Ron Paul is 'an idiot'

[osoab]

Conn. Governor Dannel Malloy: Ron Paul is 'an idiot' (http://am.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/31/conn-governor-dannel-malloy-ron-paul-is-an-idiot/)



Three days after Hurricane Irene ripped through Connecticut, reports say that about 400,000 people are still without power. Water has just crested this morning from massive flooding that rendered about one thousand roads impassable.

Today on American Morning, Governor Dannel Malloy discusses the damage within the state and the government's relief efforts with Christine Romans. He also responds the political debate over the federal role of disaster response, commenting about Ron Paul's remark that FEMA gets in the way and wastes money.

"I think he's an idiot," Malloys says. "We are spending $900 million a week in wars and he is arguing about whether we should spend some amount of money? FEMA now has currently $900 million budget available to it. This is a ridiculous conversation. I really don't understand what he is talking about and I'm not sure he does."

"Without this system of response, we would not be standing here with as few people who have died in this massive storm," Malloy adds. "For someone in Texas to be talking about FEMA being defunded really does rise to idiocy and hypocrisy. This is pure politics playing out across individuals' misery."


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[Dogman]

I saw his interview on CNN last night.

Ron Paul did not help himself, saying what he did on CNN right after the hurricane hit. What he said will go down like a screen door in a submarine he may have just ended his campaign in the east cost. He just pissed off all of new england, and probably the majority of the nation.

He cut his own throat.

Sad! No way he will be elected now.

[mamboni]

Malloy is the poster child for liberalism and why the country is busted. In his twisted way of thinking, it doesn't matter how much money we spend and how inefficiently we spend it, because we are compassionate and helping people. These same sanctimonious assholes never mention that they are spending other people's money without consent. So now, if you question expenditures by FEMA you are an idiot and a hypocrit? And if you question anthropogenic global warming or embrace the Tea Party movement you are a racist?

The country is finished, it really is. Personally, I don't have the time or patience to even debate these issues with folk anymore. I say if the people are stupid enough to fall for this blatant demagoguery then they deserve to get hosed. I have enough to worry about caring for my own.

[osoab]

I saw his interview on CNN last night.

Ron Paul did not help himself, saying what he did on CNN right after the hurricane hit. What he said will go down like a screen door in a submarine he may have just ended his campaign in the east cost. He just pissed off all of new england, and probably the majority of the nation.

He cut his own throat.

Sad! No way he will be elected now.

I know there was a thread about him saying cut FEMA, but couldn't find it.

[Dogman]

I know there was a thread about him saying cut FEMA, but couldn't find it. And he said it again last night on CNN. With all of the hurricane stuff going on about towns being wiped out and people are really needing help.

If you are a politician some things need not be said! Because someday they may bite you. Ron Paul just committed public political suicide on national tv last night.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESAuaCyflQ

Edit: This was aired last night, with all of the news about the flooding and damage in the east caused by the hurricane.

RP had good points , the very best , but he was saying all of it right in the middle of the shit that hit new england.

That was one interview he should not have made at this particular time. He came off very bad because of it with the people that are in the damaged areas from the hurricane.

He might as well not campaign in new england now.

[madfranks]

Governor Dannel Malloy is the kind of person who thinks that unless the gov't provides food, people will starve to death. Unless the gov't provides housing, people will be homeless. Unless the gov't provides healthcare, people will die. The fact that people have a self interest to cooperate and take care of themselves doesn't even occur to him!

[Joe King]

Governor Dannel Malloy is the kind of person who thinks that unless the gov't provides food, people will starve to death. Unless the gov't provides housing, people will be homeless. Unless the gov't provides healthcare, people will die. The fact that people have a self interest to cooperate and take care of themselves doesn't even occur to him!That's because his "money" depends on him not seeing that.

[Gaillo]

Yep... BAD move by Ron Paul! :o
He should have STFU about FEMA until he was in office, and in a position to actually DO something about it. As is, most of the waffling sheep who were consider voting for him will see him as a heartless bastard who doesn't want disaster relief...

[Joe King]

It might actually work out ok for him. Just depends upon how many people there get left with a bad taste in their mouth after having to actually deal with FEMA. I'm sure it'll be an eye opening experience for many of them.
How many? Only time will tell.

[po boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Z0NT5TWWQ

[mamboni]

Yep... BAD move by Ron Paul! :o
He should have STFU about FEMA until he was in office, and in a position to actually DO something about it. As is, most of the waffling sheep who were consider voting for him will see him as a heartless bastard who doesn't want disaster relief...

yep Gaillo, your comment points squarely to Ron Paul greatest failing as a politician: he's honest.

[Dogman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Z0NT5TWWQ Anyone that believes a word from brown. Paul need to run as far away from michael brown as fast as he can.

Michael Brown brought new lows, that have not been passed by any other political flunky.

I will not even use the word incompetent in describing brown, because he was and is way past that description.

[po boy]

Just because he sucked at his job doesn't mean he's not telling the truth here.

[jimswift]

Paul need to run as far away from Bruce Fein as fast as he can.

touched it up.

[Dogman]

Just because he sucked at his job doesn't mean he's not telling the truth here. Not disagreeing with you. It is just is in my opinion he is a piece of shit that never should have held any sort of gov job. But then again........

[Dogman]

touched it up.Yep!

[gunDriller]

Not disagreeing with you. It is just is in my opinion he is a piece of shit that never should have held any sort of gov job. But then again........

well, maybe he could help out in the BLM's Wild Mustang Adoption program.

Brownie has some experience with horses.

[goldleaf]

We got along without FEMA for years. Get our national guard home from all these wars and they could handle it like they
always did before.

[Libertytree]

I'll have to disagree here, for the most part.

The initial response isn't positive but I'm willing to bet that RP will be called out on his remarks and that will give him an opportunity to rebut and clarify them properly, ie the National Guards traditional role and it's current role as well as the failure that FEMA has been overall. This isn't a campaign killer, it's still early in this game.

[Cebu_4_2]

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Ron Paul's federal disaster relief plan: Kill FEMA

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Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul is on his his third bid for the presidency.
A distinctive and refreshing trait of the libertarian's campaigns is that the retired doctor calmly provokes politicians and voters to talk about the political givens they otherwise would prefer to leave alone. Why is the Federal Reserve so powerful and secretive? What benefit do we really get out of foreign wars? Couldn't those billions be better spent at home?
Disturbing to some, who boo Paul at Republican debates.
But that's a healthy thing given the tendency of well-coiffed candidates to blather out their focus-grouped, well-rehearsed talking points at every opening. You don't get the impression that Ron Paul is ever saying what he thinks you want to hear, a sign of genuineness that attracts his devoted band of followers and sticks out in American politics, albeit often self-defeating
Also, honestly, Ron Paul's straight-faced ability to drive government-loving TV interviewers into incredulity is most entertaining.
The 76-year-old's latest willing victim is CNN's Anderson Cooper (http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/30/video-rep-ron-paul-on-why-hed-do-away-with-fema/). And Paul's latest contribution ...

... to the 2012 election debate is his suggestion that the United States doesn't really need FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which so often hasn't lived up to its name. It is, of course, very American to name storms like pets and pretend that a 400-mile-wide swath of 115-mph winds and rains can somehow be managed. Very foolish, but very American. Leave it to Paul to burst the popular bubble of omnipotent government via CNN Tuesday night.

You know, when we had Katrina going into New Orleans, they needed ice. So FEMA ordered ice from the Northeast. They ordered 211 million pounds of ice. It traveled for two weeks and they finally ended up in Nebraska. And they never got it. That's a typical way of how FEMA works.
Cooper said he reported extensively on Katrina and the incompetence of local officials, and that more people would have died without FEMA. "Well," Paul said, "that remains to be seen."http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef015435030ee6970c-300wi (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef015435030ee6970c-popup)
Paul's argument, as usual, centers on the ineffectiveness of large, expensive government bureaucracies to do much except perpetuate themselves and be expensive. Paul added:
"You create more hazards by the government by saying, well, in government, you pay this and the government will be there. They'll always be there to take care of you and pay your bills while they're broke. They can't pay the bills."
Don't get the 11-term congressman started on government bureaucracies. But Cooper did:

The government will take care of us and we're broke and we're in the midst of this economic crisis, which will get a lot worse and not be concerned about it. Say, well, the people need it. Well, I mean from the start of FEMA being involved and taking control, and taking over this management, they aren't very efficient. They're very inefficient....
They would have been better of in Katrina if they had just written a check to everybody and not gotten involved in all the mess. They handed checks to people who didn't even live there. I don't know how anybody could defend the inefficiency of what went on in Katrina.
It really hasn't changed. It is part of the Department of Homeland Security. All you have to do is look at the TSA, that's another favorite bureaucracy that American people don't like.
At that point, Cooper wisely surrendered: "Yes. Congressman Ron Paul, appreciate your time, as always. Thank you, sir."
In the 2007-08 presidential election cycle, Paul, who raised more money than that Arkansas preacher who wrote books about weight loss and got way more media coverage, was even banned from some presidential debates because he was so far out there.
In 2008, Paul was inveighing about such ridiculous things as the exploding national debt and the imperative of cutting government spending because the country couldn't afford itself.
Now, it's 2011 and -- look -- Paul's agenda is the nation's political agenda. He's not barred from debates anymore. In fact, the next GOP set-to is Sept. 7 at the Reagan Library.
President Obama is so worried about what might come out there, he's trying to schedule a competing address to Congress that same evening as a media distraction. Whenever he speaks, Obama will offer more good talk -- what is this, No. 6 this year? -- about the need for Congress to create jobs by spending only a few dozen more billions of dollars.
Paul will be at that debate. So will the new GOP front-runner, Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
Which would you be more likely to watch?

[Katmandu]

"I think he's an idiot," Malloys says. "

Oh, I thought that was Sean Hannity's job.

[Hatha Sunahara]

The more I listen to Ron Paul, the more I like him. He seems to be operating from a completely different paradigm than the mainstream political spectrum. He avoided being caught up in collective stupidity and mass conformity in thinking.

He seems to understand the idea that you cannot keep spending money with reckless abandon, never worrying about how you are going to pay back your debts. The politicians who ignore him and paint him as an 'idiot' are playing to the masses who are ignorant and see nothing wrong with being dependent on the government doing things for them inefficiently and without regard to cost.

FEMA is what I call a 'redistribution agency'. They spent huge amounts of money hiring Carnival Cruise Lines--an Israeli company to house Katrina victims who lost their houses. They hired Blackwater thugs to provide security in NO after Katrina did its damage. They are the government's way of turning natural disasters and human misery into profit opportunities for their friends. Ron Paul sees through all that. But he's politically astute enough not to say what I have just said. I think Ron Paul is being overly polite and respectful to his opposition in both 'parties'. We will see how much of an idiot he is when the votes are cast.


Hatha

[gunDriller]

i don't think Ron Paul said that we shouldn't help American citizens in the event of an earthquake hurricane volcanic eruption, etc.

if we "bring the troops home", as he suggests, we will have plenty of logistical might to help out in emergencies - even without FEMA to "help" us.

is there an interview clip where that question is put to Ron - "OK, you want to disband FEMA, what happens in a major emergency ?

i would guess that he might say - "well, isn't that what the state's national guards are for ?"

of course this brings up Posse Comitatus issues.

[Libertytree]

Lets see how polite and tactful he is when the campaign hits the 11th hour. I'd love to see him get really aggressive, I think people need to be jolted into seeing the ugly truth, I just don't know if RP has it in him.

[mamboni]

IMHO, the greatest obstacle to a Ron Paul presidency is the conventional mindset of the typical average working American. Yesterday evening, while moving firewood, my neighbor and I discussed what's wrong with the economy vis-a-vis the bankers and the government. He is a scrupulously honest, ethical, church-going family man in his mid 40s. I can distill down his belief system to a few basic tenets:

1. The government can solve any problem if they put the brightest people in a room and give them the resources to develop the model and solution.
2. America must be the world's policeman or else many will die in wars and conflicts that could have been prevented.
3. The arab world is an oppressive mess because of all the bad guy rulers, the only counterforce to which is the American military.
4. Ron Paul presidency would cause suffering and deaths by undermining items 1, 2 and 3.

This way of thinking is common and it is deeply embedded. It will be difficult to counteract. As politely as I could, I tried to explain to him with facts, logic and historical examples why items 1-4 are not only wrong, they are the reasons why the US economy is on the balls of it's ass and will not recover under the present paradigm. I think my impact was small at best - like I said, these are basic beliefs and they will be difficult to dislodge.

[jimswift]

...the US economy is on the balls of it's ass and will not recover under the present paradigm.

Ha, that made me chuckle as I read it, good one doc. ;D:D;D


lol...not enough afros around here O0O0

[Half Sense]

I saw his interview on CNN last night.

Ron Paul did not help himself, saying what he did on CNN right after the hurricane hit. What he said will go down like a screen door in a submarine he may have just ended his campaign in the east cost. He just pissed off all of new england, and probably the majority of the nation.

He cut his own throat.

Sad! No way he will be elected now.

So be it. Ron Paul doesn't stop telling the truth just because some voters might not like it.

If the national mindset changes enough that a truth-teller can get elected President, then we won't need him, because at that point we will have healed ourselves