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iOWNme
7th August 2011, 03:36 PM
I found this video very interesting and thought i would share. I do not claim to be a 'master' bible scholar, i am just on my own road and search for truth.

Using the start of the Roman Catholic Church, and the persecution of Christians, this video shows a very interesting take on the destruction of the Western Roman Empire, and the rise of the Roman Catholic Church. This video also claims that Paul is a deceiver, and is spreading lies, and backs up all allegations with side by side comparisons to the word of Paul and word of God.

Hopefully some other members like MAGNES, Ares, Dys, palani, Awoke, Twisted, Spectrism, etc...(Im sure i missed a bunch) will reply with their thoughts and other opinions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL8eq6Q9I-Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1qz5mr3ABE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WTWo5ScgII&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaNHNRqhLNM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLzpINByY-o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r57xzCj5kHE&feature=related

Glass
8th August 2011, 02:18 AM
interesting. At P4.

I have come across some of this angle before. I haven't looked in detail at it. I like the way he separates the Disciples out of the gospel writers. Especially how Luke writes up the disciples gaining the power of the holy ghost.

JJ.G0ldD0t
8th August 2011, 08:41 AM
I've only watched the first vid. I WILL watch the rest.... The guy is using the jewish pronunciation of "Jesus Messiah" and "Yah". Agenda much? Yet I reserve judgement.

Now that said I have recently found myself in conflict with the christian doctrine as presented by the organized church. I am on my own search for answers.

I'm afraid that the truth is well hidden.

dys
8th August 2011, 08:55 AM
Don't reserve judgement. He is a wolf. He uses the old 'the bible was written over many years' trick to try and discredit it. He pronounces the name Jesus Christ as Yashuah, which is a clue into his 'hebrew roots' agenda. Common tricks of these wolves include preaching 'Satan's seed' doctrine, especially preaching a works doctrine, and misinterpreting the bible claiming that hebrew doesn't translate into english properly (see 7th trumps posts).
And Paul. Works pushers always go after Paul, because you can't preach a works doctrine with Paul standing in your way.

Sui Juris, my friend, I've been down this rabbit hole and it leads to a very ugly place.

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die . Believest thou this?

dys

iOWNme
8th August 2011, 05:33 PM
Don't reserve judgement. He is a wolf. He uses the old 'the bible was written over many years' trick to try and discredit it. He pronounces the name Jesus Christ as Yashuah, which is a clue into his 'hebrew roots' agenda. Common tricks of these wolves include preaching 'Satan's seed' doctrine, especially preaching a works doctrine, and misinterpreting the bible claiming that hebrew doesn't translate into english properly (see 7th trumps posts).
And Paul. Works pushers always go after Paul, because you can't preach a works doctrine with Paul standing in your way.

Sui Juris, my friend, I've been down this rabbit hole and it leads to a very ugly place.

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die . Believest thou this?

dys

dys this guy seems to be backing Christianity, and showing how the Catholic Church infiltrated and condemned it.

dys, do you see a difference between the 4 Gospels and the Apostles? This video goes through how God said that no man can testify on his own behalf, and there are 2 witness' to the word of God: Matthew and John. Out of the 4 Gospels, Matthew and John are the only 2 Apostles. He then goes on to show you that Paul ALWAYS testifies on his own behalf, and constantly preaches the opposite of the word of God. Please, watch this whole video if you have time.

StreetsOfGold
8th August 2011, 07:38 PM
I only watched the first video but this guy is a Neophyte in Biblical understanding and early church history. He makes himself out to be more authoritive using dramatic music in the background (which is really annoying). He doesn't appear to even understand what the apocrypha is but only allures to it as some "additional" books the Roman Catholic church weaseled into THEIR "bible" as opposed to THE Bible from the Christian's church.
The canon of scripture was completed by John (Revelations) approx 90 AD and was determined to be the 66 books no later than 150 AD by Christians... NOT catholics. There were NO Catholics (in name) until much later although the "seeds" of Catholicsm were sowed earlier than this through Alexandria, Egypt and the corrupt influences of Origen and the likes of Philo culminating in Jerome's latin vulgate...NOT TO BE CONFUSED with the OLD LATIN which the Christian church had already determined to be the CORRECT line of manuscripts as scripture.

JJ.G0ldD0t
9th August 2011, 07:40 AM
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The canon of scripture was completed by John (Revelations) approx 90 AD and was determined to be the 66 books no later than 150 AD by Christians... NOT catholics. There were NO Catholics (in name) until much later although the "seeds" of Catholicsm were sowed earlier than this through Alexandria, Egypt and the corrupt influences of Origen and the likes of Philo culminating in Jerome's latin vulgate...NOT TO BE CONFUSED with the OLD LATIN which the Christian church had already determined to be the CORRECT line of manuscripts as scripture.

Absolute agreement about the dramatic effect... really annoying.

Can you please point me to some reading on this subject?
I'd appreciate it.

dys
9th August 2011, 10:04 AM
dys this guy seems to be backing Christianity, and showing how the Catholic Church infiltrated and condemned it.

dys, do you see a difference between the 4 Gospels and the Apostles? This video goes through how God said that no man can testify on his own behalf, and there are 2 witness' to the word of God: Matthew and John. Out of the 4 Gospels, Matthew and John are the only 2 Apostles. He then goes on to show you that Paul ALWAYS testifies on his own behalf, and constantly preaches the opposite of the word of God. Please, watch this whole video if you have time.

I'll watch it and get back to you. I only made it halfway through part 2.

dys

Santa
9th August 2011, 10:38 AM
I don't have much to offer here, but I can say that from an aesthetic point of view, the entire video series sucked on many levels.
From the intensely obnoxious music to the repetition of clips, it was HARD to watch the whole thing.

iOWNme
9th August 2011, 06:45 PM
I don't have much to offer here, but I can say that from an aesthetic point of view, the entire video series sucked on many levels.
From the intensely obnoxious music to the repetition of clips, it was HARD to watch the whole thing.

I agree. LOL I kept thinking, WTF is this guy doing!

But i did find the information interesting. I wanted to see if any other members were familiar with it or not.

7th trump
15th August 2011, 06:16 AM
Don't reserve judgement. He is a wolf. He uses the old 'the bible was written over many years' trick to try and discredit it. He pronounces the name Jesus Christ as Yashuah, which is a clue into his 'hebrew roots' agenda. Common tricks of these wolves include preaching 'Satan's seed' doctrine, especially preaching a works doctrine, and misinterpreting the bible claiming that hebrew doesn't translate into english properly (see 7th trumps posts).
And Paul. Works pushers always go after Paul, because you can't preach a works doctrine with Paul standing in your way.

Sui Juris, my friend, I've been down this rabbit hole and it leads to a very ugly place.
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die . Believest thou this?

dys
Then maybe you should read the Bible Dys instead of discrediting it.
As far as translating the Bible back to its original language to get the full understanding you have to be a blind moron not to.
I see you havent overcome one of your disabilities of not understanding the difference between the subject from the object?
My whole stance here is theres a fake christ showing up first before the real Christ appears at the last (7th) trumpet.
The word "anti" of antichrist translates back to "instead of-christ" which is a whole lot different than what is taught today traditionally by the main stream churches.
Once you "GET IT" dys, reading the Bible is brought into its proper context. That means you have to shed your traditional dogma and go with trusting our Father and doing the research which always supports God Word.
Havent seen good ole Sheperds Chapel misdirect once yet. They always, and I mean always, back themselves up with documentation.
I've probably fogotten more than you'll ever know Dys!