jesse livermore, suicide or???

[Large Sarge]

I have read some of his history "reminisecence of a stock operator"

Sinclair has talked about him, since his dad was friends with him, said Jesse suffered from depression, and that caused his suicide.

So anyway, was browsing ziopedia earlier on him.

look at this entry....


On March 28, 1933, Livermore married 38 year old Harriet Metz Noble in Geneva, Illinois; there was no honeymoon. It was Harriet's fifth marriage; all four of her previous husbands had committed suicide.[10]


On November 28, 1940, Livermore shot and killed himself in the cloakroom of the Sherry Netherland Hotel in Manhattan. The police revealed that there was a suicide note of eight small handwritten pages in Livermore's personal notebook. It was reported in the November 30 issue of the New York Tribune.[13] The press wanted to know what it said, and the police tersely responded: “There was a leather-bound memo book found in Mr. Livermore's pocket. It was addressed to his wife.” A police spokesman read from the notebook: “My dear Nina: Can’t help it. Things have been bad with me. I am tired of fighting. Can’t carry on any longer. This is the only way out. I am unworthy of your love. I am a failure. I am truly sorry, but this is the only way out for me. Love Laurie”.[14]



So was it really a suicide?

5 years after he marries a lady 30 years younger than him, whose previous 4 husbands have all committed suicide, Jesse follows them to the grave....

A guy who had made and lost (billions in todays dollars) fortunes...

things that make you go hmmm???

[Glass]

certainly is food for thought. I bought a book about Jessie called trade like Jessie Livermore. Doesn't have any secret techniques to expose. Seems Jessie was a thorough business man who always did his DD and he understood the trends and traded accordingly. These days his methodology is used by black boxes everywhere and at speeds many multiples faster than any man could trade at but at that time and at that place his method was well suited to the floor trading markets of old.

For someone who has lost as much as he did and on several occasions it seems hard to imagine he would bail out but I can understand if you lost a fortune and you thought it was the last one you would accumulate before retiring it could be distressing. Sometimes it can get exhausting and people wonder to themselves what they have been doing.

I will point out that we are going to see a huge rush of people within the retirement window exiting stage left because they just don't have anything after a lifetime of hard slog. Certainly not enough to get them through retirement.

[PatColo]

Early 90s I read "How To Make Money In Stocks" by William O'Neil, founder of Investors Business Daily. He advocates what's commonly known as "momentum investing", buy high sell higher, and I believe he credited Livermore with being a pioneer of the method- though O'Neil refined it with specific stock attributes to look for, both fundamental & technical, and his IBD newspaper gave proprietary measures comparing all stocks against all other stocks to make zeroing in on the winners easier... using the "CANSLIM" method spelled out in O'Neil's book.

I later read Livermore's "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator", but I recall I didn't learn much new from it at that point, given that I'd already been immersed in the momentum method for a couple years by then.

[Large Sarge]

just makes me wonder, 4 previous husbands all committed suicide....?

sounds kind of fishy to me....

back in those days, getting certain items was relatively easy....

the old story of the physically abused wife putting a few drops of arsenic in the husbands morning coffee, everyday.... might take a few years to hit him... and most would miss the diagnosis, thinking heart attack, or?

so I am wondering if she was feeding him something to help him along,

wonder what his life insurance policy was?

[Canadian-guerilla]

" by way of deception "

if mossad agents today willingly entrap their prey with sex/blackmail, why not marriage

although back then, it may have been irgun / lehi operatives

[Bigjon]

Was Jesse a member of the tribe? Or an outsider?

[Large Sarge]

Was Jesse a member of the tribe? Or an outsider?

not sure, but one of his his best friend's was bernard baruch, big time zionist jew.... (although baruch was a fellow speculator)

so its hard to say, did they meet on the exchange, or at the synagogue?

[optionT]

Bump

http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2013/3/2_Jim_Sinclair.html


Was listening to this interview and Livermore was very briefly mentioned and think he was bumped off by his wife. Did he cross someone and get bumped off? Its absurd that this woman had 5 husbands and all 5 commited suicide.
Who is this woman?!?!