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Serpo
18th August 2011, 02:46 PM
Meet the students who stopped exploitation @Hersheys plant and are demanding that PA workers get living wage jobs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-h8EBP0JSs

Santa
18th August 2011, 05:42 PM
Un fucking believable. The state department is colluding with corporations to import cheap labor from overseas...
and while american workers can't find jobs.

Joe King
18th August 2011, 06:00 PM
Paying real livable wages, is getting to be too inflationary it seems.

Spectrism
18th August 2011, 06:07 PM
Hold on a minute. I heard in the video that Hershey CONTRACTED the jobs. Who is the company that they contracted with?

I never heard the name of the contractor. This looks like a hit piece.

If you are running a company, and some contractor offers to do your labor at half price, and you will not have to cover insurance, social security, paid vacations, paid leaves, etc.... wouldn't you take that deal? The government has made it prohibitive to keep employees. This is why companies are going to contract workers, part time non-salaried deals and plain out exporting the labor to other countries.

How is it that these green card migrants did not know what they were getting into? Notice how they were told they would work at Hersheys. Who told them that? It was the contract company that is responsible for their low pay.

Shami-Amourae
18th August 2011, 06:41 PM
If this doesn't work the Corporations can just have them arrested and they can work for $0.20 an hour as a slave prison worker.

vacuum
18th August 2011, 08:59 PM
Good thing they are exploiting young students who aspire to get educations and stuff. Otherwise its a good way to get their legs broken.

Glass
18th August 2011, 10:39 PM
Hold on a minute. I heard in the video that Hershey CONTRACTED the jobs. Who is the company that they contracted with?

I never heard the name of the contractor. This looks like a hit piece.

If you are running a company, and some contractor offers to do your labor at half price, and you will not have to cover insurance, social security, paid vacations, paid leaves, etc.... wouldn't you take that deal? The government has made it prohibitive to keep employees. This is why companies are going to contract workers, part time non-salaried deals and plain out exporting the labor to other countries.

How is it that these green card migrants did not know what they were getting into? Notice how they were told they would work at Hersheys. Who told them that? It was the contract company that is responsible for their low pay.

Yes it's like the Apple and FoxConn deal. Apple contracts the iPhone work out to FoxConn. They don't have any control over wages of the people who assemble their products.

woodman
19th August 2011, 04:49 AM
This is the way it is going. I cannot afford to have employees. I get contracts on a razor thin profit margin, if that, and the intricacies and costs of acually having employees as opposed to 1099 workers are beyond me. I cannot afford the insurance and do the payroll and pay 7.5% taxes on them. I am probably going to go under anyway. Can't even make enough to cover my costs anymore.

Main contractors refuse to have employees now, so a guy like me is given sub-contracts and might make a buck, or might not. It is getting fuedal out there. The thin veneer of civilization is being stripped away and the naked brutality of this jungle is getting hard to miss.

Spectrism
19th August 2011, 05:47 AM
This is the way it is going. I cannot afford to have employees. I get contracts on a razor thin profit margin, if that, and the intricacies and costs of acually having employees as opposed to 1099 workers are beyond me. I cannot afford the insurance and do the payroll and pay 7.5% taxes on them. I am probably going to go under anyway. Can't even make enough to cover my costs anymore.

Main contractors refuse to have employees now, so a guy like me is given sub-contracts and might make a buck, or might not. It is getting fuedal out there. The thin veneer of civilization is being stripped away and the naked brutality of this jungle is getting hard to miss.

I see this with contractors in the northeast states. They are getting skinned alive and their treatment of others is getting.... uhhh... abrupt. The old rules are gone. And, as an employer, you have no idea what Odumma is going to do in the next year. Imagine the government telling employers that they cannot layoff workers even if they have no work. Or, that they must increase wages or pay a non-compliance penalty. They could bring IRS agents into your facility to review your books and see what you can "afford" before going out of business. Sound a bit extreme? I think we are in extreme times. The last thing I would want to do now is start a business and hire employees.

TomD
19th August 2011, 06:14 AM
I see this with contractors in the northeast states. They are getting skinned alive and their treatment of others is getting.... uhhh... abrupt. The old rules are gone. And, as an employer, you have no idea what Odumma is going to do in the next year. Imagine the government telling employers that they cannot layoff workers even if they have no work. Or, that they must increase wages or pay a non-compliance penalty. They could bring IRS agents into your facility to review your books and see what you can "afford" before going out of business. Sound a bit extreme? I think we are in extreme times. The last thing I would want to do now is start a business and hire employees.

As recently as just a few years ago, your scenario would appear to be a fictional account of some nightmare Orwellian world. Now, it is entirely too plausible. Sounds like about 1/2 the board here would cheer that on.

Question: has Hershey's forced or coerced anyone to take or keep a job at that facility? About 10 years ago I was talking to a concrete truck driver working for a ready mix outfit. His union had just finished a 6-week strike against his employer. I asked him what the strike was about and he replied that he had been with the company for 12 years and that he wasn't getting the money and benefits that he deserved. I then asked him what is the most natural question in the world, to me anyway: if they weren't treating you well, why not find another job? I didn't get an answer, not verbal anyway, he became furious with me and I thought it was going to a fistfight right there. Lots of information in that reaction.

This mindset has far predated the current job scarcity.

Woodman, I've been there and done that. Good luck to you!

DMac
19th August 2011, 06:51 AM
Same as it ever was.

Reason #71242 why it's time for a good ole fashioned slave rebellion - and this time it needs to go global.

Santa
19th August 2011, 07:35 AM
Screw Hershey's!

Hershey's is no bastion of free enterprise ingenuity. It is an excellent example of a fascist State Monopoly that produces and distributes addictive and harmful drugs to little kids.
The fact that they contract out their labor and labor management is nothing more than a means of reducing their own liability, similar to the shell games of Enron and many many other massive corporate/Government alliances.

The OP video shows how the State is colluding with a mega corporation to drive labor costs down, even to the point of creating a foreign slave labor program that would seem more at home in some fucking banana republic.

dys
19th August 2011, 07:39 AM
I think what's happened is that the inequality model is spreading over to the corporate side. The top 1% of corporations make a boatload of money and the others just squeak by.

dys

Santa
19th August 2011, 07:55 AM
And to top it off, Hershey's "product" is loaded with cheap and extremely unhealthy fillers. Just like any other drug dealers looking to maximize profits.

Hershey's strikes me as an excellent example, along with Coke and Nestle's, etc..., of everything that went horribly wrong in America.

There should never have been a fortune 500 of multinational Corporations. They make a fucking lie and travesty out of the basic concepts of free enterprise.

Defending these mega Corporations is like defending Globalism.

As old Aunt Nancy said, "Just Say No!"

JDRock
19th August 2011, 08:21 AM
it is the natural result of a nation believing the lie about political correctness.

Barbaro
19th August 2011, 10:01 AM
Thanks for the story, Serpo. This story is gaining some traction. The US is becoming a 3rd world country, IMO.

Sponsored by the state department, for foreign students on a J-1 Visa.

Glass
19th August 2011, 10:38 AM
Santa, telling it like it is as usual. You are on the money. We are even seeing it down under. They are shipping in high rise scaffolders becuase they are 1/5th the cost and they don't need to safety rig them. not sure why the safety rules don't apply but apparently they don't. We are seeing a lot like that.

there is a gas project on an island off the north west coast and they declared the project to be a pristine environment and Australians are quarantined from going there. Every single piece of equipment going to the island has to be quarantined for months before it can be landed. All shrink wrapped. Cars, trucks, turbines the size of high rise buildings....the lot.

Guess what. All the labour on the island is chinese. Aussie aren't allowed to go there for fear people will realise they shipped in slave labour. They use quarantine laws to keep us away.

Now we also have this green card type system and if you can get one, the govt gives you $75K towards a house and a free car upto $60K. Me myself and I get nothing. Most Aussies have no clue how badly we are being screwed by this. Multiply those $ by 100+ K imigrants a year and you have big numbers.

A real estate agent told me about the property grants and I was flabergasted.

mick silver
19th August 2011, 12:33 PM
welcome to china . i told a bud a few years back thats were we are headed . he laugh his ass off well we are almost there . i see it now ... will work for a 1.00 and hour

ShortJohnSilver
19th August 2011, 12:33 PM
Hershey's doesn't even make the chocolate bars in USA anymore. Check the label, it is "Mexican chocolate" ... doesn't sound so delicious anymore does it?

SLV^GLD
19th August 2011, 12:52 PM
Hershey's doesn't even make the chocolate bars in USA anymore. Check the label, it is "Mexican chocolate" ... doesn't sound so delicious anymore does it?

Some of chocolate's richest history originates from what is today known as Mexico and some of the best is till made there.
Ever heard of “xocolātl or Oaxaca?

I really enjoy this chocoltae which is based on their methods:
http://www.tazachocolate.com/AboutUs

Mind you, I'm not saying this means anything good about Hershey's presence in Mexico.