Trouble ahead

[Sparky]

A couple of young guys (early 20's) set up a table outside my local post office today, and hanging down the side was a big picture of Obama, with a Hitler mustache painted on. There was also a poster saying "Return the Glass-Steagall Act". As I walked by, there was a middle-aged woman screaming at them that they shouldn't using the Hitler image, because they were not being respectful to the people who suffered horribly under him. Personally, I also thought the Obama-Hitler poster was totally out of line for that venue.

I saw they had some Lyndon Larouche material on their table. They were shouting how the people need to wake up to what is going on, rather than watching Dancing with the Stars. (Sound familiar?) I went to approach them to explain that it was good that they were being active, but they should soften their approach, since an Obama-Hitler poster is only going to turn people away before they can make their point. So one of the guys told me that the people needed to be spanked with the truth, and asked me to sign some petition, and donate to their cause.

I told them I was on their side, but I wanted to help them out with their approach. They told me to sign and donate. I mentioned they should soften it up, so that people might listen to what they have to say. So the other guy said to me, "baby boomers like you screwed up this country. Why don't you just leave!" So I explained to him that yes, the baby boomer generation did do a lot of things wrong, and that his generation was going to get screwed by it. The other guy then said "so then sign the petition". When I tried to engage in a conversation about what exactly they were trying to do (I don't even know what the petition was for), because I was interested in giving them some advice, they got belligerent. I told them I wanted to help, and the second guy said, "You can help us by leaving". So I walked away.

I was shocked with how closed-minded they were. They assumed I was one of the sheep. I have been of the opinion that the people currently in their 20's and 30's (the Millenials) are going to be the generation that knocks this country on its ass in order to rescue it from crisis, and that it will probably take place in 10-15 years. It's their group that WILL get the most screwed, and will finally do something about it once they reached the age of authority.

I expected the anger from these guys, but not the pig-headedness. They couldn't even recognize an ally. If this is how it's going to be, it really could get ugly.

[mrnhtbr2232]

Here's another field report: exactly the same thing happened to me on Hayes St. in San Francisco Friday. But in addition to the Glass-Steagall Act they had a big picture of Obama and the word IMPEACH. As I walked by one of the two young men said "what do you think?" - I replied as I kept walking they had guts and keep up the good work. Then they said "then sign up" and I just commented I was already checked out on the political dynamics and kept going. Hard edge on them and going for the jugular in the heart of gay and uber-liberal SF neighborhood. It was the last thing I ever expected to see there.

[Dogman]

Those people are hard core and most if not all members are true believers in Lyndon Larouche, it is almost like a cult. It is their way or nothing.

[Joe King]

they got belligerent. I told them I wanted to help, and the second guy said, "You can help us by leaving". So I walked away.There is nothing for them to gain by hearing your views, and they weren't there to have their ideas and beliefs challenged or questioned, as they've already made their determination as to "what's wrong".
The last thing they want to hear is some new piece of information that could possibly cause them to question that which they know.
ie cognitive dissonance can be a real bitch.



I was shocked with how closed-minded they were.The natural human state tends towards close-mindedness. One has to first want to be open-minded in order to actually be open-minded.
For some, that can be hard to do if they've already convinced themselves of something, as their door of mental exploration is closed on that particular subject.



I expected the anger from these guys, but not the pig-headedness. They couldn't even recognize an ally. If this is how it's going to be, it really could get ugly.What's going to happen in a big crash is that everyone will be angry, but few will actually know who or what to properly be angry at.

So they'll just end up lashing out at whoever happens to look appropriate to them at the time.
ie the person who probably least deserves it.

[midnight rambler]

Those people are hard core and most if not all members are true believers in Lyndon Larouche, it is almost like a cult. It is there way or nothing.

Essentially what I was going to post upon reading the OP. Not only are Larouche supporters obnoxious and closed-minded, they can be downright nasty when you don't fall into their ranks. At least they're consistent, huh? It is indeed a cult of personality, big time.

[Grog]

I recall some very unpleasant discussions with Larouche supporters in Houston in the late 80's - early 90's. They really turned me off to whatever they might have been trying to communicate. Sounds like my experience is similar to other board members' experiences. Probably not an isolated event.

[Down1]

A couple years ago they were hanging outside Shaws Looking for Sigs to get one of their peeps on the ballot.
I refused to sign and was called a "sheep".

[gunDriller]

Those people are hard core and most if not all members are true believers in Lyndon Larouche, it is almost like a cult. It is their way or nothing.

that's what i was thinking - they sound like members of the LaRouche cult.

i am pretty sure LaRouche is a member of Team Israel. i had some conversations back at the time of the 2000 Pres. election with their history editor, Anton Chaitkin. his father was a member of the team of hundreds of Zionists that were sent to Europe to paint the Holo-hoax. later, Anton writes books about, for example, George Bush ... without saying a word about Israel.

in the case of the Y2K election, in the 2 weeks of mass confusion after the day of the election, Chaitkin went out of his way to mis-lead me. told me that Zell Miller was going to be the Senator to stand with Rep. Alcee Hastings to challenge the results (something that Gore actually could have done too) - you need a Senator and a Representative to challenge an election.

total mis-direct. Miller is a total Zionist - which i didn't know at the time.

[Twisted Titan]

The man aligns himself with the principles of FDR

That's all you need to know

[JohnQPublic]

What I find interesting about the LaRouche org is that they are largely jewish, and take all the ills that are usually laid at the feet of jews and point it to the British (not to say the Brits don't deserve some heat). They are very critical of the ADL and the Bnai Brith though, and LaRouche has been attacked as anti-semitic many times.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I've also had my share of run ins with LaRouche supporters. I got into a screaming match once over the same thing - they wanted me to join or leave, and I was only interested in discussing their platform. They oftentimes don't have as in depth of an understanding of the issues as they like to present.

[Dogman]

I understand they are still around, but like the LaRouche org. are under the radar, and that is the John Birch Society. They used too be very active in this area in the 1960's. Now I think , haven't heard a word about them in a loooong time.

[midnight rambler]

Word is that David Rockefeller was behind the scenes helping Robert Welch form JBS.