell diesel but figured they spilled a bit when they changed the filter. Watched the fuel gauge drop quicker then normal. Got home and sure enough the filter housing was leaking. Diesel everywhere under my hood, a complete mess!

Thought they screwed up the o ring and checked it. The cap wasn't even tight! Screwed it on tight and it stopped leaking. They even forgot to give me a window sticker indicating the next oil change...

Last frikken time ever going to those unqualified clowns. Completed their stupid online survey and wrote a few nasty but legitimate complaints and filled the check box for them to contact me. They never did...

[boogietillyapuke]

I started with Amsoil in the early 80's in hopped up aircooled VW's, then in turbocharged Buicks, eventually migrated to Mobile One, because it was easier to get. They both recommended 1year/25K at the time, Amsoil still does.

I still use Mobile One in both vehicles, small engines, and blended for the 2 strokes. I change it in the vehicles when I feel like it, but no more than once a year.

[willie pete]

Really, MORE frequently?? I was reading some of the 'myths' about cars, i.e. change oil every 3,000 miles. Not so. Check your owner's manual.

Which I did, & it was recommended to change every 7,500 miles. Which saves me a few oil changes a year.

Yep...MORE frequently....in fact...get ready for this one.......I change the oil in my car EVERY 1000 miles :D costs me about $15 to change it (+/-), and that's usually about every month and a half to two months ;) .....I'll bet you're gonna say something about "how" expensive that is...comes out to about $11 a month....$132 a year....take your car into a garage and it's $75-$80 an hour to work on it (around here anyway, I KNOW that from fact, last month I had to have the A/C re-charged with Freon, that was about $125..$45 for the gas, $80 for the labor ::)) ......and screw what the manuel says about changing oil, it's SIMPLE; the oil IS the life-blood of the car, the cleaner it is, the BETTER for the engine....and for $11 a month? .....very small price to pay to INCREASE the longevity of your engine (IF you smoke, which I don't, that's about the cost of a couple packs of Cancerettes or the cost of a cheap bottle of wine...>:D) Bottom Line: I do it myself, I KNOW it's been done right, it's More economical and it extends and promotes the life of the engine.....

[mightymanx]

Exactly the maintenance schedule on cars it to show they meet the standards but wear the vehicle out faster so you buy a new one. Notice how few cars are on the road from the 80's to today but there is still a shitload of older cars on the road from the 70's back.

It really fits the saying they don't build them like they used to. Oil is cheap and easy.

Now for the Diesel crowd the ULSD is destroying your engine Amzoil has lowered there change interval to 15k now due to the corosiveness and super soot that ULSD is known for It also is missing lube for the injection pumps on pre 2007 diesels.

Just like how ethanol blends destroy engines they figured out how to kill the diesel. I have a plavce that still sells the old diesel. but I keep 2 stroke oil to mix in if I have to fillup with ULSD.

[seaurchin1]

You can only do that on cars 95 or earlier

cars today are built to keep you out of the engine.

One good reason for not buying anything newer than '95. We do all of our own maintenance and most repairs.

The very rare time we don't do something ourselves, I will research the problem and tell the garage specifically what is to be done,

and have been known to stand and watch while it's being done. We have never owned a vehicle newer than a '92, and with all the info

available on the internet, it is easy to diagnose and repair.

[palani]

I have used Mobile One since the early '80s and never had any problems with any engine that could be associated with this motor oil. I change oil regularly between 12-14,000 miles. This usually works out to two oil changes a year. I never start using it until an engine has at least 10,000 miles because it is so slick the rings will not seat. As soon as I put it in I usually see a 5% improvement in mileage as well.

I learned about Mobile One when attending a runoff of a crankshaft balancing machine. The crank we were balancing weighted about 300 lbs and was spun on open bearing shells. Using regular motor oil the bearings had to be lubricated between each spin. The weight of the oil migrating to the counterbalances showed enough variation to cause the balancer to fail runoff and it was going to be rejected. The balancing company ran down to the local auto supply shop, picked up a can of Mobile One and then the crank could be spun 30-40 times before needing lubrication. Sold me.

[solid]

I have used Mobile One since the early '80s and never had any problems with any engine that could be associated with this motor oil. I change oil regularly between 12-14,000 miles. This usually works out to two oil changes a year. I never start using it until an engine has at least 10,000 miles because it is so slick the rings will not seat. As soon as I put it in I usually see a 5% improvement in mileage as well.

I learned about Mobile One when attending a runoff of a crankshaft balancing machine. The crank we were balancing weighted about 300 lbs and was spun on open bearing shells. Using regular motor oil the bearings had to be lubricated between each spin. The weight of the oil migrating to the counterbalances showed enough variation to cause the balancer to fail runoff and it was going to be rejected. The balancing company ran down to the local auto supply shop, picked up a can of Mobile One and then the crank could be spun 30-40 times before needing lubrication. Sold me.

I use Mobile One fully synthetic, with K&N oil filters.

Years ago I read a study (Consumer reports I believe), they took two brand new Honda's and drove them both 12,000 miles. One Honda, they used regular oil and changed it every 3000 miles. The second Honda, they used fully synthetic and did not change it at all. After 12K, they tested the engines for wear. The Honda using fully synthetic oil was in better shape than the regular oil one, even though they didn't change the oil at all during the test.

That sold me on fully synthetic oil. I change mine every 5000 miles.

[LuckyStrike]

I haven't watched the vid but jiffy lube should be invesitgated for perpetuating the myth of the 3,000 mile oil change. My last truck had 365k on it when I got my Tundra, it had the original motor than ran perfectly, changed the oil with synthetic every 15k miles. My Tundra has 110,000 on it and I changed that every 10k miles (light comes on every 5).

http://www.kc-synthetic-oil.com/changing-synthetic-oil.html

http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html

Those are alittle tl:dr, but the gist is they do an oil analysis on oil for up to 18,000 miles which has the same properties as fresh oil. Unless you live in a sandy enviroment or you only drive 5k miles per year there is no reason to change it at 3k unless you have money to burn and enjoy doing it.

[Ponce]

In 20 of owning my Toy pick up the only people to touch it is the ones that replaced my rear brakes ....... under my watchful eyes......and this year when having no water screwed up my engine and "my" mechanic here in town took it apart and fixed it for $1,469......................by the way, still not running right, took it back four times.

[Quad66]

I like this concept. "Cash for Clunkers" probably took thousands of "resilient cars" off the road.

"The resilient cars page is dedicated to sedans, SUVs, and trucks that are incredibly reliable in design and engine build, that have a minimal amount of engine-integrated electronics, and are relatively simple from a mechanical standpoint. Most resilient cars can be repaired with a simple set of tools and a basic understanding of mechanics and wiring."

http://www.miiu.org/wiki/Autos

[BrewTech]

Easy, eliminate all doubt, work on your own shit.
Bullshit! In the first case, they marked the fucking fuel pump module! That won't be replaced, even if you replaced the fuel filter sock attached to the pump (which never has to be replaced, except in the event that the fuel pump module is replaced). This whole thing is a bullshit setup! I say say that, having near zero love for amateur like Jiffy Lube.

Trust me people, this is nothing but propaganda to beat up on companies that are doing something useful...

Trust me people... I KNOW there are shops ripping people off in my line of work.This "expose'" doesn't expose anything but the MSMs willingness to sabotage legimate businesses! THIS VIDEO IS A FUCKING LIE!

(Let me say again that I think JL is a JOKE!)

[mick silver]

i went back and watch the vid again it was a fuel pump the marked thanks brew

[hoarder]

Wow! The media actually did something useful and exposed corruption!

Next stop the Federal Reserve....

......

....not!

[solid]

Bullshit! In the first case, they marked the fucking fuel pump module! That won't be replaced, even if you replaced the fuel filter sock attached to the pump (which never has to be replaced, except in the event that the fuel pump module is replaced). This whole thing is a bullshit setup! I say say that, having near zero love for amateur like Jiffy Lube.

Trust me people, this is nothing but propaganda to beat up on companies that are doing something useful...
!)

Good catch Brewtech. Not to be too off topic, but what's your take on those transmission fluid flush systems they have these days? My local guy, mostly a tire guy, honest, was telling me I should to that at the 80K mark. Said it would keep my transmission going for the life of the vehicle.

[Ponce]

LOL solid, after twenty years do you think that I should do mine? hahahahahahaah

[solid]

LOL solid, after twenty years do you think that I should do mine? hahahahahahaah

:) Maybe it is bullshit. Is your toyota a stick or automatic? Mine's an auto, first auto I've ever owned...I bought the toy to drive the piss out of it. Love this truck. I hope to still own it in 20 years!

[BrewTech]

Wow! The media actually did something useful and exposed corruption!

Next stop the Federal Reserve....

......

....not!
They did it by lying and deceit. Where have I seen that before?