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Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 10:31 AM
No comments as of yet....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4J0nS8BVDA&feature=email

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 10:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4J0nS8BVDA&feature=email

Dogman
25th August 2011, 10:38 AM
Sorcha Faal

mick silver
25th August 2011, 10:40 AM
i posted on this the other day the sound i hear in this vid is the same i heard here . i got up with my gun and went outside , the time i got out side it had stop . plus there nothing around here that could make the noise i heard . dam what going on

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 10:43 AM
i posted on this the other day the sound i hear in this vid is the same i heard here . i got up with my gun and went outside , the time i got out side it had stop . plus there nothing around here that could make the noise i heard . dam what going on



Where r u at?


I do think there are tunnels,

mick silver
25th August 2011, 10:45 AM
ky ... like i said i have never heard a sound like this before .

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 10:54 AM
maybe the military decided to retaliate against the cIA for 9/11?

Alan Sabrosky said there were a lot of pissed off folks in the pentagon.....

mick silver
25th August 2011, 10:56 AM
http://piglipstick.blogspot.com/2011/08/alternative-earthquake-explanations.html

Spectrism
25th August 2011, 10:58 AM
Vast network of tunnels under the US.... yeah.... sure. That sounds like somebody messin with you... or Soviet paranoia.

Where did they put all the earth and rocks they removed? There would have to be entire mountain ridges of new earth and rock for the tunnel displacement. And how would they deal with the water table? They cannot even make a tunnel in Boston without leaking 1.4 million gallons of water per month.

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 11:00 AM
Jim McCanney has covered it,

he is honest, and usually reliable....

Canadian-guerilla
25th August 2011, 11:02 AM
anyone else think the voice in the video is computer generated ?

Dogman
25th August 2011, 11:05 AM
Vast network of tunnels under the US.... yeah.... sure. That sounds like somebody messin with you... or Soviet paranoia.

Where did they put all the earth and rocks they removed? There would have to be entire mountain ridges of new earth and rock for the tunnel displacement. And how would they deal with the water table? They cannot even make a tunnel in Boston without leaking 1.4 million gallons of water per month.


Well reports around the world is that the sea levels have been rising! All of that material in the oceans will displace a bunch of water! :p

842

mick silver
25th August 2011, 11:14 AM
whats the best way to get people spenting money ... Earthquake

mick silver
25th August 2011, 11:29 AM
didnt they just build a new airport a few years back in Colorado the dirt could be moved by train , trucks . around here they move dirt to fill in if there building some thing . in New Orleans they build new sea walls didnt they were alll that dirt come from . just thinking out loud

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 04:48 PM
August 25, 2011 posting ... word just in with seismic reports showing definitive evidence that the august 23, 2011 earth quake on the east coast of the US was man made and caused by a nuclear explosion deep underground in what appears to be virgiuia ... more on this in coming days as i will investigate ... the sources also state that CIA/MOSSAD were responsible (as i have stated previously as have others that the japanese EQs were detonations and not natural) ... when are we going to put a stop to these thugs and criminals that have been pulling false flag and more recently "natural" events and clearly using the resources of the USA federal government and military ... be sure to catch my show live tonight or if you miss the live show then listen to the show on the archive sub-page as soon as the live broadcast is over ... jim mccanney

nunaem
25th August 2011, 04:56 PM
Sorcha Faal

Sorcha Fail

PatColo
25th August 2011, 05:13 PM
FWIW "Patriot of Dubious Repute" Steve Quayle (http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html) is reporting this too - based on "seismic records" and word from his "seekrit sources",

Seismic monitors and intel agents have come forth about multiple nuclear devices being intercepted and exploded underground in Virginia and Colorado, that were destined to destroy countless lives and generate a massive martial law lockdown in this country. What remains unseen to most is a group that I have named the "Mighty Men and Women of Valor", who are responsible for saving the lives of tens of millions of Americans. They fight in secret and die in secret giving their lives that others may live. They deal with things that go "bump in the night" that would cause our hearts to fail, who at this very moment, are holding the line against those things coming upon the earth from deep underground hives, star gates and outer space-not to mention the fallen angels and their earthly accomplices that have put their human race ending plan in motion. more (http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/11_Global/110825.Steve.thanks.html)




Seismic Evidence Reveals Underground Nuclear Detonation South of Washington: Seismology charts are now revealing that the 5.8 magnitude tremor that rattled the entire East Coast including Washington DC was not a natural earthquake but an earthquake that resulted from an underground nuclear detonation. The image above is a seismograph from Washington and Lee University, (similar one found on www2.tricities.com website) about 85 miles southwest of the earthquake’s epicenter in Mineral. The green lines indicates the tremor that was felt in Washington DC which caused damaged to the Washington Memorial and the Washington National Cathedral. The black lines is a transparent overlay of a seismograph from a pdf file from Virginia Division Mineral Resources on Earthquakes. more (http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4009)

Nuclear Detonation Confirmed? I went to my source today and they have confirm that the earthquake today with the epicenter in Virginia was a tactical nuke that did go off in an underground bunker. The mighty men and women of valor found the device and had to explode it underground. The target was the nuclear facility located in Virginia. I also received clarification that their were seven weapons on the mainland. Five were being tracked (now just four since one was detonated) and two that they cannot account for at this time. These two are from the "shadow" group that they are trying to find. more (http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/11_Global/110825.alert.nukes.html)

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 05:18 PM
Bill Cooper talked about "mt weather", where the shadow govt was housed, cannot remember if it was west virginia or virginia. Also the NSA headquarters are in a rough area around there, and rumor has it that they are literally underground.....

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 05:47 PM
remember the air force base in Montana (or North Dakota)?

All the crew started dropping dead.....

didn't they lose 2 nuclear weapons on that run?

we had some threads on here (or the old site) about it

osoab
25th August 2011, 06:05 PM
remember the air force base in Montana (or North Dakota)?

All the crew started dropping dead.....

didn't they lose 2 nuclear weapons on that run?

we had some threads on here (or the old site) about it
Minot in ND

Canadian-guerilla
25th August 2011, 06:12 PM
i wonder if .gov is gonna open a new shill division for this " conspiracy theory "


i'll post it over at GIM2 and find out

midnight rambler
25th August 2011, 06:12 PM
Vast network of tunnels under the US.... yeah.... sure. That sounds like somebody messin with you... or Soviet paranoia.

Where did they put all the earth and rocks they removed? There would have to be entire mountain ridges of new earth and rock for the tunnel displacement. And how would they deal with the water table? They cannot even make a tunnel in Boston without leaking 1.4 million gallons of water per month.

Then certainly you have a reasonable explanation for this -

http://forteanswest.com/wordpress-mu/arizonalowfi/files/2009/12/11-174-AF-boring-machine.jpg

or this -

http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000005477/images/tbm_parents.jpg

or this -

http://www.projectcamelot.org/tunnel_boring_machine_3.jpg

Large Sarge
25th August 2011, 06:25 PM
I seem to remember hearing that it was nuclear powered,

Golden
25th August 2011, 06:28 PM
The bore machine drills and builds a waterproof concrete ringed tunnel as it goes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41vzLjwZqM

Unless...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frRjcHUB23k

Cebu_4_2
25th August 2011, 06:28 PM
Yes, I read that also.

vacuum
25th August 2011, 10:22 PM
So was there really a russian military report or was that part just completely made up by Sorcha Fail?

BabushkaLady
25th August 2011, 10:46 PM
Did anyone happen to notice the Latitude of the three earthquakes in the US this week?? They're all near the 37 degree. This was the first thing I noticed as Iris is my homepage to look at earthquake activity every day.


DATE and TIME (UTC) LAT-ITUDE LONG-ITUDE MAG-NITUDE DEPTH km REGION
25-AUG-2011 05:07:50 37.94 -77.90 4.5 5.0 VIRGINIA
24-AUG-2011 00:04:36 37.92 -77.89 4.2 7.8 VIRGINIA
23-AUG-2011 17:51:04 37.94 -77.94 5.8 6.0 VIRGINIA

DATE and TIME (UTC) LAT-ITUDE LONG-ITUDE MAG-NITUDE DEPTH km REGION
23-AUG-2011 05:46:19 37.14 -104.67 5.5 4.9 COLORADO
22-AUG-2011 23:30:20 37.05 -104.77 4.6 5.0 COLORADO

24-AUG-2011 11:59:51 37.54 -118.87 4.4 9.8 CALIFORNIA-NEVADA BORDER REGION
14-AUG-2011 19:27:02 41.03 -125.33 4.1 2.5 OFF COAST OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/

Hum. Yes--very interesting.

Large Sarge
26th August 2011, 05:12 AM
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/08/25/video-russia-reports-nuclear-explosions-hit-vast-us-military-tunnel-network/

Canadian-guerilla
26th August 2011, 05:17 AM
Sorcha Fail

i think SF serves a useful purpose for TPTB

SF is first on the scene of a conspiracy theory
everyone calls SF bullsh*t, and everything after that is suspect

maybe, TPTB are telling us what they did, thru SF

PatColo
26th August 2011, 06:23 AM
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/08/25/video-russia-reports-nuclear-explosions-hit-vast-us-military-tunnel-network/

notice that pakalertpress re-print doesn't accredit an author, only says at the end: 'Source (http://whatdoesitmean.com/index1514.htm)'. Pakalertpress posts many interesting stories; I don't know why they're so coy about it when they propagate SFaal's stuff (always leaving out the "By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers" part...).

As to the narration in the OP, yes it's computer generated. They've gotten much better at that in recent years, with the voice using realistic intonations at different parts of a given sentence, more resembling the way people speak. AI stuff... I guess having a synthesized voice recite Faal's article for the youtube version, adds to the Faal mystique...


i think SF serves a useful purpose for TPTB

SF is first on the scene of a conspiracy theory
everyone calls SF bullsh*t, and everything after that is suspect

maybe, TPTB are telling us what they did, thru SF

Faal in May '11,

‘Alien Attack’ Leaves 500 Dead In Texas As UFO ‘Fleet” Nears Earth (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1481.htm)

Canadian-guerilla
26th August 2011, 07:11 AM
Faal in May '11,

‘Alien Attack’ Leaves 500 Dead In Texas As UFO ‘Fleet” Nears Earth (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1481.htm)

i think this just reinforces my point, Pat

people see garbage like this and EVERYTHING from SF is garbage

JDRock
26th August 2011, 08:57 AM
i was IN several of these under chicago. they called it the "deep tunnel project". for rainwater runoff...eyeroll...right,a 40' tunnel going for MILES and MILES,getting larger as it moved FURTHER from poulation centers....the other was a 22' tunnel that actually went UNDER lake michigan....rainwater my ass. there is NO bullshit involved, ive been there.

chad
26th August 2011, 09:02 AM
i was IN several of these under chicago. they called it the "deep tunnel project". for rainwater runoff...eyeroll...right,a 40' tunnel going for MILES and MILES,getting larger as it moved FURTHER from poulation centers....the other was a 22' tunnel that actually went UNDER lake michigan....rainwater my ass. there is NO bullshit involved, ive been there.

why would you need to divert water away from a lake? that's the whole point of a lake.

Large Sarge
26th August 2011, 09:13 AM
i was IN several of these under chicago. they called it the "deep tunnel project". for rainwater runoff...eyeroll...right,a 40' tunnel going for MILES and MILES,getting larger as it moved FURTHER from poulation centers....the other was a 22' tunnel that actually went UNDER lake michigan....rainwater my ass. there is NO bullshit involved, ive been there.

nice to see you posting J.D.

you have been kind of scare here lately....

send a message to Mr. Book, and let him Know I miss him, and wish he would come back here.

MNeagle
26th August 2011, 09:16 AM
nice to see you posting J.D.

you have been kind of scare here lately....

send a message to Mr. Book, and let him Know I miss him, and wish he would come back here.

Me too.

Here's one for sentimental times: ::)

PatColo
26th August 2011, 09:17 AM
i think this just reinforces my point, Pat

people see garbage like this and EVERYTHING from SF is garbage

My point was to reinforce your point, ;)

Faal's stuff remains worth a review though, if only for the various embedded links to more credible sources substantiating parts the larger tale Faal is peddling in the given article- these credible parts are like 'dots'; then you just dismiss 'big picture' which Faal tries to sell in their article as the subsequent connection of these 'dots', and you speculate on your own what the real big picture is. 'Take the bait, leave the hook' LOL :)

sirgonzo420
26th August 2011, 09:33 AM
i was IN several of these under chicago. they called it the "deep tunnel project". for rainwater runoff...eyeroll...right,a 40' tunnel going for MILES and MILES,getting larger as it moved FURTHER from poulation centers....the other was a 22' tunnel that actually went UNDER lake michigan....rainwater my ass. there is NO bullshit involved, ive been there.

And just what the hell were you doing in their super-secret tunnel system?

Santa
26th August 2011, 09:35 AM
This story is so interesting... and amazing if true.

Those sounds in Tampa did sound like air escaping from a long tube. Just like a gigantic horn of some sort.

Crazy shit, but hey... I'm constantly being challenged by the variables of understanding existence.

These vast underground burrows represent a profound metaphor.

A strange likelihood that makes me feel kind of queasy, as if we've all been working for some alien/insect/reptilian/demonic non human life form or something... :( >:D Lol

I read a book once, I can't remember who wrote it, that postulated through anecdote that "EVERYTHING THE MIND CONCEIVES BECOMES MANIFEST IN THE UNIVERSE." Though, I'd preface that with the understanding that it isn't one individual mind that does it for the most part, but that it's a collective. Collective consciousness. Collective conceptualization. The more that share a concept, the greater the possibility of its manifestation. As if each of us are cells in a collective brain. The collective. The Hive.

So TPTB are manifesting a conceptualization brought forth out of a fear of death, of losing... and consequently an irrepressible urge to control everything due to that fear.

In other words, a collection of pansy ass control freaks are quite literally creating "HELL ON EARTH," even down to the supposed mythos of a subterranean style Hades.

Damn... I wouldn't be particularly surprised if an entire host of "O"bominations(genetically modified human like creatures) wearing O0 helmets pour out from those holes at some point. Seriously, the science is already in place to accomplish such a thing.

For that matter, maybe there are good guys out there working behind the scenes who just blew a few thousand of the abominations into oblivion this past week... hmmmm... who might they be?

One can dream...

I believe the key to everything is to replace a fear of death with an intellectual >and< emotional knowledge that Life is Eternal. And that this is the basic building block that's essential to successful human civilization. When the understanding that Life is Eternal is undermined, then civilization collapses.

StreetsOfGold
26th August 2011, 10:00 AM
A strange likelihood that makes me feel kind of queasy, as if we've all been working for some alien/insect/reptilian/demonic non human life form or something... :( >:D Lol

Your instincts are partly correct so ..
don't laugh, if you are NOT SAVED... you belong to your father the Devil a.k.a. (Satan) which, in the Bible represents the REPTILE class, he is also called the serpent and a dragon. Satan is the god of THIS world and those who are saved are are no longer under the dominion of the god of this world but look for Jesus Christ to come back and set things straight for we have we no continuing city here on earth but look for Jesus Christ and a better world to come. A new heaven and new earth.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Hebrews 13:14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

7th trump
26th August 2011, 11:20 AM
Your instincts are partly correct so ..
don't laugh, if you are NOT SAVED... you belong to your father the Devil a.k.a. (Satan) which, in the Bible represents the REPTILE class, he is also called the serpent and a dragon. Satan is the god of THIS world and those who are saved are are no longer under the dominion of the god of this world but look for Jesus Christ to come back and set things straight for we have we no continuing city here on earth but look for Jesus Christ and a better world to come. A new heaven and new earth.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Hebrews 13:14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
You are pretty close Street! You have the right idea!..... more so than any other on this board.
On that note, satan, the god of this world, appears before the coming of Christ. satan appears looking like a lamb, having horns, but with a voice of a dragon. satan also comes to this world peacefully and prosperously...............there will not be any "devil" with a tail and pitch fork forcing the world to woreship him........he tricks them into doing that by play acting as Christ!
This passage is describing what we are taught today as the devil, a goat looking man with horns and a pitch fork bringing forth destruction of the world. However, religious tradition has blinded the masses. This passage is actually describing satan (the dragon, the son of perdition, the devil, the serpent and so on.) coming to earth looking just like Christ Himself. Christ has always been the sacrificial lamb and satan is described as looking like a lamb, but not a lamb. The horns represent power but the difference is Christ doesnt have a voice of a dragon. satan is coming play acting as christ................a fake messiah whos given powers to fool the earth into beleiving hes the Christ.
The 666 is nothing more than the 6th trumpet, the 6th seal, and the 6th vial all coming to pass at the same time....................the appearence of satan on earth from being kicked to earth after war in heaven with Micheal.

vacuum
26th August 2011, 11:22 AM
So how are you saved? ...based only on scripture from either Jesus or one of his 12 apostles (not Paul).

JJ.G0ldD0t
26th August 2011, 11:26 AM
*insert more theology debates*

vacuum
26th August 2011, 11:33 AM
So how are you saved? ...based only on scripture from either Jesus or one of his 12 apostles (not Paul).
Ok, maybe this could be answered in another forum.

I guess I'm just disappointed there is no russian military report.

TomD
26th August 2011, 11:43 AM
A $40 trillion dollar tunnel network? OK. And how many 100's of thousands of people are needed to build, maintain, supervise and staff this complex? Let me guess, they were all killed to keep them silent?

If you believe in this, you will believe in everything.

Santa
26th August 2011, 11:46 AM
Sorry... I opened up a can-o-philosophy. My bad. ;D

sirgonzo420
26th August 2011, 11:48 AM
A $40 trillion dollar tunnel network? OK. And how many 100's of thousands of people are needed to build, maintain, supervise and staff this complex? Let me guess, they were all killed to keep them silent?

If you believe in this, you will believe in everything.

The Manhatten Project stayed pretty quiet... and it involved over 130,000 people.



Just sayin'.

TomD
26th August 2011, 12:48 PM
The Manhatten Project stayed pretty quiet... and it involved over 130,000 people.



Just sayin'.

That was only a couple of years and with extraordinary security efforts and even then the Soviets knew everything about it. Also VERY few of the people working on it knew what they were working on.

Think, for a couple of minutes, about the size of a tunnel complex created over 50 years at a cost of a significant fraction of GDP in any one year. Now think of the thousands of different professions needed and the literal millions of people involved continuously for decades.

There is no way on earth to hide a continuing operation that big. We're talking US Military level of big. General Motors, Ford and Chrysler in their prime all combined made a couple of $10's of billions a year in revenue. We're talking hundreds of times that large.

beefsteak
26th August 2011, 12:49 PM
One of Dr. Deagle's early DOD assignments was to be stationed within the tunnels near Moscow. He spoke in some detail in an earlier in the month of August Rense link posted here on GS.

If that WAS a nuke explosion, then thank God, it's now "one down and 4 to go" kind of count currently. Rather they go off underground than above ground! We've already got that going on again, thank you NOT Fukushima.


beefsteak

po boy
26th August 2011, 01:05 PM
This thread reminds me of DIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTKb_yu0ek

Santa
26th August 2011, 01:40 PM
That was only a couple of years and with extraordinary security efforts and even then the Soviets knew everything about it. Also VERY few of the people working on it knew what they were working on.

Think, for a couple of minutes, about the size of a tunnel complex created over 50 years at a cost of a significant fraction of GDP in any one year. Now think of the thousands of different professions needed and the literal millions of people involved continuously for decades.

There is no way on earth to hide a continuing operation that big. We're talking US Military level of big. General Motors, Ford and Chrysler in their prime all combined made a couple of $10's of billions a year in revenue. We're talking hundreds of times that large.

The size of the endeavor may very well be an exaggeration.

However, don't throw the baby out. There really should be no doubt that there are quite a few concealed extensive black ops tunnels and bunkers scattered around the country. Hell, that's probably the case in every country.

Maybe that's what Sorcha Fail is doing. Stretching the credibility.

vacuum
26th August 2011, 01:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_magnitude_scale#Nuclear_explosions

JDRock
26th August 2011, 05:59 PM
why would you need to divert water away from a lake? that's the whole point of a lake.

thats the whole point! its total bs to say it was for rainwater! i explored them for miles as i was employed as a contractor for them....railroad the whole works...air vents... electricity..

JDRock
26th August 2011, 06:06 PM
it was in plain sight being billed as flood control (for a city that has never flooded btw) it was not top secret.
what the hell they are doing with it now is anyones guess.

po boy
27th August 2011, 09:29 AM
A $40 trillion dollar tunnel network? OK. And how many 100's of thousands of people are needed to build, maintain, supervise and staff this complex? Let me guess, they were all killed to keep them silent?

If you believe in this, you will believe in everything.

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PatColo
29th August 2011, 03:57 PM
Sunday, August 28, 2011

6 Strange Anomalies With The Virginia Earthquake (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/6-strange-anomalies-with-virginia.html)


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wOqvbeLZQ9w/TlmkDGz30pI/AAAAAAAAKug/SucYipRcX1c/s200/va+shake+map+noaa.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wOqvbeLZQ9w/TlmkDGz30pI/AAAAAAAAKug/SucYipRcX1c/s1600/va+shake+map+noaa.jpg) USGS Shakemap Image (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virginia_earthquake,_Aug_23.jpg) Eric Blair
Activist Post (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/6-strange-anomalies-with-virginia.html)

My first thought upon hearing the news of the rare 5.9 magnitude earthquake in Virginia this week was that it was not a natural occurrence. After all, no one has ever felt or even heard of such a powerful temblor happening in this area in a lifetime. As is usual for my cynical instincts, I hoped that I was wrong. However, several anomalies indicate that something is not normal with the Virginia quake.

First, I spend a lot of time in the "Ring of Fire" zone and have experienced numerous earthquakes. By no means does this make me an expert, nor scientifically qualified to analyze earthquakes. But, as enthusiasts, we looked up every quake we felt over a five-year period -- the size, epicenter location, depth, and so on, to get a general sense of placing how it "felt" relative to the official data.



I can categorically state that, of the dozen or so earthquakes that I've experienced, including a powerful 6.2, all of them started gently, none of them were over 50 miles away, all of them had depths of several kilometers, and the big ones seemed to have multiple aftershocks reported. Again, I say this as an observer, not as a scientist, and I'm only providing this background simply to qualify my immediate skepticism.

Furthermore, curiously, the "Great Virginia Quake of 2011," unprecedented in size and scope, should have grabbed the media headlines and discussion for weeks, but Hurricane Irene has all but wiped the earthquake off the weather map. Even as all the storm measurements for Irene show that it will likely be a minor nuisance, maybe some flooding and power outages, multiple states of emergency have been declared, mandatory mass evacuations ordered, and the media is all too eager to spread the panic. You'd think the east coast of the United States was being invaded. It feels like a distraction, or perhaps a large but manageable live drill of some kind to make heroes out of our politicians, and FEMA look like a successful agency.

If this manic and surreal coverage of Irene is a deliberate distraction, the anomalies regarding the recent earthquake may have provided sufficient motivation for doing so. Not to discount other establishment catastrophes that they may want to distract from at this critical time -- like the crumbling economy, record political disapproval, and the bungled invasion of Tripoli -- but, if any discussion about the unusual nature of the earthquake was allowed one must ponder if some sort of manipulation was involved. The establishment will not permit such talk, apparently; hence the rapid about-face on earthquake coverage.

Below are six abnormalities about the Virginia earthquake that should warrant further investigation:

Location: The location is the most obvious anomaly for such a powerful quake. Although the area of the U.S. where the earthquake initiated sits on the edge of an ancient tectonic plate called the Craton Plate (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/dutchsinse-nails-recent-earthquake.html), it is considered a relatively dormant or settled area. In other words, it's not a very active earthquake zone. Therefore, any noticeable earthquake is unusual, let alone a 5.9 monster that was reportedly felt 500 miles away. Furthermore, if one is inclined to believe that earthquakes can be manipulated, the epicenter occurring close to Washington D.C. (with all its sensitive military and government infrastructure) raises some suspicions. Admittedly, that's conjecture, but considering the following oddities it might be more believable by the end of the article.

Unusually Shallow Depth: The initial hypocenter (depth) of the quake reported by the establishment media was, wait for it, wait for it, only 0.1 miles or about 528 feet (161 meters) deep. That's right, AFP announced (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/rare-quake-rattles-eastern-us-seaboard.html) the depth with certainty, "The Pentagon, the US Capitol and monuments in the nation's capital were all evacuated after the 5.9-magnitude quake, which was shallow with its epicenter only 0.1 miles underground." The depth was later adjusted to a more believable 3.7 miles (5.95 kilometers) beneath the surface. Still, shallow-focus quakes usually only occur in areas abundant in seismic activity, like the ring of fire. And the depths of those shallow-focus earthquakes are usually in the tens of kilometers deep. The Earth's crust in the Eastern U.S. where "the fault lines are more healed" is described by CBS News as "older and colder (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/23/scitech/main20096181.shtml)" than out West. Which, according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake), means it should have been a deep-focus earthquake with a depth ranging from 300 to 700 kilometers. Certainly not one barely below the Earth's surface.

Odd Seismograph Reading: A reporter from Press Core received (http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4009) an anonymous email from someone claiming to be in the U.S. Air Force that stated the Virginia earthquake “wasn’t a natural earthquake and not a HAARP earthquake." The reporter was instructed to find a seismograph of the Washington DC area earthquake and compare it to a past earthquakes and seismic readings of the alleged underground nuclear test by North Korea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_North_Korean_nuclear_test) that resulted in a 4.7 magnitude tremor (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/world/asia/26threat.html) at a depth of zero.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uhf-sM9lXKU/TlmN019K4RI/AAAAAAAAKuU/G37ZOb0Vn7Y/s1600/nuclear-detonation-seismograph-082311.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uhf-sM9lXKU/TlmN019K4RI/AAAAAAAAKuU/G37ZOb0Vn7Y/s1600/nuclear-detonation-seismograph-082311.jpg) Seismograph of Virginia quake in green -- Washington and Lee University (http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/aug/23/13/59-earthquake-rocks-virginia-ar-1324668/) (85 miles from epicenter) Press Core writes, the green lines indicate the blunt tremor that was felt in Washington D.C. and the black lines are a transparent overlay of a normal earthquake seismograph from a pdf file from Virginia Division Mineral Resources on Earthquakes (http://www.dmme.virginia.gov/DMR3/dmrpdfs/EARTHQUAKES.pdf). That file describes a typical natural occurring earthquake as:
When a fault ruptures, energy is released in the form of seismic waves. The first waves to reach the earth’s surface are primary or 'P' waves (Figure 2). P waves are compressional waves that travel at a speed of about four miles per second near the surface – faster as depth increases. The next waves to reach the earth’s surface are secondary or 'S' waves. S waves are shear waves that move at a speed of about 1.5 miles per second. P and S waves are body waves that travel through the earth much like sonar waves travel through water. Surface waves, which are slower than S waves, travel along the surface of the earth much like waves at the surface of the ocean. S waves and surface waves cause the most destruction at the earth’s surface.The article concludes; "What is missing from the seismograph for the Washington DC area 5.8 magnitude earthquake are the primary or 'P' waves. All earthquakes that are the direct result of fault rupture have these primary or 'P' waves. Nuclear detonations do not."

Distance Felt: As my introduction stated, I've never "felt" an earthquake whose epicenter was farther than 50 miles away. Of course, this doesn't mean that it's not possible, as clearly this was felt upwards of 500 miles from the epicenter. The CBS article (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/23/scitech/main20096181.shtml) quoted above that referred to the crust as "older and colder" also uses that argument to explain why tremors were felt so far away: "The East is far less seismically active -- but when earthquakes do hit, that hard ground is far more effective at conducting the seismic waves. When you hit it, it rings like a bell," said Christopher Scholz a professor of geophysics at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory." This seems a bit contradictory given the shallow depth of the quake, but there may be some validity to the "bell" theory. The fact remains, earthquakes whose effects travel long distances are uncommon, hence the reason for the CBS article about why the quake was so "widely felt."

'Remarkably Low' Number of Aftershocks: Amy Vaughan, a geophysicist with the USGS Earthquake Information Center in Colorado told CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/24/national/main20096620.shtml) that "For the size earthquake that occurred, I think the number of aftershocks so far has been remarkably low." Don Blakeman, another geophysicist at the Earthquake Information Center, added "Typically, the larger the quake, the longer and the greater extent of aftershocks. Shallow earthquakes like the one in Virginia also tend to generate numerous aftershocks." The lack of aftershocks led the USGS to report that the Virginia quake may be just a foreshock (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/202683/20110823/virginia-earthquake-5-8-richmond-washington-dc-new-york-city-nyc-toronto-charlottesville-louisa-coun.htm) of something larger to come. A foreshock is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreshock) an earthquake that occurs before a larger seismic event (the mainshock) and is related to it in both time and space. I'm not sure what this means other than it's just another abnormality about this quake.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0axCrBffzqY/TlmgWhHOWGI/AAAAAAAAKuY/NwuBL1eh1r0/s1600/hurricane+switching+course+HAARP.gif (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0axCrBffzqY/TlmgWhHOWGI/AAAAAAAAKuY/NwuBL1eh1r0/s1600/hurricane+switching+course+HAARP.gif) Image source - Enterprise Mission (http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/weblog.htm) Instantaneously Knocked Irene Off Course: Kevin Hayden and Glenn Kreisberg reported (http://www.truthistreason.net/haarp-hurricane-irene-and-the-dc-earthquake-connected) "Coincidentally, the time frame leading up to Virginia/DC/New York area experiencing freak seismic activity, Hurricane Irene begins to weaken and move off course, avoiding its initial path of Havanna, inland Florida, the Carolinas, and eventually, the Washington, DC area. The newly projected paths show that it may barely clip the eastern coast, if at all. Just as Ophelia did when it threatened the same region." Irene stalled and changed directions similar to Ophelia seen in the graphic provided. Clearly, these types of drastic changes are not a natural path for hurricanes.

A few articles have speculated that HAARP earthquake weapons (http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/was-virginia-earthquake-induced-by.html) were to blame, in conjunction with manipulating hurricane Irene. Indeed, when one knows even the basic capabilities of HAARP, this does not seem too far-fetched. Press Core seems to think the seismic data proves it was more similar to an underground nuclear detonation. One thing is for sure, the mysterious characteristics of the Virginia quake seem to indicate that it was not a typical earthquake.

Comment on what you think about these strange anomalies, or please provide solid evidence to explain them away.

Large Sarge
29th August 2011, 04:13 PM
I felt that virginia quake in N. Georgia...

My Dad is a little earthquake bug,

so I felt the the thing, my chair was just kind of rolling you know...

weird feeling, also kind of a nausea

so I called my dad, I said "did we just get a quake"?

he looked on his sites, and said "yes, a big one 5.9 in virginia"

I thought it was weird to feel it all the way down here, it must be over 500 miles to that place...

Joe King
29th August 2011, 04:26 PM
I thought it was weird to feel it all the way down here, it must be over 500 miles to that place...

The crust in the Eastern US is not nearly as broken up as it is in the Western US. Therefore, with vast areas well connected, you should feel it further away.
It's like the New Madrid quakes in 1811. They were felt over the entire Eastern half of the nation with not a lot of activity since. No nukes back then.

Large Sarge
29th August 2011, 04:31 PM
well new madrid, is a known fault system.

and they estimate that quake between 7.5 and 8.0

but part of the premise is correct, on the east coast geology, but there are some real weird things, no after shocks, the depth of the quake, etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_New_Madrid_earthquake

Joe King
29th August 2011, 04:56 PM
well new madrid, is a known fault system.

and they estimate that quake between 7.5 and 8.0

but part of the premise is correct, on the east coast geology, but there are some real weird things, no after shocks, the depth of the quake, etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_New_Madrid_earthquake



The fact is, we know relatively little about mid-plate earthquakes like New Madrid, or others in the Eastern US due their infrequency. What we do know is that they behave differently than earthquakes along plate boundraies.
To compare the two could be the main problem in not being able to make sense of the less frequently occuring type.
Mid-plate earthquakes can occur on faults that have gone completely unnoticed because we really don't know for sure what's down there.
The only reason we know as much as we do about CA type quakes is because they happen so often.

Also, Plate Tectonics was still just a theory until the early 1960's, and most of what we know about earthquakes centers on those California-type quakes.

Personally, I think mid-plate quakes such as these are a result of stress being relieved within the plate. Once it breaks at a given location, stress builds up in some new place until it pops there, as the whole thing slowly moves along its way.