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Large Sarge
31st August 2011, 06:19 AM
Silver Ready to Breakout - Technicals and Fundamentals Suggest $50/oz in Early Autumn


Three key metrics which strongly suggest that silver remains far from a bubble if not undervalued. The first is silver’s real price today adjusted for the inflation of the last 31 years. Silver’s real high in 1980 was $130 per ounce – more than double the price today (see chart above). The second is the gold silver ratio which has averaged 15 to 1 throughout history due to geology and the fact that there are 15 parts of silver to every 1 part of gold in the earth’s crust. The third metric is comparing silver’s current bull market to that of the 1970’s. Silver has risen by a factor of 10 in the last 9 years – from near $4 in 2001 to over $41 today. In its bull market from 1971 to 1980, silver rose by over 3,199% or by a factor of more than 32 in just 9 years culminating in the blow off top in 1979. Today, the physical supply of silver bullion is much less than in the 1970’s. Also there is the ‘Asian factor’ and 3 billion people with growing incomes, many of whom see silver as a store of value against currency depreciation. Demand for silver in Asia has been increasing and in China alone silver demand is increasing from a near zero base. The demand was not present in the 1970’s.From Goldcore:


Gold and silver have fallen after yesterday’s gains due to the very poor consumer confidence data and Federal Reserve murmurings of further monetary easing. Gold is trading at USD 1,792.50, EUR 1,245.10, GBP 1,098.30, CHF 1,471.50 and JPY 137,624 per ounce. While silver is trading at USD 41.21, EUR 28.53 , GBP 25.31, CHF 33.33 and JPY 3,155 per ounce.

Silver Spot $/oz - G1 Daily 8/31/09-8/31/11, Bloomberg Finance
Gold’s London AM fix this morning was USD 1,826.00, EUR 1,264.19, GBP 1,121.14 per ounce. Gold fix was higher than yesterday’s AM Fix which was USD 1,791.00, EUR 1,243.49, GBP 1,097.56 per ounce.
Gold remains less than 5% from its record nominal high of $1,913.50 per ounce while silver remains nearly 20% below its record nominal high just below $50/oz.
Gold has stolen the limelight from silver in recent weeks with gold reaching a series of new record nominal highs.
But silver has been quietly consolidating after the sharp falls seen at the end of April and in early May when many claimed the silver ‘bubble’ had burst.
Media coverage of silver remains nearly nonexistent which is bullish from a contrarian perspective.
Technically silver is looking better by the day and is now trading not far above its 50 and 100 day moving averages (see chart above).
Today the 50 day moving average is trading at $38.70/oz and the 100 day moving average is trading at $38.74/oz. The 50 DMA is rising after recent price gains and looks set to cross the 100 DMA in the coming days. This will be a bullish technical signal.
Silver’s sell off was very sharp but volatility and a correction was expected and warned of once silver reached the nominal inflation adjusted high of $50 per ounce.
Value buyers continue to accumulate silver bullion. Jim Rogers, one of the most prescient investors of recent times and who arguably has a better track record than Soros in recent years, remains bullish on gold and particularly silver.
A tiny minority of retail investors has begun to look at silver, but it remains largely the preserve of the smart money, a very small amount of people in the United States and Europe concerns about currency devaluation and store of value buyers in Asia.
There are many factors that strongly suggest that silver remains a prudent buy and diversification today.
But there are three key metrics which strongly suggest that silver remains far from a bubble if not undervalued.

The first is silver’s real price today adjusted for the inflation of the last 31 years. Silver’s real high in 1980 was $130 per ounce – more than double the price today (see chart above).
The second is the gold silver ratio which has averaged 15 to 1 throughout history due to geology and the fact that there are 15 parts of silver to every 1 part of gold in the earth’s crust.

Gold Silver Ratio – 40 Year (Quarterly)
Silver, unlike gold, is an industrial metal and a very significant amount of all the silver that has even been mined has been consumed, like oil, since the dawn of the industrial revolution in the 19th century.
Most analysts with a long term view believe that the ratio is likely to revert to the mean of 15 to 1 in the coming years.
The third metric is comparing silver’s current bull market to that of the 1970s.
Silver has risen by a factor of 10 in the last 9 years – from near $4 in 2001 to over $41 today.
In its bull market from 1971 to 1980, silver rose by over 3,199% or by a factor of more than 32 in just 9 years culminating in the blow off top in 1979.

Today, the physical supply of silver bullion is much less than in the 1970s. Also there is the ‘Asian factor’ and 3 billion people with growing incomes, many of whom see silver as a store of value against currency depreciation.
Demand for silver in Asia has been increasing and in China alone silver demand is increasing from a near zero base. The demand was not present in the 1970s.
Were silver to replicate the performance of the 1970s it would have to rise 32 times or to $130/oz (32 X $4.05).
Interestingly, $130/oz is also silver’s real high from 1980.
Our long held belief that silver could reach the real high, inflation adjusted, of $130/oz remains. However price forecasts should always be taken with a pinch of salt and silver’s value is as financial insurance and a store of wealth that cannot be debased.
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Large Sarge
31st August 2011, 06:20 AM
lots of nice charts at link below

http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2011/08/silver-ready-to-breakout-technicals-and.html

1970 silver art
31st August 2011, 05:06 PM
The technicals might say that but I do not think that $50 is going to happen in Autumn (or in 2011 for that matter). If silver attempted to make another run for $50, then it will get shot down like it did in May. The JPM shorts are just going to pile on it and keep it away from $50.

wrs
31st August 2011, 07:05 PM
The technicals might say that but I do not think that $50 is going to happen in Autumn (or in 2011 for that matter). If silver attempted to make another run for $50, then it will get shot down like it did in May. The JPM shorts are just going to pile on it and keep it away from $50.

That's not what Wynter Benton says and right now there are 15.5m oz standing for delivery which is half the deliverable silver available on the CRIMEX...................

Spectrism
1st September 2011, 07:25 AM
It is hard to know what/ who to believe these days. There is so much fraud everywhere. What other sources of silver are there? Just because we see a registered amount of silver on CRIMEX, this does not mean that is all the silver. It is in private hands too. I think they could probably produce more than enough for any contracts in the short term... but how can anyone track this?

One school of thougt is that silver will drop down to the $30 range before climbing over $100 next Spring. I guess you have to look at the logic of the trade. Should I gamble the entry time, hoping for a lower price (saving as much as $10) when a growth of more than $20 is already looking pretty strong? And the long term prospect for silver over $100 is fairly certain.

While I would love to see silver drop to $30, I think it would be prudent to ensure you are setting a percentage of your holdings in physical right now and add as prices drop.

1970 silver art
4th September 2011, 02:53 PM
That's not what Wynter Benton says and right now there are 15.5m oz standing for delivery which is half the deliverable silver available on the CRIMEX...................

We will see what happens. I am currently sticking by what I have been saying since April and that is...............Silver will NOT hit $50 in 2011. It came close in April when Kitco spot silver price hit an intra-day high of $49.85 but close does not count.

Serpo
4th September 2011, 03:15 PM
We will see what happens. I am currently sticking by what I have been saying since April and that is...............Silver will NOT hit $50 in 2011. It came close in April when Kitco spot silver price hit an intra-day high of $49.85 but close does not count.

Close enough for me ,silver has already hit 50$ apart from 15c .I havnt got some big high stakes bet on.So to me it has already hit 50$..........hehe

Neuro
4th September 2011, 03:18 PM
Here is silvers seasonal chart:

http://www.321gold.com/charts/seasonalsi.gif
http://www.kitco.com/LFgif/ag2011.gif

1970 silver art
4th September 2011, 03:29 PM
Close enough for me ,silver has already hit 50$ apart from 15c .I havnt got some big high stakes bet on.So to me it has already hit 50$..........hehe


Hahahaha!!!!! Yeah but Serpo $49.85 is just $49.85. $49.85 is NOT $50. :)

Serpo
4th September 2011, 03:32 PM
Hahahaha!!!!! Yeah but Serpo $49.85 is just $49.85. $49.85 is NOT $50. :)


Why should I care...............

steyr_m
4th September 2011, 03:33 PM
I've been hearing about silver going "go to the moon" since GIM1. If/when it happens, it happens. I'm not looking for it anymore.

Serpo
4th September 2011, 03:58 PM
Here is silvers seasonal chart:

http://www.321gold.com/charts/seasonalsi.gif


The seasonal chart is a great chart Neuro........almost as good as a road map.....

Serpo
4th September 2011, 04:00 PM
I've been hearing about silver going "go to the moon" since GIM1. If/when it happens, it happens. I'm not looking for it anymore.
It is in lower earth orbit at the moment awaiting ignition of booster rockets, Mars is now the objective.

1970 silver art
4th September 2011, 04:01 PM
Why should I care...............


Good question. Why should you care? I am just nit-picking. It is what it is. :)

Serpo
4th September 2011, 04:08 PM
Good question. Why should you care? I am just nit-picking. It is what it is. :)


And we all love it.....

1970 silver art
4th September 2011, 04:17 PM
And we all love it.....

Yep. We all love it. In reality, I really love and cherish silver (in 1-oz silver art bar form) but I have to occasionally bad-mouth the DOG just because it is cool to do so and I feel that I will end up being right when silver will not touch $50 at all this year. :) All I am doing at this point is waiting for Ponce to pay me 3 rolls of tp. :)

Serpo
5th September 2011, 03:12 AM
Dogs are quite patient..............

Serpo
5th September 2011, 03:22 AM
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Gold May Top $6,000, Silver $600: Asset Manager





Gold prices may reach $6,200 per ounce in a bull run which will “end all major bull markets,” Urs Gmuer, asset manager at Dolefin, a Swiss investment advice firm, told CNBC. http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/Sections/News_And_Analysis/__Story_Inserts/graphics/__METALS_MINING/GOLD/gold_silver_coins2_200.jpg
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Gmuer’s prediction is based on analysis of the last major gold boom of the 1970s, during which gold prices rose from $35 per ounce to $850 per ounce. Gmuer said that in the current bull run, prices would be pushed upwards by a protracted period of global economic difficulty—potentially lasting years—during which investors would continue to search for so-called safe havens (http://www.cnbc.com/id/44201390/).
“Gold prices have risen over the last few years, as the macroeconomic picture has become worse. The deterioration of the fundamental situation has now gone even further.
“Purchases by investors of gold will be based on fears of systemic risk or banking crashes,” Gmuer said.
The investment manager said that as no "safe" currencies remain, cautious investors had no choice but to opt for precious metals.
“The ultimate currency, which has stood the test of time, which has no political support behind it, is gold. Nobody can print gold out of a machine or a PC.
“What the Swiss National Bank did two-and-a-half weeks ago (http://www.cnbc.com/id/44156454/), increasing the supply of the Swiss franc, means the safe currencies are all gone. That is why gold will have a revival,” he said.
Gmuer said the precious metal had entered a “super-cycle,” which he likened to the 1998-to-2000 boom in technology media and telecommunications.
He added, “This bull trend will end all the other major bull markets,” and singled out debt capital as an asset class for which demand and prices would decline.
However, Gmuer denied that high and rising gold prices could be indicative of a bubble. “If everybody is saying a particular asset is a bubble, that reflects the fact that most people have disposed of it,” he said.
Other calculations indicate that gold prices could peak at $3,500 or $4,000 per ounce. This is based on historical data regarding the long-term ratio of gold prices to the global money supply.
On Sept. 2, gold [GCCV1 1898.10 http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/CNBC_Images/componentbacks/watchlist_up.gif 21.20 (+1.13%) http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/CNBC_Images/backgrounds/realtime_icon.gif] (http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/GCCV1) peaked at $1884.60.
Silver Set for 20-Fold Price Rise?
In addition, Gmuer said silver is set for an even greater upward run than gold, with the market due to correct a distortion in its pricing of silver in relation to gold.
Gold and silver currently price at a ratio of around 45:1. However, Gmuer said declining silver output over the last 60 years—as a result of inventory depletion and mine closures—meant silver supplies currently outnumber gold by a ratio of less than 10:1, thus indicating a market correction is due.
Once this occurs, Gmuer said silver prices would settle at 6.7 percent to 10 percent of gold prices. This implies that if gold reaches $6,200 per ounce, silver could peak at $620 per ounce.
On Sept. 2, silver [SICV1 43.195 http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/CNBC_Images/componentbacks/watchlist_up.gif 0.126 (+0.29%) http://media.cnbc.com/i/CNBC/CNBC_Images/backgrounds/realtime_icon.gif] (http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/SICV1) peaked at $43.24.


Gmuer added that markets for all precious metals were benefiting from the surge in demand for commodities, food, and energy from developing countries.
“Since World War II, the world population has almost quadrupled. However, most of the increase was in countries that had closed political systems, such as the Soviet Union, China and India," he said. “When these countries started to open up in the 1990s, these people saw they could increase their level of well-being. It is pent-up demand.”



http://www.cnbc.com/id/44373049

Large Sarge
5th September 2011, 04:57 AM
China speaks up "expect a 20 fold rise in the price of silver"

http://cnbusinessnews.com/silver-set-for-20-fold-price-rise/

1970 silver art
5th September 2011, 05:27 AM
Dogs are quite patient..............

I guess that silver will have to be a little bit more patient and wait until after 2011 to hit and exceed $50 because I am in the process of winning a tp bet with Ponce. :)

Twisted Titan
5th September 2011, 05:37 AM
Could you image the day when a single mercury dime will fecth over a hundread dollars? ( im still using the unit of value we are familiar with)

Grab the mercs while.you still.can.

Spectrism
5th September 2011, 07:33 AM
There are some real unknowns that will make up the costs.

Those increasing silver price:

Depreciating fiat currencies. Not just dollar. All fiat currencies.
Decreasing supply of silver.
Increasing denamd for silver- assuming people can afford the luxeury of a precious metal.
Need for transportable liquid store of wealth.


Those decreasing silver price:

Increase in general poverty level as the greatest depression grows.
Market manipulation by money controllers.
Legislation about barter and sales- soon potentially to all be controlled digitally.
Major disasters destroying 1/3 of world population.... reducing demand.


I would lean much more heavily with the first category for the short term... next 2-3 years, assuming the time is available.

Neuro
5th September 2011, 07:52 AM
I think Silver will go back and test the 200dma (green line) right now around $34, before it breaks $50, and then it will go insane. Previously I have thought, that Silver will go much deeper in this correction, but we are entering seasonal strength in Silver soon, I don't think sub 30 silver is going to happen, any longer, it going down and rebounding at the 200dma would be a very strong buy signal IMO...
http://www.kitco.com/lfgif/ag2920lf_ma.gif