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Hatha Sunahara
12th August 2011, 10:10 PM
Rick Perry is one of the entrants in the puppet auditions. He has as much intellect and character as Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman or Mit Romney which isn't much. Somebody put him in the same puppet mold they used for GW Bush. I suppose you can get a lot of easy votes if the religious right supports you in Texas, so you have to play up to them. You also have to play up to Israel. And you then have to play up to the Banksters. No wonder he sounds so much like a Christian fundamentalist Zionist Neocon Tea Party Rob Em Blind for the Banksters kind of guy. I bet he avoids reading the constitution, and only reads scripts prepared for him by the elite who support him. This is their agenda.

Hatha




http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/12/294753/rick-perry-says-social-security-and-medicare-are-unconstitutional/

Rick Perry Says Social Security And Medicare Are Unconstitutional (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/12/294753/rick-perry-says-social-security-and-medicare-are-unconstitutional/)

By Ian Millhiser (http://thinkprogress.org/author/ian-m/) on Aug 12, 2011 at 10:37 am
Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) has, to say the least, a very odd understanding of the Constitution. He thinks Texas should be able to opt out of Social Security (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/11/06/128649/perry-channels-miller/), and he believes that everything from federal public school programs to clean air laws are unconstitutional (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/28/255572/perry-hates-the-constitution-again/). Yet in an interview with the Daily Beast’s Andrew Romano, Perry makes his most outlandish claim to date — Social Security and Medicare are unconstitutional (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/12/rick-perry-newsweek-interview-transcript.html):

The Constitution says that “the Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes… to provide for the… general Welfare of the United States.” But I noticed that when you quoted this section on page 116, you left “general welfare” out and put an ellipsis in its place. Progressives would say that “general welfare” includes things like Social Security or Medicare—that it gives the government the flexibility to tackle more than just the basic responsibilities laid out explicitly in our founding document. What does “general welfare” mean to you?
[PERRY:] I don’t think our founding fathers when they were putting the term “general welfare” in there were thinking about a federally operated program of pensions nor a federally operated program of health care. What they clearly said was that those were issues that the states need to address. Not the federal government. I stand very clear on that. From my perspective, the states could substantially better operate those programs if that’s what those states decided to do.
So in your view those things fall outside of general welfare. But what falls inside of it? What did the Founders mean by “general welfare”?
[PERRY:] I don’t know if I’m going to sit here and parse down to what the Founding Fathers thought general welfare meant.
But you just said what you thought they didn’t mean by general welfare. So isn’t it fair to ask what they did mean? It’s in the Constitution.
[Silence.]
Perry’s reading of the Constitution raises very serious questions about whether he understands the English language. The Constitution gives Congress the power to “to lay and collect taxes” and to “provide for the…general welfare of the United States (http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/23/miller-social-security/).” No plausible interpretation of the words “general welfare” does not include programs that ensure that all Americans can live their entire lives secure in the understanding that retirement will not force them into poverty and untreated sickness.
Moreover, Perry’s belief that Social Security and Medicare must cease to exist not only puts him well to the right of his fellow Republicans in Congress — who recently voted to gradually phase out Medicare (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/15/158765/gop-end-medicare-and-shutdown/) — it also puts him at the rightward fringe of the GOP presidential field. Not even Michele Bachmann has gone on record claiming that America’s two most cherished programs for seniors violate the Constitution, although she did invite a Fox News analyst who shares Perry’s beliefs to lecture her fellow lawmakers on what the Constitution requires (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/07/08/263680/bachmann-hates-first-amendment/).
When House Budget Chair Paul Ryan (R-WI) released the GOP’s plan to slowly eliminate Medicare, it was the most conservative budget proposal anyone had seriously considered in generations. Perry’s agenda, however, makes Paul Ryan look like Ted Kennedy.

Joe King
12th August 2011, 10:58 PM
Rick Perry Says Social Security And Medicare Are Unconstitutional Aren't they?

midnight rambler
13th August 2011, 01:29 AM
I think he's been schooled on how tickle ears and push buttons so he becomes popular. He didn't go to Bilderberg 'cause they have great hors d'oeuvres.

Glass
13th August 2011, 03:49 AM
He could be on to something.

ShortJohnSilver
13th August 2011, 07:04 AM
If he truly believes that, he should either instruct Texas govt to stop withholding, or, if he doesn't, he should face being tried for treason - the penalty being death. Bet if you explained it to him that way he would backtrack rather quickly.

iOWNme
13th August 2011, 07:04 AM
Does he want to replace Social Security and Medicare with the NAFTA Superhighway and Forced inoculations of Gardasil for school girls?


http://www.infowars.com/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president/

Dogman
13th August 2011, 07:31 AM
In some ways IMHO Perry would be worse for this nation than the pin head in office now. He would be worse than bush.

Grog
13th August 2011, 08:06 AM
He may state he is against those programs but once in office he would do nothing to fix the programs, as in removing them. Shallow talk. He is a career politician and has done many iffy things as governor of Texas. (I'm a life time Texas resident)

I will say one thing good about him. He is serious about supporting gun rights. He has a spotless record in that regard and even carries concealed. I don't think he is a perfect candidate by any stretch, but he would be my second choice for the Republican nomination after Ron Paul. Even though that is a very distant second place. None of the other Republican folks even get a second glance from me.

My observation is that he is too close to Bush. Too much association with the former president. I think that will be a big detractor for him getting the nomination, instead of a bonus. I don't think he will get the nomination for Pres. I did vote for him for governor. His gun position got my vote. And I do feel kind of dirty, even though I'm pretty happy Bill White is not our Governor. *whew*

Hatha Sunahara
13th August 2011, 10:46 AM
He's just one head on a hydra headed monster. Palin is another. Bachman is another, So is Obama. And Romney, and all the other shitheads running for office. They are all connected to the same brain that controls everything they say and do. The appearance of any difference between them is due to the observer not seeing the hydra headed nature of the beast.

No matter who gets elected, we will get the same thing. It's Perry's job to make you think there is no hydra monster, and that he is different from all the other heads. The media helps him a lot. Perry is worth a good laugh. Smart people will ignore him altogether.

Hatha

Cebu_4_2
13th August 2011, 01:04 PM
My son heard a speech today, says he sounds like Bush without the lisp.