Badass CR123 sized flashlight, 600 lumens

[midnight rambler]

Components are epoxied, rugged enough to use as weapon light. Much better than Surefire including price. NOT A TOY - hot enough to start fires. High capacity rechargeable batteries available from same source.

http://www.em-mgt.com/LED/NP600.html

http://www.em-mgt.com/LED/Images/SSNP2.jpg

[mick silver]

i got this light a few months back it a real good light and it bright an the price is not to bad ... http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-XPS-6V-Three-Cree-LED-Flashlight/product/10205235/-1598254

[midnight rambler]

i got this light a few months back it a real good light and it bright an the price is not to bad ... http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-XPS-6V-Three-Cree-LED-Flashlight/product/10205235/-1598254

Looks like a bargain, but I doubt it's rugged enough for use as a reliable weapon light.

[mick silver]

Our new super-tough XPS flashlights are tested and rated to ANSI/NEMA FL-1 industry standards!

[midnight rambler]

The only problem with light is takes multiple times pressing switch to toggle through high, low, strobe.

Unsuitable as a weapon light for my purposes, and if the components were epoxied they'd say so. I want my weapon light as reliable as my AK.

[joboo]

How is it that they can't make excellent quality flashlights for less than $100.

Metal is metal, LED's are inexpensive, so are the rest of the components.

I don't see the price justification? Are they kosher certified by a rabbi or something?

[midnight rambler]

How is it that they can't make excellent quality flashlights for less than $100.

Metal is metal, LED's are inexpensive, so are the rest of the components.

I don't see the price justification? Are they kosher certified by a rabbi or something?

The $89 model is probably Hecho en Chino while the one in the OP is made in Arizona by Americans, plus they take the pains to embed the components in epoxy.

[Ponce]

Rambler? just because is "Made In The USA" it does not mean that is the best.....besides, for that kind of money I'd rather buy five Chinese ones that will last longer.

[joboo]

I still don't understand it. Materials cost is probably $25, machines do most of the work, how much are they charging per hour per flashlight for low skilled labor to "professionally craft" them?

Maybe there's a business venture waiting the be discovered there. "A better flashlight for a better price".

[midnight rambler]

Rambler? just because is "Made In The USA" it does not mean that is the best.....besides, for that kind of money I'd rather buy five Chinese ones that will last longer.

Apparently you don't get it Ponce. As I stated in post #5 I want a weapon light as reliable as the weapon it's going on - a tall order considering the AK is the most reliable rifle on the planet (so long as it's not made by Century Arms Inc.).

[Ponce]

Well, carry a Yawara stick in your key chain like I do.....it does wonders for a little nothing.

[MAGNES]

The two flashlights I use the most are maglites, 3 D cell, and 2 AA cell,
more powerful is not better or best, bought a 3 AA cell LED maglite,
it is too bright to use as a candle, the 3 D cell is great spot lite and use
as a weapon. Bought a Surefire Defender LED 200 Lumen, amazing light,
great as a weapon as well, you can cut someone open with the attack bezel.
Little Innova led's, single AA is very bright too, use it daily going out for a walk
with the dog, I'm out all the time, no flashlight does all jobs.

Must haves are the 3 D and 2 AA regular maglite flashlights, IMO.
You get red filter and rubber base as well in the AA kits. Cheap.
The mini Led ones that are average lumen are great,
very powerful and batteries last a very long time.

Night vision is a must to consider as well depending on circumstances.
You don't need a floodlight, it could give away your position as well. ;D

[Serpo]

laser

http://revoseek.com/technology/terrible-science-fiction-space-laser-weapon-comes-true-by-usa/

[midnight rambler]

laser

http://revoseek.com/technology/terrible-science-fiction-space-laser-weapon-comes-true-by-usa/

I've posted a thread on wicked lasers before. They're latest 1W model is over the top.

If you think you want one of those, better get it now because they WILL be outlawed. If gov.org banned those Russian ballistic knives and ballistic batons (which I so wish I had gotten at the time), then you KNOW they will ban this soon.

[Gaillo]

How is it that they can't make excellent quality flashlights for less than $100.

Metal is metal, LED's are inexpensive, so are the rest of the components.

I don't see the price justification? Are they kosher certified by a rabbi or something?

I have not one, but TWO flashlights reviewed in the "equipment and supplies reviews" section, both under $100, both excellent quality, reliability, and functionality (I have multiple units of both for over a year, and all of them still ticking despite heavy rugged use). Surefire and expensive "more lumens than you'll ever need" lights are not the only game in town... ;)

Unfortunately, the photos got hammered during the forum software switchover... I really need to fix that soon.

[midnight rambler]

If those Hecho en Chino bargain flashlights which are all spill with little or no throw (to speak of) work for you and you're satisfied with them then that's fantastic. However from my research into the matter a high quality specialized flashlight is going to cost you. And for the price the ruggized model in the OP isn't out of line. I'm wanting one which will handle 12 gauge slug recoil repeatedly if I decide to put it on my shotgun, so those bargain made in China flashlights are out of the question. I want something that I *know* won't let me down.

[mick silver]

mr call the company you posted the guy is such a ass hole i would not buy from his if it was 10 bucks . he knows nothing about the lights and other stuff he sells i would not deal with him . give him a call an ask about the stuff your buying . i would hate to have to return anything to this guys because he will not take it back .

[mick silver]

If those Hecho en Chino bargain flashlights which are all spill with little or no throw (to speak of) work for you and you're satisfied with them then that's fantastic. However from my research into the matter a high quality specialized flashlight is going to cost you. And for the price the ruggized model in the OP isn't out of line. I'm wanting one which will handle 12 gauge slug recoil repeatedly if I decide to put it on my shotgun, so those bargain made in China flashlights are out of the question. I want something that I *know* won't let me down.

the light i post about on a saiga 12 ga and it works fine an plus i have drop the light more them one time and it still works

[Cebu_4_2]

My kid is experimenting making these. Problems so far that I know of is the LEDs are chinese and giving him a hard time. Evert one he has received draw different currents and are different brightness. That aside they tend to get a bit warm also, I'm sure he knows but I will mention the epoxy thing.


I still don't understand it. Materials cost is probably $25, machines do most of the work, how much are they charging per hour per flashlight for low skilled labor to "professionally craft" them?

Maybe there's a business venture waiting the be discovered there. "A better flashlight for a better price".

[Ash_Williams]

I've posted a thread on wicked lasers before. They're latest 1W model is over the top.

If you think you want one of those, better get it now because they WILL be outlawed. If gov.org banned those Russian ballistic knives and ballistic batons (which I so wish I had gotten at the time), then you KNOW they will ban this soon.

Just ordered my 1 watt.
When reading about it the public opinion seems to be they need to be banned. People are more scared of these than they are of guns.

As for flashlights... anyone else feel like the lumen thing is getting out of hand? These things are so bright your eyes will adjust and things will look just the same as if they were half as bright. I like a good LED but I ain't paying hundreds of dollars for something with a 30 minute runtime that I can't get batteries for. Unless it's a laser, of course.

[Joe King]

I like a good LED but I ain't paying hundreds of dollars for something with a 30 minute runtime that I can't get batteries for. Unless it's a laser, of course.Why would you pay so much for a laser if you can't get batteries for it? ???



;D

[Gaillo]

As for flashlights... anyone else feel like the lumen thing is getting out of hand? These things are so bright your eyes will adjust and things will look just the same as if they were half as bright. I like a good LED but I ain't paying hundreds of dollars for something with a 30 minute runtime that I can't get batteries for. Unless it's a laser, of course.

Ash,
I hear ya, bud. In my not-so-humble opinion (TM), anything above about 150 Lumens is just plain excessive, wasteful, and unnecessary for all but a VERY few specialized tasks. Sure, if you're a wilderness search/rescue guy a "handheld sun" is marvelous, but for most "real-world" tasks engaged in by most of us mere mortals, I find that low to medium (around 50 lumens) is MORE than adequate.

I've found that the only real use I've gotten out of my 400 Lumen light is to impress friends who have never seen what a REAL flashlight can perform like... most of the time it sits in a drawer while my sub-100 Lumen Jetbeams and Zebralight headlamps get all the real-world use.

Besides, I tend to like flashlights that sip, not guzzle the batteries... I'd rather buy Silver than Lithium! ;D

[TomD]

I've got a Fenix tactical light rated at 337 lumens max but it stays on a medium power setting most of the time. It uses a single 18560 battery or two 123's, I've got a couple of 3000 mah rechargables; at medium power, it lasts about 12-14 hours. I've bought a couple of cheap lights that are supposed to throw 100-200 lumans, they don't, not even close. After you get used to a very high quality light, the cheap ones really suck.

The Fenix is waterproof and drop rated to concrete at 6 feet.