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DMac
20th August 2011, 04:02 PM
This is a step in the right direction. Too bad it's the "evil Venezuelans"! We could learn a thing or two!



Reformed Venezuelan Bank Law Separates Banks and Media (http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/5582)

Mérida, August 19th 2010 (Venezuelanalysis.com) – Yesterday, in an extraordinary sitting, the National Assembly passed a reform to the Bank Law which affirms that media owners and stock holders cannot manage banks. The law also slightly changed what institutions the law applies to so that the Sovereign People’s Bank (BPS) can be more accessible to communities. In a related matter, the National Assembly approved the nationalisation of an insurance company.

Previously, the BPS was regulated by its own internal rules; now it will come under Sudeban (the Superintendency of Banks and other Financial Institutions), will be incorporated into the National Financial System and will provide “socialised” banking where organised communities and individuals in communities can deposit, save, withdraw, and borrow from the bank, which will have “communal bank terminals” operated by locals.

The Chavez government founded the BPS in October 1999 as a bank that provided non-financial services such as training and micro financing to communities, small family companies and cooperatives, as part of a strategy to fight poverty.

Legislator Ricardo Sanguino said now the BPS would be able to cater to people who were previously excluded from the private banking system in what he called the “bankerisation” of the population.

The first “communal bank terminal,” in this case run by the National Bank of Venezuela, opened recently in the large barrio of La Vega in Caracas, and the government hopes to have them across the country by next year.

Members from the community can deposit up to BsF 1000 (US$ 232) at a time, and only other community members or organisations can withdraw, meaning that if members do not deposit or try to save, there will be little to withdraw.

Sanguino said it was a way to develop the communal economy of the barrio.

The bank will also provide very low interest loans (at below inflation rates) to communal councils, hopefully countering the bureaucracy that some communal councils have confronted when trying to get financial assistance from the government.

Legislator Ricardo Capella, said the reformed law and new status of BPS means that Venezuelans will be able to more directly manage their loans, rather than having to resort to third person loans with high interest rates. Such loans could be used to help the individuals or organised communities solve economic problems or start up productive initiatives.

Separation of Media and Financial Institutions

The other key change was a modification of article 12 of the law so that directors, share holders, and administrators of communication, information, or telecommunication companies are henceforth prohibited from holding such positions in banks, and vice versa.

The aim of the reform is to prevent bankers from using the media to hide or manipulate information for their own interests and against those of ordinary savers.

“The Bank Law... has been reformed in order to prevent what happened with the Federal Bank, whose owner [Nelson Mezerhane] was also a shareholder in the Globovision channel, through which he offered perks for his bank and attacked the competition. We want to avoid the savers being the new victims,” Sanguino said.

On 14 June the Superintendent of Banks took custody of the nation’s third largest bank, Banco Federal, after the bank failed to maintain minimum reserve levels and to meet legal quotas for productive sector investments.

Shortly after the intervention in Banco Federal by the government, Globovision “began a media campaign that sought to victimise the [bank] owners,” said legislator Mario Isea.

Isea explained that when information companies are controlled by bank owners, they can use deceptive offers to encourage citizens to deposit their savings in certain institutions.

Mezerhane fled the country soon after the government announced the takeover of the bank.

The National Assembly is also working on a new Law of Bank Activity and just recently passed the Stock Exchange Law, which decrees that stock brokers are not allowed to trade national public debt.

Insurance Company Expropriated

Yesterday the National Assembly also approved the forced expropriation of the insurance company Seguros la Previsora.

“Those who were running this company, what they did was generate losses, fraud, and embezzle resources obtained from the... different premiums and... hospital, surgery, maternity, possessions, and vehicle insurance,” Sanguino said.

He explained that for that reason, the state decided to intervene, and the National Assembly concluded that it could put the goods of the company and its affiliates to the service of the new National Socialist Network of Insurance and Mixed Social Assistance.

The Network aims to guarantee “fair access” to such services and create strategic alliances between them and other state organisations.

Eyebone
20th August 2011, 05:51 PM
Communism is not new.

Glass
20th August 2011, 06:29 PM
Communism is not new.

I think they are trying to block Crime-unism from getting a hold down there.

Eyebone
20th August 2011, 06:49 PM
I think they are trying to block Crime-unism from getting a hold down there.

They have a completely infantile mind in charge of a country, it's interesting for that reason.

DMac
21st August 2011, 05:18 PM
They have a completely infantile mind in charge of a country, it's interesting for that reason.

Infantile? Let me guess, Ahmadinejad is just another moron/baby as well?

This is an excellent ruling. One the US is in desperate need of implementing.

You must have some chip on your shoulder against Chavez. 2 threads mentioning Venezuela and you pop in as if you buy the western propaganda hook, line and sinker.

osoab
21st August 2011, 05:28 PM
Infantile? Let me guess, Ahmadinejad is just another moron/baby as well?

This is an excellent ruling. One the US is in desperate need of implementing.

You must have some chip on your shoulder against Chavez. 2 threads mentioning Venezuela and you pop in as if you buy the western propaganda hook, line and sinker.


I think it is a ruse. I don't know what for unfortunately. Only thing I can think of, is that now that the bank is "local" they are just going to take deposits and restrict withdrawals.
Members from the community can deposit up to BsF 1000 (US$ 232) at a time, and only other community members or organisations can withdraw, meaning that if members do not deposit or try to save, there will be little to withdraw.

It is stated at the beginning that Chaves created this bank in 1999.
Why would the rules be changed on his own bank?

DMac
21st August 2011, 05:31 PM
I think it is a ruse. I don't know what for unfortunately. Only thing I can think of, is that now that the bank is "local" they are just going to take deposits and restrict withdrawals.

It is stated at the beginning that Chaves created this bank in 1999.
Why would the rules be changed on his own bank?


This is the piece of the legislation I am concerned with:


Separation of Media and Financial Institutions

The other key change was a modification of article 12 of the law so that directors, share holders, and administrators of communication, information, or telecommunication companies are henceforth prohibited from holding such positions in banks, and vice versa.

The aim of the reform is to prevent bankers from using the media to hide or manipulate information for their own interests and against those of ordinary savers.

I have not researched the history or benefits of the first part that you mention.

osoab
21st August 2011, 05:37 PM
This is the piece of the legislation I am concerned with:


Separation of Media and Financial Institutions

The other key change was a modification of article 12 of the law so that directors, share holders, and administrators of communication, information, or telecommunication companies are henceforth prohibited from holding such positions in banks, and vice versa.

The aim of the reform is to prevent bankers from using the media to hide or manipulate information for their own interests and against those of ordinary savers.

I have not researched the history or benefits of the first part that you mention.

Even that I have issue with DMac.

If I was Venezuelan, I could not own some shares (let's say 1000) in a teevee company and own another 100 shares in my local bank.

I believe this will stifle business and the free market.

Something deeper has to be going on with this law in Venezuela.

DMac
21st August 2011, 05:41 PM
I think Venezuela is doing its best to get foreign ownership out of the country. It reminds me of Chile & Allende.

Don't we all agree (Ron Paul has mentioned it IIRC) that there is a serious issue with the MIC (which included banksters) owning the media?

osoab
21st August 2011, 05:50 PM
I think Venezuela is doing its best to get foreign ownership out of the country. It reminds me of Chile & Allende.

Don't we all agree (Ron Paul has mentioned it IIRC) that there is a serious issue with the MIC (which included banksters) owning the media?

Why not expose and prosecute the crime and not stifle choices?

I understand where you are coming from, but I am only looking at this as Venezuela proper. Why would Chaves (assuming he has the power I think he has) want this? He could pull foreign ownership willy nilly.

This seems as a way to keep the businessmen in the country out of certain investments to prevent them from expressing their voice/opinions.

DMac
21st August 2011, 06:04 PM
Interesting perspective osoab. I think it ends up having the opposite effect. By preventing the bankers from owning the media, actual news.

For example, when the Bush coup attempt to oust Chavez failed, the major media company, http://www.cisneros.com/, used the airwaves to lambast Chavez and spout CIA propaganda.

Some further info:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4576


I see this as another attack against the oilgarchs in Venezuela - a group that has been friendly to Morgan, Rock, Kissinger et al for decades.

Extreme times call for extreme measures.

Globovision could before this, use its airtime to call for more bailouts of bad banker behavior. This will no longer be possible with the new law.

More on Cisneros:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_1001club02.htm


Latin America's billionaire media baron. Knight of Malta. Chairman and CEO of the Cisneros Group of Companies (prominent in Puerto Rico the U.S. Virgin Islands), which has large stakes in companies like Univision, AOL Latin America, DirecTV Latin America, and a score of other media companies. Member of the board of international directors at the United World Colleges in London, which is presided over by HRH Prince Charles. Trustee of the Rockefeller University and in general a friend of the Rockefellers. PR Newswire, May 4, 1992: "Cisneros, a Venezuelan native, is a member of the International Advisory Committee of the Chase Manhattan Bank, the Chairman's Council of the Americas Society and the International Advisory Council of the United States Information Agency. He is also a member of the board of overseers of the International Center for Economic Growth and the International Advisory Board of the Power Corporation of Canada. His other memberships include, but are not limited to, the International Advertising Association, the board of directors of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences in the U.S., and The 1001: A Nature Trust for the World Wildlife Fund in Switzerland."

He is an outspoken critic of Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, whom he criticizes for "arrogant abuse of power and authority." In turn, Chavez accuses him of complicity in the April 2002 coup attempt (on Chavez) and of using his private TV station Venevision to undermine the administration, accusations Cisneros vehemently denies. Luckily for Cisneros, about 80% of his holdings are outside Venezuela. A socialite, Cisneros hobnobs with U.S. friends such as Jimmy Carter and George Bush Sr. Guests at his daughter's lavish New York wedding reception in October 2002 included Kofi Annan, Sid Bass and Oscar de la Renta. He also ran BIOMA, a leading Venezuelan "environmentalist group" shut down after being caught faking dolphin killings for a campaign against the tuna fishing industry. Early in 1994, the family bank, Banco Latino, in Caracas, went broke after it was charged with fraud. His brother Ricardo, one of the directors, was fugitive for years until caught and sent to jail. Cisneros has received Spain's Order of Isabel la Católica, conferred by His Majesty King Juan Carlos I (also a 1001 Club member and Knights of Malta), for strengthening international ties between Venezuela and Spain.

DMac
21st August 2011, 06:10 PM
Why not expose and prosecute the crime and not stifle choices?

Why would Chaves (assuming he has the power I think he has) want this? He could pull foreign ownership willy nilly.

This seems as a way to keep the businessmen in the country out of certain investments to prevent them from expressing their voice/opinions.

This point you're making is where my 'libertarian' side runs into logical difficulties.

Oligarchs are not removed willy nilly, no matter who is dictator. You don't become an oligarch without serious power behind you. Disposing an oligarch can only be done through massive oligarchal help - see USSR-Russia via Putin and Zion.

I don't buy the "retard dictator" stuff. Nearly wiping out illiteracy in Venezuela is not something done without real effort and work, with popular support. Enacting a law like this is an actual stepping stone in the right direction.

I equate media ownership and bank ownership to be very similar to something like AIPAC and Congress. He is striking a root. The logic in your post is a defense of AIPAC the way I've read it.

osoab
22nd August 2011, 06:41 PM
I went over the article again. It still doesn't sit well with me. A few quotes.


The National Assembly is also working on a new Law of Bank Activity and just recently passed the Stock Exchange Law, which decrees that stock brokers are not allowed to trade national public debt. Scared?


On 14 June the Superintendent of Banks took custody of the nation’s third largest bank, Banco Federal, after the bank failed to maintain minimum reserve levels and to meet legal quotas for productive sector investments. What quotas?


I can understand that globovision is a dirtbag company. As I recall Chavez's current nationalization schemes, why would these moves not be under the same pretenses? A broke country going after assets that are owned by others (specifically not Venezuelans).

These same measures could also be used against the little guys on the street that happen to have money in different areas. These little guys are the ones who employ the most and would be the most affected by these moves.

I don't believe that Chavez was impotent to shutting down a mega media station. I also think that a country of literate people could understand the wool being pulled over them if that was the case. So why the need to "protect" the people?