View Full Version : Fedz.. Here. Now. Really.
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 07:23 AM
I am SO pissed off right now. I won’t be quiet about this anymore. This has turned out to me a multi-layered story. I will lay it out in the order that I became aware of it. I have yet to reach a conclusion but I fear that this is bigger than it looks on the surface. Bear in mind – this may be somewhat hard to follow because I’m trying to keep this short and I’m being careful about what I write here and… well… just NOT saying some things.
Sunday afternoon, my wife received a text from one of the community mother hens that there was a manhunt being initiated in a wooded area just outside of my town.
To my recollection … it was something to the effect of “big bald guy…ex-mil… armed and dangerous… child rapist…. Anti-government…… they found a grenade launcher in his house.”
So in my mind I began quickly to turn over the possibilities mentally. Hmm… Spook gone off his rocker? MKU1TR@ type on the run for whatever reason? Bona-fide crazy nut? Randy Weaver 2.0? In my AO? WTF?
SO I jumped online to see if there was any news on it and find out that the fedz have set up a friggin mobile command unit a mile from my house.
Now I’m agitated. I have the fedz playing cowboys and Indians in my back yard.
What I found online chilled me to the bone. First, the msm news story:
Search underway for accused child molester in Sealy (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8319003)
Then I came across the “suspect’s” you-tube acct. Many of you will know and recognize this guy as “july4partiot” Or.. the Marine in the skull mask with the Gadsden background.
http://www.youtube.com/user/July4Patriot
OK- at this point I realize that we may be looking at a guy that the fedz feared was becoming too much of a “node” for the patriot movement. They set him up? Sure… they do that all the time.
I’m gonna skim over this really quick for brevity but there is an elaborate history on his channel.
I saw this guy’s vids when he first came on the scene but I have not followed him in the last 2 years. So there on his channel (which is still up- red flag) he lays out his case- the fedz did indeed set him up according to his recorded and readily available testimony. Here it is in a nutshell:
He was accused of raping his 6yo (step?) daughter. First trial was a mistrial. Somewhere in there the fedz said they found a stolen m-203 GL in his house. He “proves” that to be a bogus accusation. – jump ahead to present. New trial date set for some time this week (week of 8-21). His house is burnt down last week- along with all evidence to exonerate him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjY_NXqKA1Q&feature=player_embedded
He runs – seeing no other option. Wouldn’t you?
I’d say that’s enough to suck any patriot in. Hell… I – nevermind.
I was angry that with all this history available- my local LEO’s so quickly jumped in bed w/ the fedz to hunt down this dangerous fugitive. *&^%*% BRAINLESS MEAT HEAD BUBBAS! GAAAAAA!!!
ETA: when was the last time you saw such a manhunt for a guy that skipped trial? (flag)
Anyway- all that on its face is enough to get truth seeker types up in arms.
And here is where the more sinister possibility enters.
Remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiCdMFB2iPw&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiCdMFB2iPw&feature=player_embedded)
We’ll call that another red flag.
Back to J4P -- All this “evidence” A complete history of a patriot internet sensation – there for all to see. It’s enough to set us all on edge at the very least (and I’ll omit the “at the very worse” part for obvious reasons.) Are we being actively goaded into doing obviously JUST what they want? Or what some faction wants?
This is critical. It’s Possible. It fits and well... it could be considered a shit load of red flags. Watch this.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/7025473/charles_dyer_manhunt_exposed/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/7025473/charles_dyer_manhunt_exposed/)
Stand fast.
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 07:34 AM
I apologize for the melodramatic thread title... Just really wanted ya'll to see this.
I did what I could, as I said, to be careful with words and still convey the point.
Please do the same if you choose to respond. avoid ke y w urdz.
This is too close to home for me - in the most literal sense.
sirgonzo420
23rd August 2011, 07:40 AM
wow.
That's pretty crazy.
Be careful... and try not to act too weird (as in, weird to "normal" people), lest they think you're hiding him!
O.O
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 07:49 AM
Just to add a couple things... for all to see.
My stance is that anything is possible. Either possibility is repugnant. I am in no position to do anything about either possibility- other than discuss from an academic standpoint. I have no intention of impeding or assisting the .gov because frankly there are too many unanswered questions.
Santa
23rd August 2011, 07:55 AM
Great thread... I think your reasoning is pretty much right on. Get singled out on a charge like that, and you really can't win.
Further off in the not too distant future I smell martial law coming.
DMac
23rd August 2011, 08:25 AM
Stuff like this puts a bad taste in my mouth. At some point in the not too distant future posting on forums like these will lead to a knock on the front door.
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 08:38 AM
On the one hand... I understand... on the other... People are beginning to stick their necks out.
This time was bound to come.
It's truly a shame if we can't even talk. :(
LastResort
23rd August 2011, 08:39 AM
Stuff like this puts a bad taste in my mouth. At some point in the not too distant future posting on forums like these will lead to a knock on the front door.
We are all likely on some sort of a list.
DMac
23rd August 2011, 08:41 AM
We are all likely on some sort of a list.
Sometimes I wish we all were hanging out in a bar and could discuss this with more detail.
Likely? I'm 100% certain.
vacuum
23rd August 2011, 08:54 AM
We are all likely on some sort of a list.
Likely? I'm 100% certain.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/memberlist.php
(couldn't resist)
vacuum
23rd August 2011, 08:56 AM
I haven't reviewed this guy's yt channel yet, but did he advocate any type of violence or revolution?
chad
23rd August 2011, 09:00 AM
i'm down with crazy, but those people in the metafilter video are obviously different people. most of them don't even look remotely "the same."
k-os
23rd August 2011, 09:08 AM
i'm down with crazy, but those people in the metafilter video are obviously different people. most of them don't even look remotely "the same."
Whew, glad I wasn't the only one!
I was thinking the same thing. I understand paranoia. If you are a doomer, you are naturally paranoid to begin with . . . but the guy who made the video is off the charts. When he showed the ear "exactly the same" - that guy had a completely different face. I wanted to see the conspiracy, really I did.
Also, some of the people that he said were the same were at least a dozen years age difference.
sunshine05
23rd August 2011, 09:11 AM
Where do you get the information that there was evidence that would exonerate him in the house? I'm curious what that may be?
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 09:12 AM
i'm down with crazy, but those people in the metafilter video are obviously different people. most of them don't even look remotely "the same."
THIS was the kind of discussion I was looking for.
Yeah- you'd have to be down with crazy... This guy is theorizing that these are pro spooks- ink black. Long term op. Disguises, acting, plastic surgery- the works. We are not even talking on the order of a shill here. What I think he's getting at they have created characters to be set up as.... I dont know- a hero(?) among patriots to be taken down as a show - and to provoke something.
Yeah - some of his examples didn't look like they could be what he was presenting - I thought a few of them (3) could be enough to support his case.
But as I said- we are seeing 2 possible scenarios here- and NEITHER of them is anything good.
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 09:15 AM
Where do you get the information that there was evidence that would exonerate him in the house? I'm curious what that may be?
That was from memory- sorry. I believe it was from one of his "supporters" channels. I'll call that hearsay- but it fits the flow of events.
I've looked at a lot of stuff over the course of this so bear with me
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 09:17 AM
I haven't reviewed this guy's yt channel yet, but did he advocate any type of violence or revolution?
Honestly - I focused on his talks where he detailed his court cases.
But from what I know - ideologically yes. Practically not so sure.
osoab
23rd August 2011, 09:23 AM
Go take the FEDZ some lemonaid, and thank them for their hard work. ;D
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 09:25 AM
throwing this out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7rm-6EFGM0&feature=related
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 09:31 AM
I mean LOOK at this... This is total cointelpro
from the comments on j4p's page
AynarchyNow (13 hours ago)
Spam (http://www.youtube.com/user/July4Patriot#)
If the pigs kill SGT Dyer, SOMEONE will just have to kill some pigs.
Be sure to forward that hypothetical to your federal cock handlers. It's so much easier tracking your targets when they're being maimed by well-hidden booby traps.
And while it IS your "america" today, it won't be for long.
sunshine05
23rd August 2011, 09:51 AM
I read a little about this and did read that the mother had a relative living with them with a history of child molestation. Also, she accused him right after they divorced. I believe it's very likely he was framed on those charges. I can't find a lot of information on his trial.
Then I saw that they arrested someone for the fire. Did you see that?
gunDriller
23rd August 2011, 10:09 AM
Great thread... I think your reasoning is pretty much right on. Get singled out on a charge like that, and you really can't win.
Further off in the not too distant future I smell martial law coming.
compared to the stereotype examples like pre-WW2 Germany & Soviet Russia - Martial Law is already here.
i didn't hear about raw milk drinkers getting busted in Germany or Russia.
i didn't hear about hemp users or growers getting arrested in Germany or Russia.
how many people are in American prisons on non-violent offenses ?
then they have to release violent offenders to make room for - whoever.
but if you have an undeserved felony on your record - what happens when you try to buy a gun ?
oh ... and old folks wearing diapers & 5 to 10 years olds didn't get groped by the guards when they travelled in pre-WW2 Germany & Russia.
not to mention - neither the German government nor the Russian government allowed a foreign government to blow up 3 humongous sky-scrapers in a large city, as the US did on 9-11.
in the US, "Martial Law" is a present tense phrase.
to top it off - in the US, as in Soviet Russia, the guards report to criminal Jews/ Talmud-worshippers.
hoarder
23rd August 2011, 10:22 AM
The more they use "alleged child rapist" and "pedophile" to isolate or silence patriots, the less effective it becomes. There are too many of us for this tactic to accomplish anything other than make examples of a few.
It really looks to me that our rulers are very afraid of a revolution. Guilty conscience, maybe?
Libertytree
23rd August 2011, 10:31 AM
If our rulers are afraid they're afraid of the silent masses that don't say much or anything but are more than ready and willing to aid the revolution.
Twisted Titan
23rd August 2011, 11:06 AM
I hope the best for this guy......
its a sad day to watch your brother or sister get crucifeid and all you can do is just stand pat and watch because the time is not yet ripe
JJ.G0ldD0t
23rd August 2011, 02:26 PM
Just came across this letter written just before he fled. It's kind of grainy but I was able to make it out. It details why he fled.
Email Sent to his attorney and addressed to the court and public...
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/1108/Dyer%20Email.pdf
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/1108/Dyer%20Email%202.pdf
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/1108/Dyer%20Email%203.pdf
MAGNES
23rd August 2011, 07:01 PM
Stuff like this puts a bad taste in my mouth. At some point in the not too distant future posting on forums like these will lead to a knock on the front door.
They are going after leaders, harassing activists, bloggers, the FBI
is visiting peoples homes and asking questions, " do you know anyone
that would do violence ", just for showing up at a protest, their very
presence and questions are an indirect threat, they let you know you
are being watched, for posting, too many people posting for them to
do anything, unless you have a following, I wouldn't put it past the FEDs
to go after people like this guy, they got nothing better to do, the most disturbing
aspects are seeing the ADL and SPLC working with the FEDs/police picking
their targets based on political ideology and working against free speech,
they play dirty, they got lots of motivated little nut cases working for them,
they don't need orders, they are all on the same page.
DHS partners with Jewish organizations - TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/165867-homeland-security-partners-with-jewish-organizations)
FBI pays visit to blogger as potential "threat" - FBI - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/fbi/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/01/14/fbi_questions_blogger_critic)
FBI infiltrator prepared government raid on antiwar groups in Minneapolis and Chicago (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/fbir-j26.shtml)
Capitol Police Compiling Lists of ‘Threats’ to Congressmen -- News from Antiwar.com (http://news.antiwar.com/2011/01/14/capitol-police-compiling-lists-of-threats-to-congressmen/)
No U-Turns on the Road to Serfdom? by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com (http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/01/23/no-u-turns-on-the-road-to-serfdom/)
Whistleblower’s home raided by armed FDLE agents : Liberty Underground (http://1787network.com/?p=295)
Activist Post: Breaking: Newly Obtained Homeland Security Documents Reveal Radical Shift In Internet Policy (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/breaking-newly-obtained-homeland.html)
LuckyStrike
23rd August 2011, 07:27 PM
I haven't read through this entire thread but I remember reading in Gulag Archipelago that when one of the prisoners escaped the Soviets would put word out that he was a rapist or pedophile or some such so that people would rat the person out.
I hate the government, they are a state sponsor of rape and murder abroad, I'm not saying I'd hide some stranger but I sure as hell wouldn't give the government any help.
JJ.G0ldD0t
24th August 2011, 08:38 AM
Last night I drove by the place where the fedz had the mob com center.
They were gone - and I believe that J4P got away. Glad to see all the JBT hardware GONE.
http://duncanbanner.com/local/x1592795700/Dryer-manhunt-focuses-on-Texas
Extending a search that first took Federal Bureau of Investigation agents to Texas on Sunday, the hunt for Dyer shifted Monday from Austin County to neighboring Ford Bend County.
Federal investigators were checking into information Dyer may have been seen near Sealy, Texas, but on Monday, FBI agents, members of the Texas Department of Public Safety and law officers from Fort Bend County were drawn to the town of Wallis. The relocation was prompted by reports from several Wallis-are residents that a man fitting Dyer’s description was knocking on doors asking for a ride to Houston.
On Monday evening, investigators were searching an area near railroad tracks along Texas State Highway 36, which stretches to Rosenberg, Texas.
I drove HWY 36 yesterday- Passed 5 DPS and 3 county.
I put my seatbelt on. I usually don't..:D
sunshine05
24th August 2011, 09:41 AM
Thanks for the update. I hope he is okay.
JJ.G0ldD0t
29th August 2011, 07:23 AM
They caught him.. I didn't follow it much after last Wednesday - but from what I heard he was picked up last week. He was following the river bottom which gets into some pretty populated areas as you move south... he was spotted I guess... but I'm gonna see if I can find anymore about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldzEnKx5qKM&feature=fvst
JJ.G0ldD0t
29th August 2011, 07:38 AM
uhh oh lol
He screwed up.... A week of running in this heat is enough to fry anybody's brain I guess. Cheeze burgers an Cherry Lime aides!
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Fugitive-captured-in-Texas-returned-to-Oklahoma-2145055.php
DUNCAN, Okla. (AP) — A Marlow man who failed to show up for his trial on a child sexual abuse charge has been returned to Oklahoma after being captured in Texas.
Stephens County Sheriff Wayne McKinney (http://www.chron.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Wayne+McKinney%22) told newspapers that he and two deputies brought Charles Dyer (http://www.chron.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=news&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Charles+Dyer%22) back to Stephens County on Friday.
"I flew down to Texas with two deputies and took him (Dyer) into custody," McKinney told the Duncan Banner. "We tried to keep this as quiet as possible, because the FBI asked us not to talk about it until we got him back."
The FBI had joined the search for Dyer after receiving information that he had crossed state lines.
McKinney said Dyer seemed worn down from his flight that included nearly a week hiding in and near the Brazos River.
"He said, 'Sheriff, I didn't think you'd send that many men after me,'" McKinney told The Lawton Constitution.
Dyer hadn't been seen since Aug. 12 and failed to appear for the Aug. 15 start of his trial in Stephens County. He had pleaded not guilty to the child sexual abuse charge after his first trial ended in a mistrial in April.
He was arrested Thursday morning near Richmond, Texas, by a Fort Bend County, Texas, deputy sheriff who responded to a call from a resident that Dyer was seen leaving a fast food restaurant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3luvuBsDoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2x4J-d2KD8&NR=1
Awoke
8th September 2011, 06:54 AM
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/7025473/charles_dyer_manhunt_exposed/[/URL][/SIZE]
Stand fast.
This is amazing so far. It should be noted that the first 8 minutes is blah blah blah though.
The look-alike @ 12:55 is not really on point IMO, and the part about "Sonya's husband is the other guy with a nose job" is off, but the rest of the actors and look-alikes are uncanny. It looks like a fabricated set up.
I don't know how I missed this thread. I found it because I was looking at Gonzo's posts, because I wanted to post a picture for him, but I'll just post it here, even though it's out of context.
http://files.sharenator.com/photo_1230743974_Hunter_Thompson_mots-s500x424-97620-580.png
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