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steyr_m
19th August 2011, 08:15 AM
I know there's tonnes of articles/posts about preps for ammo, food, etc. What about being terminally ill during SHTF? I do not have a history of cancer in my family; but I won't rule it out.

I've read about B17, high dose Vitamin C, removing all sugar from the diet, and now Calcium I found this here [http://www.henrymakow.com/my_cancer_cure_by_al.html]. What do you think is the best? Or a multi-pronged approach [using all that I mentioned]. Would someone prefer the conventional approach if available, like surgery, chemo?

Prepare a Cancer Survival Plan Now

August 17, 2011

42% of British Will Get cancer

Don't wait until you are diagnosed to take action!

by Andrew Lanyard
(henrymakow.com)

Reading the article by Geraldine Philips on the self-serving cancer industry made me think of my Uncle Frank and Aunt Eunice.

When I was a kid, my uncle and aunt were outspoken defenders of Dr. Andrew Ivy, a respected medical researcher who claimed that a substance named Krebiozen had cured many cancer cases.

Dr. Ivy's claim created a firestorm of controversy, and he was soon stripped of his membership in leading medical organizations. (He had been a director of the American Cancer Society.)

Despite the fact that it did not conduct proper medical trials on Krebiozen, the AMA declared it to be worthless, and suggested that Dr. Ivy was senile. In short, despite the high standing he had enjoyed, he was professionally destroyed.

I don't know whether Krebiozen had merit or not. The main reason I remember this is that about 15 years later my uncle developed cancer. By this time I was aware of many alternative treatments. For example, the protocol developed by Dr. Max Gerson (which is primarily a dietary and detoxification program) and a protocol using laetrile or vitamin B17.

My uncle's condition was grave (stage 4 cancer, meaning that it had "spread" to a number of areas of his body.) Though he had been a supporter of Dr. Ivy, to my surprise, he submitted meekly to intense radiological treatment.

I remember my aunt describing how he would be strapped into a chair and then lowered mechanically into the center of a huge machine which would bombard his body with radiation from all sides. This was "state of the art" treatment at the time.

It was a protracted, debilitating, and costly ordeal -- and in the end, futile. He died as a passive victim, both of cancer and of the cancer establishment.

Most cancer patients actually die from the cancer treatment rather than the cancer itself.


BE PREPARED

My uncle's convictions were not enough. When the crisis struck, he did not have an alternative plan of action, or was unable to defy the pressures that doctors will apply. Doctors possess great authority and they will proceed on the basis that you are going to do as they say.

If you balk, they will tell you that you must act immediately, that any delay may be fatal. They will let you know that you're ignorant, that you're a fool.

If they can, they'll get your spouse or family to pressure you. Many doctors will say you will be on your own, cut off from organized medicine.

Not all doctors are like this, but this is what you should be prepared for.

It's not enough to know about alternatives. These days many people have heard of treatments for cancer other than orthodox medicine's famous trio of cut, poison, and burn.

They may have read about Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez, who has built upon the pioneering work of Dr. William Kelley who treated cancer with pancreatic enzymes, or about Drs. Stanislaw and Gregory Burzynski, who use antineoplastons (peptides that act as genetic switches) to treat cancer on a genetic level.

They may have heard about Essiac tea. They may be familiar with programs similar to Dr. Gerson's, such as the "Incurables" program of Dr. Richard Schulze. In a sense, they may have heard and read too much. The result may be confusion and indecision.

There are dozens of programs. Some are good (some are not.) But even a good program will not be appropriate for everyone, and no program has a 100 percent success rate.

The key is to do your homework ahead of time. Find one or more that seems to fit you. Some people will want a medically oriented program or one that works in tandem with orthodox medicine; others will want a naturopathic approach.

Learn what each program involves in terms of treatment, cost, accessibility, and personal responsibility. All alternative treatments require that the patient take a good deal of responsibility, something that many people do not want (or are not able) to do.

Dr. Schulze says there are no incurable diseases, only incurable patients, which is a variation on what his teacher, Dr. Bernard Jensen, inscribed above the door of his clinic: "The world is looking for great doctors; I'm looking for great patients."

So assess your own capabilities and temperament realistically. And assess your family situation realistically; know what kind of support (or opposition) you can expect.

And since you will have to deal with the organized medical profession -- at least initially -- learn what you need to do to navigate this environment. A good book for this is Survive Your Cancer: The Essential Who, What, When, Why & How Guide for Cancer Patients and Their Families by Barbara Brandon. You can get a copy for less than $5 (including shipping) on www.abebooks.com.


A PERSONAL EXAMPLE

All this came home to me last year, when my sister called and told me that she had breast cancer.

She was told that it was stage 3 and needed to be operated on right away. She needed to have a mastectomy asap.

My sister is intelligent and able to make decisions, but she is also married to a highly successful medical doctor, whose view of medical treatment is down-the-line orthodox. He sincerely believes orthodox medical dogma and is a forceful personality

In addition, my sister lives in the South, a thousand miles from me. In fact, she has no family at all in the state where she lives.

In such a situation, it was not really possible to make a complete break with medical protocol. Fortunately, I knew of an excellent resource which I would recommend to anyone, whatever their situation. That resource is Ralph Moss, Ph.D., and his Web site, www.cancerdecisions.com.

Dr. Moss is an expert in the field of complementary medicine. He is knowledgeable about both orthodox and alternative modalities, and assists people in learning about their specific kind of cancer and their treatment choices. He makes it possible for a person to combine both approaches in a complementary way.

This worked out well in my sister's case, and I believe it would work well for anyone, including those who would prefer to follow an alternative approach exclusively. With Dr. Moss, you can get a wealth of information giving you the "big picture" regarding your kind of cancer, the options available, and what works and what doesn't.


CONCLUSION

The article by Geraldine Philips on the cancer industry was a good look at the medical/pharmaceutical complex, and how it perpetuates sickness even as it pretends to combat it. Behind its facade of caring for the patient, at bottom, it is self-serving.

A well-known neurosurgeon, Dr. Jack Kruse, has said, "The system wants to keep you sick because everyone makes money from your being sick."

But this kind of self-serving is true of most institutions and organizations. And most people who work in these institutions have convinced themselves that they are doing the right thing. Like my brother-in-law, they are sincere. It's hard to change someone's mind when their living depends on accepting the system as it is.

But there is an even more serious and sinister reality than simple venality and hypocrisy. Those who organized the modern medical profession in the past century (notably the Rockefellers) did so not primarily to make money (though they have made a great deal of money from the pharmaceutical industry.)

For the Rockefellers (and their fellow Illuminati) the real motive is not money but control. One of the surest ways to control a population is to control the institutions that determine life and death. And another sure way is to make the population sickly and to keep it so.

The health of the American people has degenerated alarmingly over the past several generations, thanks largely to corporate agribusiness and mass food processing, as well as "public health" programs such as vaccination and fluoridation.

A few years ago, after not having watched television for many years, I started watching again and was astonished at the prevalence of drug advertising. It's as if Americans have been turned into a nation of cripples and invalids.

In this light, the cancer industry is just one more prominent example of the Illuminati's subversion of Americans' independence. Every individual needs to take control of his own life and health.

In preparing to act independently in case of sickness, one is not only increasing one's chances for health and survival, one is stepping outside of Illuminati control and striking a small but real blow for freedom.

http://www.henrymakow.com/surviving_cancer_surviving_ill.html

JJ.G0ldD0t
19th August 2011, 08:25 AM
If I get cancer- AFTER TEOTWAWKI- The whole universe is trying to kill me man.

Screw it. It just wasn't meant to be.

Canadian-guerilla
19th August 2011, 08:35 AM
cancer is one thing i'm not prepping for
if i get cancer after TSHTF, how will i know, guess
i may not have anyone from the cancer industry to tell me

and if i'm feeling really really bad
i'll go into " Lone Wolf " mode and try to take some of the higher-ups with me

LastResort
19th August 2011, 09:36 AM
Don't think theres really any easy answers to cancer, but I don't think that means theres nothing you can do. Its actually one of the things I think are going to mess up alot of peoples SHTF plans.

I'd say the best thing would be prevention. Keep your body detoxed and in good shape and you should never get it in the first place. I know that is a hard thing to do though especially when we are dealing with radiation everyday, chemtrails, EMFs, etc.

There is a long list of natural things that can work. One thing on my list of items to keep cached is food grade H2o2. Supposed to keep the body oxegenated and cancer can't survive in an oxygen rich environment. Lots of info out there on it.

k-os
19th August 2011, 09:52 AM
I doubt any of us would know what cancer is until it kills us. The symptoms that people experience when dealing with cancer, aren't from cancer at all, they're from the radiation.

mick silver
19th August 2011, 03:24 PM
well today i learned i DONT have cancer . i feel like a ton has been lifted off of me .

palani
19th August 2011, 03:40 PM
I keep a little vial of bloodroot handy. This stuff is highly alkaline. You put a speck the size of a match head in some vaseline and smear it on a cancerous growth. Leave it on for 6-8 hours then keep the sore greased for the next 30 days. The bloodroot will eat the cancer down to the bone, flesh gets rebuilt and end up without even a scar.

Don't do it for anything near a ear or nose though. It takes away the cartilage and this does not regrow.

I guess you can take it internally as well but it is said to cause a sour stomach.

This is a plant that grows naturally in the woods. It is said to be an Indian treatment.

mightymanx
19th August 2011, 09:03 PM
http://panthercs.ibeatyou.com/12912_ptetb_1212917481.jpg

After I burn out my barrel and melt the hand guards off my rifle.

steyr_m
19th August 2011, 09:07 PM
If I get cancer- AFTER TEOTWAWKI- The whole universe is trying to kill me man.

Screw it. It just wasn't meant to be.

I know what you're saying, but.... preps aren't only for yourself. It could be for someone in your family, friends.

Just trying to step outside the box with the usual prep subjects and maybe have someone look at something else they might not thought of.

Shami-Amourae
20th August 2011, 06:39 PM
I eat about 7 apricot kernels from Apricot Power a day (Vitamin B-17.)
http://www.apricotpower.com/img/apricots_1lb_lg.png
http://www.apricotpower.com
I recommend not purchasing the Swason apricot kernels since they have pussy amounts of Vitamin B-17. If the apricot kernels don't taste like shit, they aren't worth it IMO. (Not trying to put down Swanson since they are my favorite vitamin shop otherwise.)

They taste like SHIT. It's disgusting, but I eat them quickly and drink something down quick to wash the nasty down. Whenever I eat an apple or something like that I save the seeds, (organic only). I should have a large supplies incase they outlaw the stuff. You can do apricot kernels, apple seeds, cherry kernels (crack the cherry pit), peach kernels, nectarine kernels, and so on (stuff like that). Citrus seeds have nothing in them.

I just recently got a pill maker so I'm planning on making these into pills soon so I don't have to eat these nasty little fuckers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGsSEqsGLWM
This video will give you all the information you need to know. It's made by the same guy who wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island, G. Edward Griffin.

horseshoe3
22nd August 2011, 02:59 PM
I think the best thing would be to learn all you can about natural cures, because the pharmacuticals (even if they worked) won't be around. There was a thread on dandelion tea a while back. Even if you didn't have cancer, that would be a good one to take because it is so easy and harmless.

gunDriller
4th September 2011, 08:26 AM
I think the best thing would be to learn all you can about natural cures, because the pharmacuticals (even if they worked) won't be around. There was a thread on dandelion tea a while back. Even if you didn't have cancer, that would be a good one to take because it is so easy and harmless.

Antineoplastic (anti-cancer) properties of Cannabis

summary, from 1975
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1159836

http://www.marijuana.com/science/175454-antineoplastic-activity-thc-cannabanoids-thc-proven-shrink-tumors-mice.html
full article

however, the test animals (rats) were given injections of cannabinoids - that's much different than the normal human methods of ingestion.


the original 1975 Virginia study was censored from American med school textbooks. it can be found in other countries' med school libraries, and of course on the Internet.

a similar study was performed in Spain this century, it has been given the name, "The Madrid Study".

http://www.naturalnews.com/029780_marijuana_cancer.html

"The study by Manuel Guzman of Madrid Spain found that cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana, inhibited tumor growth in laboratory animals by modulating key cell-signaling pathways and thus causing direct growth arrest and death of tumor cells. The study also found that cannabinoids inhibited angiogenesis and that cannabinoids were usually well tolerated and did not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional chemotherapies.

According to neurologist Dr. Ethan Russo, the Guzman study was very important because cancer cells become immortalized and fail to heed normal signals to turn off growth and die on cue. In addition, the other way that tumors grow is by sending out signals to promote angiogenesis, the growth of new blood vessels. Cannabinoids turn off these signals as well."


this research is not complete - how does an American with cancer obtain THC in injectable form ? it might be easier to contact Dr. Guzman in Spain and to go there for the treatment.

i'm also curious how the drug affects the patient. is it a humongous dose that leaves the patient in a stupor ?

Golden
13th January 2012, 11:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzJVT38pgFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzJVT38pgFE
Uploaded by connectingdots1 on Dec 27, 2011
Please research Ottoman Warburg and High pH Diet also have a look at Vitamin D ,The American and Canadian Cancer society recommend taking at least(MINIMUM) 1000 IU of Vit. D per day, but research shows that 10 000 IU/Day is proper levels to fight off Cancer.

And please stay away from sugars as they lower your pH levels which create a perfect growing environment for tumors and cancer growth.


Warburg investigated the metabolism of tumors and the respiration of cells, particularly cancer cells, and in 1931 was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology for his "discovery of the nature and mode of action of the respiratory enzyme."[2] The award came after receiving 46 nominations over a period of nine years beginning in 1923, 13 of which were submitted in 1931, the year he won the prize.[3]

In 1944, Warburg was nominated for a second Nobel Prize in Physiology by Albert Szent-Györgyi, for his work on nicotinamide, the mechanism and enzymes involved in fermentation, and the discovery of flavine (in yellow enzymes).[4][5] It is reported by some sources that he was selected to receive the award that year but was prevented from receiving it by Adolf Hitler's regime, which had issued a decree in 1937 that forbade Germans from accepting Nobel Prizes.

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from Journal of the American Medical Association:
"Marijuana users can breathe easier: Lung function not harmed in 20-year study.suggests a 20-year study that bolsters evidence that marijuana doesn't do the kind of damage tobacco does.
-British Journal of Cancer, "Cannabinoids induce growth inhibition & apoptosis (cell death) in prostate Cancer"
-Journal of the National Cancer Institute, "Cannabinoids, have been associated with anticarcinogenic effects"
-Queen Mary's School of Medicine & Dentistry in London England, "Cannabis destroys Cancer cells"
-Cancer Research UK, "(Cannabinoids) can slow growth & spread of Cancer cells or even kill them"

Golden
15th January 2012, 08:48 AM
Ron Paul and Mitt Romney Both Speak To Same Dying Medical Marijuana Patient

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPK6q-PSSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPK6q-PSSE
Uploaded by TheEricleeparker on Jan 14, 2012

Blink
15th January 2012, 09:09 AM
High alkaline food/water, colloidal silver, hemp oil (cannabinoids) and lots of vitamin D...................

letter_factory
15th January 2012, 12:41 PM
does the hemp oil have to have thc in it? they sell hemp oil where i live, but it doesn't have thc. I've always wanted to try it.

Blink
15th January 2012, 02:01 PM
does the hemp oil have to have thc in it? they sell hemp oil where i live, but it doesn't have thc. I've always wanted to try it.

http://ricksimpsonhempoil.blogspot.com/2011/02/cannabinoids-kill-cancer-and-our.html

http://www.thenhf.com/article.php?id=497

http://www.phoenixtearsplus.com/

Neuro
15th January 2012, 03:59 PM
Ron Paul and Mitt Romney Both Speak To Same Dying Medical Marijuana Patient

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPK6q-PSSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPK6q-PSSE
Uploaded by TheEricleeparker on Jan 14, 2012
So good! Mittens showed his true colors, as did Paul!