Where is the money going?

[mightymanx]

So trillions of dollars have been pulled from the market this week where are they going?

I don't buy that all this money going into bonds or gold. So who is making out?

Discuss please, I an trying to find the left hand while the london right hand is waving in my face.

[Ponce]

I for one don't care, but worry only in what I hold.........

[iOWNme]

For every dollar lost, SOMEBODY made a dollar.



REALLY think about that.

[mightymanx]

For every dollar lost, SOMEBODY made a dollar.



REALLY think about that.

That is my point I am trying to figure out where, then the Who will be revealed.

Who is reaping the profits from the fresh crop pf sheep being slaughtered they have been fattening up for a few years now. I I can find the meat market I can possibly find the butcher.

[midnight rambler]

The thing about the casino is that the house always wins.

"It's just got to pay off...sooner or later, it's just got to I tell ya."

"Frank-lin"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9yTuEaUbcI&feature=related

[vacuum]

Well, if it is deflationary pressures causing the market to drop, then that money simply disappeared. It didn't go anywhere. For example, if you lose confidence in the market, perhaps you decide to cash out your stock and pay off your debt. That destroys the money.

The result is that money is extinguished from the system, and the ones who didn't cash out now have no money, and they default on their loans. Then banks get all their stuff.

[Joe King]

How much money do you guys believe is in the market?

The stock market is a giantic ponzi scheme and if there was ever a real mass rush to the exit...how many people would get any money out of it? 1% maybe?
That's it right there. The only reason the markets are worth anything is because people keep their $ wrapped up in it.
Everything is like that. Gold too. If everyone owning gold screamed "sell sell sell!" tomorrow morning trying to get their $1800 an or whatever it might be at the time, hardly anyone would actually get it.
Most would get some % less somewhere along the way down.



It is only digits on a screen, all the real money is long gone and funding lifestyles of kings.Not sure about all the other Kings, but it's funding mine quite nicely, thank you. :p



Someone I was listening to a few years ago was trying to expose the scam...this person was explaining that at the time the market was operating in a vacuum and the only money in the market was new money that just enters it.That's how you get yours out.
ie by someone new purchasing your position.



So the point is, only a few trillion in digits are gone. It's not real money.It's but the representation of money until the new investor ponies up to take your place in the game.

[keehah]

There is much less reaping of profit and much more shattering delusions of value in paper investments.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

It's just somebody taking profits.

[Spectrism]

It is not deflation that makes the market drop, although it compounds the drop in cascading effects. Actually, drops in the market ARE deflation... or cause deflation.

It is not just profit-taking, as that assumes even equity exchanges. Let's look at the principle: 1,000,000 people own stock in Floating Company Inc. Each share is currently trading at $20. So we have a market capitalization (market cap) of $20,000,000.

News comes in that a new Chinese company called Float Sinkers is offering the same product line as Floating Company but at one-tenth of the price..... a price that Floating Company cannot even buy raw materials at. Suddenly, nobody wants to buy the old stock but 100,000 (just 10%) of the share holders rush for the exits trying to sell "at market". Since there is no market, the price drops to zero. There may be a few ignorant people who buy at $5 thinking they can at least have value in company assets.

Let's say it levels off at $5. What is the market cap now? $5million. The market just lost $15million. But was that money real? No. Some bought in 30 years ago at $1. Some bought in at $8. If the company was paying dividends, there was payoff for many. What is lost is the PERCEIVED money, as if all 1million shares were worth $20. Only a fraction of that is real loss. In a mature market, that fraction could be large. Take for example, retirement funds. If you are counting on that money to be available for withdrawal, you will FEEL that loss. You thought ALL of your shares were worth $20. But their value was based on: market strength of the company and confidence of the shareholders.

If I have a loaf of bread in my hands, its nutritional value does not depend on what others think about it.

[palani]

Welcome to the appearance of reality. There is no money in a dream. While acting out your portion of the illusion you might see a sack of coin or pile of money or a palace or private jet one instant and the next it will be replaced by a mile long gar.

Compliments of Woody Guthrie Talking Fishing Blues
http://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/Lyrics.htm

Late last night I had me a dream,
I was out fishin' in a whiskey stream,
Baited my hook with apple-jack,
Threw out a drink, drug a gallon back.
(Done pretty good till the creek run dry.
I give the fish back to the finance company.)

[Twisted Titan]

The money went to the shorts who were on the other side of the play and nicely prepositioned before the news was released about the S&P down grade.

Think Rothchild and the battel of waterloo.