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Serpo
13th September 2011, 03:30 PM
GoldSilver.com
SEPTEMBER 12, 2011



Late last month, the cheerleaders of Wall Street from CNBC ran a special report on the inner workings of the gold and silver industry entitled, Gold and Other Money Metals.
The highlight of this report had to be the bizarre public relations backfire involving HSBC, the paper SPDR Gold Trust GLD, and CNBC's "hard hitting" financial journalist, Bob Pisani:

http://goldsilver.com/re/common/images/images/Bob%20Pisani%20CNBC%20Kidnapped%20GLD%20GoldSilver _com.png
Briefly appearing as if he were being kidnapped, Bob was transported throughout London in a blacked out van. Then, once supposedly within the HSBC gold vault, Mr. Pisani flashed a 400 ounce gold bar with serial numbers belonging to a totally different ETF (http://screwtapefiles.blogspot.com/2011/09/zero-hedge-zj6752.html) than GLD.

http://goldsilver.com/re/common/images/images/HSBC%20CNBC%20Gold%20Vault%20GLD%20GoldSilver_com. png

Click here to see the video (http://goldsilver.com/video/some-observations-on-bob-pisani-s-visit-to-gld-s-vault/).

http://goldsilver.com/re/common/images/images/Bob%20Pisani%20Gold%20Bar%20CNBC%20HSBC%20GLD%20Go ldSilver_com.png

So what was the big deal?
Well, contrary to Bob's report, not all the ounces in this particular vault are from the GLD fund and as you can see in the image below, CNBC was quick to cover their inaccuracies by adding an additional clause to the video's description:


http://goldsilver.com/re/common/images/images/CNBC%20GLD%20HSBC%20Public%20Realtions%20Backfire% 20Damage%20Control%20GoldSilver_com.png

The fact that GLD is now forced to launch PR spots to ensure confidence is interesting indeed.
It would not surprise us, nor many other experts within the gold and silver community, if one day this overbought trust melted down due to a growing skepticism and understanding of how this "investment" vehicle operates. A great price separation and disparity between physical bullion and paper vehicles such as GLD is something we are certain of.
Among savvy investors in gold and silver, the idea of holding ETFs like GLD or SLV over physical gold/silver bullion is laughable and silly.
Take for example the following frequently asked question copied and pasted directly from GLD's website:

Can you take physical possession of the gold? (http://www.spdrgoldshares.com/sites/us/faqs/#)
The Trustee, The Bank of New York Mellon, does not deal directly with the public. The Trustee handles creation and redemption orders for the Trust’s shares with Authorized Participants, who deal in blocks of 100,000 shares. An individual investor wishing to exchange shares for physical gold would have to come to the appropriate arrangements with his or her broker.
In other words, today one has to have a minimum position of over $18,000,000 in GLD and then have access to the aforementioned Authorized Participants in order to hopefully arrange a conversion of said shares into real physical gold.
The expression Possession is 9/10th's of the Law didn't come about by mere chance.
Our company founder and CEO, Mike Maloney, has been warning folks for years, "If you can't hold it, you don't own it!"

Unlike bullion you can wholly own in your hand or by direct title ownership in a segregated private vault, ETFs are fraught with counter-party risks, questions of ownership, etc.
In this comical video below, Chris from the WeeklyTelegram examines the convoluted maze that is the GLD prospectus (http://www.spdrgoldshares.com/media/GLD/file/SPDRGoldTrustProspectus.pdf):







Management fees extracted from shareholders' holdings for ETFs like GLD (annually 0.4 percent of share values) are way too expensive given the trust's risks and the lack of direct title of its shareholders to the underlying bullion they claim to hold.

Ignorance is not bliss, especially when one risks their safe haven holdings AND in doing so, overpays in the process!

Additionally, from the Gold and Other Money Metals report, CNBC misinformed their readers on industry prices for storing gold in a depository, citing fees ranging from 0.33 to 1.25 percent, depending on the depository and account value.


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Given these facts, why would anyone choose to pay 40 times the fees for a paper gold fund versus outright safe and secure physical bullion ownership in a fully insured private vault?

Given these facts, why would anyone think CNBC knows anything about the gold industry and or trust their "special gold report"?



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http://goldsilver.com/news/cnbc-hsbc-gld-public-relations-backfire/

Serpo
13th September 2011, 03:32 PM
Also Embry...........



With gold trading above $1,825, today King World News interviewed John Embry, Chief Investment Strategist of the $10 billion strong Sprott Asset Management. When asked about the action in gold Embry stated, “Following a $400 rise in less than two months, I think a consolidation in this area is extremely healthy. It shakes out all of the people which probably shouldn’t be in gold that were using levered positions.”








John Embry continues:



“So I have no problem with a decent consolidation. Now having said that, there still is so much counter-intuitive price action that you know the central banks are in there (manipulating gold). There is no question that at the time of the Swiss franc devaluation, when gold dropped on either side of the devaluation by over $100, that was totally orchestrated because in a rational world the gold price, as the other safe haven, should have rocketed higher.



So it’s a healthy consolidation, but it’s also being helped by very aggressive central bank actions. The bottom line is this is orchestrated volatility for the expressed purpose of frightening all of those who do not fully understand the gold market. But if you understand it, you must use every bout of this weakness to continue to enhance your position, it’s a gift.



We had the $200 takedown and once we absorbed that, gold went and rallied back to the high. The (manipulators) are creating the image of a double top, leading people to believe that they can stop it at $1,900. I don’t think it’s possible, gold will just work this off and then surge to new highs.”



When asked what to expect in 2012 Embry responded, “I saw Jean Marie Eveillard’s King World News interview, it was a very good interview and I agreed with everything he said. If you use the past as a guide we could see the level of pension fund ownership and institutional ownership of gold rise from the current .4% that Eveillard cited to as high as 5%.



If history is any guide that will happen, and I would go so far as to say that conditions are infinitely more favorable to gold then they have ever been at any other time in history....



Continue reading the John Embry interview below...



http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/9/13_Embry_-_Institutional_Gold_Holdings_Will_Increase_12_Fold _files/shapeimage_22.jpg














(http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast_Gold+/Entries/2011/6/16_Wesdome_Gold_Mines_Ltd._files/Wesdome%20Gold%206%3A17%3A2011.mp3)





http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/9/13_Embry_-_Institutional_Gold_Holdings_Will_Increase_12_Fold _files/shapeimage_23.jpg






“What could be most important going into next year will be the revelation that the paper gold market is a complete and utter fraud. For every $100 of paper gold claims, there are probably only $1 or $2 worth of real gold backing it. That could be the thing that basically blows the top off of the gold market.”



When asked about the mining shares specifically Embry replied, “I remain extraordinarily bullish on the mining shares. The HUI has penetrated the 600 level to the upside, now it is pulling back to the 600 level. The next move of any significance will be a dramatic rise and I would be disappointed if it (the HUI) didn’t rise at least 50% by year end.”



When asked about trouble in Europe Embry said, “Europe is the lynch pin right now. The European problems are the only reason the US dollar has a firm bid in it. The question is, ‘Can the European problems be solved?’ The depth of the issues are so profound and the person who is at the center of it all is Angela Merkel in Germany.



She is worried about her party, and being elected again because if you put this to a vote in Germany amongst the German populace, they don’t want to bail out the rest of Europe. The conditions in places like Greece are beyond horrific.



The Greeks can’t possibly take the austerity that is being asked without a revolution taking place. I think they are going to print as much money as they need, to keep this whole thing together and the German public be damned.”


http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/9/13_Embry_-_Institutional_Gold_Holdings_Will_Increase_12_Fold .html

gunDriller
13th September 2011, 04:12 PM
In other words, today one has to have a minimum position of over $18,000,000 in GLD and then have access to the aforementioned Authorized Participants in order to hopefully arrange a conversion of said shares into real physical gold.

i thought the Comex position was 100 ounces, which would be $180K today.

(not that GLD exactly = Comex).

$18 Million would be 10,000 ounces.

So you need a 10,000 ounce position on GLD to take physical delivery ?


on the subject of HSBC - i closed out a savings account there because their customer service has gone WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY SOUTH the last 2 years. based on being a former customer, i get the feeling that HSBC is on the brink of bankruptcy.

HSBC = major Keystone cops - and they're one of the world's largest banks.

They might as well have Michael Brown (Bush's FEMA guy) running GLD.

Serpo
13th September 2011, 04:49 PM
http://www.goldalert.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/silver-gold-21.jpg (http://www.goldalert.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/silver-gold-21.jpg)



http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1091/776/Unbelievable_Chart_Shows_Gold_Could_Double_By_Year s_End.html

gunDriller
13th September 2011, 05:20 PM
http://www.goldalert.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/silver-gold-21.jpg (http://www.goldalert.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/silver-gold-21.jpg)

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1091/776/Unbelievable_Chart_Shows_Gold_Could_Double_By_Year s_End.html

what a pretty picture !

those gold squares look a little bit like candy.

ximmy
13th September 2011, 05:28 PM
what a pretty picture !

those gold squares look a little bit like candy.

they are candy... natures candy... ;D

chad
13th September 2011, 05:31 PM
silver is 100, gold 400 for delivery.