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JJ.G0ldD0t
12th September 2011, 04:55 PM
http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/2011/09/why-does-irs-have-14-trillion-dollar.html

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A UCC lien for $14,300,000,000,000 (about the same amount as the national debt) filed on 8/12/11 with the Maryland Secretary of State naming the Maryland Comptroller as an additional debtor. Something tells me other states have similar filings...

k-os
12th September 2011, 05:46 PM
http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/2011/09/why-does-irs-have-14-trillion-dollar.html

Images @ link

I wonder what that's all about. Now, I know we are all amateur conspiracy theorists, but I see a check box that appears to have been altered. On the second document, where it says "Amendment (collateral change)", the last check box that says "assigned" looks like the check mark has been removed.

Anyone of our fine legal minds care to describe what the documents mean?

Gaillo
12th September 2011, 05:53 PM
Interesting. It names "The Federal Reserve System" as one of the debtors.

Joe King
12th September 2011, 06:29 PM
From Wiki....
A UCC Financing Statement, is a legal form that a creditor files to give notice that it has an interest in the personal property of a delinquent debtor (a person who has not paid back their debt as specified in the agreement creating the debt).[1] This form is filed in order to "perfect" a creditor's security interest by giving public notice that there is a desire to take possession of certain assets for repayment of a specific debt. Such notices are often found in the local newspapers. Once the form has been filed the creditor may move forward in the process of appropriating perfected assets of a debtor that are of equal value to the debt owed.[2] This process is also called "perfecting the security interest" in the property, and this type of loan is a secured loan.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCC-1_financing_statement)

Pursuant to the standards set forth in the UCC, the financing statement need only contain three pieces of information: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCC-1_financing_statement)

the debtor's name and address (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCC-1_financing_statement)
the creditor's name and address (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCC-1_financing_statement)
a description of the collateral, which may be very general (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCC-1_financing_statement)
Notice that the linked docs are but an Amendment to another financing statement that's already been filed.
This filing amends #3 in the list above.


Notice that it says it's to be filed in the real estate records.

Smells like a continuation of the receivership to me.

DMac
13th September 2011, 07:37 AM
bump

Curious for more thoughts on what this is about..???

Joe King
13th September 2011, 07:38 AM
bump

Curious for more thoughts on what this is about..???It's about the collecting of a debt.

DMac
13th September 2011, 07:46 AM
It's about the collecting of a debt.

Who will be receiving what is collected? What will be collected? Who and how will the collection occur?

Top 3 questions in my mind after reading this.

midnight rambler
13th September 2011, 07:50 AM
Very interesting that criminals would want to *appear* to keeping their activities 'legal' when they are blatantly not. UCC 1 filings don't really mean squat now for those who try to use them to seek remedy, why would it matter when push comes to shove for the criminals??

Joe King
13th September 2011, 07:56 AM
Who will be receiving what is collected?The govs creditors, who else?


What will be collected?FRNs to the tune of {now} $14.3 trillion.


Who and how will the collection occur?Via the IRS who are alledged to have filed the document.


Top 3 questions in my mind after reading this.I hope I've helped to answer your questions.

Horn
13th September 2011, 09:10 AM
Who will be receiving what is collected? What will be collected? Who and how will the collection occur?

Top 3 questions in my mind after reading this.

I thought it was a "clout" statement,

states aren't happy with U.S. credit downgrade & need some sort of golden buffer agency(s) to fill the holes.

sirgonzo420
13th September 2011, 09:26 AM
From the 14th Amendment:


Section 4.

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Horn
13th September 2011, 09:33 AM
From the 14th Amendment:

I'm just supposing that section was void by International Law.

Joe King
13th September 2011, 09:36 AM
How could that be?

Horn
13th September 2011, 10:10 AM
How could that be?

I'm just shooting in the dark.

This guy's Hellfired and ready to permit killing of the American Bald Eagle.

http://floydreports.com/house-republicans-free-border-patrol-of-liberals-red-tape/

Joe King
13th September 2011, 10:19 AM
Where does it say that?

All I see in that link is that it will give waivers to those in immigration enforcement along and within 100 miles of the border from having to comply 100% with those laws.
....and what does that have to do with the OP? ???

mick silver
13th September 2011, 12:21 PM
for some reason this does not shock me . i can see it now our country will be rename china 2 .now do you see why were in all theys war the card game is about to end and our goverment is the losing player . but who are the irs
exactly collecting for?

Santa
13th September 2011, 03:31 PM
I think it's more important to the international gangster cabal to maintain an air of legitimacy to UCC law(international law) which they own, than it is to collect the debt.

midnight rambler
13th September 2011, 06:26 PM
who are the irs
exactly collecting for? Ultimately Rottenchild, but no doubt Robberbaronfellow gets his cut.